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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.08.23 08:49:00 -
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Piddle Diddy wrote:Look, its another of those mysterious winners who managed to, gasp, triple their money, even though its statistically incredibly unlikely. It's not particularly unlikely, no. In fact, it's rather to be expected.
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CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Glary Crazy
Empyrean Warriors The Obsidian Front
0
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Posted - 2012.08.23 09:00:00 -
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Blinks legit, it's just unfortuanate idiots are on the internets who don't know that you can lose at a gamble. Whodathunkit. |
Diesel47
Painkiller.
114
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Posted - 2012.08.23 09:14:00 -
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I don't see how it is even fun.
If anything, I'd rather play EOH poker if i wanted to waste my time/isk |
McPod
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.23 12:02:00 -
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It's a legit scam. |
Kel Shek
Blue Sun Labs
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Posted - 2012.08.23 12:34:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:Quote:because the odds of winning on blink are about a zillion times better than winning the powerball or other real lotteries, and its set up in small bursts, not one big lump. That win ratio is public information, and a lot less people complain than actually lose ISK. I do have respect for the people that had the integrity to say "I lost money on it but such is the nature of the beast". Especially in a game with SO MANY SORE LOSERS AND WHINERS. You would think they would be bitching up a storm.
I am not sure it stands to reason that so many would be complaining so much. I think most of the sore losing and whining and such, are in a context where the person feels they were unfairly slighted. ... what if MOST of the people who lose in blink, understand the nature of it and just accept their losses as fair and part of the deal, and just move on?
Piddle Diddy wrote:Kel Shek wrote:Idiot tax definitly works when theres no real chance of winning. but well, with blink, this celebration I deposited 90m to start, and won a plex already. so setting aside everything I've won before the 300t event, even after losing the 50m I think it was I deposited after that, I'm at about triple my money? seems to me what I have already won, means that I can put something like 300m and still break even, even if I win nothing else.
Look, its another of those mysterious winners who managed to, gasp, triple their money, even though its statistically incredibly unlikely. Just like the other shills who advertise for Somer.
that was at the start. since then I've so far put in about 300m more, and won a few frigates and 50m or so ISK in cash. ... which means by my figuring, I'm just a little bit above breaking even.
even in this case, over time, the statistics work out to be much less incredible.
if a person put down one ticket on one blink, won, and stopped, they have won 100% and greatly increased their money. this isn't THAT statistically impossible. just unlikely.
coming out ahead on blink is all about getting lucky enough to get a starting point, and keeping ahead of the odds ironing out that wrinkle. |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
480
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Posted - 2012.08.23 14:01:00 -
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Piddle Diddy wrote:Kel Shek wrote:Idiot tax definitly works when theres no real chance of winning. but well, with blink, this celebration I deposited 90m to start, and won a plex already. so setting aside everything I've won before the 300t event, even after losing the 50m I think it was I deposited after that, I'm at about triple my money? seems to me what I have already won, means that I can put something like 300m and still break even, even if I win nothing else.
Look, its another of those mysterious winners who managed to, gasp, triple their money, even though its statistically incredibly unlikely. Just like the other shills who advertise for Somer.
I'm really good at blink.
Isk please for shilling. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á |
Potittious
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.08.23 14:04:00 -
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keep on shilling baby, keep on shilling
if you're stupid enough to believe whatever they tell you, even when logic tells you it is a scam, then I guess you deserve to be scammed you stupid sheep.
cheers! |
Kel Shek
Blue Sun Labs
0
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Posted - 2012.08.23 14:33:00 -
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Potittious wrote:keep on shilling baby, keep on shilling
if you're stupid enough to believe whatever they tell you, even when logic tells you it is a scam, then I guess you deserve to be scammed you stupid sheep.
cheers!
actually logic tells us that its NOT a scam.
