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Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:32:00 -
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I didn't read all these posts, but I really just wanted to bring up a related point.
My god, man, free frigates are just awesome.
So is reimbursement, guys. Don't all Nullsec residents just love reimbursement? Your Alliance puts out an announcement that there is a fleet up, and you joyfully hop in your doctrine appropriate ship to engage in gudfites, knowing full well that the contributions you make to the Alliances war efforts will be repaid in kind with cold, hard isk, often paying more than the ship itself cost.
It really is just magical. I don't have to worry about my killboards or isk efficiency since, really, my loss is LESS than 0. Since I know I'm going to be primaried eventually (or right away, in the case of flying a rifter against Nulli. Frigs is skurry, gais), I can just focus on doing what is most valuable for the fleet --- that is, I can focus on my job. If I die, reship! Free of charge!
Space is great, you guys. Especially if you have reimbursement.
PS: 99% folks, we lu' you. It's pretty excellent that you essentially caused the new southern war. ..well that and Nulli's incessant **** posting and batphoning. Nulli doesn't even seem to realize that all sov gained was accidental except yours. Ah well. Gudfites over, rapetrain commence. You don't know.|||You REALLY don't know.|||See you drivin round town |
Signal11th
551
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:40:00 -
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Isk really doesn;t have anything to do with it, morale and persistance usually runs out way before the isk does. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Signal11th
551
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:42:00 -
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SC0T1SH WARRIOR wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:
You can have numbers, skills, ships, FC's...and still end up losing to a group filled with newer players, poorer skills, and sloppy execution, simply because they can get right back in another ship and fight again, without any personal loss of isk.
perhaps you underestimated us?I mean, really. if we are that poorly skilled with sloppy execution, explain how we managed to get as far as we have? you just think to yourself "oh, they're all idiots, they can't do anything really..."? meanwhile, we're on the doorstep, leaking into the hall, sleeping with your friends in the upstairs room, hanging out your bathroom windows and pissing out the back door... and only now that some form of **** has hit the fan have you realized that there is a threat... so, uh, numbers,, ships,, GOONS, no brains! pretty much failed to begin with then?
fixed that for you God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
SC0T1SH WARRIOR
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
99
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:51:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:SC0T1SH WARRIOR wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:
You can have numbers, skills, ships, FC's...and still end up losing to a group filled with newer players, poorer skills, and sloppy execution, simply because they can get right back in another ship and fight again, without any personal loss of isk.
perhaps you underestimated us?I mean, really. if we are that poorly skilled with sloppy execution, explain how we managed to get as far as we have? you just think to yourself "oh, they're all idiots, they can't do anything really..."? meanwhile, we're on the doorstep, leaking into the hall, sleeping with your friends in the upstairs room, hanging out your bathroom windows and pissing out the back door... and only now that some form of **** has hit the fan have you realized that there is a threat... so, uh, numbers,, ships,, GOONS, no brains! pretty much failed to begin with then? fixed that for you
no... you didn't.
not in any way at all.
Dont mind me, -ájust touching your stuff. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1199
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:53:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:Isk really doesn;t have anything to do with it, morale and persistance usually runs out way before the isk does.
you should know 'heh' a rogue goon |
Tallianna Avenkarde
Deadman W0nderland
355
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:01:00 -
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Degren wrote:
PS: 99% folks, we lu' you. It's pretty excellent that you essentially caused the new southern war. ..well that and Nulli's incessant **** posting and batphoning. Nulli doesn't even seem to realize that all sov gained was accidental except yours. Ah well. Gudfites over, rapetrain commence.
We honestly thought this was the way to deklein... And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
820
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:02:00 -
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I also think it is extremely unfair that the CFC alliances all started the game with tech moons while everyone else started with rookie ships and a civilian gun. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
331
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:09:00 -
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In a game that has it's own economy reliant on people losing assets and then seeking to replace them, how can the lack of risk possibly be "good for the game"? |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1200
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:18:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:In a game that has it's own economy reliant on people losing assets and then seeking to replace them, how can the lack of risk possibly be "good for the game"?
ship replacement programs create new ships out of thin air, obviously a rogue goon |
Signal11th
551
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:24:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:In a game that has it's own economy reliant on people losing assets and then seeking to replace them, how can the lack of risk possibly be "good for the game"?
