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lasterax
Minmatar Free Masons United Inc. Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.03.26 04:16:00 -
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Heroes of Providence and Capsuleers of New Eden,
Over the past few months Libertas Fidelitas, Curatores Veritatis and our Providence Holders allies have been engaged in a struggle -- a struggle over power and pride. Rather than bore you with all the fine details I'm certain you will have no interest in I will break it down to the simple facts.
This struggle culminated in the now infamous Battle of D-G where hundreds of dreadnoughts were lost in part due to spatial anomalies. It was clear to me at that point that the war was over, we showed with our forces and we lost. It was an honorable fight, we tried our best, but quite clearly our fleet commanders weren't ready for the battlefield, our pilots weren't properly trained and our infrastructure was not properly aligned to provide for a victory in this war -- not now.
At this point Against All Authorities' executor made his offer for peace and even included discussing expansion into other areas of Catch of less vital need to -A-. All that was needed to conclude this arrangement? Swear off attacking -A- sovereignty for the immediate future. To me, this was an offer that required little deliberation. We were being asked to give up what we had already proved as beyond our capacity -- waging a successful sovereignty war. In return we would realize the goals of the campaign before it started (acquiring space for the new Holders) and we would take the valuable experience we obtained from our failures in the campaign to build for the future.
I stood up front and center, and proposed that we accept the deal and outlined my case for it much as I have just done for you now. Lord Aralis would have none of it. At this point much acrimony ripped through the Holders and within CVA as it was clear others shared my view but Lord Aralis made it clear what would happen to those who dared question his decision -- he would seek to undermine and destroy you. Since I dared speak, at the direction of my alliance mind you, we have endured our access to secure channels being revoked with no reason and no warning, Lord Aralis has attempted to foster not one but two coups within LFA and he has offered no plan to resolve the current situation other than a ridiculous Fabian Strategy to somehow wear down the will of a fleet of titans and a coalition of half the pod pilots in New Eden.
Lord Aralis has lost any and all authority to govern Providence be that militarily or morally. He clearly has no military ability to govern Providence as entire systems have been lost swaths at a time with little to no response from CVA and entire alliances are chased from the region. My own constellation fell under attack and our calls for help were ignored. He has lost any moral ability to govern Providence as Lord Aralis has shown he has no patience for those who do not agree with him, he only wants slaves and slaves to do what he interprets as the will of the Empire. I say he has no such authority from the Empire as no leader would behave in such a matter towards those who spilled their blood for the Empire and Providence and showed nothing but the highest devotion to the cause. The hypocrisy of Lord Aralis knows no bounds as he claims CVA has no vassals or "pets". This is akin to him telling a man he need not stand in place, he just wasn't allowed to use his legs to move from it! As long as your allies are seen as nothing more than those who need to swear allegiance and follow your commands without question they are just that -- vassals and mere pets of Lord Aralis and his now imaginary empire. Lord Aralis should be commended for what was built in Providence but he has lost his way, lost his sight of the path, lost any grip on reality and lacks any understanding whatever of New Eden politics......
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lasterax
Minmatar Free Masons United Inc. Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.03.26 04:21:00 -
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/continued...
I call upon my fellow Holders and free residents of Providece to stand up, stand up and say this shall not pass; we will not be a party to tyrants and we stand for the true spirit of liberty in Providence. We will not be moved from our claimed systems and we consider any and all previous agreements null and void as Lord Aralis has violated the terms of that agreement by seeking to interfere in the internal affairs of our alliance as well as other Holders. Join us in forming a new coalition in Providence, one devoted to liberty and freedom -- not tyranny and servitude.
We bear no malice towards any member of CVA and understand if you feel morally obligated to follow your leader. However I swear to you now that if we are left in peace we will not take up arms against you. We welcome in friendship those who will keep their word, respect our individual sorvereignty and work together as friends. But we will not stand for tyranny, we will not follow the orders of a tyrant and we will fight any who he sends against us to do his bidding.
lasterax Executor Libertas Fidelitas
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.26 04:42:00 -
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Well I suppose the writing's been on the wall for this one a while now.
