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NeoShocker
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.03.15 04:08:00 -
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For those unaware and knows Band of Brothers movie, it is on :O ----------------------------------- Peace through power! |
baltec1
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.15 08:04:00 -
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Its moments like these that make me glad I did go for sky movies
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.03.15 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 Its moments like these that make me glad I did go for sky movies
Meh it'll be out on DVD pretty soon.
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silentalleycat
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Posted - 2010.03.15 08:31:00 -
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so ? how was ? It will be a few months before it is on TV here and i really want to know if it is as good as the old BoB, even if it is half as good i will watch it
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NeoShocker
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.03.15 18:54:00 -
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Its good so far I guess. I find the landing part funny. Expecting gunz to be blazin', but only to see the landing party's fellow mates resting on shore. I guess it ain't like normandy landing. ----------------------------------- Peace through power! |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.15 20:08:00 -
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Different type of warfare in the pacific. Island beaches offered little in the way of defensive terrain so they would concentrate in the natural kill zones further inland with jungle ambushes and mountain strongholds. Normandy on the other hand was pretty much a cliff that ran the entire length of the coast and so made the perfect beach head defence site with installations built right into the cliff faces. Howeveer no static defense can stand up to a high tech(for its time) offensive with a determined attacker willing to take and inflict horrible levels of casualties.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
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MAXSuicide
Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.03.20 02:03:00 -
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the series has started?
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Zyck
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:14:00 -
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Yep, 1st episode has aired so far. Was very good and I'm looking forward to more. Showing the brief naval battle in the night was pretty awesome too.
I'm pretty sure HBO has it streaming on their website if you missed it, but I don't know if that's US only or will work for anyone. Worth taking a look though if you missed it.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.20 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Zyck Yep, 1st episode has aired so far. Was very good and I'm looking forward to more. Showing the brief naval battle in the night was pretty awesome too.
Just as a heads up for those who don't know their ww2 history that was the US fleet getting it's arse handed to it in that scene. The japs had faaaaar superiour night fighting ability at that point in the war. Only when the new radar operated fire control systems came online a bit later did we have a remote chance of winning a stand up fight at night. |
Death4free
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.03.20 13:26:00 -
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Im midly confused. why is everyone waiting for it to come out on dvd/tv when you can just wtach it from Hbo's website (it works in england at least).
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.03.20 13:55:00 -
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watched last weeks episode. Seems good. I don't want to pass judgment yet but it has some ways to go to top band of brothers ---------- Anyway, I'm sorry, but that just happens to be how *I* feel about it. What do you think? |
Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.21 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: HankMurphy watched last weeks episode. Seems good. I don't want to pass judgment yet but it has some ways to go to top band of brothers
I don't think it has anywhere near the caliber actors needed to top BoB. Also most of those doesn't look like marines, it looks like band camp on a jungle trek.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Anti Fundie Patrol
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Posted - 2010.03.21 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: HankMurphy watched last weeks episode. Seems good. I don't want to pass judgment yet but it has some ways to go to top band of brothers
I don't think it has anywhere near the caliber actors needed to top BoB. Also most of those doesn't look like marines, it looks like band camp on a jungle trek.
this is good... please inform us what a marine looks like
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.21 01:18:00 -
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Just saw the first ep, looks ok. --------------------------- Only those who surrender are lost |
SkyLordUK
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2010.03.21 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Death4free Im midly confused. why is everyone waiting for it to come out on dvd/tv when you can just wtach it from Hbo's website (it works in england at least).
im confused as it doesnt work for me and im in england Sky. ---------------------------------------------- Jumping Gates is like a box of sweets
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.21 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: HankMurphy watched last weeks episode. Seems good. I don't want to pass judgment yet but it has some ways to go to top band of brothers
I don't think it has anywhere near the caliber actors needed to top BoB. Also most of those doesn't look like marines, it looks like band camp on a jungle trek.
this is good... please inform us what a marine looks like
I'd assume there would be some muscle involved, these all look like the most they've been pushing are pencils, except for the loudmouth tard.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Howling Jinn
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
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Posted - 2010.03.21 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: HankMurphy watched last weeks episode. Seems good. I don't want to pass judgment yet but it has some ways to go to top band of brothers
I don't think it has anywhere near the caliber actors needed to top BoB. Also most of those doesn't look like marines, it looks like band camp on a jungle trek.
this is good... please inform us what a marine looks like
10 feet tall, 5 eyes and 3 heads, shots fire from 2 of the heads, middle head has 1 eye and shot lazer beamz?=?
