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Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
146
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Posted - 2012.07.03 21:51:00 -
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Another OP to confirm that most EVE-players really have no clue how to play this game. Ronald Reagan: I do not like Sweden, they support communism. Minister: Sir, but Sweden are anti-communist, Sir.-á Ronald Reagan: I do not care what kind of communists they are. |
Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp
117
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Posted - 2012.07.03 22:01:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:* Vincent Athena hides huge pile of PI generated ISK under the bed.
Yep, totally worthless... Well share your secret because I am not seeing that it is worth the effort. 12 PI toons....clicky clicky click.....carpal tunnel.....2 months later......3 new mice....advance carpal tunnel....clicky click click...surgery..... |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
125
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Posted - 2012.07.03 22:04:00 -
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Be sure CCP will spend more resources on PI in next 12-18 months to make Dust bunnies less frustrated with FPS game which require months of skill training to purchase and mount vehicles instantly available in less-RPG FPS games. |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
429
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Posted - 2012.07.03 22:25:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Why was this put into game? There are things you can make with the processing units and no market for them at all. So why is this broken system in game? Is CCP ever going to make PI worth the cost of training and ISK so that we don't feel like we've wasted time on it?
You must be doing something wrong. PI is one for the easiest and the lowest overhead way to make ISK in the game. EVERYBODY KNOWS |
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
119
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Posted - 2012.07.03 23:37:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:Be sure CCP will spend more resources on PI in next 12-18 months to make Dust bunnies less frustrated with FPS game which require months of skill training to purchase and mount vehicles instantly available in less-RPG FPS games.
lol @ the person who never played Dust yet thinks they know everything about a game they never played. Sounds like a PC user is butt hurt over it being PS3 only? I definitely sense the butthurt. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
368
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Posted - 2012.07.04 00:05:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:I used to net about 2 bil a month from my PI army. That reminds me, I still need to start my PI back up. Lies, all lies. PI is completely worthless and everyone (except me )should stop doing it.
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Alain Kinsella
121
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Posted - 2012.07.04 01:31:00 -
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Ziranda Hakuli wrote:12 PI toons....clicky clicky click.....carpal tunnel.....2 months later......3 new mice....advance carpal tunnel....clicky click click...surgery..... That was the first version, which did irritate my wrists.
The current version does not, and even with high-sec taxes (and one account) you can make a profit - probably not a PLEX though. However, like all major industry in Eve, you have to do the research to make it work.
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
159
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Posted - 2012.07.04 01:36:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:I'm still hoping for the day when we can build cool stuff like universities on our planets and produce skillbooks & implants via PI.
This actually has the makings of a great idea. Whether or not you win the game matters not. -áIt's if you bought it. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
220
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Posted - 2012.07.04 07:03:00 -
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Mechael wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:I'm still hoping for the day when we can build cool stuff like universities on our planets and produce skillbooks & implants via PI. This actually has the makings of a great idea. it's not my idea though.
there were screenshots of a Chaos build (which did at least look real) which showed pretty much this a few weeks before PI release. |
Alaya Carrier
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2012.07.04 07:14:00 -
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In high season PI netted me about 46M per hour.
Not too shabby for a "waste" of feature. |
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Rajan Marelona
Hedion University Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2012.07.04 07:25:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote: There are things you can make with the processing units and no market for them at all. Have you tried going to, oh, Jita ?
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Danfen Fenix
131
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Posted - 2012.07.04 08:14:00 -
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You cant make a profit on PI ? Jesus, I dont think I wan't to know what you're doing with it. |
Mallak Azaria
267
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Posted - 2012.07.04 08:17:00 -
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Alaya Carrier wrote:In high season PI netted me about 46M per hour.
Not too shabby for a "waste" of feature.
Possibly the only thing you'll ever say that I actually agree with. We should definately go on a date next fanfest. |
Axium Cog
Grand Solar Trinity Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
22
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Posted - 2012.07.04 08:36:00 -
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dont forget most sov related structures are built from PI, POS fuel is built from PI, Nano Paste, and pretty much all the commodities that werent originally player manufactured.
one char with mediocre skills and 5 mins a day nets me enough to plex, and that with using lowsec planets. it takes some getting used to, but once you figure it out its easy money and def supplements your more dangerous habits...and my Exotic Dancer habit... |
Mark Androcius
92
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Posted - 2012.07.04 08:39:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Why was this put into game? There are things you can make with the processing units and no market for them at all. So why is this broken system in game? Is CCP ever going to make PI worth the cost of training and ISK so that we don't feel like we've wasted time on it?
I think you whipping your CC out to pay for your sub, was the biggest waste of effort in EVE. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8354
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Posted - 2012.07.04 08:50:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:You cant make a profit on PI ? Jesus, I dont think I wan't to know what you're doing with it. Extracting and directly selling P0 mats in highsec? I'd imagine that the margins are simply too small (or even negative) on that not to generate any kind of measurable profit. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
205
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Posted - 2012.07.04 09:24:00 -
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I hate anything that isn't spaceships and call it a waste of resources because I am simple minded and fear change.
True story. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant or dignified. |
gobbybobby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
6
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Posted - 2012.07.04 11:23:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:I used to net about 2 bil a month from my PI army. That reminds me, I still need to start my PI back up.
how many accounts did you use tho.
