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Seraphim Risen
Minmatar Moira.
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Posted - 2010.02.03 17:47:00 -
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*giggles gleefully*
With Goonswarm gone, who'll defend you now? ----------------------------------- The Republic has failed and abandoned its people. I can no longer stand beneath its flag and honestly say I believe in my cause. |
Isaac Starstriker
Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2010.02.03 17:57:00 -
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I am glad to see that CVA and those who truly support them have a backbone. I'd rather be part of a coalition that means something than a coalition that exists purely to give pirates Killmails.
The annoying alt, noodlebrain...w/e, don't care. Bug off. --Isaac
AMAAR VICTOR!
"You just can't fix stupid"
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.02.03 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Yes, the very same U'K who are dedicated to NRDS except in those places where it becomes a little bit inconvenient to them where they switch to NBSI. My point remains.
CVA is not a honest NRDS entity. Their standings are set for dishonest, political, religious and outright corrupt reasons. Their holders openly break NRDS terms of engagement and pirates and villains are protected in the borders of Providence from just retribution of their victims. CVA have openly lied for many years about the nature of their enemies and you simply repeating those lies in on the Galactic Summit do nothing but encourage the destruction of this hypocrisy once and for all.
Originally by: Frygok One should think, that given incidents regarding Providence capsuleers such as Merdaneth, and the relationship that Providence shared with No.mercy, the hypocrisy would have been toned down just a little bit.
The "No Mercy" affair really did highlight the lies and ridiculous degree the CVA would go to in order to protect "its pirates" from the consquences of their actions. It was only when No Mercy turned to pirating Sev3rance alliance that CVA finally ended their positive standings and open invitation to Providence.
Originally by: Frygok I vividly remember how Ushra'Khan removed a member from the alliance just recently, after it had been proven that a alliance member had broken the NRDS/NBSI rules of engagement. It was brought forth in the Intergalactic Summit by, I believe, Providence and CVA-friendly parties. Yet somehow, when the roles were reversed, random stories of a neutral being "connected" to enemies of the Amarr empire was conjured up after and innocent neutral was shot down without warning. Merdaneth is still a friend of the Amarrian empire and Providence alliances, from all accounts. Talk about shifting NRDS/NBSI at convinience, eh?
I think the list of CVA dupes prepared to testify on behalf of this sickening hypocrisy is growing shorter by the day. Rodj and PIE are among the last prepared to claim black is white and the sky is under their feet on these issues.
Originally by: Rodj Blake In the specific case regarding MG Merdaneth, you may recall that ample evidence was available regarding the affiliation of the pilot whom he shot at. Rest assured that if Merdaneth had acted inappropriately he would have subsequently been discliplined or even removed from the corporation, but in this instance he did not.
Negative. There was no such "ample" evidence presented. Merdaneth shot a neutral pilot who was attempting to shadow a No.Mercy piracy operation. In doing so he was serving a pilot who has subsequently been proved to be conducting a campaign of high-sec ransoming and piracy against unaffiliated capsuleer alliances. If you had a shred of honesty in your body then Merdaneth would be condemned and potentially stripped from your ranks for this deed but you simply lack such virtues and prefer to cling to lies and slander instead.
Quote: And with No.Mercy, PIE conducted a full investigation into their activities which resulted in a major change in our stance towards them. Furthermore, whilst I don't speak for the CVA, my understanding is that No.Mercy are currently not welcome in Providence.
The PIE investigation was a farce. I presented the text of it myself on IGS and it was mealy-mouthed apologist claptrap. As for No.Mercy and Providence. They were welcome there as guest-pirates until the moment their nature became unmistakably apparent and they fired upon Sev3rance alliance. While they were happy pirating neutrals and uninvolved Amarrian industrial alliances CVA cared nothing.
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dibblebill
Beyond Our Sins
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Posted - 2010.02.03 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: dibblebill on 03/02/2010 19:42:43 Edited by: dibblebill on 03/02/2010 19:40:36 I was once in a corporation with blue standings with Severance. We acquired a new pilot by the name of Barock. He flew with us for awhile. In the weeks prior to his joining us in the corporation I was in at the time (I have changed so much since then), he was ratting in Providence in a Prophecy-class battlecruiser. He was not disturbed once, despite being ex-RZR. We came back to run a scanned down complex later, with mutual blue standings. He was now in a Harbinger-class battlecruiser. A very juicy kill.