Originally by: lasterax I swear to you now that if we are left in peace we will not take up arms against you.
So be it. In honor of LFA's service as Holders, we will ignore what constitutes slander of our Lord Aralis and acknowledge your declaration of independence and your declaration of peaceful intent. CVA will maintain neutral standings with Libertas Fidelitas.
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EnvynLust
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Posted - 2010.03.26 04:58:00 -
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I look forward to fighting with, and against all of those who I have flown with so far.
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Mazca Lopez
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.03.26 08:11:00 -
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Will LFA maintain NRDS ROE, and will they keep their RED list as it was?
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.26 08:24:00 -
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When the ship sinks the rats flee? _______________________ We come for our people! |
Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.26 10:53:00 -
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A brave step which does you credit. It's a shame it has taken this long.
Originally by: lasterax He has lost any moral ability to govern Providence as Lord Aralis has shown he has no patience for those who do not agree with him, he only wants slaves and slaves to do what he interprets as the will of the Empire. I say he has no such authority from the Empire as no leader would behave in such a matter towards those who spilled their blood for the Empire and Providence and showed nothing but the highest devotion to the cause.
I hope that one day this experience will lead you to actively opposing slavery in all its forms. _____________________
For Tribe and Honour! |
Iva Posavec
Posavec Innovations Takhar Matari
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Posted - 2010.03.26 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Iva Posavec on 26/03/2010 13:18:14
Took longer than expected but still, better late than never. Aralis has harmed the people of Providence more than the so called terrorists ever did, and in such a short time. Hopefully others will follow in your example. . Alliance Creation Service |
Seliah
Minmatar Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.03.26 14:41:00 -
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It's good to see some people finally opening their eyes. It doesn't absolve you for what you've done in the past, but it's definitely a huge step in the right direction.
An era is coming to an end for the people of Providence, and I'm glad LFA seems to be learning from their mistakes and moving on, instead of desesperately trying to hold on to whatever's left of Providence as we've known it for the past 3 years.
A question still stands though. By cutting all bridges with CVA and the rest of the Providence bloc, does LFA also renounce to all the ideals of CVA / the Amarrian empire / slavery ? Or you're just going to keep defending those ideals on your own ?
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lasterax
Minmatar Free Masons United Inc. Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.03.26 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: lasterax on 26/03/2010 15:53:06 Edited by: lasterax on 26/03/2010 15:51:36 @Garreck - Thank you for acknowledging our position, we obviously disagree on the actions of Aralis, however every word about the actions of Aralis is true. One may interpret them differently but there is no question as to the actions taken. We consider many in CVA to be our brothers and are sorry it has come to this, but these high level disagreements cannot continue and we are hopeful you understand.
@Mazca - We are maintaining an NRDS ROE, our standings will be our own and set by us. That is not written in stone, over the years we have had discussions about CVA's NRDS ROE, we may seek to make alterations to it and will announce any changes.
@Stratio - We did take a long time to come to this decision, it was discussed for a long time. I felt it best to not do it at a time of heightened fleet operations. However, it was Aralis' latest actions (removing our access again and again calling on my CEOs to coup me) which led to this action.
@Seliah - LFA is committed to being a secular alliance. We renounce slavery and all that it entails. There have been movements within the Empire to end slavery, we are hopeful the Empire will fully renounce slavery soon.
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Julius Rigel
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Posted - 2010.03.26 16:21:00 -
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As a free spirit who roams the unbound and unbidden I have taken great pleasure in the relative freedom of Providence and was shocked to hear of the unpreparedness with which CVA "defended" their beloved home.
To LFA, I wish you a home with real friends and real enemies. I wish you good luck and good times!
