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Sperrzone
Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.02.11 13:24:00 -
[61]
CCP wants you to get some food !!!
in German :
geh MITTAGESSEN !
got it ?
good
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.02.11 14:09:00 -
[62]
Get a job.
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Hemp Invader
g guild Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2010.02.11 15:27:00 -
[63]
Can i have your stuff? I had to say that...sorry :(
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Julius Rigel
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Posted - 2010.02.11 15:34:00 -
[64]
Originally by: ZombieFX Why is the downtime in the middel of the day?
Because have you looked at the online users graph? Downtime is right smack in that valley where there's virtually nobody online.
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Mister Gimp
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Posted - 2010.02.11 15:40:00 -
[65]
It's at midday to give all you dole scroungers a sociable hour to pretend to look for a job so you can carry on claiming JSA. Truth. |
Grez
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.02.11 15:47:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Grez on 11/02/2010 15:47:44
Originally by: Taedrin For two reasons:
a) Current downtime is convenient for CCP staff, as they don't have to wake up at odd hours in the morning to make sure downtime happens smoothly. Having downtime when more staff is available probably makes more sense for them b) Current downtime is in the morning for US customers, which are a large portion of EVE's players. If downtime was during Europe's morning hours, then it would occur in the middle of US prime time. c) current downtime is in the middle of the work day for EVE's Europe players.
Thus the current downtime is optimal because it is convenient for CCP, and it avoids prime time for the majority of EVE's players.
You fail. A HUGE majority of EVE players are from Europe, not America. The one, and only, reason they do it at that time is because the servers are hosted in England, and it's at that time that most of the work can be done on them if issues arise.
If it suited CCP to have it at 2am GMT, then we'd have it then, but it doesn't, so it's not. Simple. ---
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Liol Wongsta
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.02.11 16:01:00 -
[67]
Simple. Hamsters get fed at lunch time where they live.
As a player formerly based in Australia, but now in South America, DT used to suck for me. 9pm DT is a killer for shot-o-clock ops. You get way to trashed during DT Team Speak shenanigans to continue functioning after DT.
Aussies used to moan that if DT was 2 hours later it wouldnt effect any where near as many people, but in reality it would start hitting on the UK school kiddies getting home.
Fact, Aussies are only 3ish% of the eve player base. DT where it is makes the most sense on so many levels. If over 40% of the players are asleep(USA/Canada and South America combined) and approx another 40% are (should be) at work or School, why not have it when it is?
But ultimately, it all comes back to the Hamsters getting fed in the middle of the day as that is best for their metabolisms.
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Wesfahrn
WESCORP 2.0
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Posted - 2010.02.11 16:02:00 -
[68]
Look at the chart, everyone logs of there anyway
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Mistress Servelan
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Posted - 2010.02.11 16:43:00 -
[69]
It's not, it's at 6am.
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Alphonse Diago
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Posted - 2010.02.11 17:33:00 -
[70]
What is this downtime you are all speaking of?
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Amerilia
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Posted - 2010.02.11 17:38:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Julius Rigel
Originally by: ZombieFX Why is the downtime in the middel of the day?
Because have you looked at the online users graph? Downtime is right smack in that valley where there's virtually nobody online.
It is there because people avoid sticking around before the server shuts down...
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Corywyn
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Posted - 2010.02.11 17:44:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Amerilia
Originally by: Julius Rigel
Originally by: ZombieFX Why is the downtime in the middel of the day?
Because have you looked at the online users graph? Downtime is right smack in that valley where there's virtually nobody online.
It is there because people avoid sticking around before the server shuts down...
^ this. It's hard to be online if the server is offline (amazing how many refer to that graph without thinking about that 'tiny' detail ...)
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Mugster
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Posted - 2010.02.11 17:53:00 -
[73]
This thread needs more Quantum Entanglement discussion, way more interesting that discussing time zones.
Quantum Entanglement
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Taxesarebad
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Posted - 2010.02.11 17:58:00 -
[74]
united states are win, doesnt the world know that yet? anyways its only 1 hour, so eat lunch and check emails
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Morgan Oakenwolf
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Posted - 2010.02.11 18:49:00 -
[75]
as someone mentioned earlier, the user count graph has always looked like this: Linkage
I've been playing for about 4 years give or take and it's always looked like that. Though, instead of leveling off at ~20k, it use to level off around ~5k.
I would think they started the down time when it was convenient and would have moved it if the user base peak was at that time it it had been needed.
just my thoughts.
