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Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
416
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Posted - 2012.06.27 13:35:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote: So you want a mechanic to kill AFK players... but only afk players who aren't you (as the cloakies can't kill you when you're AFK sitting in your hulk at your pos, or docked in a station).
Nah, sorry mate.
Then log off if you are going AFK, keep in mind I did say 20 minutes. Why do you need to stay logged on if you aren't at your computer for 20 minutes ? And as you stated if you are AFK you can just go to a POS or station.
What valid reason do you need to be AFK and logged on ? With the mechanics I was talking about you could be AFK for 18 minutes and still have zero Issues. So explain to me why you have to be 100 % safe in space in Null ? You don't even get that being in a POS. You could be gone for an hour and someone could come through and kill that POS and you end up in Station. Cloaked in a system, 100 % safe, at worst you could get logged off that is it. EVERYBODY KNOWS |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1129
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Posted - 2012.06.27 13:39:00 -
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I just got a stealth bomber alt. I'm going to go afk cloak somewhere ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
416
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Posted - 2012.06.27 13:41:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:I just got a stealth bomber alt. I'm going to go afk cloak somewhere !
Everyone has done it from time to time.
The only thrill is getting in and out of system at times. The rest of the time it is worse then mining (it is just no fun at least if they are hunting you it makes it interesting)
Basically log on character on spare account. Log on another account and do whatever and glance over there every now and again if ever as most people just minimize it. EVERYBODY KNOWS |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
641
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Posted - 2012.06.27 13:42:00 -
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I want a mechanic that gives OP cerebral aneurysm. Please, mother Nature, make it happen. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
149
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Posted - 2012.06.27 13:48:00 -
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Afk cloaking is no more botting than traveling using the in-game autopilot. It requires a person to activate it and will do its thing until you tell it otherwise.
In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor Federal Consensus Outreach
1070
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:12:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:I just got a stealth bomber alt. I'm going to go afk cloak somewhere !
ENJOY YOUR BAN Mane 614
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Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:14:00 -
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Captain PewPew wrote:To get to it, Your presence in EVE is gameplay relevant. You're existence in a system affects flow and control of gameplay.
Being at attendance of your computer is you playing the game. AFK cloaking is a process of botting by allowing your computer to alter gameplay without your actual presence.
Discuss, and I'm mad, no I'm not quitting, I wish I had stuff so give me yours first.
To get to it, you logged in EVE is gameplay relevant. You're existence within the gaming universe affects flow and control of gameplay.
Being logged in through your computer is you playing the game. Since you are logged in and most of the time I am not, you and your computer alter gameplay without my actual presence.
Disgusted, and I'm mad, no I'm not quitting, I wish I had time to get stuff first.
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Nirnias Stirrum
Tr0pa de elite. Against ALL Authorities
202
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:31:00 -
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Confirming that no one has ever died due to an AFK cloaker. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
908
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:32:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Confirming that no one has ever died due to an AFK cloaker. Well... maybe of boredom. Or panic.
But certainly not in game. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1838
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Posted - 2012.06.27 14:33:00 -
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brb guys, I gotta go pee
*banned for botting* It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
104
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:26:00 -
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AFK cloaking is only a "problem" because local exists.
I have yet to collect a single killmail while being AFK though.
I have yet to collect a single killmail while being cloaked, also. |

Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:31:00 -
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Captain PewPew wrote:To get to it, Your presence in EVE is gameplay relevant. You're existence in a system affects flow and control of gameplay.
Being at attendance of your computer is you playing the game. AFK cloaking is a process of botting by allowing your computer to alter gameplay without your actual presence.
Discuss, and I'm mad, no I'm not quitting, I wish I had stuff so give me yours first.
Show us where the AFK cloaker touched you on the Nullbear doll.
Bring your possibles. |

Thelron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.06.27 16:29:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:I still believe there should be some method to scan down a cloaked ship. Granted it should take a very long time for actual cloaky ships and less for say a drake with a cloak but both should be scannable with enough time.
I am talking 20 minutes.
One probe to find a player and put you on the same grid. (random 100 ~ 200km distance from them) Another probe that can find a player with a slow moving probe that basically explodes and decloaks them. Wrath of Khan "The thing has to have a tail pipe" PS - can only use a covert OPS to find the cloaky ship.
IF someone is truly AFK they can be found. if not well the chances would be almost 0.
A lot of things would probably work a lot better if it took >20 mins to scan down ANY ship, like long-range engagements and sales of +optimal ammunition for guns other than blasters. And sales of cloaky ships that could be used to get a warp-in on distant fleets since you can't just have someone probe you to it (also, should only be able to warp to something that *isn't* cloaked, IMO).
Also,
Undiscovered Country
that is all. |