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MAXSuicide
Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.03.22 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: SkyLordUK
Originally by: Death4free Im midly confused. why is everyone waiting for it to come out on dvd/tv when you can just wtach it from Hbo's website (it works in england at least).
im confused as it doesnt work for me and im in england
ur not the only one, certainly doesnt work for me; says "not available in ur region"
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Kelly Dataminer
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Posted - 2010.03.22 02:09:00 -
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Noticing the director likes to over do it with explosions that don't send out waves of meat grinding shrapnel. Starting to wonder if the Japanese shells are not made of newspaper. How do you survive a 75mm round landing 5ft from you?
Not really connecting with any of the characters either like in BoB. So far if they all die I'll be...meh.
It's just missing some spark that BoB nailed in the series.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.22 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: HankMurphy watched last weeks episode. Seems good. I don't want to pass judgment yet but it has some ways to go to top band of brothers
I don't think it has anywhere near the caliber actors needed to top BoB. Also most of those doesn't look like marines, it looks like band camp on a jungle trek.
this is good... please inform us what a marine looks like
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Anti Fundie Patrol
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Posted - 2010.03.22 02:44:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 22/03/2010 02:46:17 Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 22/03/2010 02:45:43
Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 21/03/2010 02:37:43
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: HankMurphy watched last weeks episode. Seems good. I don't want to pass judgment yet but it has some ways to go to top band of brothers
I don't think it has anywhere near the caliber actors needed to top BoB. Also most of those doesn't look like marines, it looks like band camp on a jungle trek.
this is good... please inform us what a marine looks like
I'd assume there would be some muscle involved, these all look like the most they've been pushing are pencils, except for the loudmouth tard.
Basically they look like whimps, I'm sure it's intentional for dramatic change effect but still, first impressions and all.
I got out of the USMC 2 years ago (0311, the same as the guys on "Pacific"). I'm 5'10" and weighed 125lbs when I was on active duty (130 now... I'm on my way to becoming a lard ass ). There are big muscly Marines in the infantry but most of the big musclebound marines are POGs because the infantry is always in the field and doesn't have the time to go to the gym.
*Edit: Terminallance.com brings to light all the weird stuff in the Corps http://terminallance.com/?p=176
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Zyck
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.22 02:50:00 -
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Just saw episode 2, awesome ****. Liked it better than 1 and starting to get to know the main characters a bit. The battle was a lot longer and more intense, and more Chesty is never bad. The small close range melee in the jungle was pretty badass and I think I actually lol'd when he smashed the guy in the face with the machine gun.
For the guy saying they don't "look like marines"...they look a good deal more muscular and in shape in this one, especially in the jungle fighting scenes. Most modern soldiers look bigger and thicker because they're wearing a **** ton of gear and armor. Have them all run out in thin pieces of cloth and you probably wouldn't notice a huge difference.
On another note, the brief scene with Chesty Puller mentioning the newspaper, I wonder if that's true or not. Would be pretty cool if it was, so I'm curious if anyone knows.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Anti Fundie Patrol
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Posted - 2010.03.22 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Zyck Just saw episode 2, awesome ****. Liked it better than 1 and starting to get to know the main characters a bit. The battle was a lot longer and more intense, and more Chesty is never bad. The small close range melee in the jungle was pretty badass and I think I actually lol'd when he smashed the guy in the face with the machine gun.
On another note, the brief scene with Chesty Puller mentioning the newspaper, I wonder if that's true or not. Would be pretty cool if it was, so I'm curious if anyone knows.
STFU! It only comes on in an hour here
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Zyck
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.22 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Zyck Just saw episode 2, awesome ****. Liked it better than 1 and starting to get to know the main characters a bit. The battle was a lot longer and more intense, and more Chesty is never bad. The small close range melee in the jungle was pretty badass and I think I actually lol'd when he smashed the guy in the face with the machine gun.
On another note, the brief scene with Chesty Puller mentioning the newspaper, I wonder if that's true or not. Would be pretty cool if it was, so I'm curious if anyone knows.
STFU! It only comes on in an hour here
Lol. I didn't really spoil anything. At least I didn't say who wins!
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Sobach
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.03.22 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Sobach on 22/03/2010 11:30:25
Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 21/03/2010 02:37:43
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: HankMurphy watched last weeks episode. Seems good. I don't want to pass judgment yet but it has some ways to go to top band of brothers
I don't think it has anywhere near the caliber actors needed to top BoB. Also most of those doesn't look like marines, it looks like band camp on a jungle trek.
this is good... please inform us what a marine looks like
I'd assume there would be some muscle involved, these all look like the most they've been pushing are pencils, except for the loudmouth tard.