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Potittious
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.23 14:50:00 -
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Kel Shek wrote:Potittious wrote:keep on shilling baby, keep on shilling
if you're stupid enough to believe whatever they tell you, even when logic tells you it is a scam, then I guess you deserve to be scammed you stupid sheep.
cheers! actually logic tells us that its NOT a scam. How so? An organization with no oversight, no regulation, no records, no confirmable information, no transparency, and nothing, absolutely nothing verifiable (positive or negative). In a game based on greed, scamming, and the infinite variety of pvp. But this one is somehow different. Nobody has answered the most basic question, why do you trust someone you know nothing about? Would you trust anyone else in eve based on the same lack of information? It boggles the mind. |
Totally Trustworthy
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.08.23 14:53:00 -
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I am totally trustworthy. Give me 1 mil ISK to participate in my lottery. I promise there are many other people playing and that I won't give the prize to my alt. |
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Kel Shek
Blue Sun Labs
0
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Posted - 2012.08.24 00:10:00 -
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Potittious wrote:[quote=Kel Shek] why do you trust someone you know nothing about? Would you trust anyone else in eve based on the same lack of information? It boggles the mind.
at first I didn't. at first, I started with an amount of money that I might be willing to give away, and expected that I very well might have been doing precisely that. I tested the waters to see if for example, I actually received payment when I requested it, that ships were delivered when they should be, ect.
and you know what? they were. any delays were quite reasonable, and the apparent odds over time, seemed to be within reasonable variation of luck, according to the presented circumstances.
in MY opinion, by my personal judgement, (which I do not expect or ask anyone to take my word or accept my judgement as conclusive) the most rational, logical case, is that they stand to gain more by keeping it legitimate, than they would by cheating.
another factor would be the difficulty in cheating. some forms of cheating would be easy, but the easy ways would be rather visible. doing it in a way that would not be obvious, would take ENORMOUS amounts of work. why spend all that energy when you can make more money more reliably, without doing that work?
ultimately, between my own personal experience, and the fact that I have seen absolutely no evidence that they are cheating, I see no reason why to think they are. |
Thabiso
Merchants of the Golden Goose
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Posted - 2012.08.24 13:12:00 -
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So reading this thread I got interested, especially after reading the apparent ramblings of a lunatic (the somer exposed).
Deposited 100m, they where on my account immediately, within an hour of playing I've won a PLEX and a Drake, both contracted almost immediately.
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alittlebirdy
All Hail The Liopleurodon
57
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Posted - 2012.08.24 13:24:00 -
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It's CCP allowed "botted" if you will isk.
It's all automated... and they make a profit.
Them macro miners are badddddd but HUGE auto isk making like blink and **** CCP allows it's kinda lol. |
TheGhostThatNeverLies
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.24 13:45:00 -
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Kel Shek wrote:another factor would be the difficulty in cheating. some forms of cheating would be easy, but the easy ways would be rather visible. doing it in a way that would not be obvious, would take ENORMOUS amounts of work. why spend all that energy when you can make more money more reliably, without doing that work? do you not understand how a computer works? the whole thing is off the eve servers and contained entirely on the backend of the website. No one needs to do anything. Its automated.
No one can stop you from misplacing your trust, but the shills and the naysayers need to face a basic fact: you're operating entirely on faith. You don't have any way to know whether they're cheating or not. In EVE, that is ALWAYS a bad idea. Why anyone would decide that one particular group eve is trustworthy without any proof is crazy.
I got this character name from a Family guy episode. Peter is in court and he's defending himself. He calls his surprise witness, the Ghost That Never Lies, But No One But Me Can See or Hear. Its apt.
By all means, keep throwing your ISK away. Brag about it. Tell everyone what a true Somer acolyte you are. Get territorial about it. Condemn anyone who disturbs your fantasy. They love it. It's the best kind of scam, one in which the victims defend the scammer. It makes you look ridiculous. |
The Arkhan
Bad Beat Inc. One Stop Research
0
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Posted - 2012.08.29 07:01:00 -
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I won 6b isk. But I broke the rules. I made alts. I had 1b in winnings pending when my accounts were closed. After I convoed a Blink rep, they sent me my winnings, although they kept my accounts closed.
