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FOSX1
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Posted - 2010.02.24 11:33:00 -
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hell it's about time
after so many years of w8ing finnaly miners get some love
put more mining toys in the bag ccp
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.02.24 12:17:00 -
[452]
Originally by: Sarina Berghil Can't wait to mine the hell out of thousands of w-planets with little opposition and ruining the prices. ;)
Just cause you _can_ colonize w-space planets doesn't mean you'll be able to ruin empire markets. CCP can easily introduce factors that make this difficult, amongst them high volume for the products/raw materials and the special star system effects killing off all your people.
Originally by: Sarina Berghil I assume CCP will put in limiting effects somehow, but I can't help to be bit skeptical about how it will interact with the market. I imagine it will result in a lot of worthless materials and a few that are useful. The useful ones owned by very few parties and the rest of Eve shrugging and playing with old features.
Yes, exactly like how no one does any ratting/plexing in 0.0 cause the moongoo is owned by large alliances?
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Sarina Berghil
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Posted - 2010.02.24 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Sarina Berghil Can't wait to mine the hell out of thousands of w-planets with little opposition and ruining the prices. ;)
Just cause you _can_ colonize w-space planets doesn't mean you'll be able to ruin empire markets. CCP can easily introduce factors that make this difficult, amongst them high volume for the products/raw materials and the special star system effects killing off all your people.
Originally by: Sarina Berghil I assume CCP will put in limiting effects somehow, but I can't help to be bit skeptical about how it will interact with the market. I imagine it will result in a lot of worthless materials and a few that are useful. The useful ones owned by very few parties and the rest of Eve shrugging and playing with old features.
Yes, exactly like how no one does any ratting/plexing in 0.0 cause the moongoo is owned by large alliances?
Size of materials was one area where I could imagine limitations. But seeing the CCP history of creating new markets recently, I'd say the implementation will probably lack limitations, and result in mostly prices close to 0 ISK. Oh and I would love to be proven wrong.
How is a market related product like moongoo related to a largely fixed income of plexing through bounties? It's not like the production of moon materials reduce or increase bounties in any significant way.
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Waylan Yutani
Gallente Order of the Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.02.24 15:25:00 -
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weee, planet mining - think i should cancle my sub untill something really usefull comes out, or stuff thats broke gets fixed :-(
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.24 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Waylan Yutani weee, planet mining - think i should cancle my sub untill something really usefull comes out, or stuff thats broke gets fixed :-(
This. Farmville in space isn't interesting. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Tier 5 Battleships
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Kile Kitmoore
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Posted - 2010.02.24 18:09:00 -
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Sorry if this has already been posted.
EVE Evolved: What could planetary interaction be like?
Interesting read.
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Otin Bison
Gallente Bison Industrial Inc
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Posted - 2010.02.24 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: De Guantanamo
Originally by: Otin Bison some pubbie tears
Your post goes to show how ******ed high sec pubbies really are.
What part of all planets do you not understand? What part of day old noobs being able to take part do you not understand?
Expansion geared toward <10% of eve? How stupid are you? This is something ANYONE can engage in. And from what I can tell, most 0.0 dwellers are pretty ticked about this expansion because it is adding more content. While I agree the lag and sov bugs need fixes, more content to help make Eve even more diverse is always a good thing
High sec POSs are half-baked cause they dont let you mine moons? You realize what that would mean right? Over abundance of materials -> prices drop -> there goes your dream money. Plenty of small corps/alliance can grab the non-super high end moons in low sec, react, and make some decent money.
Stop being a jealous little pubbie. God forbid you leave your Concord bubble and risk something for better gains.
First and most important, "u mad?" - obviously you are.
Second, you start with insults rather than discussion so, most of what you say falls on deaf ears.
Third. As to specific points.
- ALL planets was not realized fully untill after my original post. So, yes I do understand "all planets" but i doubt day-old n00bs will have the resources to take advantage of planetary mining. So you get half-credit.
- <10% of Eve. No, not stupid at all and, according to many, quite bright. But seriously, as you pointed out (rudely) this will be available to ALL players however you don't seem to take into account that with the current information we have (speculation follows) the price tag for getting into planetary mining may be out of reach of your "day old n00bs."