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TheMahdi
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Posted - 2010.02.11 20:23:00 -
[76]
Be glad your not Australian.
Downtime is at a most inconvenient 9-10 PM. Pretty much prime time. Get home, have dinner, start playing. THEN DOWNTIME!
I'd say, get a job and then it won't bother you.
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000Hunter000
Gallente Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2010.02.11 21:28:00 -
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Meh, time is relative, i mean we all have experienced the sensation where sometimes a minute seems to take an hour and an hour goes by in a flash... ________________________________________________
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Gort
Minmatar Federation of Freedom Fighters En Garde
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Posted - 2010.02.11 21:34:00 -
[78]
It's when the people doing the work are available. -- When in doubt, empty the magazine. |
Kyra Felann
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.11 22:38:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Kyra Felann on 11/02/2010 22:40:43
Originally by: Ivy Scorn Aw, a cute american failpost. Dude, you can't compare the US to one single country within Europe. If anything, you'd have to compare against the entirety of Europe. But even that would be pretty much nonsense.
I think it's sad how so many Europeans seem to feel so smug and self-superior or inadequate or threatened or whatever that they have to make it personal any time they disagree with an American. Every single time anyone has disagreed with my posts in this thread, they've attacked be personally because of my nationality. I haven't attacked anyone because of their nationality. Yet you think we're the close-minded bigots? If you think you are so much more cultured and enlightened than us dumb hillbilly Americans, maybe you should set a better example.
Anyway, back to the facts if you add up all the European subscriber percentages (not counting Ukraine and Russia, although I did add in all other Eastern European countries), it still adds up to slightly more (less than one percent more) than the US's subscriber percentage, then throw Canada in and North America has more than all of Europe combined, except for Ukraine and Russia.
All I've said this whole thread is that I'm sure the percentage of their players that they're inconveniencing probably entered into the decision and that almost 40% of their players are in North America, with most of the rest being in Western Europe, where unless I'm mistaken, it's still at a fairly convenient time (and of course convenient for CCP). I do feel sorry for the Aussies and Kiwis though, since it's right at prime time for them, but if you'll notice, they happen to be a very small percentage statistically.
If you disagree with the above speculation, that's fine, but attacking my and my country when it really doesn't enter into the argument is showing how small-minded you are.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.02.11 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Felann
I think it's sad how so many Europeans seem to feel so smug and self-superior or inadequate or threatened or whatever that they have to make it personal any time they disagree with an American.
There are two types of Americans.
The first type believes that the U.S. is simply a part of a larger whole that is the world at large. I fall into that category.
The second believes there are two types of people; Americans and everyone else and two places; the U.S. and everywhere else. You fall into this category.
I look at the D/T thing with an open mind and realize that, if Occam's razor holds true, that D/T is when it is because that is when it makes the most sense for CCP employees to have it.
You, on the other hand, knowing as you do that the only reason anything happens is because that's what makes Americans happy, know that no matter where CCP was located that they would, of course, make their D/T to coincide with the desires of the greatest people in the world.
That, my dear neighbor, is why you get centered out for ridicule. Not because of your nationality, but because of your attitude.
Mr Epeen
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Smk56
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Posted - 2010.02.12 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Smk56 on 12/02/2010 00:36:45
Originally by: Mr Epeen The second believes there are two types of people; Americans and everyone else and two places; the U.S. and everywhere else. You fall into this category.
And you know this how exactly?
He hasn't done anything except stated his opinion and supported it with facts. He's also most likely correct. CCP is a business and keeping customers happy is usually a priority of most businesses. I'm sure they would suck it up and do it at a different time if it meant a bigger payday.
Also how does his nationality even factor in.
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Hakurei Border
Gensokyo
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Posted - 2010.02.12 00:53:00 -
[82]
You got 1 hour to eat, that's not that bad. ;)
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.02.12 01:37:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Smk56 Edited by: Smk56 on 12/02/2010 00:36:45
Originally by: Mr Epeen The second believes there are two types of people; Americans and everyone else and two places; the U.S. and everywhere else. You fall into this category.
And you know this how exactly?
He hasn't done anything except stated his opinion and supported it with facts. He's also most likely correct. CCP is a business and keeping customers happy is usually a priority of most businesses. I'm sure they would suck it up and do it at a different time if it meant a bigger payday.
Also how does his nationality even factor in.
You might try reading more than the first and last post before you blather.