Basically they look like whimps, I'm sure it's intentional for dramatic change effect but still, first impressions and all.
lol-stereotype/10
I mean, obviously every recruits that joined the Corps back in '41 were all protein shake-drinking gym fanatics!
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.03.22 12:35:00 -
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1) I waited for BoB to come out on DVD ... I'll wait for this.
2) It's pretty hard to compare to BoB. Stop doing that and you'll enjoy it more.
3) Looks like they're starting off with Guadalcanal. The only thing the Japanese had there at the time was some construction units building an air field (which is why we landed there - to take it away from them). There were no Japanese on the beach. Mostly they took off for the hills. They stood no chance of fighting and weren't necessarily combat troops. However - over on Tulagi and Gavutu (sp?) across Sea Lark Channel from Guadalcanal there were Japanese combat troops who had to be blasted out of caves and the Marine Paratroopers and other guys there (mostly 2nd Division guys (I believe it was 2nd Marines) - the First was on Guadalcanal) had to dig them out and saw some really heavy fighting.
4) No idea what's been said so far as I haven't seen any of it. But - one thing - is that when the they say something like 1st Marines or 2nd Marines - they are talking about the Regiment - as in 22nd Infantry which would be an Army Regiment. If they are talking about the division - they will say division - as in 1st Marine Division. Now - today - you will sometimes hear the use of the phrase "1st MarDiv" - but they didn't say that back in WWII that I am aware of. Most Divisions do not have contiguous regimental numbers though some are close. The 1st Marine Division had the 1st Marines, 5th Marines and 7th Marines as it's infantry units where as the 11th Marines was it's Artillery Regiment. The 2nd Marine Division had the 2nd Marines, 6th Marines and 8th Marines for it's infantry and the 10th Marines for it's artillery. For reasons I've forgotten, when the 1st Marine Division landed on Guadalcanal - one of it's regiments wasn't available so it borrowed (I believe) the 2nd Marines from the 2nd Marine Division. Later, the rest of the 2nd Marine Division came in to The Canal. There was also at least one Army Division there, I believe the Americal Division, which had been created when the Army went from 4 regiment divisions to 3 regiment divisions out of the cut off regiments from other divisions. I've forgotten any more about that unit though.
5) There were a series of Carrier and Surface battles in and around The Canal. Savo Island was the first - and was a disaster for the US as it lost 3 cruisers and Australia lost one. The Japanese lost one cruiser to a sub on the way home. But there were a whole string of these battles, so many that Sea Lark Channel gained the nick name Iron Bottom Sound from all the ships sunk there. National Geographic did a special on it ...
6) The whole theme of the struggle for Guadalcanal is that by taking that air base - the US controlled the seas and air around it. The Japanese could dump troops ashore from destroyers and barges and such - but it couldn't feed them. Repeated attempts to get proper supply vessels in met with failure. (I trust it is not a spoiler to let people know that the US won the battle).
7) Japan lost WWII at Guadalcanal. When it started - they still held the edge in the Pacific. By the time it was over - they had lost to many ships, aircraft and trained airmen that they could not replace. The US and it's allies lost men, ships and planes as well - but we were a much more powerful industrial nation than Japan - and could replace them. Before The Canal - Japan stood a real chance of militarily defeating the United States in the Pacific - at least in the short term. After The Canal - their only hope was to dig in and try to bleed the US for every island they took, hoping that the US would get tired and quit (like we did in Vietnam). The difference there - was a) Japan really ****ed us off with Pearl Harbor; b) they were fighting my generations parents instead of us (the spoiled brats of the boomer generation). That and LBJ was an idiot. The point of this last being - that this was a real strategy.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.22 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sobach
...lol-stereotype/10
I mean, obviously every recruits that joined the Corps back in '41 were all protein shake-drinking gym fanatics!
It's not about them all being beefcakes, I did however expect a higher percentage of something resembling athletes. It's also the look in their eyes, focus if you will and how they move in the jungle. These just doesn't look the part of some highly trained unit. Bad directing and/or bad acting, something stinks.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.03.22 16:42:00 -
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Like I said ... I've not see it ... but as far as the Marines who landed on Guadalcanal on August 7th 1942 ...
These guys had mostly been in the Marines since Pearl Harbor, so they'd had at most 9 months of training on average. They'd had no jungle training - which the Japanese for the most part hadn't either. Of course their officers and NCO's had been in longer - but you actually started having a problem there with the NCO's and senior Officers as a lot of those guys were actually to old to be out there in the jungle running around with malaria. Most of the really senior personnel - with exceptions like Puller - were gone before the rest of the unit was relieved in Jan/Feb '43.
