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domitesting
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Posted - 2010.02.04 16:56:00 -
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I think the title is self explanatory, however just to give it some more teeth, main reasons are well firstly you decide that your original name was a bit naff and now its time for a change, secondly you bought a char and still think the name was a bif naff...see where we are going here....and thirdly your original choice was not available and hey you just found out it is..quick let me get it...oh wait...I cant...
- CCP can charge their usual $10 for this - extra revenue which Im sure would be constant
- CCP Can implement a name change history log just like employment history
Will this have an impact on ingame no not at all, if your not sure about someone, then check their history.
Either this or remove the checks for char, corp, alliance names that cant be the same, I still cant undertstand why the hell CCP did it this way..I mean why cant i havea char named fred and an alliance named fred, or infact even my corp..
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.02.04 18:10:00 -
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not supported.
if you would have used the search (in doubt http://www.eve-search.com/) you would have found out that the topic was discussed to death already.
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Pian Shu
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.04 20:03:00 -
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And you would have found that a lot of people support the idea.
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Jonah Pod
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Posted - 2010.02.04 20:16:00 -
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Second this, thanks for necro'ing :)
If plastic surgery services are offered by CCP, name changes should be supported as well.
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domitesting
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Posted - 2010.02.04 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever not supported.
if you would have used the search (in doubt http://www.eve-search.com/) you would have found out that the topic was discussed to death already.
sorry for not being a geek and reading every eve forum..however be nice to know why you felt it wasnt supported..however supporting my own idea
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Syringe
Incura Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.04 22:54:00 -
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Absolutely not.
One of the things that makes EVE so unique is that your reputation sticks with you. Take a look at the Joe Phoenix story, MissCEO, or pretty much anything that Nexa Necis has written about.
Even with the name change history, I think that this would be still not be a forward enough indicator as to who that person is - it's not their identity. It's linked to their identity, but it won't carry the same weight and won't be nearly as visible.
If you want a namechange, reroll and try again.
Besides, I kinda like the cut of your jib, sailor...
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2010.02.04 23:08:00 -
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NO. Its hard enough keeping a track on Corp thieves and spies as-is. Your proposal has been discussed to death.
No, no NO! --Isaac
AMAAR VICTOR!
"You just can't fix stupid"
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Jim Raynor
Sinister Corporation
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Posted - 2010.02.04 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 04/02/2010 23:29:13 If it was a one time thing per account and if on your show info somewhere it showed your previous alias.. so yeah why not? :) ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.02.04 23:48:00 -
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Not supported.
Disposable alts, trials etc are already too difficult to keep track of and manage giving many idiots easy ways to do what they please with little if any consequences.
Now you want to be able to escape your past on the idea that when Naming your character that you will be investing hundreds of hours of time developing is something you did 'on a whim' read 'your original name was a bit naff and now its time for a change'. If you couldn't come up with a decent name you could live with why bother playing, it isn't hard picking a name that isn't crap like 'fdg8kds' so you won't ever need to change it. All a pilot has in Eve that is constant is their name and you want to remove that, no no a thousand times no.
Even adding a list of previous names won't help, you can just change your name every month or week, or day or whatever interval they set if they even set one. You still have issues with standings, ally lists, out of game lists cause CCP hasn't upgraded the max in game. How about when I search for 'fdg8kds' is it going to show him as 'Robert039' now that he changed or show he's gone? Can someone else become 'fdg8kds' now that he has changed his name to 'Robert039'? If so there's a new headache cause that person is always going to show that is their 'first name'. If not you've just increased the database entries of items that can never be used again, you didn't like 'Darthvader394' well now no one else can use it ever again.
You made a decision to name your character deal with it, if you can't handle the responsibility of naming a character in a game no one can help you quit playing computer games buy a goldfish and rename it everyday.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.05 01:14:00 -
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Been discussed to death.
I said no before, I'm saying no now.
Your name is who you are in Eve Online. If you picked a stupid name, that's your own problem. If you don't like the reputation associated with your name, that, also, is your own problem.
The ONLY time I would approve character name changes is during the character sale process, and even that's iffy to me. --Vel
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FU22
Space Perverts Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.05 02:43:00 -
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I would quite like this implemented.
The term i would add though is that the new name has to in some form reflect your curret name.
