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NuklearWinter
GeoCorp. Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.02.16 06:07:00 -
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So been wanting to get a tablet for awhile to give digital art a whirl with photoshop (mainly used it for texturing 3d stuff) and I cant for the life of me decide %100 on a bamboo fun medium $200 or a intuos 4 medium for $340 ish. On the one hand I hear the intuos 4 is the goto tablet for artwork, more sensitivity, better etc and I hear mixed things about the bamboo fun. Some say its crap, others say it works just fine, and others say it works just fine and its the artist not the tablet etc.
I dont want to buy one that Im gonna regret later and somewhat leaning the intuos, but im not a professional artist. Id want to use it more for doing something new and actually learn to draw better. Since I want to learn and do it for fun the bamboo seems just fine but I keep flipping between the two every freaking minute it seems.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.02.16 06:11:00 -
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Save more money and buy the cintiq. If you're serious about digital art, you're going to want one anyway, and it will save you the trouble of trying to ebay the old one in the near future. -----------
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.02.16 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Save more money and buy the cintiq. If you're serious about digital art, you're going to want one anyway, and it will save you the trouble of trying to ebay the old one in the near future.
I've been seriously considering that one but the $2000 price tag has kept me from getting it as I'm a mediocre artist at best and would totally waste it's potential.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.16 07:33:00 -
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I started with an Intous 3 and now have an Intous 4. If you can afford it, definitely buy the Intous over the Bamboo. I've used the Bamboo as well, and while you may grow out of the Bamboo, you'll probably never outgrow the Intous 4.
As for 'save your money and buy a Cintique', that's just ridiculous. While they *are* the best of the best, the Cintique is just overkill if you're just starting out. The Intous 4 will be great for doing 99% of what you want to do. Professionals use them all the time.
If you have the money to blow on a Cintique, sure, go ahead. They're awesome. But as for best performance for the money, the Intous 4 is where it's at. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.02.16 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus As for 'save your money and buy a Cintique', that's just ridiculous. While they *are* the best of the best, the Cintique is just overkill if you're just starting out. The Intous 4 will be great for doing 99% of what you want to do. Professionals use them all the time.
I'd say this is true if you're looking for a cheap tablet, but if you're willing to spend several hundred dollars on a high-end one, you might as well just go all the way and get the best. Sure, you might be "just starting out" now, but do you really want to find out six months from now that you want the cintiq and find yourself stuck with a $350 tablet that you are never going to use again?
Now, I sadly don't have the money to buy one myself, but the artist friends I've talked to say that they're a massive step up from traditional tablets. It's just an upgrade on a completely different level than just buying a bigger tablet or one with more pressure levels or whatever, so it's not like some cases where you're spending 5x the money for the "professional" version that is 10% better than the mid-range one. -----------
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.16 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Bellum Eternus As for 'save your money and buy a Cintique', that's just ridiculous. While they *are* the best of the best, the Cintique is just overkill if you're just starting out. The Intous 4 will be great for doing 99% of what you want to do. Professionals use them all the time.
I'd say this is true if you're looking for a cheap tablet, but if you're willing to spend several hundred dollars on a high-end one, you might as well just go all the way and get the best. Sure, you might be "just starting out" now, but do you really want to find out six months from now that you want the cintiq and find yourself stuck with a $350 tablet that you are never going to use again?
Now, I sadly don't have the money to buy one myself, but the artist friends I've talked to say that they're a massive step up from traditional tablets. It's just an upgrade on a completely different level than just buying a bigger tablet or one with more pressure levels or whatever, so it's not like some cases where you're spending 5x the money for the "professional" version that is 10% better than the mid-range one.
I'd hardly call the one of the best if not the best tablets in the industry 'cheap'. And the price difference between $400 and a couple grand is a BIG difference. And the Cintique and the Intuos are two totally different animals. An artist will always have use for a tablet, even if he/she owns a Cintique. The tablet is super portable, the Cintique is not.
