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Ricelord
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Posted - 2010.03.15 00:53:00 -
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Hi,
let's say I suicide gank some miners until they agree to join my corporation. And then, I mean, they're already there and I'm organizing the bunch, I decide to demand a small administration fee from them.
And then I would kind of want to check out if they all work properly, and write down how much everyone mined and how much they owe me.
Is that considered griefing?
Or how about I collect like a hundred noobs and tell them that I need them to work for a month and drop their minerals into my corp hangar so that we can eventually build a station, is that griefing?
And how about a combination of those possibilities?
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Cat o'Ninetails
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.03.15 00:57:00 -
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you will be fine until ol' "spaceships" lincoln comes along lol
x
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Martina Stewart
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Posted - 2010.03.15 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Martina Stewart on 15/03/2010 01:00:59 Doesn't EVE University already do something like that by living off the tax revenue generated by a swarm of clueless new players? If they do it, you should too.
*edits for spelling*
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.15 01:06:00 -
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No, it's internet spaceship slavery. --------------------------- Only those who surrender are lost |
Epicbeardman
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Posted - 2010.03.15 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ricelord Hi,
let's say I suicide gank some miners until they agree to join my corporation
NPC Corp macro-ers in Hulks will not go for this and I doubt you could find any newbies in frigates and cruisers that wouldn't realize it costs you more than them.
I don't see this working.
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Mashie Saldana
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.15 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ricelord Or how about I collect like a hundred noobs and tell them that I need them to work for a month and drop their minerals into my corp hangar so that we can eventually build a station, is that griefing?
That is what alliance leaders do but on a smaller scale.
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Rhaetic
Black Ice Consortium
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Posted - 2010.03.15 01:24:00 -
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Suicide ganking miners until they join your corp? You let me know when you get some takers on that.
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.15 02:15:00 -
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Woah hey, I thought we agreed they went to my corp.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.15 02:45:00 -
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Completely within the rules, as someone stated that's how most alliances work. Thing is that you can simply "tax" them without having them in your corp. What you're trying to do would work better with mission runners.
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Fight Song
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Posted - 2010.03.15 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ricelord Hi,
let's say I suicide gank some miners until they agree to join my corporation. And then, I mean, they're already there and I'm organizing the bunch, I decide to demand a small administration fee from them.
And then I would kind of want to check out if they all work properly, and write down how much everyone mined and how much they owe me.
Is that considered griefing?
Or how about I collect like a hundred noobs and tell them that I need them to work for a month and drop their minerals into my corp hangar so that we can eventually build a station, is that griefing?
And how about a combination of those possibilities?
None of this is griefing. However writing this ******ed idea in GD is griefing, and im going to have to ask you to think before you post.
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.03.15 04:28:00 -
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In EVE, it's only considered "griefing" if you do it for the sole intent and purpose of causing grief. Or in other words, the only reason why you do it is because you like to hurt people.
You are doing this so that you can profit, not so that you can hurt other people. Therefore it is not griefing.
You might be able to argue that Jihadswarm and hulkageddon were both griefing, except for the fact that people are able to profit off of it (which might explain why there was a hulkageddon, instead of a CNRageddon). ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.03.15 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin In EVE, it's only considered "griefing" if you do it for the sole intent and purpose of causing grief. Or in other words, the only reason why you do it is because you like to hurt people.
You are doing this so that you can profit, not so that you can hurt other people. Therefore it is not griefing.
You might be able to argue that Jihadswarm and hulkageddon were both griefing, except for the fact that people are able to profit off of it (which might explain why there was a hulkageddon, instead of a CNRageddon).
In theory it should be possible to profit from a CNRageddon.
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Isilwen Nightfall
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.03.15 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin In EVE, it's only considered "griefing" if you do it for the sole intent and purpose of causing grief.
So, what about people who do PVP for fun?
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Salmeria
Advanced Component Research Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.03.15 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: Salmeria on 15/03/2010 09:27:36 its definitely possible to profit off of ganking some mission runners
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Armoured C
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.03.15 09:34:00 -
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you will find if it is not bots that they will hire a merc corp to kill you if your hitting into there profits
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.03.15 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ricelord Hi,
let's say I suicide gank some miners until they agree to join my corporation. And then, I mean, they're already there and I'm organizing the bunch, I decide to demand a small administration fee from them.
And then I would kind of want to check out if they all work properly, and write down how much everyone mined and how much they owe me.
Is that considered griefing?
Or how about I collect like a hundred noobs and tell them that I need them to work for a month and drop their minerals into my corp hangar so that we can eventually build a station, is that griefing?
And how about a combination of those possibilities?
no youre trolling not griefing.
glad i could clear that up.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.03.15 14:57:00 -
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If you go after a specific individual over and over in an NPC corp who hasnt done anything to you the GMs call it griefing.
You could kill them make your inane threat and be fine. But when they move to another system and you follow them it will be griefing.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Eagle White
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Posted - 2010.03.15 15:37:00 -
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is griefing against the rules? since when?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.03.15 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ricelord Hi,
let's say I suicide gank some miners until they agree to join my corporation. And then, I mean, they're already there and I'm organizing the bunch, I decide to demand a small administration fee from them.
And then I would kind of want to check out if they all work properly, and write down how much everyone mined and how much they owe me.
Is that considered griefing?