2008.10.07 00:55
Victim: Barock Corp: EVE M.I.A. Corp Alliance: None Faction: NONE Destroyed: Harbinger System: E-YCML Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 22986
He was shot and killed by the very forces we were told would "protect" us in the area, and we were then disrespected by the holder alliances, and mocked, told to come back in something more expensive next time. Guilty parties: Cold Steel Alliance, and Severance. He was not only killed, but podded TWICE by the self-same parties while we were a friendly entity. Even if we weren't "blue", we certainly were neutral. We were then told it was because he was an ex-RZR pilot. Why wasn't he destroyed before? Why was he instead invited to join -7- ratting fleets and fly with them?
Wonderfully inconsistent group. Happy pirating under the guise of protection.
EDIT: Interesting fact. Their kill logs even have comments made by their own pilots telling each other that he was neutral. If he was neutral, why was he shot? *SPLUD* |
Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.02.03 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 03/02/2010 19:43:22
Originally by: Rodj Blake The CVA have taken great care over the years to make their space open to all who are not actively hostile to their stewardship of the region. That contrasts with -A-'s policy of essentially shooting at anyone who isn't actively friendly.
That is a direct lie. CVA is not a FreeSpace entity and never has been. Further than that, it is not possible to gain unchallenged access to space in Providence without submitting to the regressive ideals of a slave-owning imperalist hierarchy that treats its holders as "contracted slaves" and visitors as meatshields to protect the interests of the central autocracy. To own space in Providence is to accept the genocides and concentration camps across the dark planets below. To utilise the resources of Providence under the watchful eye of the CVA is well, at the least it is showing a bland disregard for fellow humanity.
These are hard ideological points. For the Star Fraction we have chosen to honour our true NRDS FreeSpace principles and turn a blind eye to the neutrals of Providence so long as our vessels are not fired upon at the orders of the CVA slavemasters. This does not mean we approve of their profiteering through economic cooperation with the Amarrian hierarchy of the region - merely that we place a higher value on our own engagement idealogy and wish to use persuasion and debate to sway the minds of neutrals against the regressive empire taking root here.
The Ushra'khan have chosen the stance of considering all who profit from the slavers of Providence to be tainted by guilt and become targets of their guns and while this is not how we choose to behave it is nonetheless a position we understand and respect. Each sovereign independent must make up their own mind where they stand on this issue.
But it is utter nonsense to suggest that there is wider division between the Fraction's and Ushra'khan's stance on Providence than our take on the CVA. The CVA is a vile and regressive entity that presses its will on others and demands total submission of its slaves and holders - it forces its standings down the throat of neutrals and converts all to be the foes of its ideological foes. CVA is not a FreeSpace entity and never has been.
Quote: And yet it's -A- who the supposedly pro-freespace Star Fraction have decided to support in the conflict. I guess that my previous assertion that the SF is willing to put aside its ideological beliefs where it gets in the way of their hatred towards Amarr turned out to be true after all.
CVA is a disease Rodj Blake. You do not hate a disease. You cure it or cut it out. It doesn't do to personalise such an endeavour, you simply set out your surgeons tools and begin cutting.
When the CVA is gone there is a chance for genuine freedom to arise in Providence. And I hope many of those who have sleepwalked into embracing utter tyranny for the false attractions of greed and assumed safety will realize without the cloying presence of this corrupt and dominating overlord they may finally see the promise of the open stars and glorious tapestry of creation beyond.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.03 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 03/02/2010 20:01:37 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 03/02/2010 19:59:53 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 03/02/2010 19:59:28 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 03/02/2010 19:59:06
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake In the specific case regarding MG Merdaneth, you may recall that ample evidence was available regarding the affiliation of the pilot whom he shot at. Rest assured that if Merdaneth had acted inappropriately he would have subsequently been discliplined or even removed from the corporation, but in this instance he did not.
Negative. There was no such "ample" evidence presented. Merdaneth shot a neutral pilot who was attempting to shadow a No.Mercy piracy operation. In doing so he was serving a pilot who has subsequently been proved to be conducting a campaign of high-sec ransoming and piracy against unaffiliated capsuleer alliances. If you had a shred of honesty in your body then Merdaneth would be condemned and potentially stripped from your ranks for this deed but you simply lack such virtues and prefer to cling to lies and slander instead.
Only if you consider the track record of the pilot in question only appearing near to an SF gang and the leaked Star Fraction logs referring to her as not being evidence.
Although having said that, we've been through this before, so I've no idea why it's been brought it up again.