I used to get about 500M a month on 1 account, making wetware mainframes 6 months ago. They where selling 1.5M each Jita back then tho, looks like under 1M today
I made about 70% of the stuff, and bought in the other 30% (as on 1 account its hard to make everything for the Top tier construction) |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
641
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Posted - 2012.07.04 11:25:00 -
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Sovereignty was. shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Iria Ahrens
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2012.07.04 11:39:00 -
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Nikolai Dostoyevski wrote:PI is sooooo boring. I did it for about a month or two, using two different accounts, 8 planets total. Even though it's a fairly decent amount of ISK that can be gained with minimal effort, I don't even bother anymore. It's just too bleh. It's worse than mining.
This. Did PI in a WH. Made decent isk, but maximizing production meant I quickly drained the sources, and had to move to maintain the production rate. Moving every couple days, and having to move heads daily too up time I could have spent having fun. "I was about to say GÇ£HereGÇÖs a RubikGÇÖs cube, go f%$^ yourself,GÇ¥ because thatGÇÖs what we do with EVE Online." EVE Lead Game Designer Kristoffer Touborg for PC Gamer |
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Kyle Ward
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
159
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Posted - 2012.07.04 11:48:00 -
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Two clicks twice a month and I get a free 60mil - seems fine to me. The Sandbox, you're playing it wrong! |
Grizilk Chanlin
Mrs. Robinson
5
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Posted - 2012.07.04 12:12:00 -
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1 character, 5 planets, 2.5 million a day for 5 min of work per day in high sec. Seems fine for me at this time. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
409
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Posted - 2012.07.04 12:15:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:* Vincent Athena hides huge pile of PI generated ISK under the bed.
Yep, totally worthless... Well share your secret because I am not seeing that it is worth the effort.
PI requires some effort and logistic strategic, there are far too much people selling PI at low cost because they stop their production at low levels and sell primary or secondary PI products.
You need to find some product you can produce at least P1-P2 and eventually P3 in the same planet, choose the right extraction cycle for no waste and of course do this on several planets. Your logistic strategy will be to waste less time possible doing this and make it so you can transport your goods at a good place for sell.
If you do it right you can win a lot of isk, but actually if you don't have good planets and can't sell those goods for good price then you'll be better ratting in null/low, your isk/h is greater. brb |
Samillian
Moonshine Industries The Last Chancers.
167
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Posted - 2012.07.04 12:20:00 -
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If your not making money from PI (even HiSec PI) your doing it very wrong. NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |
Frank Corncob
Biofuel Productions
0
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Posted - 2012.07.04 12:49:00 -
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I use PI to make fuel for my POS, because the ice I mine is free I save a lot of money!!!! |
Kristof Atruin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.07.04 13:49:00 -
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Not useless at all, you just have to do your market research. I spent months making a profit making robotics from p1 on a single planet, until I figured out the higher volume in a different production plan would get me greater profits. I have 10 planets in total now. My import / export taxes are low, but I also pay 375 isk / m3 to export product to Jita. I still make around 600m a month, which only requires me to log in for 30 minutes or so a day to poke my colonies and keep them producing. Once every 3 weeks I have to uproot an extractor setup and move it to a new hotspot, which is the only time a lot of clicking is involved. This setup also allows me to leave enough of an input buffer on my combat main that I can deploy for a few days without significantly interrupting my income stream.
There are many products which have a global demand so low that a single player could crash the market, but as you can see if you do your research you can make a lot of isk for relatively low effort. The feature as a whole is far from a waste of effort. I'm hoping to see the concept expanded so that there are even more viable things to produce. |
Komen
Capital Enrichment Services The Night Crew Alliance
97
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Posted - 2012.07.04 14:13:00 -
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I pay for 2 accounts with plex through PI, and still have enough left over for shiny, shiny spaceboatmurder. |
Signal11th
587
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Posted - 2012.07.04 14:18:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Was PI the biggest waste of effort in EVE?
Strangely enough I though Magnum would have had more of an impact in EVE, He used to be quality in the 80's even with the dodgy tache. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
1385
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Posted - 2012.07.04 16:48:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:* Vincent Athena hides huge pile of PI generated ISK under the bed.
Yep, totally worthless... Well share your secret because I am not seeing that it is worth the effort. PI requires some effort and logistic strategic, there are far too much people selling PI at low cost because they stop their production at low levels and sell primary or secondary PI products. You need to find some product you can produce at least P1-P2 and eventually P3 in the same planet, choose the right extraction cycle for no waste and of course do this on several planets. Your logistic strategy will be to waste less time possible doing this and make it so you can transport your goods at a good place for sell. If you do it right you can win a lot of isk, but actually if you don't have good planets and can't sell those goods for good price then you'll be better ratting in null/low, your isk/h is greater.
Thank you Lin for the advice. I think what I was doing wrong was not looking ahead to see what advanced products could be built from the resources gathered on the planet. I figured out now how to collect two, of the right resources, and am in the process of combining them to make an advanced product. I thought PI would be more like SWG's resource gathering system. We collect the resources. Then use them in crafting. I didn't really know that all the crafting took place in the PI processes.
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
256
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Posted - 2012.07.04 17:05:00 -
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gobbybobby wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:I used to net about 2 bil a month from my PI army. That reminds me, I still need to start my PI back up. how many accounts did you use tho. I used to get about 500M a month on 1 account, making wetware mainframes 6 months ago. They where selling 1.5M each Jita back then tho, looks like under 1M today I made about 70% of the stuff, and bought in the other 30% (as on 1 account its hard to make everything for the Top tier construction)
2 accounts. All slots were trained with ccu4 ic4 and rs1
In a wormhole btw |
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