For example my name is FU22 (fuzz), if this came around I would be on it like a shot and change it to something along the lines of FUzzeh or whatever is free near that.
(After all my time playing this game i seriously regret having numbers in my name as it is read as F*** you twenty two )
Originally by: Millie Clode Dear santa, for christmas I would like an endless supply of noobs to march across my screen so I can pretend I'm playing duck hunt
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2010.02.05 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin Your name is who you are in Eve Online. If you picked a stupid name, that's your own problem. If you don't like the reputation associated with your name, that, also, is your own problem.
The ONLY time I would approve character name changes is during the character sale process, and even that's iffy to me.
This.
In a reputation based system, identity is key.
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Furb Killer
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Posted - 2010.02.05 08:21:00 -
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Which would have made sense if people didnt have 10 alts and could sell and buy new chars whenever they feel like doing it. As it stands now there is no reason not to implement it, although of course it should be easy to find someone when searching for his old name, and the other way around.
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CommmanderInChief
Unorganised Crime
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Posted - 2010.02.05 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Aineko Macx
Originally by: De'Veldrin Your name is who you are in Eve Online. If you picked a stupid name, that's your own problem. If you don't like the reputation associated with your name, that, also, is your own problem.
The ONLY time I would approve character name changes is during the character sale process, and even that's iffy to me.
This.
In a reputation based system, identity is key.
I guess we shouldnt allow employment history then? I guess youll have to stay in the same corp forever..Same thing isnt it? I mean is it because you cant be bothered to click on a char name history tab? seriously!...
Your not hiding from anything, the history is there..please think before you post..ta
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.02.05 13:42:00 -
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No way, if you mess up your reputation, you have to live with it.
And choose your name wisely.
In EVE actions have consequences, this is not WoW.
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Lord Dralos
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Posted - 2010.02.05 16:31:00 -
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well im against this name change system for the main reason has anyone looked at the news lately that goonswarm fell apart due to their one of their leaderships who is claimed to have taken billions of goonswarm assets and your wanting to allow name changes would then give that player who took away all them assets to just change his character name and restart with billions of ill gotten assets ?? ........no i think not if he has indeed taken all them assets away then he should have to face the music of several hundreds of angry players who where part of his alliance there must be accountability of some sort if name change idea gets implemented then i believe lots of players will just give up playing eve altogether as whats the point if actions as bad as these go unpunished just by changing your name ??
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2010.02.05 17:01:00 -
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If implemented properly (with a one-time cost, and a rule like, no more than once per year or per character), I will support this.
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.02.05 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Dralos well im against this name change system for the main reason has anyone looked at the news lately that goonswarm fell apart due to their one of their leaderships who is claimed to have taken billions of goonswarm assets and your wanting to allow name changes would then give that player who took away all them assets to just change his character name and restart with billions of ill gotten assets ?? ........no i think not if he has indeed taken all them assets away then he should have to face the music of several hundreds of angry players who where part of his alliance there must be accountability of some sort if name change idea gets implemented then i believe lots of players will just give up playing eve altogether as whats the point if actions as bad as these go unpunished just by changing your name ??
In all honesty, that's why players have alts and religiously protect the identity of their alts.
The only situation where changing a character's name would be okay is if it was being traded to another person. As there really wouldn't be a way to prevent people from changing their character's name (trade to a friend/alt, change name, trade back), I don't think this proposal is a good one. Even if you allow the old name to link to the new character, characters would end up having a string of name changes, and it really would cease to serve the purpose of protecting the purchasing player from the selling player's actions with the character anyway.
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Lord Dralos
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Posted - 2010.02.05 19:43:00 -
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yes bagehi the use of an alt allows them to transfer their ill gotten gains but doesnt allow them to keep their ill gotten gains on a main with several years of training under its belt if you give them name change abilities not only can they steal vast fortunes but they get brand new identity also this idea has so far proven that those with bad reputations from theft scams etc can now just effectively delete it with a simple name change not a good plan imo
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159Pinky
Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.02.05 19:50:00 -
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Allthough I'd like this a lot, to avoid getting primed in fights due to my name I don't think this is a good idea, as some others allready mentioned: you have a reputation and that's a very important thing in eve.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.05 21:31:00 -
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So then link accounts to each other when they are from same person (sure not always possible, but still as much as possible). And remove ability to buy and sell chars, since otherwise it doesnt make any sense at all.