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Quote: And with No.Mercy, PIE conducted a full investigation into their activities which resulted in a major change in our stance towards them. Furthermore, whilst I don't speak for the CVA, my understanding is that No.Mercy are currently not welcome in Providence.
The PIE investigation was a farce. I presented the text of it myself on IGS and it was mealy-mouthed apologist claptrap. As for No.Mercy and Providence. They were welcome there as guest-pirates until the moment their nature became unmistakably apparent and they fired upon Sev3rance alliance. While they were happy pirating neutrals and uninvolved Amarrian industrial alliances CVA cared nothing.
Mealy-mouthed apologist claptrap? You are aware that No.Mercy were found guilty of misconduct, right? And that we altered our standings towards them as a result?
Again, this has all been discussed before, but if you really want to get into a discussion regarding which of us is an apologist for piracy, I'm more than happy to discuss your own alliance's track record on it. What would you like to start with - your friendship with a Guristas-aligned alliance, or your defence of a SF pilot providing a cyno field for a pirate?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Kazzzi
Amarr Iniquitous Technologies Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2010.02.03 20:04:00 -
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I have been pouring over ancient holy scriptures for quite some time now trying to find a reference to what is referred to as 'NRDS', a term many champions of the Amarr Empire embrace with a form of fundamentalist passion. Well, I can't find it anywhere. This acronym I can say is not found in any scripture or any published Imperial text.
I believe NRDS is an oversimplification of the concept of 'only attacking your enemies' which many capsuleers try to propagandize as full blown 'Freespace Ideals'.
Imperial capsuleers enjoy throwing mud at Ushra'Khan by referring to them as an 'NBSI entity'(couldn,t find 'NBSI' in any scripture either, I assume based on the context of it's use that it's an oversimplified propaganda term used to dehumanize their enemies in the eyes of their pilots), however Ushra'Khan has a formal ROE dictating they must only fire upon their enemy which includes the residents of Providence supporting CVA. Calling them NBSI because of this is just propaganda based on the limitations of a ships user interface. |
Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.03 20:30:00 -
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9uy is going to fall, Doo-dah! Doo-dah! Soon I will be docking there, Oh, doo-dah day.
Gonna kill all night, Gonna kill all day, Slavers better pack their stuff, Cuz you're all gonna die today.
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Icarus3
Gallente DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.02.03 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Icarus3 on 03/02/2010 21:04:05
Originally by: Lykouleon 9uy is going to fall, Doo-dah! Doo-dah! Soon I will be docking there, Oh, doo-dah day.
Gonna kill all night, Gonna kill all day, Slavers better pack their stuff, Cuz you're all gonna die today.
*iCarus3 pours a nice glass of ale and grins as he hands it to Lykouleon for his fantastic and entertaining performance
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Mr Tritanium
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Posted - 2010.02.03 21:12:00 -
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.02.03 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: CVA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, WE'RE FINALLY GETTING OUR LONG-AWAITED AND RICHLY-DESERVED COMEUPPANCE AFTER THREE YEARS OF EYE-WATERING HUBRIS! IT'S NOT FAIR!
... basically. -----
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2010.02.03 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane
Originally by: CVA Stuffs[/b]
... basically.
Yo, dude, I'm a gonna let you finish, but CVA never cried in their post dawg.
I'm still trying to find all the QQing that you claim is in CVA's post...yeah, nothing there.
--Isaac
AMAAR VICTOR!
"You just can't fix stupid"
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Lilly Tigress
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Posted - 2010.02.03 22:20:00 -
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get out while you can, if you cant get out in time consider yourself inside a warzone and you will be shot at,
that is all
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edeity
Amarr Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2010.02.04 03:10:00 -
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Arrogance is the poison that has spread rot through providence. You grow weak old men and have forgotten the source of your strength. AAA is merely gods will made incarnate, and you arrogance is undergoing much due refining in the fire of war.
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.04 04:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: ChipMo
"Open to all who follow my rule" is a long long way from "free space". Star Fraction have not chosen to support -A-. Destroying Sev3rance was our first step towards taking out the CVA. (Re: Black Lustrum). Currently, we share an enemy with -A- that is all. We do however support Ushra'Khan by whatever means we have available.
Yes, the very same U'K who are dedicated to NRDS except in those places where it becomes a little bit inconvenient to them where they switch to NBSI. My point remains.
Just so we're clear, PIE are throwing rocks in a glass house because why? :)
Slaver rhetoric is as stale and flat from PIE as it is from CVA in their statement. If you're going to actually fight about it we'll see you on the battlefield.