- HiSec POSs half-baked. Perhaps a poor choice of wording in my original post but, too late to take that back now. Correct, they can not moon-mine and further, so what if they could. Trash moons would be the only ones available to small indi-corps as any moon of value would be taken over by the mega-alliances. Which I actually see as a good thing as there would then be a few hundred RR battleships from alliance X attacking alliance Y's moon (creating mega-lag IN EMPIRE ?) sharing the lag with Empire folk. Obviously you, Sir, have never moon-mined or ran the numbers as all but the higher Rxx moons can barely pay for their own POS fuel.
- Jealous. Not hardly. I spent my time in 0.0 and had a great time, RL has positioned me in Empire due to many factors that I am not compelled to explain to you. Suffice it to say that I am currently an Empire dweller by a combination of circumstance and choice so any improvements to Empire content suits me just fine.
In Closing. You make some valid points however, due to your anger issues, they tend to get lost. Good discussion, keep it going.
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SomeHardLovin
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.02.24 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: SomeHardLovin on 24/02/2010 20:38:06 I think this is a sneaky way of having customers build maps for Dust 514.
You 'build' your planets infrastructure with a pre-set box of required tools.. power plant.. check.. infrastructure hub.. check.. mining drone bay.. check.. defensive towers.. check. Lay it out how you like.. oooh now isn't that shiny?
Then a background app converts the layout into an ingame map for 1st person shooters complete with ready made targets ("Destroy the main power plant for victory!") and uploads it to the Dust 514 servers for you to log into on your xbox360 and fight it out with a bunch of 12 yr olds.
Cool because you can actually play on a map made within EVE on the xbox.. Sneaky because its 100% player made content run through a map building engine.
Confound you CCP!! lol
PS) Fix Rockets. ---
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Koal
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Posted - 2010.02.24 21:12:00 -
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A lot of speculation from everyone but no real details yet.
This is great, I am excited for this. I think a lot of my friends will renew thier subs over this. They quit because it was boring to them to just fly around in space....with all those planets constantly teasing them. It's been long overdue to get something like this developed and with STO out, albeit getting crappy ratings, I think CCP realizes they need to add more than just ship action.
So stoked about this.
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Aidan Patrick
Zero Point Group
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Posted - 2010.02.25 03:21:00 -
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I'm very excited to see this is announced, and even more excited that it's coming pre-DUST.
Now I am a very avid reader of the Dev Blogs, and would like to see the watch-list expanded with the new system.
First, please fix the recurring bug where people don't display online properly. ;)
Second, on the watch list, give us personal watch lists as intended, then, for anyone who has the communications officer role allow them to modify a CORPORATE watch list, that is shared to all members of the corp that have some certain role that you can add/pick that is appropriate. (Prevents spies from having the full watch list)
With that one or more members in charge of intel gathering can be in charge of modifying the list, meaning less busy work for corpies, and more hunting and killing. :) - Aidan Patrick |
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.02.25 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: SomeHardLovin You 'build' your planets infrastructure with a pre-set box of required tools.. power plant.. check.. infrastructure hub.. check.. mining drone bay.. check.. defensive towers.. check. Lay it out how you like.. oooh now isn't that shiny?
You're not going to be building infrastructure like SimCity or such. Planetary Interaction will be more like tending a garden by setting policies and directions of development, a macro view rather than city planner kind of thing.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.02.25 04:41:00 -
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well we dont know for sure yet. CCP wont give us info until 4 weeks beforehandwhen pre realise bug testing begins on sisi which would put it about June Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |
Berzerkergang
Caldari Bendebeukers Green Rhino
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Posted - 2010.02.25 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: HeliosGal well we dont know for sure yet. CCP wont give us info until 4 weeks beforehandwhen pre realise bug testing begins on sisi which would put it about June
Dude please, there are so many ways to find more PVE oriented stuff and you can even find PVE events by downscanning sites, like LADAR sites etc. More missioning will just make missioning a bit more exciting. Most missions are: Warp to here, blow stuff up, collect stuff if needed, salvage and loot to your liking and gtfo, collect your reward. I think there should be an event in EVE that will surprise all players. Not just a tournament, but an invasion or something in that manner at a certain time a day to get some action. I would love some surprises in that manner tbh.
But again, its great to see a bit more for indy's. "He who knows he knows nothing, is a wise man..." -- Socrates
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Patri Andari
Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.02.25 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: SomeHardLovin Edited by: SomeHardLovin on 24/02/2010 20:38:06 I think this is a sneaky way of having customers build maps for Dust 514.