When I don't want to take the time and effort to set up my Cintique for some quick little sketch or when I want to take my art on the road and use my laptop, I take my tablet. Buying a tablet isn't a waste of money, even if someone does eventually purchase a Cintique.
Yes, the Cintique *is* a massive step up, both in price and performance. But for someone just starting out, that's a huge chunk of change for something that they may not even end up using all that much. How can a beginner tell just 'how serious' they are about doing a lot of digital art?
I agree with all your points that the Cintique is 'on a completely different level' than the Intous 4, but the Intous 4 isn't just obsoleted outright by the Cintique. And any skill gained by using the Intous will transfer to the Cintique. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.02.16 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus I'd hardly call the one of the best if not the best tablets in the industry 'cheap'.
That's exactly my point, he's NOT looking for a cheap tablet.
Quote: When I don't want to take the time and effort to set up my Cintique for some quick little sketch or when I want to take my art on the road and use my laptop, I take my tablet. Buying a tablet isn't a waste of money, even if someone does eventually purchase a Cintique.
*shrugs*
Personal preference I guess. If I had the cintiq, I'd probably never suffer through using a normal tablet again. And if I'm really concerned about portability, there's a smaller (and cheaper) version of the cintiq available.
Quote: Yes, the Cintique *is* a massive step up, both in price and performance. But for someone just starting out, that's a huge chunk of change for something that they may not even end up using all that much. How can a beginner tell just 'how serious' they are about doing a lot of digital art?
Normally this would be true, but the OP is already considering investing several hundred dollars in a high-end tablet. I think it's a safe bet that he's more than just a beginner who is likely to spend 15 minutes with his new toy and then put it up on ebay.
And if the OP is truly a beginner, then my advice is to forget the high-end stuff (of either kind) and get something cheap, preferably used to get the price even lower. There's no sense in investing in high-end professional stuff before you even know if you're really interested in the subject. -----------
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.02.16 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Nova Fox on 16/02/2010 09:25:18 Cintique 12 is only a grand
Cintique is probably the best BANG for the buck.
I mean im an amature and take a look at my artwork
http://novafox.deviantart.com/
aside form that if you are not heavy into art let alone digital art dont bother start off with a bamboo.
I for one couldnt handel the feeling of control between what i draw down and what happens on the screen which is why i got my cinitque when it was 4,000$ back in the day.
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Wuff Wuff
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.16 12:10:00 -
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I bought an A5 Intuos 2 getting on for 10 years ago. I don't use it all that much but for the times that I do its invaluable. It cost me ú320 at the time ($512) which was a lot more than the equivalent Bamboo. Never once have I regretted spending the extra money on the Intuos. What's more, it still works as brilliantly today as the day I first bought it.
- Wuffles
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar Rainbow Road
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Posted - 2010.02.16 17:04:00 -
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computer artists, for when you can't draw for ****.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers
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Posted - 2010.02.16 17:08:00 -
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The Cintiq stuff is pretty ballin', I've used them from time to time to do my work and we have access to them from other studios when we work out with them, bloody amazing, but for some quick light up practice, my Intuous is pretty damn great too, A4 size, loving it.
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar Rainbow Road
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Posted - 2010.02.16 17:11:00 -
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Intuos.
if you can't draw at least spell the name of your draw-bot correctly.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers
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Posted - 2010.02.16 17:26:00 -
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Dyslexia ftw. English isn't my first language either.
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar Rainbow Road
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Posted - 2010.02.16 17:34:00 -
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imma just trollin', but really, that's not dyslexia and intuos isn't an english word
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers
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Posted - 2010.02.16 17:37:00 -
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It partly is, because I can't spell jack ****. Isn't that how words are laid out though, 'uou'? 'ou'(this one I think) 'uo'?
**** I have no idea.
Anyways OP, I'd reccomend the Intous if you can't fork out for a Cintiq, but if you can, go straight for a Cintiq.
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