Or how about I collect like a hundred noobs and tell them that I need them to work for a month and drop their minerals into my corp hangar so that we can eventually build a station, is that griefing?
And how about a combination of those possibilities?
It is not griefing. It's not very nice, and I dont think it would work, but it's not griefing.
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Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.03.15 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Phosphorus Palladium on 15/03/2010 17:04:34
Originally by: Isilwen Nightfall
Originally by: Taedrin In EVE, it's only considered "griefing" if you do it for the sole intent and purpose of causing grief.
So, what about people who do PVP for fun?
Now, that is so outrageous that it is almost unthinkable!
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2010.03.15 17:17:00 -
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I remember something similar a few years ago. A Corp was forcing members to mine and threatened to suicide gank/war dec anybody who left.
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2010.03.15 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C you will find if it is not bots that they will hire a merc corp to kill you if your hitting into there profits
This.
If the miner(s) have enough isk to be profitable for you then they have enough isk to hire mercs. And if they dont have the isk to hire a merc corp then there's no way it will be profitable for you (probably newbies) so your extortion would rather just make them flee the region and/or quit the game. |
Rexthor Hammerfists
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.15 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ricelord Hi,
let's say I suicide gank some miners until they agree to join my corporation. And then, I mean, they're already there and I'm organizing the bunch, I decide to demand a small administration fee from them.
And then I would kind of want to check out if they all work properly, and write down how much everyone mined and how much they owe me.
Is that considered griefing?
Or how about I collect like a hundred noobs and tell them that I need them to work for a month and drop their minerals into my corp hangar so that we can eventually build a station, is that griefing?
And how about a combination of those possibilities?
For humanities sake i hope you wont find a person miserable enough to be enslaved like that. Also theres no griefing in eve, only being within or outside gm made rules. If in doubt petition, id love to see that reply btw. -
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Ryhss
Caldari 42nd Airborn
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Posted - 2010.03.15 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Epicbeardman
Originally by: Ricelord Hi,
let's say I suicide gank some miners until they agree to join my corporation
NPC Corp macro-ers in Hulks will not go for this and I doubt you could find any newbies in frigates and cruisers that wouldn't realize it costs you more than them.
I don't see this working.
Not what he asked, he asked if it was specifically griefing. I, for one, don't think it is.
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2010.03.15 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: K''uata Sayus on 15/03/2010 20:36:01 Do whatever you want, Licelord, Eve works for sociopath....er, corporate-minded players as well as those of us who don't mind working for what we have in Eve.
TBH, herding any bunch of sniveling cowards would make me physically ill, especially if I had to talk to them for any length of time.
EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM. |
Shura'Sokoris
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Posted - 2010.03.15 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: K'uata Sayus Edited by: K''uata Sayus on 15/03/2010 20:36:01 Do whatever you want, Licelord, Eve works for sociopath....er, corporate-minded players as well as those of us who don't mind working for what we have in Eve.
TBH, herding any bunch of sniveling cowards would make me physically ill, especially if I had to talk to them for any length of time.
^ Exact reason why I'll never be in a RL position to command? Shura? Sergeant? Lolwut.
No, it's not griefing. Griefing is like Christmas Day, when I decided to do my first suiciding, failfitted a thrasher, instapopped a pod, then found out the pilot had a full snake set.
Point is, it's not you being an ******* simply to ruin people's days. Hence, "grief"ing. You're not doing it just to cause others grief, you're doing it for your own personal gain.
As has been said by many before me, this will probably never work. Especially since you posted about it in the general discussion section of EVE's forums. Wouldn't be surprised if you got permabanned just on general principle.
Besides, if a person wanted to have someone tell them where, when, how, and with what ship to play EVE in, they'd join a major 0.0 alliance. CTAs ftw.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.03.16 00:08:00 -
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Yes besides the fact it would require what the GMs call griefing to make it work - anyone and everyone from a Western country would just quit if it came to this.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Sigaar
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Posted - 2010.03.16 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ricelord Hi,
let's say I suicide gank some miners until they agree to join my corporation. And then, I mean, they're already there and I'm organizing the bunch, I decide to demand a small administration fee from them.
And then I would kind of want to check out if they all work properly, and write down how much everyone mined and how much they owe me.
Is that considered griefing?
Or how about I collect like a hundred noobs and tell them that I need them to work for a month and drop their minerals into my corp hangar so that we can eventually build a station, is that griefing?
And how about a combination of those possibilities?
Isnt it what most people are doing? Liek "Join us and give us money or fokin DIE!", "Oke, oke, we are joining, no worries. You can have our food and our women"
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Zaraz Zaraz
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Posted - 2010.03.16 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin In EVE, it's only considered "griefing" if you do it for the sole intent and purpose of causing grief. Or in other words, the only reason why you do it is because you like to hurt people.
People play Eve Online for other reasons?!?!?
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Watyu
Minmatar Dark Nebula Academy O X I D E
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Posted - 2010.03.16 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ricelord Hi,
let's say I suicide gank some miners until they agree to join my corporation. And then, I mean, they're already there and I'm organizing the bunch, I decide to demand a small administration fee from them.
And then I would kind of want to check out if they all work properly, and write down how much everyone mined and how much they owe me.
Is that considered griefing?
Or how about I collect like a hundred noobs and tell them that I need them to work for a month and drop their minerals into my corp hangar so that we can eventually build a station, is that griefing?
And how about a combination of those possibilities?
Eye c wat u did thar
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