You 'build' your planets infrastructure with a pre-set box of required tools.. power plant.. check.. infrastructure hub.. check.. mining drone bay.. check.. defensive towers.. check. Lay it out how you like.. oooh now isn't that shiny?
Then a background app converts the layout into an ingame map for 1st person shooters complete with ready made targets ("Destroy the main power plant for victory!") and uploads it to the Dust 514 servers for you to log into on your xbox360 and fight it out with a bunch of 12 yr olds.
Cool because you can actually play on a map made within EVE on the xbox.. Sneaky because its 100% player made content run through a map building engine.
Confound you CCP!! lol
PS) Fix Rockets.
Spot on
These are my thoughts exactly and it makes good sense. This also explains the minimal barrier to entry and the lack of any way to contest infrastructure in game at release. They want us building up planets to create maps for Dust.
To make this happen they are going to have to make it worth while isk wise and with limited investment.
I am betting nearly 100% of all planets and districts will be colonized before Dust hits.
Pure speculation of course.
Patri
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Elayae
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Posted - 2010.02.25 11:34:00 -
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Great finally we can really build something of epic proportions. :)
Looking at all the things I have seen so far my best guess for new elements in the expansion Tyrannis would be:
+ Building formulas with constraints such as population, time, growth, maintenance and pollution. + Production of new and old NPC trade and consumer goods to keep people happy and let them work in factories and installations. E.g. wheat, fruit, livestock, water, oxygen, wine, beer, liquors, medicine, holoreels, consumer electronics, construction blocks, coolant, ectoplasm, fertilizer, garbage, small arms, electronic parts, manufacturing tools, mechanical parts, miniature electronics, polytextiles, robotics, oil, conductors, transmitters and research tools. + Installations such as farms, factories, mines and laboratories. + Production of ore and ice to a lesser degree based on location and abundance. + Delivery system of goods within solar system or constellation. + Political elements to make treaties, agreements and more.
The current market will not change that much, my guess is that they will only add a new and/or revive the currently partially unused market.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Primary.
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Posted - 2010.02.25 11:35:00 -
[466]
What happened to the treaties mentioned when the last expansion came out, those were good ideas I thought.
Could we hear more about them?
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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Lukas Ignateus
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Posted - 2010.02.25 12:47:00 -
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Awww! Planets??? What an anti-climatic expansion. Why not start working on making the Jove Empire playable? I dont care if you need to nerf their ships to balance them, i just want to fly them! They are bloody awesome looking ships!
Is there anyone else here who agrees with me? :)
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.02.25 13:47:00 -
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Quote: Originally by: Waylan Yutani weee, planet mining - think i should cancle my sub untill something really usefull comes out, or stuff thats broke gets fixed :-(
Quote: This. Farmville in space isn't interesting.
bye. Have you left yet?
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Vanden
Duty. Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.02.25 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Waylan Yutani weee, planet mining - think i should cancle my sub untill something really usefull comes out, or stuff thats broke gets fixed :-(
Not interested in "Building better worlds" then?
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Payne Valitea
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Posted - 2010.02.25 15:11:00 -
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My only question/concern will be that those that don't go into low or 0.0 sec or belong to huge corp will get a chance for planetary fun.
I am in a small corp who atm mainly will be high sec will we be able to enjoy this too ?
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General Esylium
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Posted - 2010.02.26 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Photon Ceray CCP, this is awesome! BUUUUT!
I strongly, very strongly suggest that you include an iteration of INCARNA in this expansion!
Because in all honesty, managing a part of our planet from a station or a ship in space or dock, will make this whole content seem like just another windowed feature that we will not connect to! it will be just like queuing jobs for manufacturing.
Let us have full body avatars, we only to our office in a high skysc****r or tower, it doesn't have to be with all the customization that will be in real INCARNA,2-3 Tuxedos, a desk with some neocom, a 3d map/representation of our area, maybe keypoints in it, just small features are enough, but let us feel it. That will be epic and worthy!
this
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Comm Den
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Posted - 2010.02.26 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hienz Doofenshmirtz no it's for every single planet in eve. and why would we need new transports? whats wrong with the old ones?
y not add troop transport ships? u gona transport them in ur badger or mark 5? or even the cov ops versions?