??? You did read this before you clocked on "post" didn't you? God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1200
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:25:00 -
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I wonder what Sun Tzu has to say about this a rogue goon |
R76983
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
29
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:30:00 -
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Boo Hoo |
Dervinus
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
47
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:36:00 -
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Wait so it couldnt be:
1. Honeybadger/CFC's better organization and internal communication 2. Honeybadger/CFC's grasp of the concept of "diplomacy" 3. Honeybadger/CFC's superior FCs (I mean come on, Shadoo, Vee, Elise, Villy, vs.....Makalu and PGL?) 4. Honeybadger/CFC's outstanding logistics and market team 5. Honeybadger/CFC's morale and "fun" atmosphere
Nah, of course not
It MUST be our willingness to reward our members for participation by reimbursing their losses that is the reason why we will win. You hit it right on the nail my friend, I cant believe I didnt see it before. THE DOVITANI FOR CSM |
Zalifer Esepula
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
17
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:48:00 -
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See the thing is, everyone is like "CFC have all the money and now they are going to be winners forever".
**** that ****. Everyone in the CFC started out poor as dirt and fought for what we have. It's not like people come into the game and get free tech moons. Goons started out terrible at eve and kept that up until now. When TEST started, our CEO had the map upside down, and ended up in the goons backyard, when he tried to go to the other side of the universe.
We do well with noobies because we train people not to care about winning, not to care about dying. ISK efficiency, KDR, all that **** is irrelevant to the CFC. We put together people who know that while they might die, they are doing it for the group. That is why I fly my rifter at enemy fleets. 9/10 times I die, and I don't give a ****. I know that I had a 1/10th chance of helping to damage the enemy, and hell, even getting popped meant at least one of their fleet shot me, when he could have been shooting someone else.
Man the **** up, and blow us away, take the tech and then maybe we can talk. |
Internet Lawyer Steve
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2012.06.27 16:08:00 -
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Tech will not be rebalanced until next year. CCP Soundwave wants to work on POSs. Which are not broke and work fine. Internet Lawyer Steve and Associates,
Bringing Justice to New Eden, One post at a time... |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1200
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Posted - 2012.06.27 16:09:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:Tech will not be rebalanced until next year. CCP Soundwave wants to work on POSs. Which are not broke and work fine.
hey how do you think technetium is taken from moons a rogue goon |
Tallianna Avenkarde
Deadman W0nderland
355
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Posted - 2012.06.27 16:11:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:Tech will not be rebalanced until next year. CCP Soundwave wants to work on POSs. Which are not broke and work fine.
Are you for real???
Try living out of one. They are my number 1 wish list for fixing. Nerfing tech will just create a new bottleneck that will just as quickly be pounced on. And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell. |
SC0T1SH WARRIOR
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
99
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Posted - 2012.06.27 16:24:00 -
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Zalifer Esepula wrote:even getting popped meant at least one of their fleet shot me, when he could have been shooting someone else..
My heart, you have it. Dont mind me, -ájust touching your stuff. |
Internet Lawyer Steve
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2012.06.27 16:31:00 -
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Zalifer Esepula wrote:See the thing is, everyone is like "CFC have all the money and now they are going to be winners forever".
**** that ****. Everyone in the CFC started out poor as dirt and fought for what we have. It's not like people come into the game and get free tech moons. Goons started out terrible at eve and kept that up until now. When TEST started, our CEO had the map upside down, and ended up in the goons backyard, when he tried to go to the other side of the universe.
We do well with noobies because we train people not to care about winning, not to care about dying. ISK efficiency, KDR, all that **** is irrelevant to the CFC. We put together people who know that while they might die, they are doing it for the group. That is why I fly my rifter at enemy fleets. 9/10 times I die, and I don't give a ****. I know that I had a 1/10th chance of helping to damage the enemy, and hell, even getting popped meant at least one of their fleet shot me, when he could have been shooting someone else.
Man the **** up, and blow us away, take the tech and then maybe we can talk.
Actually TCF gave the space to goons. Internet Lawyer Steve and Associates,
Bringing Justice to New Eden, One post at a time... |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1201
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:05:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:Actually TCF gave the space to goons.
we took the vast majority of our tech moons from our enemies, hope this helps a rogue goon |
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Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:58:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:Actually TCF gave the space to goons. we took the vast majority of our tech moons from our enemies, hope this helps
You have enemies? I thought you guys set every PvP corp with more than 50 people blue. So I ask, what enemies? Pubbies in NPC corps and 5 man NPC-Nul corps aren't much of enemies. |
Dervinus
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
48
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:45:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:Actually TCF gave the space to goons. we took the vast majority of our tech moons from our enemies, hope this helps You have enemies? I thought you guys set every PvP corp with more than 50 people blue. So I ask, what enemies? Pubbies in NPC corps and 5 man NPC-Nul corps aren't much of enemies.
Wait, he surely couldnt mean taking Tech moons from Raiden., White Noise., NCdot, Ev0ke, and others, could he? Or did they just give those to the Goons? THE DOVITANI FOR CSM |
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