Well even if all those things would be removed it wouldnt make any sense, how would it have any effect on your reputation when you can just see your previous names just like corp history? And apparently this isnt WoW and everything should have consequences, also the name you decided to take when you started. So why are you allowed to leave a corporation? Being in that corporation could have affected your reputation, yet you are allowed to leave it. And you made the decission to join it, why not be stuck in it for the rest of your eve career?
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Feone
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Posted - 2010.02.06 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: CommmanderInChief
Originally by: Aineko Macx
Originally by: De'Veldrin Your name is who you are in Eve Online. If you picked a stupid name, that's your own problem. If you don't like the reputation associated with your name, that, also, is your own problem.
The ONLY time I would approve character name changes is during the character sale process, and even that's iffy to me.
This.
In a reputation based system, identity is key.
I guess we shouldnt allow employment history then? I guess youll have to stay in the same corp forever..Same thing isnt it? I mean is it because you cant be bothered to click on a char name history tab? seriously!...
Your not hiding from anything, the history is there..please think before you post..ta
Take your own advice, corp history is different with keeping tabs on a player character since the characters name does not change and has nothing to do with the issue being discussed here.
Checking a player's name tab is an extra step where there was none before, if we have standing/data on a player by name it now has to be researched-yes show info-aliases in order to identify the player because you want to hide.
NOT SUPPORTED.
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Sepheir Sepheron
BAHRAM Military
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Posted - 2010.02.06 04:31:00 -
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Supported, know so many people who hate their names and don't want to remake cause it will take a massive amount of time.
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Deejathoris
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Posted - 2010.02.06 12:07:00 -
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If done properly, like remaps this would be good.
people whining about keeping track of people etc, honestly the employment history still exists. this would just be a sanctioned method of removing a 13 year old child's attempt at leet speak when you buy a character.
or if you were drunk during character creation.
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Captain Huber
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Posted - 2010.02.06 13:10:00 -
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thumbs up, asked for since ages.
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Bunyip
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.02.06 19:44:00 -
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While I doubt CCP would allow this due to the mechanics of the game, I would personally like to do this, even if it could only be done once per character. I have a few names that I wish were something else, so it would be nice to do.
Supported, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2010.02.06 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: CommmanderInChief I guess we shouldnt allow employment history then?
lolwut?
Originally by: Furb Killer Well even if all those things would be removed it wouldnt make any sense, how would it have any effect on your reputation when you can just see your previous names just like corp history?
A name gives instant recognizability. Allowing name changes weakens the identifying property of names, even with the traceability given by a history.
Quote: And apparently this isnt WoW and everything should have consequences, also the name you decided to take when you started. So why are you allowed to leave a corporation? Being in that corporation could have affected your reputation, yet you are allowed to leave it. And you made the decission to join it, why not be stuck in it for the rest of your eve career?
This is a forced comparison, there are some big differences between a corp and a char. For instance, you can define every property of you char during creation, while the persons playing chars in a corp are out of your control. If you don't fit in, its natural that you go somewhere else. Not to mention that typically a char is a more long lasting instance than the bond between players represented by a corp. And like you said, in eve everything has a consequence. The act of joining/leaving corps is noted permanently in your history.
Every system I saw where users were allowed to change their user/char names was abused and brought annoyances with it.
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Bonny Lee
Caldari The Guardian Agency Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.02.06 23:30:00 -
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Only Supported if there is a Name History like the Corp History and that it is viewable by every player ingame.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.02.07 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin Been discussed to death.
I said no before, I'm saying no now.
Your name is who you are in Eve Online. If you picked a stupid name, that's your own problem. If you don't like the reputation associated with your name, that, also, is your own problem.
The ONLY time I would approve character name changes is during the character sale process, and even that's iffy to me.
This.
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MP Rhianna
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Posted - 2010.02.07 14:54:00 -
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Not supported.
Read the not supporting reasons, then read the supporting reasons, you will see valid reasons why this is bad vs 'I don't like my name', which was picked by them, or if a character was bought...surprise you bought it as it was, this is EVE deal with it.
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