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Ioiji Ka'Thra
Red Rose Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.02.26 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ioiji Ka''Thra on 26/02/2010 16:18:00 Well. There will be the warbarge which in fact is a trooptransporter and the HQ for Dust-Corps. Beside that: It's pretty funny how ppl start the fighting over something that has not at all been revealed but just mentioned. Of course CCP is reliable when it comes to their announcements but still. Don't you people got something better to do than start fighting over it? Hobbys maybe? Foot painting? Anything? ;)
But who I totally can't understand are the PvPers and Pirates. First of: More goods being transported => more gain from gate pew pew. Second: From a game designers PoV => Planets in 0.0 should have a higher gain. More pain... more gain, you know? I think this expansion might even bring a boost to PvP. Some ultra rare planet-types might be hidden deep in 0.0-space. That in fact whould lead to even more fighting over special locations. And tbh. That's what you want, right? ;)
My personal feelings for Tyrannis are: Might be a blast - or might get blasted. It's up to CCP.
- Io
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Solo Gray
Caledonian Enterprises Quantum Conglomerate
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Posted - 2010.02.26 20:52:00 -
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Ok CCP, it has been a few days. We are in need of a few more snippets of Tyrannis data to argue over. Tell us what can be mined from the planets for instance.
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Alpha Wolfgang
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.02.26 22:31:00 -
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WOW! a lot of you people are so selfish and pessimistic!
ok, EVE isnt just about PEW PEW, its a universe and adding planet interaction is the next step in the evolution of the EVE universe. i think this expansion is an amazing step. yeah it might cause a few minor problems at first but isnt that the point? to add new content to make a simulated universe and sort out what works and what doesnt?
you all need to chill out a bit and just accept that we will have more things to do than mine and pew pew. soon we will be escorting battle arks to planets so the infantry can capture planets and add a new level of gameplay to eve. i have an xbox and i love fps games and eve and i cant wait at all to play dust and walk in stations on eve.
you will still have your fleet blobs and everything eve already has, but some of us players who play eve for more than just little battles will love the new content, i cant wait to actually be a part of the eve universe and not just another ship flying around. some day be a governor of a new state or something, a type of sim city in eve would be amazing! maybe even a fleet of my own NPC ships that i can customize and control.
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Erathsmus
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Posted - 2010.02.27 07:04:00 -
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SAVE THE BLACK OPS!
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2010.02.27 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 27/02/2010 17:02:36 CCP i think it is time for a little more details.
We dont want you to :
* Destroy EVE economy * Make big alliances richer while logged off. ( moon mining 2.0 ) * Army of billioner's alts occupying planets 2 days after release( with no combat feature ) preventing anyone of enjoying new expansion.
Now new Dev Blog.
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Galega Ori
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Posted - 2010.02.27 17:20:00 -
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Now if this has already been asked in a previous post owell. I'm not interested in reading all 16 pages to find out.
Anyway, I want to know if this feature will be something players can enjoy in WH space or is it going to be one more thing you cant do ther like moon mining or ice harvesting?
(If not responded to, please answer in next dev blog. Thanks)
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Kanatta Jing
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Posted - 2010.02.27 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Kanatta Jing on 27/02/2010 22:22:35
Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
* Army of billioner's alts occupying planets 2 days after release( with no combat feature ) preventing anyone of enjoying new expansion.
Actually you just gave me an idea. So theres like 50 thousand planets right? And 300 thousand subscriptions adding up to a potential 900 thousand Toons. So that's a 18:1 Toon:Planet ratio.
Remember that it's okay for a billionaire to take over every planet but only if he has to significantly increase the number of subscriptions to EVE.
But you also want room for subscription growth.
From the District size on the above picture 20 districts to a planet isn't far out of line.
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Patri Andari
Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.02.27 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Galega Ori Now if this has already been asked in a previous post owell. I'm not interested in reading all 16 pages to find out.
Anyway, I want to know if this feature will be something players can enjoy in WH space or is it going to be one more thing you cant do ther like moon mining or ice harvesting?
(If not responded to, please answer in next dev blog. Thanks)
They said all planets.
Originally by: ûBill Clinton, during his 1998 grand jury testimony on the Monica Lewinsky affair "It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is."
ALL PLANETS is ALL PLANETS!
Patri
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