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olzi
Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.02.18 10:34:00 -
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From the R&D labs of PERVS - Tanking FW hisec navy with 10 noobalts:
Required ship and fit:
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[Maller, dodimaller] Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I
Medium Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Medium Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Medium F-4a Ld-Sulfate I Capacitor Charge Unit
Small Murky Shield Screen Transmitter I
Total training time ~2d.
1. Take aggro from FW navy with the shield transporter. 2. Using the capacitor boosters, warp yourself to a deepsafe 3. Once in deepsafe, select a station from the system and hit 'Dock' 4. Alt-tab away and let the client automaticly keep warping towards the station, with FW navy chasing it.
Because of the crippled capacitor, travelling 1 AU takes about 1 minute. So 120 AU from station = 2 hours of tanking navy. 600 AU = 10 hours.
Tested extensively in 0.5 Villore and 0.9 Dodixie.
So yeah, autopilot maller > FW navy.
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Hra Neuvosto
The Aduro Protocol HellFleet
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Posted - 2010.02.18 10:53:00 -
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o\
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Steve Celeste
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.02.18 11:07:00 -
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Finally!
Thx PERVS
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Tosi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.02.18 11:10:00 -
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and it's even better when you use enemy militia alts ;P
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0oO0oOoOo0o
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Posted - 2010.02.18 11:17:00 -
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Sounds like a bannable game weakness abuse tbh.
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Kassasis Dakkstromri
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.18 11:39:00 -
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Yeah mate - something similar was done by Gallente FW guys back when FW first started - they were murdering State Protectorate guys between Nour. and Motsu and sometimes even in Jita... took a few weeks but CCP declared it an exploit.
Sadly, and as much as I like you guys, have to call this one as it is --- flat out exploit
Need to change tactics mate, before CCP sends you warning mails in your inboxes.
Keep up the good fight o7
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.02.18 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kassasis Dakkstromri Sadly, and as much as I like you guys, have to call this one as it is --- flat out exploit
As much as I would love to believe that, I sincerely doubt it will be deemed an exploit .. as long as you are not using a 'neutral' everything is apparently fair as far as CCP is concerned.
NPCs are there as a back-drop only (this was reply from a petition). Eve is the first game ever to include NPCs and then make it possible to circumvent/ignore them completely without detrimental side-effects .. see the same in the standings/aggro bugs in plexes and any other NPC interaction in FW for that matter.
Sad state of affairs if you ask me. CCP are actively encouraging grinding and alt-use .. the accounting/marketing department is running the show now it seems.
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knifee
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2010.02.18 12:07:00 -
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Assuming that the the hints at using neutral alts isn't just another troll to get ppl crying...
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2262&tid=1
Quote: Exploit notification reported by GM Grimmi | 2008.07.17 16:31:28 Using neutral characters to tank Faction Navy NPCs to stop them from attacking players involved in Factional Warfare with that faction is considered an exploit. Action will be taken against users found engaging in this activity.
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Kassasis Dakkstromri
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.18 12:08:00 -
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Um what part of 'already deemed an exploit' didn't do it for you?
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Tosi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.02.18 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: Tosi on 18/02/2010 12:19:48 actually there is no exploit involved, everything has been asked from ccp. that was exploit before navy aggressed to neutral remoreps and such!
exploit notification reported by GM Grimmi | 2008.07.17 16:31:28 Using neutral characters to tank Faction Navy NPCs to stop them from attacking players involved in Factional Warfare with that faction is considered an exploit. Action will be taken against users found engaging in this activity.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.02.18 12:37:00 -
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If you use caldari militia alts for tanking gallente npc it can not be an exploit.
It is even easier because you do not have to take agro with repairer. I doubt no one manages to probe and kill those anyway. You can not kill those either when they are going to target system.
Only reason for using neutral is that they are not so scary in local.
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Kassasis Dakkstromri
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.18 13:42:00 -
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I'll cautiously say I might be wrong - but from my memory when the first exploit was done - it wasn't done with a nuetral alt, that was a later adaptation...
But regardless, if you cleared it with CCP then kudos, but I have my reservations given past experience.
Good luck with it.