And to CVA, it was agreeable while it lasted. Work hard, play (dead) hard.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.03.26 16:27:00 -
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This is certainly an interesting development. I wonder if the enemies of CVA will respect the newfound neutral status of LFA.
In either case, this bodes well for business.
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Princess Morenta
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.03.26 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn This is certainly an interesting development. I wonder if the enemies of CVA will respect the newfound neutral status of LFA.
In either case, this bodes well for business.
Considering they launched the attack and then bailed I doubt so..
They are just occupying space that should be rented :P
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.03.26 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Morenta
Originally by: Lyris Nairn This is certainly an interesting development. I wonder if the enemies of CVA will respect the newfound neutral status of LFA.
In either case, this bodes well for business.
Considering they launched the attack and then bailed I doubt so..
They are just occupying space that should be rented :P
As I stated, either eventuality bodes well for business. I am personally in no hurry to see hostilities end (war is good for business), but I would be quite happy to engage clients in relaxed commerce in Providence once they eventually do (peace is good for business). We shall see how things go in the coming weeks; meanwhile, Hashimoto investments continue to return tidy dividends because of this splendid little war.
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Snakester
Caldari IronPig Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.26 17:43:00 -
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LOL, it was LFA that pushed for expansion in the 1st place ... always asking CVA if u could expand into catch ..... The previous CVA leader (who i won't utter his name) let u, saw what was happening then up and left, leaving Aralis to take back the reins. I for one commend his morals for not bowing to -A-'s demands and becoming another pet.
The fight still goes on, just roles have switched, i guess u just want your space the way it was/is ... just different alliances rolling through it :). Sig removed, inappropriate link. ~Saint |
Dogbeast
Minmatar Darkwave Technologies Blade.
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Posted - 2010.03.26 19:07:00 -
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I lol'ed.
An endless life, at an endless price. |
tunt
TOASTED Corp Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.03.26 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: foksieloy When the ship sinks the rats flee?
So true hahaha
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Equinox Daedalus
Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.26 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 26/03/2010 22:18:37 Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 26/03/2010 22:16:37
Originally by: foksieloy When the ship sinks the rats flee?
I hope I live long enough to see you burn like the minny dog you are lasterax. You cower and whimper like a spineless slave who has never gotten over his fears, and is indeed far from being enlightened.
Of course its always CVA's fault. clearly. As CEO of TLOS I take full responsibility for my actions. I accept all blame for Everything that happens in providence. I accept the fact that we CVA and its allies bit off more than we were able too and indeed are being punished by God himself for our arrogance. I accept the fact that CVA may be in for a long road. You, however will be in for a much longer one.
For while you sow dissention and try to divide our loyalties to one another, you only show why your alliance has fallen to numbers that make your rebellion that much more clever.
I'd hoped you would come to your senses, but I suppose you just need more khumak beatings into your thick skull. Its only by Lord Aralis's calm mood and demeanor that I've not hunted your corpse for those foul words you speak of him. I suggest you watch your tongue before the goats decide to watch it for you.
I do hope no one leans to trust on your alliance again. For it has shown its true colors.
The Legion of Spoon : Upon wings of wax I fly, never to close too the sun |
Vigilanta
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Posted - 2010.03.27 01:28:00 -
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Are their plans to reform your ally, i say this cause you currently hover at 200 members... not gunna hold the lowest trusec of providence with that.
And congrats for showing yourselves to be as spineless as I always thought you were. Hope your new master's don't whip you to hard :).
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Stryus VanAedon
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Posted - 2010.03.27 03:59:00 -
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Lasterax Quote: Quote: Lord Aralis has lost any and all authority to govern Providence be that militarily or morally.
I would recommend taking Lord Aralis's name out of the quote and inserting your own. YOU and only YOU are responsible for any and everything that happens to LFA. You brought this upon yourself with YOUR fail leadership. If would treat people the way you expected to be treated - you might have done better for yourself and your alliance. Instead, you decided to go down this route, eat Twinkies and now have to live with your actions. I hope you get podded on a regular basis and go to EVE HELL.