All in all these guys were fairly ordinary looking. They had the discipline that the Marines impart - but that's about it.
The exception to this were the Para Marines and the Raiders. It was the Raiders who'd been in on the submarine launched raids earlier and who actually had some combat experience from that. Those units had more fit, younger veterans - and it was the Raiders who went into the jungle after the Japanese and just dogged their trail. The rest of the Marines manned a perimeter around Henderson Field.
As to Iceland - Iceland was not a separate country in 1942 but part of Denmark. Denmark was occupied by the Germans. Iceland was garrisoned by ... I believe ... the 7th Marines, which was why the 2nd Marines had been borrowed from the 2nd Marine Division. There were other units that were used to garrison some of the islands to the South East of the Solomons, such as Samoa, Fiji and New Caledonia. I'm afraid I don't remember which units did what but as the threat of Japanese invasion lessened with the combat in the Solomons these units were freed up and some were committed to the fighting for Guadalcanal. The 6th Marines, from the 2nd Marine Division were the last of the Marines to reach The Canal, the 8th having preceded them but I can't say exactly where they were before hand.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Anti Fundie Patrol
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Posted - 2010.03.22 18:03:00 -
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they'd better do the battle of Iwo Jima or I'm going to feel extremely short changed
Tarawa at least
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.22 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 22/03/2010 18:49:25
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny they'd better do the battle of Iwo Jima or I'm going to feel extremely short changed
Tarawa at least
Saipan at the very least but then again it would seem they're done with Guadalcanal and it wasn't so much of a story being told as them shooting a lot in the night and then being shipped off of there.
In BoB at least there was a story being told, not just a massive firefight. So in the end it matters very little what piece of jungle island they depict if the storytelling is going to be this thin.
As for Iceland, if they would have Iceland being nutzi occupied then why isn't Greenland also red, same logic apply.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Zyck
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.22 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny they'd better do the battle of Iwo Jima or I'm going to feel extremely short changed
Tarawa at least
The series covers Guadalcanal (obviously), Peilelu (sp?), Iwo Jima, and Okinawa.
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Xovak
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.23 00:14:00 -
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Just watched the 2nd part in standard definition because Comcast sucks ass. For some strange reason they have a bunch of other movie channels but no HBO in high definition... Screw service provider monopolies.
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Zyck
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.23 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Xovak Just watched the 2nd part in standard definition because Comcast sucks ass. For some strange reason they have a bunch of other movie channels but no HBO in high definition... Screw service provider monopolies.
Eh? I have comcast and it has like 11 different HBO channels, at least one of which is definitely HD.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Anti Fundie Patrol
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Posted - 2010.03.23 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Zyck
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny they'd better do the battle of Iwo Jima or I'm going to feel extremely short changed
Tarawa at least
The series covers Guadalcanal (obviously), Peilelu (sp?), Iwo Jima, and Okinawa.
Peleliu is what I want to see, most horrific battle for the USMC in WW2.
Operation Stalemate II for a reason
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Abraham Azadian
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2010.03.23 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 22/03/2010 14:05:17
Originally by: Sobach
...lol-stereotype/10
I mean, obviously every recruits that joined the Corps back in '41 were all protein shake-drinking gym fanatics!
It's not about them all being beefcakes, I did however expect a higher percentage of something resembling athletes. It's also the look in their eyes, focus if you will and how they move in the jungle. These just doesn't look the part of some highly trained unit. Bad directing and/or bad acting, something stinks.
Also tiny errors like Iceland being german held bring the overall down.
Muscles and look in their eyes ... British officer : "You French fight for money, while we British fight for honour." Surcouf : "A man fights for what he lacks the most!"
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.03.25 13:21:00 -
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Wikipedia link describing the series episodes.
Read "Helmet For My Pillow" when I was a kid.
Robert Leckie went on to become something of a military historian and I enjoyed his work.
An old black and white film, "Pride of the Marines", has a good section on the Tenaru fight. When the main character of this film comes into his machine gun position - they kick out some guys who are already there. Leckie was one of those guys.
Another book I read as a kid was "Marine at War" by Russell Davis - Apparently, he and Leckie were actually both in the same unit and mention each other in their books.