I can never play Blink again, but it's a something I can live with, since it means I beat the house. Rather unfortunate for Somer actually because I was going to buy 4 GTCs from their affiliate to play more Blink since I knew eventually I would lose.
I will vouch for Blink. It's addictive, it's fun as hell, and it's legitimate. |
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
117
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Posted - 2012.08.29 08:24:00 -
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Kel Shek wrote:Potittious wrote:[quote=Kel Shek] why do you trust someone you know nothing about? Would you trust anyone else in eve based on the same lack of information? It boggles the mind. at first I didn't. at first, I started with an amount of money that I might be willing to give away, and expected that I very well might have been doing precisely that. I tested the waters to see if for example, I actually received payment when I requested it, that ships were delivered when they should be, ect. and you know what? they were. any delays were quite reasonable, and the apparent odds over time, seemed to be within reasonable variation of luck, according to the presented circumstances. in MY opinion, by my personal judgement, (which I do not expect or ask anyone to take my word or accept my judgement as conclusive) the most rational, logical case, is that they stand to gain more by keeping it legitimate, than they would by cheating. another factor would be the difficulty in cheating. some forms of cheating would be easy, but the easy ways would be rather visible. doing it in a way that would not be obvious, would take ENORMOUS amounts of work. why spend all that energy when you can make more money more reliably, without doing that work? ultimately, between my own personal experience, and the fact that I have seen absolutely no evidence that they are cheating, I see no reason why to think they are.
Textbook Ponzi scam FFS. "Logic dictates" that I now LOL.
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Baron vonSteubing
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.08.29 08:54:00 -
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i can offer nothing but my own experience...
i think its a scam of sorts.
Some people have massive win %, ive seen like 80% win rate on 200 blinks with only 3bil deposited.
Im not saying its a terrible game, but its definately not "fair" as they claim. Its not randomly won... and the "bonk" has been won 3 times by the same guy... the chances of that are crazy.
It is addicting and hats off to them for cashing in on that...
I joined blink with my main, lost 1bil and then convoed a somer blink guy in their channel. after telling him that i would deposit more isk if i won a few more... i magically won 2 promo blinks and a proteus and 3 smaller ships without a single loss...
It might be conincidence and juts gambling... but something doesnt smell right |
Serith Ellecon
Keepers of the Abyss IMPERIAL LEGI0N
0
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Posted - 2012.08.30 03:58:00 -
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McPod wrote:It's a legit scam. This. In the same way every casino on the planet is a legit scam (where local laws allow).
They make a huge profit on every blink running it legitimately, why would they ever need to turn it into a scam? |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
218
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Posted - 2012.08.30 04:21:00 -
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if you have to ask;
If you are playing EVE, its a scam lol http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Zeronicks Oman
RUS Rebels Ultima Rati0
0
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Posted - 2012.09.18 19:10:00 -
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Somer blink Statistic site http://blink.post-geek.com/ |
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Germaldi's Mum
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.09.19 10:43:00 -
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Ariel Armani wrote:Hello, I heard about this 250 celebration or whatever that Somer Blink is having, so I was interested. I have some extra ISK for "fun". Anyway, I was asking around, and somebody sent me this link - http://blinkexposed.blogspot.com/That got me worried, so I asked about it in the Blink thread. Some dude Andrew Nox (with Blink I guess) told me to just "ask other Blink players about their experiences". So that's what I am doing. Anybody want to share their experiences, good or bad? Thanks!
i won 8 ships in 2 days... including a carrier... using the free blink credit u get when ya buy a gtc via somer blink's website. so far i can't complain tbh |
Thibault Etienne
10
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Posted - 2012.09.19 11:22:00 -
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Won plex on promo and now I'm a multi billionaire. Main thing is know your limits and follow the basic EVE rule. Don't play with what you cant afford to loose. Haven't had any problems. Payout is fast. I will continue to blink my 100k a week. |
Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
272
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Posted - 2012.09.19 11:56:00 -
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Blink scammed me too.