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Kuseka Adama
Gallente Azriel's Legion Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.04 04:54:00 -
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The Hypocrisy in the statements made... *sound of glass breaking*
CVA for a long time tried to bring order to the wildlands exercising a policy no other alliance faction in the history of the capsuleer HAD EVER THE BALLS TO ATTEMPT! When this is over there will be no place safe. In our universe you make your own safety but only a fool would dare travel outside of empire now. The wildlands will belong to a bunch of clique loving backslapping fools demanding you pay money for something that can never be truly claimed. Every faction involved disgusts me to no end. CVA's Incompetence LFA's idiocy. PXF's foolish belief in CVA. -A-'s spying and down right fiendish act of public promises they never had any intention of fulfilling. U'K's acting like they're on top of the world when they have sooo much help. You say you believe in freedom...we all know what will happen when this is over. What providence will become. Freedom? Don't make me laugh. It will be as closed off as any other section of the wildlands and you know it. Anyone not willing to pay your price will be killed. You'll have bubbles on every gate all the way down the pipe. That makes you nothing more than simple bandits like every other faction out there.
When this is over those who laugh at this make no mistake. There will be no place accessible to an independent capsuleer. None. -A- will not continue the NRDS policy and nor will anyone else. Accessing null sec space will be a matter of who you know. With the recent downfall of 'OHGOD' the resurrection of the band of brothers in a new name and other events i find it doubtful that NRDS will play a role in galactic politics ever again. This is the end of an Era one with devastating results to far too many.
I made my peace long ago with what i did. I came back to start a new life but my time in this area of space two years ago left an indelible mark on my soul. It is with great pain i write this statement knowing full well the end result of what is about to happen. But i intend to make it clear to the independent capsuleer just what this all means. Believe what ever you want boys and girls. Every faction involved has blood on their hands and every faction involved is lying through their teeth. Some just hide it better. This marks the end of the independent capsuleer as we know it. There will be no point in being independent once this is over. None at all.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.04 05:07:00 -
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May we be judged as God sees fit. If we are lacking in His sight, may -A- purify us in fire.
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Black Necris
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.04 05:35:00 -
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For years i had waited for this event... your downfall CVA, the day your dream is shattered. Ill just be there to be sure this becomes a reality. "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."
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Ascentior
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.04 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine ...The "No Mercy" affair really did highlight the lies and ridiculous degree the CVA would go to in order to protect "its pirates" from the consquences of their actions. It was only when No Mercy turned to pirating Sev3rance alliance that CVA finally ended their positive standings and open invitation to Providence.
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Negative. There was no such "ample" evidence presented. Merdaneth shot a neutral pilot who was attempting to shadow a No.Mercy piracy operation...
Miss Constantine, you seem to be arguing with yourself here.
You claim on one hand that Merdaneth should not have shot an enemy spy because this time they were spying on a different corporation, even if it was in our war zone. Then you condemn CVA for NOT attacking another corporation that others had claimed was misbehaving. It sounds like CVA was simply treating a corporation that up to that point, were neutral/blue to CVA and Providence with the same respect they would any other corp in their territory. It is irrelevant what happened after that, because one can not condemn someone for actions that they have not yet taken.
Once we have this time consuming business of reclaiming done, we can focus on the minor task of making other corporations play nice with each other. In the mean time, we have some important work to do.
Would you prefer that Amarr loyalists police the entire New Eden? If so, I'm sure that God will grant us the level headed rationale to do so fairly. If you could all form a queue to the left, we shall begin the reclaiming process momentarily.
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.04 06:39:00 -
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Kuseka, I respond to your comments on to point out how utterly foolish they truly are.
First and foremost, CVA was never the first entity to operate under a NRDS policy, and will certainly not be the last. To claim they are the "pioneers" of chivalry in that sense is utterly stupid.
I whole-heartedly agree with you, CVA's incompetence in this situation is abhorrent. However, and perhaps this is where I separate myself from the majority of my alliance, I still have the upmost respect for the warriors of PXF and LFA. At least, even in a battle they are sure to lose, they have the gall and the manhood to stand up to their foes. As warriors, they deserve more respect than the pathetic hordes of CVA fools huddling in fear within the confines of their stations (or, in the majority, evacuating to the safe bosom of CONCORD). As to your accusations of -A- using spies...if you are seriously naive enough to suggest CVA and the other houlders are without their own spy network, I will leave you to your blissful little existence.