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Crawford McKinley
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Posted - 2010.03.25 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: HankMurphy watched last weeks episode. Seems good. I don't want to pass judgment yet but it has some ways to go to top band of brothers
I don't think it has anywhere near the caliber actors needed to top BoB. Also most of those doesn't look like marines, it looks like band camp on a jungle trek.
this is good... please inform us what a marine looks like
think he is confusing american marines who are little pussies with British marines who are mean mother ****ers who kick some ass :p
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.03.25 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Crawford McKinley
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: HankMurphy watched last weeks episode. Seems good. I don't want to pass judgment yet but it has some ways to go to top band of brothers
I don't think it has anywhere near the caliber actors needed to top BoB. Also most of those doesn't look like marines, it looks like band camp on a jungle trek.
this is good... please inform us what a marine looks like
think he is confusing american marines who are little pussies with British marines who are mean mother ****ers who kick some ass :p
Yeah? So ... what color is the boat house at Lympstone?
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Lorth
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2010.03.25 20:17:00 -
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I'm still a little unsure as to what to think of the series. I don't feel any attachment to the characters at all, and to be honest, I still don't recognize a main character when he appears on screen.
So much of what made band of brothers so good was the character development that occurred though out the series, and coupled when you never knew what instance would be anyones last it did a good job of drawing forth some deep emotions. The Pacific seems to be deeply lacking in that regard, ever single person in the series could be killed tomorrow, and I wouldn't care.
I'm still holding out however, since the actions of the Japanese during the war could be an enticing story all by its self. Heck this has the potential to develop into a series about the Japanese soldiers as told through their enemies eyes, I have a gut feeling that it will drift that way in part.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.03.26 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 26/03/2010 01:27:18
Originally by: Lorth I'm still a little unsure as to what to think of the series. I don't feel any attachment to the characters at all, and to be honest, I still don't recognize a main character when he appears on screen.
So much of what made band of brothers so good was the character development that occurred though out the series, and coupled when you never knew what instance would be anyones last it did a good job of drawing forth some deep emotions.
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I've got the DVD's for Band of Brothers but I've not seen any of The Pacific. However, I can see one problem with what The Pacific is trying to do and it's impact on identification with the characters.
The Pacific is trying to cover most of the war, from 1942 to 1945 where as Band of Brothers spent one episode on the time leading up to Normandy and then all but one of the rest on the 11 months that followed. Guadalcanal alone lasted about six months.
Organizationally, Ambrose, the author of Band of Brothers was dealing with just the people in one company where as, from looking at the episode schedule, The Pacific is dealing with several characters who were eventually in more than one division. So, here you're dealing with potentially a lot more people and a much longer period of time.
Another factor might be - that I for one - have seen Band of Brothers multiple times. I've got the DVD's and I've seen various parts of the series on such as The History Channel multiple times. The first time I saw Band of Brothers - I couldn't keep the characters straight either. There were a lot of them and while some were highlighted in a particular episode, many came and went just as they did in real life. It wasn't until I'd seen the series several times that I got to where I could remember more than a few specific characters and how they fit in the whole.
Anyway, as I've said previously, when considering your personal enjoyment of what you are watching - it is probably a mistake to contrast the two series - although it is inevitable that such contrasts will be made. Band of Brothers was such a stupendous success - that it's really unfair to anything that follows it to expect it to live up to it. No matter what anything else does - Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan came first.
It's like comparing any of the following Star Trek series to the original. Whatever the originals flaws - and the original Star Trek certainly had them - it was first, it created the genre and thus had a real advantage being compared to anything else.
So ... what I plan to do (lacking an HBO subscription) ... whenever I get around to buying the DVD's, like I did with Band of Brothers ... is to try and watch the series just for itself. Of course for me, having already read some of the books it's based on in my youth we'll have to see what kind of impact that has. I've probably read at least half a dozen books by Leckie who at one time was one of my favorite authors so to see him portrayed in this series is probably going to give me a different perspective than other people.
*shrug*
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NeoShocker
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.03.27 20:05:00 -
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Guys, pacific just started man. Enough comparision and enjoy watching the series. If you don't like it, well, that's unfortunate, but don't have to watch it. Gonna wait? Go for it. I did wait for BoB, but I'm going to watch Pacific weekly.
So when Pacific is done, then you can compare between BoB and Pacific.
See you guys after third episode. Watching Pacific makes me want to play more Company of Heroes for even longer hours. ----------------------------------- Peace through power! |
Jago Kain
Amarr Ramm's RDI Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.03.28 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk ...The Pacific is trying to cover most of the war, from 1942 to 1945...
Erm... most of the war?
How about half of the war.
WW2 kicked off in 1939 which makes it 6 years long. I realise that the land of the free and the home of the brave were somewhat tardy last time around (as indeed were the UK both with the actual declaration and then actually becoming directly involved) but there is really no excuse for not being able to count.
Still... at least they're making up for it by being really early for the next one.
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