Mr Epeen
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2010.02.12 01:45:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Spurty Why is your 'l' at the end of your "middel" ?
Because he's a German nutjob.
Well, the actual spelling probably has more to do with the German part and less with the nutjob, but I stand by my statement.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.12 01:48:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Kyra Felann on 12/02/2010 01:49:09
Originally by: Mr Epeen That, my dear neighbor, is why you get centered out for ridicule. Not because of your nationality, but because of your attitude.
Please show me a quote from this thread of me saying or implying that America and Americans are better than anyone else and that the world and everyone in it should go out of their ways to please us. I've backed up my position with facts, but you haven't backed up your assertion of my "attitude" at all.
I gave you numbers and facts directly from CCP illustrating that we represent by far the largest percentage of the EVE playerbase. I said that the time zones of the majority of players (which are in North America and Europe) are probably a factor (certainly not the only one) in deciding on the timing of downtime. My reasoning is that CCP, as a business, most likely would try to inconvenience the smallest percentage of players possible. The current timing of downtime seems to fit that reasoning.
If you interpret any of that as me demanding that the rest of the world should try to please us just because we're Americans, that's not my fault, nor my problem.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2010.02.12 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Felann I gave you numbers and facts directly from CCP illustrating that we represent by far the largest percentage of the EVE playerbase. I said that the time zones of the majority of players (which are in North America and Europe) are probably a factor (certainly not the only one) in deciding on the timing of downtime. My reasoning is that CCP, as a business, most likely would try to inconvenience the smallest percentage of players possible. The current timing of downtime seems to fit that reasoning.
To be fair, you should not be using the current player distribution but the distribution at the time when downtime was first set at 1100 GMT. I don't know how the distribution was when that decision was made, or even if EVE had any players at all, but the current numbers won't have had a lot to do with a decision made years ago. The other argument, concerning the working hours of devs, is as valid now as it was back then as the working hours haven't changed since then.
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PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar yo i'm posting
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Posted - 2010.02.12 02:04:00 -
[87]
~america controls your game and your world~
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Tellenta
Gallente Invicta. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.02.12 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: ZombieFX I know, i dont live in an exotic timezone or something. (germany is just gmt+1 UTC+1)
And i wonder why dont u make the downtime on something like 5-7 oŚclock at the morning?
The time - when pretty sure not that much ppl will be online (and sleep).
I cant ger rid of the feeling, i cant start any big operation, couse i know the downtime is coming soon.
Like a countdown - that just keeps teasing you! "nanana - u have to go offline :p"
Do you really want CCP working on the servers before they get over their morning hangover, and haven't had their morning coffee/tea?
I know I don't.
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Black Leather
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Posted - 2010.02.12 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Kyra Felann I gave you numbers and facts directly from CCP illustrating that we represent by far the largest percentage of the EVE playerbase. I said that the time zones of the majority of players (which are in North America and Europe) are probably a factor (certainly not the only one) in deciding on the timing of downtime. My reasoning is that CCP, as a business, most likely would try to inconvenience the smallest percentage of players possible. The current timing of downtime seems to fit that reasoning.
To be fair, you should not be using the current player distribution but the distribution at the time when downtime was first set at 1100 GMT. I don't know how the distribution was when that decision was made, or even if EVE had any players at all, but the current numbers won't have had a lot to do with a decision made years ago. The other argument, concerning the working hours of devs, is as valid now as it was back then as the working hours haven't changed since then.
Totally unacceptable!!
I should report you for posting rational common sense statements. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Look me up in game for your spanking
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Virgil Travis
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.12 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Black Leather
Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Kyra Felann I gave you numbers and facts directly from CCP illustrating that we represent by far the largest percentage of the EVE playerbase. I said that the time zones of the majority of players (which are in North America and Europe) are probably a factor (certainly not the only one) in deciding on the timing of downtime. My reasoning is that CCP, as a business, most likely would try to inconvenience the smallest percentage of players possible. The current timing of downtime seems to fit that reasoning.
To be fair, you should not be using the current player distribution but the distribution at the time when downtime was first set at 1100 GMT. I don't know how the distribution was when that decision was made, or even if EVE had any players at all, but the current numbers won't have had a lot to do with a decision made years ago. The other argument, concerning the working hours of devs, is as valid now as it was back then as the working hours haven't changed since then.
Totally unacceptable!!
I should report you for posting rational common sense statements. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Look me up in game for your spanking
Now if only I'd know making sense would lead to such rewards when I was younger
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