However, you seem to miss a large extent of what this conflict represents. Lawless space is just that: Lawless. There are no CONCORD here to protect you. Your miners will never be safe; your pilots will always live in fear. To not do so lulls you into a state of complacency and those that become compliant shall be eradicated. Lawless space has no gods and the only justice you will receive here will come from the end of my blasters. To think otherwise is of the upmost naivety.
This is the cold, harsh reality of space Kuseka. If you cannot handle it, turn in your pilotÆs license and return to a life of carefree do-gooding. Otherwise, adapt and survive. I, nor any other pilot worth his salt, will hold your hand in this void. Have the stones to fight for what you believe in, protect your pathetic masters and face me upon the battlefield, or turn now and run away with your tail between your legs back like the coward you are.
You seek independence? Then seek to live by the blade or die before it. Unless you are willing to truly fight for that which you believe, you do not deserve to utter the word ôFreedom.ö
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.04 08:42:00 -
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Im amazed by the number of people in providence utterly ignorant of history and their enemy. I suppose its far easier to keep people in line if you can control what they think.
Why not ask about the beginning of the war? Who built UNITY? Why?
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2010.02.04 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck May we be judged as God sees fit. If we are lacking in His sight, may -A- purify us in fire.
It seems like your God is seeing fit to judge Amarr in a negative light since back at 22762... Nothing new here too.
Perhaps once you abandon this silly superstition and start to operate by the ways of the Universe alone, things will change.
My farewell to Providence. I have enjoyed our wars.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
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Neena Valdi
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.04 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kuseka Adama -A-'s spying and down right fiendish act of public promises they never had any intention of fulfilling.
Why wouldn't we have any intention to fulfill our promises if they are in our own interests? Do you honestly think that we want a napland for hundreds of jumps in all directions?.. You guys started an aggression towards us. We made it clear that it won't be tolerated and then approached you with generous (even too generous in my personal opinion) proposition to basically call it a draw in this "match" wheres you get back what belongs to you, we keep what belongs to us and we return to a such rare in the EVE respectful status quo of no sov warfare against each other... But out of false sense of pride and because of arrogance your leadership had refused the treaty of peace.
Honestly, I don't know any single person in AAA who would want this war. But you leave us no choice.
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GBlock
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.04 09:31:00 -
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Too bad op's subject is wrong. as can be seen in leaked holder forum contents, this is not pepole of providence reply. this is CVA dictatorship's reply. -GBlock |
Darkmus Zay
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Posted - 2010.02.04 13:26:00 -
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I have heard mentioned, that there might be a civil war around the corner... and maybe there should be, if i were LFA, I wouldn't leave without a fight, and when you only have to lockdown one system...
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Kuseka Adama
Gallente Azriel's Legion Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.04 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lykouleon Kuseka, I respond to your comments on to point out how utterly foolish they truly are.
First and foremost, CVA was never the first entity to operate under a NRDS policy, and will certainly not be the last. To claim they are the "pioneers" of chivalry in that sense is utterly stupid.
I claim that no other faction including yours or -A- will have the balls to try. They might have not been the first my history in this area isn't omniscient but it doesn't change what will be.
Quote: I whole-heartedly agree with you, CVA's incompetence in this situation is abhorrent. However, and perhaps this is where I separate myself from the majority of my alliance, I still have the upmost respect for the warriors of PXF and LFA. At least, even in a battle they are sure to lose, they have the gall and the manhood to stand up to their foes. As warriors, they deserve more respect than the pathetic hordes of CVA fools huddling in fear within the confines of their stations (or, in the majority, evacuating to the safe bosom of CONCORD). As to your accusations of -A- using spies...if you are seriously naive enough to suggest CVA and the other houlders are without their own spy network, I will leave you to your blissful little existence.
((This borders on metagaming which i hate with an utter passion)) Oh i'm sure they do. Not that it mattered. But i've railed on this part of the GalNet for PXF to get out of the way of this being a former member of that organization.
Quote: However, you seem to miss a large extent of what this conflict represents. Lawless space is just that: Lawless. There are no CONCORD here to protect you. Your miners will never be safe; your pilots will always live in fear. To not do so lulls you into a state of complacency and those that become compliant shall be eradicated. Lawless space has no gods and the only justice you will receive here will come from the end of my blasters. To think otherwise is of the upmost naivety.