I won a Succubus, Phantasm, and four assault frigates when I expected to be scammed out of my ISK. Blink scammed me with legitimacy. :| "For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones."-á -- PB |
Destriouth Hollow
Star-Destroying-Warlords Destiny's Call
1
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Posted - 2012.09.22 14:09:00 -
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Hey I do not know if they use scammer-alts, who always win to improve their income even further. But I don't beleave that is the case!
The whole system is well thought through. They make far less profit as the regular blinks would indicate. Yet, I do realize they do make a WHOLE BUNCH OF PROFIT. The whole system all together is complex as hell, making it almost impossible to completly understand it. All those gimmics are breathtaking (: But I tried to understand how it works and I found a way for myself to make ISK in the longrun. Ofcourse, if everybody behaved like me the page wouldn't work (: I have to admit I was a bit lucky, but those are my numbers: I deposited 132,000,000 ISK I took out 1,424,520,000 ISK
My grandma used to say: "I like playing in the casino. I don't expect to win. Other people spend their money going to the cinema and doing other hobbies. I use my spares to play in the casino. If I don't win, I at least had some fun spending time. If i win: great bonus"
Conclusion: I don't beleave they need to scam in any way, as they make tons of profit. They offer some fun for a low percantage of your ISK with a chance to even earn ISK. And If you are smart you can actually make ISK off the other blinkers by running smart blinks (: like me (:
regards Destriouth Hollow
EDIT: I will not tell what I do (: They thought of a good model and there is a lot of work in the page and system. I don't want to ruin this for them. (: |
Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
66
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Posted - 2012.09.22 14:35:00 -
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I've had nothing but fun. Well, the CIA is after me and my best friend has been replaced with an alien, but I don't think it's connected to Blink. OR IS IT? Music for robots, geeks, hackers, and nerds. Nerdiest homepage on the internet? |
Destriouth Hollow
Star-Destroying-Warlords Destiny's Call
1
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Posted - 2012.09.22 14:39:00 -
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Yeah (: Even if I know what to do and not do on blink to actually earn some ISK for me: It's GOD DAMN HARD to restrain myself to that (: As blinking is a lot of fun (: Maybe paying for the fun isn't as bad. Don't we all do that for EVE already? (: |
Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2012.09.24 07:13:00 -
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I love this Blink stuff.
I just won Hilmar"s jeans! AND 8 Billion AUR! And a new unreleased prototype SB with 16 high slots!
You fools are hilarious. Can I interest you in a eve Banking account? |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
361
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Posted - 2012.09.24 07:50:00 -
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another bump for the Somer Blink advertisement thread.
"Somer Blink - I can't believe it's not a scam." I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
PI Maker
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.09.24 14:42:00 -
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its obviously a scam. |
UNICR0N
SWARTA Mostly Clueless
2
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Posted - 2012.09.24 17:41:00 -
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Ariel Armani wrote:Hello, I heard about this 250 celebration or whatever that Somer Blink is having, so I was interested. I have some extra ISK for "fun". Anyway, I was asking around, and somebody sent me this link - http://blinkexposed.blogspot.com/That got me worried, so I asked about it in the Blink thread. Some dude Andrew Nox (with Blink I guess) told me to just "ask other Blink players about their experiences". So that's what I am doing. Anybody want to share their experiences, good or bad? Thanks! In my experience I have won a lot and lost a lot like many other but I would't call it a scam it's there way of also making isk they can't just hand it out like crazy like it's going and from what I know my friend sold his character somer bought it and he see's his alt in somer all the time it's a "bot" none the less but the corp has to make it's circular income some how I suppose even when you buy out something have a 80% chance to win and you still somehow lose.... |
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