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Evilus Maximus
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Posted - 2010.02.23 15:08:00 -
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If i plan on taking down a POS if a wardec occurs do i even need a defense system since Concord will protect it?
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Icanti
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Posted - 2010.02.23 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Icanti on 23/02/2010 15:19:06 No, you don't.
However having a defence ready to go may reduce the chance of getting wardecced.
Edit- However you will need to make sure you login each and everyday to check if someone has wardecced you or not. If your working alone that could be an issue. Or perhaps not.
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Don Pellegrino
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.02.23 15:22:00 -
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I would personally install a full defensive setup anyway, just keep it offline. It should be enough to avoid 95% of the wardecs, especially if it's a large tower.
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Awesome Possum
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.23 15:38:00 -
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large faction tower in high sec with all faction ecm mods = hate
pretty much don't even need guns. ♥
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Namak Bulu
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.02.23 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Namak Bulu on 23/02/2010 17:33:39 Edited by: Namak Bulu on 23/02/2010 17:33:07 Search is your friend FYI. I just spent several days asking basicly this question.
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Vasundhara
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Posted - 2010.02.23 21:07:00 -
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My advice for empire towers, use the smallest tower that will run what you need and throw on a few guns. Only put up a huge defensive system or do the large tower option if you honestly plan to try to repel an attacking force and have some buddies to help man the guns. Keep in mind that when the wardec comes you have to wait to unanchor everything if you want to get your tower back and that unanchoring takes time. I ran a small tower with research labs for over a year before a corp war-decced me. I _think_ the tower and all the labs took 10 minutes or so each and the defensive structures took a minute each. They ended up canceling the war and they never tried messaging me so they either did it for the moon slot or just for lulz. The small faction tower I used saved me a lot in fuel costs over what it would have cost to fuel a larger tower and since the tower survived it hardly mattered that it was more expensive than the standard tower. If you can't be online every day to check for war-decs you might consider using the standard tower.
P.S. I realize the toon I'm posting as may not be as old as the tower I'm discussing. Doesn't hurt to keep a low profile when you have or plan to have solo maintained assets in space.
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Veliria
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Posted - 2010.02.23 22:51:00 -
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Fit a full defensive setup regardless of the tower or system. You can always put it back up the market for the same price so in the end if you ever take it down again it won't have cost you much. Does help to convince any war-deccers to go to the next moon and gank an easier POS.
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.02.24 03:15:00 -
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Dos Do fit a defensive system. Do use ECM Do use arty/lasers/rails Do expect undefended or poorly defended POSes to be war-declared
Don'ts Don't rely on CONCORD, anyone who wants to remove your POS will war-declare you - in the 24 hours before the war-dec comes into force, they will hide nearby and try to ninja-steal the POS as you unanchor it. Don't use Faction mods on a high-sec POS. Faction mods mean profit to anyone who war declares and takes out your POS - it's easy enough to do. Don't use missiles Don't online all your weaponry unless you get a war-dec or the POS is going to be unattended for more than 24 hours.
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Vasundhara
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Posted - 2010.02.24 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Evilus Maximus If i plan on taking down a POS if a wardec occurs do i even need a defense system since Concord will protect it?
I think a lot of the replies here are ignoring that you specified that you don't intend to fight a wardec. Think of it this way, there are basically three types of aggressors for an empire pos.
1) They want a free moon with minimal effort to put up their own POS and you picked a system with no free moons. In this case, you just need a POS that looks more intimidating than the myriad numbers of offline towers I see camping at moons.
2) Some dude and his buddies at work want to get drunk and take a POS down some evening. The best armed POS won't stand a chance if it doesn't have players on the guns so the defense won't matter in this case, in fact your defense is probably attractive as a challenge. The one exception would be to put up a large tower and pack it with shield hardening arrays so that it would take ages to bring down. Marty and the boys at work don't want to stay up that late, but the same effect can be had cheaply by not giving them an interesting challenge to shoot at in the first place.
3) The big leagues. Either you ****ed off someone real bad who has deep pockets or some bored alliance is steamrolling empire towers. Your defense is irrelevant. The only factor is how long it takes to pack up and ship out and the more stuff anchored the longer it takes.
Regarding tower theft, yes they may try to wait till you begin unanchoring your tower so they can steal it the moment it finishes unanchoring. This risk can be reduced a bit by setting the standings of the war-deccing corp to -10 the moment you see the war-dec. This way you can tell if they are in system with you (it won't show them as war targets till the war starts). Scout around the system your POS is in and add as many of the troublemakers you can to your buddy list so you can tell when they are online. Take everything down but the tower, then wait till none of them have been on for a good period of time and none are in system before taking the tower down. They could still have an out-of-corp guy who you wouldn't notice come in a cloaked ship to steal the tower so if you are inclined you could bring additional people to see if you can suicide gank him before he makes off with it but I personally wouldn't bother taking it this far. As soon as I put a tower down I assume I may never get it back. Getting the expensive labs back is usually what I shoot for.
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.02.25 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vasundhara
Originally by: Evilus Maximus If i plan on taking down a POS if a wardec occurs do i even need a defense system since Concord will protect it?
I think a lot of the replies here are ignoring that you specified that you don't intend to fight a wardec.
Actually most of my comments are aimed at avoiding the war-dec in the first place. Putting on a show and making them think that you're organised, prepared and knowledgeable will avoid 95% of war-decs IMO. Being disorganised, lacking defenses or putting missile batteries that scream "POS Noob" on your POS is inviting war-decs. ______________________ Agony Unleashed Home of the PvP University. |
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