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Aurora Nyx
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.02.18 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kassasis Dakkstromri Yeah mate - something similar was done by Gallente FW guys back when FW first started - they were murdering State Protectorate guys between Nour. and Motsu and sometimes even in Jita... took a few weeks but CCP declared it an exploit.
Sadly, and as much as I like you guys, have to call this one as it is --- flat out exploit
Need to change tactics mate, before CCP sends you warning mails in your inboxes.
Keep up the good fight o7
I think you have been away too long. This is used by all sides, and was declared as a non-exploit a looong time ago if it was using FW characters. All the PERVS have done here is post an easier way of doing it afk, presumably to encourage some of our militia to do some non-blobbing activities. Thanks for the work guys, but please don't tell them how you really tank the Navy
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.02.18 14:40:00 -
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MINUS KARMA!!!!!!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Ralnik
Mutineers
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Posted - 2010.02.18 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tosi Edited by: Tosi on 18/02/2010 12:19:48 actually there is no exploit involved, everything has been asked from ccp. that was exploit before navy aggressed to neutral remoreps and such!
exploit notification reported by GM Grimmi | 2008.07.17 16:31:28 Using neutral characters to tank Faction Navy NPCs to stop them from attacking players involved in Factional Warfare with that faction is considered an exploit. Action will be taken against users found engaging in this activity.
Interesting, so I can petition for exploit, the war target neutral alt's I see taking aggro in their FW missions? .....
FactionWarfare.com New forum dedicated to all four FW factions. |
EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris B A N E
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Posted - 2010.02.18 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: EVIL SYNNs on 18/02/2010 16:54:31 old news, 2008 we were using this. It ain't an exploit its USING the game mechanics. As long as its a FW alt tanking, I see no problem.
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Aurora Nyx
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.02.18 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ralnik
Originally by: Tosi Edited by: Tosi on 18/02/2010 12:19:48 actually there is no exploit involved, everything has been asked from ccp. that was exploit before navy aggressed to neutral remoreps and such!
exploit notification reported by GM Grimmi | 2008.07.17 16:31:28 Using neutral characters to tank Faction Navy NPCs to stop them from attacking players involved in Factional Warfare with that faction is considered an exploit. Action will be taken against users found engaging in this activity.
Interesting, so I can petition for exploit, the war target neutral alt's I see taking aggro in their FW missions?
? This thread is about high-sec Navy NPC's. Missions don't have high-sec Navy in them. There is no exploit.
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Ralnik
Mutineers
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Posted - 2010.02.18 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Aurora Nyx
Originally by: Ralnik
Originally by: Tosi Edited by: Tosi on 18/02/2010 12:19:48 actually there is no exploit involved, everything has been asked from ccp. that was exploit before navy aggressed to neutral remoreps and such!
exploit notification reported by GM Grimmi | 2008.07.17 16:31:28 Using neutral characters to tank Faction Navy NPCs to stop them from attacking players involved in Factional Warfare with that faction is considered an exploit. Action will be taken against users found engaging in this activity.
Interesting, so I can petition for exploit, the war target neutral alt's I see taking aggro in their FW missions?
? This thread is about high-sec Navy NPC's. Missions don't have high-sec Navy in them. There is no exploit.
It doesn't matter what this thread is about, it matters only what CCP considers is an exploit or not. .....
FactionWarfare.com New forum dedicated to all four FW factions. |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.18 17:46:00 -
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Very nice. Turned a weakness (recharge rates of shield power relays) into a strength.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2010.02.18 17:51:00 -
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Exploit my arse.
If it is fine to tank the navy afk in an Interceptor burning away from there "static" spawn points, how is it any different? Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator |
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Tosi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.02.18 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain Exploit my arse.
If it is fine to tank the navy afk in an Interceptor burning away from there "static" spawn points, how is it any different?
unlucky hit from rat and you're gone :> and you need like 10041x times more sp to fly ceptor than maller ;P
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Kijo Rikki
Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees
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Posted - 2010.02.18 19:12:00 -
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So long as were posting this up can I ask if its prudent or possible to scan these afk mallers down and destroy them? > WHILE SIG<AWESOME DO LOOP there is no escape from my crappy sig. |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.18 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kijo Rikki So long as were posting this up can I ask if its prudent or possible to scan these afk mallers down and destroy them?
600 AU safespot... good luck!
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