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Karak Terrel
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Posted - 2012.06.27 23:17:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:
There never really was any use for C for me,
as i could do the same things in pascal and faster in assembler anyway.
"Some people seem to think that C is a real programming language, but they are sadly mistaken. It really is about writing almost-portable assembly language ..." Linus Torvalds
If i take a look at the software stack on the operating system i work with (Linux) most of the stuff is coded with C. In some occasions there are C++ and maybe python. Stuff like Java, php, ruby, perl, etc pops up as soon as you enter web application territory.
I however never encountered anything useful written in pascal. I don't know the language, but from my perspective it seams like an overhyped fanboy language with no realworld usage. Like smalltalk, stuff you learn at the university but never ever use in real applications. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2012.06.28 02:04:00 -
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Karak Terrel wrote:Solstice Project wrote:
There never really was any use for C for me,
as i could do the same things in pascal and faster in assembler anyway.
"Some people seem to think that C is a real programming language, but they are sadly mistaken. It really is about writing almost-portable assembly language ..." Linus Torvalds If i take a look at the software stack on the operating system i work with (Linux) most of the stuff is coded with C. In some occasions there are C++ and maybe python. Stuff like Java, php, ruby, perl, etc pops up as soon as you enter web application territory. I however never encountered anything useful written in pascal. I don't know the language, but from my perspective it seams like an overhyped fanboy language with no realworld usage. Like smalltalk, stuff you learn at the university but never ever use in real applications.
As I remember it, Pascal was a "student language". I took courses at night for it at an overseas college run on a military base, and the course used Pascal in the first 2 "semesters" (the schedule is not like real college) and if you passed the first 2, they went onto C. I passed but it was time to go home before taking the class in C - continued that at a local community college.
Ah the memories!!! I had a used Zenith Supersport with a 8088 processor and a copy of Borland Pascal and I said "OK if this thing runs Pascal, I can take the course" and it worked. I still have one of those 2 ton (relatively) monochrome laptops with the 8088 processors - heck it had 2 700K drives so I had to boot from one and run Borland from the other. The keyboard on that laptop is still the best in the world and the only thing that comes close is Das Keyboard (for real people with real hands) but they are expensive.
When I got home I was living in the fast lane: I got a used 386. 
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MagicAcid
Star Frontiers Unlimited
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Posted - 2012.06.28 04:23:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Kyle Ward wrote:I'm sure they have QA guys, they probably just weren't hiring any *new* guys. Its also significantly harder to test commercial software that has to work on 500k frankenmachines and gawd knows what other abominations the EVE players are running, than corporate software for internal use on a few thousand standardized machines.
edit: Also, this game is 9 years old, I can only imagine the horror those guys must go threw tryining to make new features and decade old lagacy code play nice... Yep.
I am still waiting for support for my Cyrix MII-433GP CPU beast.
If you could compile a version for Itanium that would be nice too!
Also I demand you make EvE run on my CPU built within Minecraft. |
Alain Kinsella
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Posted - 2012.06.29 20:48:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I still have one of those 2 ton (relatively) monochrome laptops with the 8088 processors - heck it had 2 700K drives so I had to boot from one and run Borland from the other. The keyboard on that laptop is still the best in the world and the only thing that comes close is Das Keyboard (for real people with real hands) but they are expensive.
try? http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/
I poked them an email about layout, and they replied there is a version in the works that will put it in a semi-fake Unix layout (CTRL where CAPS is today). Yes the HHK is available but they don't do that in full size (I need the arrow set and the numberpad).
As for myself, I'm a Nothgate Omnikey Ultra owner (and two of the similar replacements by Avant). Apparently those used the same mechanical keys as the TRS-80s (which explains why I've liked the feel for so long). However, their complexity (and virtual indestructibility) made it hard to sell many, and now the Avant folks have folded too.  Not a complete loss though, as I discovered that this key type is not modifiable to make quieter (hence my I poked the WASD folks - you *can* quiet down the Cherry keys).
Regarding Pascal - yes, alongside BASIC they were the training languages a couple decades back. They're actually very good for learning data structures without having to pull your hair out every 5th compile (because Pascal compilers won't let you do some of the messy tricks with pointers that gets you in trouble with C). Nowadays I'm told C# & Java are being used as the introduction language.
As a Solaris/Linux Admin though, I still happier with insane shell scripting (with csh when possible).
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.29 21:03:00 -
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Okay you all are umm going back a ways to be talking about FORTRAN 77 and PASCAL those where taught in 1st year ENG-150
That was a long time ago and probably the easiest A I ever got in a class.
Things have come a LONG LONG WAY from those.
HEH good analogy is taking a WW1 pilot and thowing them into a 747 and say there you go.
Basic principles intact, the rest FORGET IT
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