Equimanthorn
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
5
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Posted - 2012.06.27 16:31:00 -
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Captain PewPew wrote:To get to it, Your presence in EVE is gameplay relevant. You're existence in a system affects flow and control of gameplay.
Being at attendance of your computer is you playing the game. AFK cloaking is a process of botting by allowing your computer to alter gameplay without your actual presence.
Discuss, and I'm mad, no I'm not quitting, I wish I had stuff so give me yours first.
I think the only way to solve your problem is to remove local. |

Cessarya Secheh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.27 16:37:00 -
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Captain PewPew wrote:To get to it, Your presence in EVE is gameplay relevant. You're existence in a system affects flow and control of gameplay.
Being at attendance of your computer is you playing the game. AFK cloaking is a process of botting by allowing your computer to alter gameplay without your actual presence.
Discuss, and I'm mad, no I'm not quitting, I wish I had stuff so give me yours first.
S T F U
H T F U
At least miners complain because they actually get exploded. You're whining due to absolutely nothing happening to you.
CCP to remove afk cloaking because random and spontaneous pvp might happen! |

Boober Fraggle
3
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Posted - 2012.06.27 16:40:00 -
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You want care bear day care? Because if you are hanging out in a system with 1 person, you are a carebear.
What about at keyboard cloaking for 8-10 hours? Thats a brilliant tactic and has netted me kills.
Oh wait, then someone starts a thread about how bad alts are.
In order to not "ruin eve" I have to be at keyboard and cloaked for no more than 10 minutes, and not be playing an alt.
I'll remember that while you cry and I cloak... |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
910
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Posted - 2012.06.27 16:42:00 -
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Edit: I totally misunderstood... blah I'm off my game today |

Ohanka
Aggressive Narcissists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
162
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Posted - 2012.06.27 16:45:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Um... no it isn't.
Botting is using a 3rd party program to mimic human behavior, ie to play the game for you.
AFK cloaking is specifically not playing the game.
Another ALT |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1130
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:06:00 -
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Ohanka wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Um... no it isn't.
Botting is using a 3rd party program to mimic human behavior, ie to play the game for you.
AFK cloaking is specifically not playing the game. Another ALT AFK cloaking is the new ice interdiction. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
911
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:10:00 -
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Ohanka wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Um... no it isn't.
Botting is using a 3rd party program to mimic human behavior, ie to play the game for you.
AFK cloaking is specifically not playing the game. Another ALT I'm confused, who am I supposed to be an alt of? Especially based on that comment? |
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Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
111
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:15:00 -
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i am a meat popcicle that must go use the toilet while my stealth bomber floats in your 0.0 space. OMFG when did they call this botting?!?!?!
But seriously there is a definitive line between AFK cloaky in nullbear land to actuall botting.
Actuall Botting is a 3rd party program in many cases that alters game play doing the key strokes for ya and so on while youare off doing something else for hours. This, in other words is called CHEATING.
Haters going to Hate Cheaters are going to cheat Winners are going to KICK ASS |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
443
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:16:00 -
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Ziranda Hakuli wrote:i am a meat popcicle that must go use the toilet while my stealth bomber floats in your 0.0 space. OMFG when did they call this botting?!?!?!
But seriously there is a definitive line between AFK cloaky in nullbear land to actuall botting.
Actuall Botting is a 3rd party program in many cases that alters game play doing the key strokes for ya and so on while youare off doing something else for hours. This, in other words is called CHEATING.
Haters going to Hate Cheaters are going to cheat Winners are going to KICK ASS
not empty quoting...
tbh if a hulk has to tank and ipso facto takes a isk income hit so too should nullbears...
PLEX FOR PIZZA! -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Crunchie Attuxors
Always Another Corporate Venture
53
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:24:00 -
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Captain PewPew wrote:
Botting is a computer controlling and affecting an environment without human presence.
No.
Botting is using a bot, using a are software application, to mimic human behavior.
AFK cloaking is, well, being AFK while cloaked.
I have no interest in the debate over the butthurt Afk cloacking causes (I see merit to the argument both sides make, and will adapt either way).
However, this argument is based on an attempt to use "botting" as a slur, rather than as a technical description.
For example, bots are central to the operation of the internet and the web. Their use in competitive games (like this) is discouraged for reasons of basic fairness. But there is nothing inherently evil with bots. And trying to make this re-definition creates a lowering of the discourse.
If you want to argue against AFK cloaking, fine. But do it with logic and reasoning, not with spurious misuse of the English language.
Eve forums official anthem:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudOFG5X6uA |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1526
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:25:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:I still believe there should be some method to scan down a cloaked ship. Granted it should take a very long time for actual cloaky ships and less for say a drake with a cloak but both should be scannable with enough time.
I am talking 20 minutes.
One probe to find a player and put you on the same grid. (random 100 ~ 200km distance from them) Another probe that can find a player with a slow moving probe that basically explodes and decloaks them. Wrath of Khan "The thing has to have a tail pipe" PS - can only use a covert OPS to find the cloaky ship.
IF someone is truly AFK they can be found. if not well the chances would be almost 0.
Props for contributing a post with substance in a GD troll thread, even though I don't really agree.
There are two types of ships. Ones that use a cov ops cloak and everything else.
For the ships like cov ops and T3s that are specifically designed to be undetectable, I'm inclined to go the complete opposite of what you suggest, but with the same end result of not annoying the locals and making them cower in fear behind their POS shields. I think these ships should live up to their name and be completely undetectable. That means not showing up in local at all. I would also like to see Black Ops included in the ships that can fit a C/O cloak but that's another topic.
For the other ships that just slap a cloak on because they can, I'm not so sure. Make them able to be probed out? That might be a little extreme. I think increasing penalties might be more the way to go. Such as a timer on the cloak or something like that.
Mr Epeen 
There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |

Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
61
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:39:00 -
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Just move to a WH, and have an affair with the dscan button. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
378
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:43:00 -
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Title: "AFK Cloaking is botting."
GTFO and HTFU when you get better arguments.
I'm living in null and I deal with those every single time I log on.
Use those f++cking intell chans, set traps, take notes, deal with it dammit !!
I don't know how you guys can complain about this, it's player created content with in game tools, I'm having fun with those and some times we even manage to "troll" each other or just make jokes about reactions.
Isn't this a splendid show off of what a social network game should look like? -it is !!
Stop complaining plz brb |

Soulpirate
Bedrock Industrial
155
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:45:00 -
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Cloaking should remove you from local. |

Diablo Ex
Red-Five
49
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:48:00 -
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Tell you what, I think I will make this easier for you, OK?
When you see me (Diablo Ex) cloaked up in your system, start looking at your D-Scan. If you see combat probes out, I'm not AFK.
No probes= AFK, safe to come out and play.
( Of course I make it a point to always have probes out, they are just 20 AU + above the planetary plane, beyond detection range of your D-scanner, but can be quickly redeployed in seconds to get a "warp-in" on that long undock bookmark you think makes you safe - but that also means that I uncloak for about 20 seconds every hour to keep the probes fresh). PRO SYNERGY - We salvage and process the loot, and pay YOU for it. Proven methodology, weekly payout, great attitude. - join game channel "Pro Synergy" for details. http://sites.google.com/site/prospersynergy/ |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
444
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Posted - 2012.06.27 17:50:00 -
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Diablo Ex wrote:Tell you what, I think I will make this easier for you, OK?
When you see me (Diablo Ex) cloaked up in your system, start looking at your D-Scan. If you see combat probes out, I'm not AFK.
No probes= AFK, safe to come out and play.
( Of course I make it a point to always have probes out, they are just 20 AU + above the planetary plane, beyond detection range of your D-scanner, but can be quickly redeployed in seconds to get a "warp-in" on that long undock bookmark you think makes you safe).
serious if there are nuets in the system and if you are in npc null space just do missions they put you deep in space and just keep an eye on d-scan...
if not get an alt in a cloaky falcon and he will save you if you are attacked... if not fit half pve half pvp and be prepared to die... PLEX FOR PIZZA! -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Tybalt151
can't do that while warping
1
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:02:00 -
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I apologize. Next time I will attempt to drag my desktop in with me when I go to make the poop. My bad. |
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