And again you prove you will be nothing more than simple bandits who operate under the guise of freedom. There is no free space. And there is no point for a single capsuleer to ever consider leaving the confines of empire none at all. If you're not willing to operate in a fleet of a hundred or more the wildlands are suicide. You claim you wish freedom for your people. The fact is freedom is for everyone or no one. If you are unwilling to pursue a policy in Null Sec space which alllows this then all you seek to do is take back lives from slavers. Which is a fair goal i cant argue that. But to do it in the guise of a concept so near and dear to my heart and the Gallente people when you are unwilling to take it all the way sickens me to NO end.
Quote: This is the cold, harsh reality of space Kuseka. If you cannot handle it, turn in your pilotÆs license and return to a life of carefree do-gooding. Otherwise, adapt and survive. I, nor any other pilot worth his salt, will hold your hand in this void. Have the stones to fight for what you believe in, protect your pathetic masters and face me upon the battlefield, or turn now and run away with your tail between your legs back like the coward you are.
You seek independence? Then seek to live by the blade or die before it. Unless you are willing to truly fight for that which you believe, you do not deserve to utter the word ôFreedom.ö
You've misread me entirely. I know what null sec space is i know the rules and i need no one's hand to hold. I left that area of space due to starting a new life. Do not attempt to put what you are doing under the guise of Freedom unless you're willing to pick up the sword you are trying so ardently to shatter. I challenge U'K to adopt the NRDS policy when this is over in that region of space. Put up or shut up. Right now you're nothing but bandits seeking to raid slavers. If you truly wish to gain respect. Prove you are truly for Freedom in every sense of the word.
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Marus Sulla
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.04 14:07:00 -
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Your ignorance of U'K, it's history and motivation are astounding.
Suffice to say if CVA were ever reduced to a single shuttle fleeing the Misaba pipe there would be a U'K pilot giving chase.
There will never be peace with slavery. Ever.
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Conlin
Gallente Mad Bombers Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.04 14:30:00 -
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Kuseka you yourself said it , your knowledge of the area , its history you know not . I strongly suggest you go back , do your homework , a lot more !!! ....... then come back and have an opinion .
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Drakus
Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.04 16:56:00 -
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I think what some people do not realise is that UK is not here to 'free providence' per say.
We are here to attack CVA and everything they stand for. If you activly support CVA, then you are an enemy. Like the saying, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, the reverse is true as well. The friend of my enemy in my enemy.
If CVA were to renouce slavery, free any and all slaves they had, then UK (for the most part) would be happy to leave them be. Of course there would be hard feelings, how could there not be?? We have been at war with them for years. That kind of hostility would not evaporate over night.
As well, (and i do not speak as a representitive of the UK) I believe that if some of providence holders were to renounce slavery, and not support CVA any longer, UK may well leave them alone as well.
Of course, this is all hypothetical, CVA will never renounce slavery, the provi holders are too much in the pockets of CVA to ever rebel... so until something changes there will be bloodshed in Providence, and in any space that practices slavery.
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.04 17:36:00 -
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Kuseka, your continued ignorance is blinding...
Ushra'Khan already operates under a NRDS policy. Despite what fools like PIE. will state, we have operated under that policy for far longer than CVA. You also forget other entities such as Big Blue and IRD that operate under similar policies.
You also miss the true warrior spirit of Ushra'Khan. Trust Doesn't Rust, for example, is a corporation based upon the strength of each individual pilot. We classically operate either as solo entities or in limited, small gangs. CVA, in their cowardice, sends fleets of 100 men to squelch a single TDR pilot, not the other way around. You want cajones, TDR has them. I also point to the examples set forth by the warriors Karn, Conlin, Ugleb, Ombey, and many others of Ushra'Khan that operate in similar fashions. Alone, an Ushra'Khan pilot is the bane of any Providence citizen's existance.
You talk of Gallente pride? And yet you support these slavers? The hipocracy there is blinding. Are your ears so filled with the lies of your masters that you have truely forgotten what freedom is? Freedom is the ability for pilots such as myself to fly without boundries. I thrive in my nullsec lifestyle because I am willing to defend myself and my ideals, even to the death. Your cowardice proves that you do not deserve your freedom, not that I have no understanding of it. Continue to huddle at your masters feet; allow him to wisper sweet nothings in your ears about "honor" and "faith". In the mean time, do not confuse your pathetic lifestyle with being free.
I challenge you, Kuseka. Be present in 9UY tomorrow evening. I will face you on the field of battle, we will test our resolves, and one will triumph. Do you have the warrior spirit to challenge me? Can you spit fire with your guns as well as you spit foolish words? Are you man enough to fight for what you view as freedom? As you elequently put it, "Put up or shut up."
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