Stryus VanAedon (former LFA member and LIFE LONG Enemy of Lasterax)
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lasterax
Minmatar Free Masons United Inc. Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.03.27 04:38:00 -
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@ED You know I'm absolutely shocked that cries of cowardice and whatnot are coming at me as I am yet another who has announced he has parted ways. As CVA's communications are regularly intercepted virtually all of New Eden knows the treatment of warriors who disagree with the direction. The warriors, those who spent days on end planning and executing the failed invasion are labeled the cowards for not putting up with it any more. The ones who sat on the sidelines (not hard to find those), did little and complained much are there to taunt them. One wonders how a certain video parody being transmitted throughout New Eden came to be so close to the truth in that regard. One man who has clearly lost touch blames the warriors for the decisions he has made.
If anything I waited too long to do this, maybe if I had firmly taken a stand instead of being cajoled to toe the company line I would have kept those corps that you're referring to. Perhaps if those corps had left to other Holders or elsewhere in Providence I would accept their leaving was because of me. However, since they didn't do that one can only conclude they were being honest when they gave the reasons to all of you that they were tired of the direction of Providence.
So you can point the finger at me all you would like. You know who devised the plan to attack. You know who ordered it. You know who we were intending to take more space for. All three of those answers are "not LFA".
Supporting slavery it is no wonder that you would support having your Holders as slaves. Not any more, not this Holder and even if I had two men left you would get the same reply.
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D'agon Picard
Amarr Ordo Drakonis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.27 07:31:00 -
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maggot
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleet Yards Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.27 11:52:00 -
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As the saying goes:
'A coward boasting of his courage may deceive strangers, but he is a laughing-stock to those who know him.'
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Neddy Fox
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.27 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Neddy Fox on 27/03/2010 16:15:14 Recording of the replies from a holder
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Anaise d'Flaumond
Phoenix Consortium On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.03.27 19:26:00 -
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Good luck on your new future LFA!
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edeity
Amarr Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2010.03.28 03:11:00 -
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Lasterax is a trustworthy and sensible man.
Alas, sensible men, whilst able to live to fight another day in that very act lose what they have to fight for. Welcome to irrelevance.
Aralis remains the greater man.
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zoolkhan
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.28 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Morenta
Originally by: Lyris Nairn This is certainly an interesting development. I wonder if the enemies of CVA will respect the newfound neutral status of LFA.
In either case, this bodes well for business.
Considering they launched the attack and then bailed I doubt so..
They are just occupying space that should be rented :P
they went from blue to transparent status with CVA.
All other standings are likely to be unchanged at this stage.
recruiting -forum
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EI Torrent
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Posted - 2010.03.28 11:50:00 -
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The only option they have left is to strike a deal with -A- to save their space (ie become a pet). Otherwise they'll be steamrolled just like the rest of provi.
So much for being independent.
But seriously, LFA has no PVP ability left whatsoever since 101st and Smegnet left. If I were you lasterax I would like pack up and call it a day. Save yourself from any more embarrassment.
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Maleia Gallagher
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Posted - 2010.03.29 05:33:00 -
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I remember my days spent in LFA space fondly. Good luck, good hunting, and may you emerge from the growing conflicts stronger. :) |
Isaac Starstriker
Amarr Frontier Venture
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Posted - 2010.03.29 07:02:00 -
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The hate and anger from CVA directed at LFA is...is disturbing. Has CVA lost itself so much that allies must be rebuked and spit on? "maggot, coward", sheesh.
This is not the proud CVA I once knew. I am greatly saddened by this.
@Lasterax. I was once in your alliance a while ago. I wish you and your alliance the greatest of luck and safe flying. Its a pity that your allies say such things. Its a real pity...
--Isaac A Paladin Without A Crusade...
"You just can't fix stupid"
Amarr Victor.
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