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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.06 06:10:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:And some people can't post responsibly at all.
Stop putting yourself down.
One day you will make a post without managing to sound hurt and angry You want fries with that? |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
344
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Posted - 2012.07.06 06:29:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Jade Constantine wrote: wrote:Pipa Porto There you go, you've been asked by someone's main. Well he (in particular) does need to answer the question I asked him first of course. I'm hardly likely to pay him the respect of giving him an answer while he's still dodging and wriggling the question I asked him first am I ? You mean this post? Jade Constantine wrote:Lapine Davion wrote: You really aren't all that special except for the La Maison stuff ... And the irony being your directors made up the "La Maison stuff" / allegations of RL prostitution / child pornography etc simply to try to smear an internet spaceship election campaign and try to lose an eve player their RL job. You guys went as far as creating fake websites, erotic fan fiction and a rl letter writing campaign - you were pretty damned serious about it. That's the allegation you're being asked to prove. Linking a site does nothing to prove that, unless you can prove the provenance. You allege the Following, long before you asked Zim any questions: 1) Goonswarm Directors created the following a) La Maison b) RL Prostitution/CP claims c) websites that purported to be under your control, including Erotic Fan Fiction d) administered a letter writing campaign 2) they did this with the intention to make your CSM campaign fail 3) they did this with the intention to make you lose your job TBH, I've seen no evidence that they created anything. They may be culpable in continued hosting of La Maison (whoever created it)*, but that's all I've ever seen you prove. *Hosting it's in poor taste if it's without any provenance (and I haven't really looked for any). PS: While I grant that someone else brought up La Maison, you are the only one who I've ever seen bring up references to RL prostitution/cp in any thread, and you did bring up (for no apparent reason, this purported GSF hatred of you) before that.
All it would take to settle this horrible affair, would be for mittens to issue a statement saying that the goons have never had anything to do with this issue in any way shape or form.
Not going to happen is it. You want fries with that? |
Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
261
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Posted - 2012.07.06 06:34:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Well he (in particular) does need to answer the question I asked him first of course. I'm hardly likely to pay him the respect of giving him an answer while he's still dodging and wriggling the question I asked him first am I ? You mean this post? Jade Constantine wrote:Lapine Davion wrote: You really aren't all that special except for the La Maison stuff ... And the irony being your directors made up the "La Maison stuff" / allegations of RL prostitution / child pornography etc simply to try to smear an internet spaceship election campaign and try to lose an eve player their RL job. You guys went as far as creating fake websites, erotic fan fiction and a rl letter writing campaign - you were pretty damned serious about it. That's the allegation you're being asked to prove. Linking a site does nothing to prove that, unless you can prove the provenance. You allege the Following, long before you asked Zim any questions: 1) Goonswarm Directors created the following a) La Maison b) RL Prostitution/CP claims c) websites that purported to be under your control, including Erotic Fan Fiction d) administered a letter writing campaign 2) they did this with the intention to make your CSM campaign fail 3) they did this with the intention to make you lose your job TBH, I've seen no evidence that they created anything. They may be culpable in continued hosting of La Maison (whoever created it)*, but that's all I've ever seen you prove. *Hosting it's in poor taste if it's without any provenance (and I haven't really looked for any). PS: While I grant that someone else brought up La Maison, you are the only one who I've ever seen bring up references to RL prostitution/cp in any thread, and you did bring up (for no apparent reason, this purported GSF hatred of you) before that. All it would take to settle this horrible affair, would be for mittens to issue a statement saying that the goons have never had anything to do with this issue in any way shape or form. Not going to happen is it.
Because he understands where the burden of proof lies (Hint: It's with the Accuser). -RubyPorto
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Shawnm339
Galactic Shipyards Inc Soldiers Of New Eve
68
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Posted - 2012.07.06 07:45:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Lord Zim wrote: You're the accuser, provide proof. I'm asking you a question (its not a complicated one) answer it or not, public opinion will decide how credible you end up looking. Jade Constantine wrote: Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps? At this stage failing to answer and flailing madly with evasions just makes you look like you have something to hide or be guilty about. Just come clean, be honest and answer the question. I think public opinion at this point has got bored and is now reading another thread.......
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1153
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Posted - 2012.07.06 08:09:00 -
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I think public opinion at this point has got bored and is now reading another thread.......[/quote] What else is there to do when we blob SoCo so much they dock in a hurry.
Haha, Delve V is great. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2591
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Posted - 2012.07.06 13:47:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Jade Constantine wrote: wrote:Pipa Porto There you go, you've been asked by someone's main. Well he (in particular) does need to answer the question I asked him first of course. I'm hardly likely to pay him the respect of giving him an answer while he's still dodging and wriggling the question I asked him first am I ? You mean this post? (snipped)
Well obviously not, it was the one I actually linked Here I'll underline it for you
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedomInferno Wardecs - Shoot Goons for FREE $300,000 dollars :(-á |
Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.07.06 13:49:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Jade Constantine wrote: wrote:Pipa Porto There you go, you've been asked by someone's main. Well he (in particular) does need to answer the question I asked him first of course. I'm hardly likely to pay him the respect of giving him an answer while he's still dodging and wriggling the question I asked him first am I ? You mean this post? (snipped) Well obviously not, it was the one I actually linked Here I'll underline it for you
Posting in a Jade Constantine thread |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2591
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Posted - 2012.07.06 13:57:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote: All it would take to settle this horrible affair, would be for mittens to issue a statement saying that the goons have never had anything to do with this issue in any way shape or form. Not going to happen is it.
Hardly likely when Mittani is still knuckle-posting tweets like this one is it?
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedomInferno Wardecs - Shoot Goons for FREE $300,000 dollars :(-á |
Lord Zim
982
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Posted - 2012.07.06 14:20:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:All it would take to settle this horrible affair, would be for mittens to issue a statement saying that the goons have never had anything to do with this issue in any way shape or form. Actually, no, we don't have to do squat, because what Jade has come up with hasn't proven anything. He hasn't come up with any proof that gsf directors fabricated any websites, administered a letter writing campaign, fabricated websites purporting to be under jade's control (including erotic fan fiction), or even made any claims of RL prostitution, child pornography, child-sex abuse or being a pedo (or whatever it is he'll invent next). And the one thing he has come up with, which is on what can only be described as a severely shady source of questionable reliability, makes absolutely no allegations to any of these things, so god knows why he insists on repeatedly linking it and claiming it's proof that he has been accused of these things.
He has also made allegations that we've linked to sites which claim these things, I've yet to see any evidence of that whatsoever, on any count, despite making specific requests that he provide said evidence. In fact, the only one who keeps on saying he's been accused of any of these things, is jade himself, while linking to said shady site of questionable reliability, which is something he does at any opportunity he can get to make sure everybody knows he thinks he's been accused of these things.
Jade Constantine wrote:Hardly likely when Mittani is still knuckle-posting tweets like this one is it? I'm seeing absolutely no reference to RL prostitution, child pornography, child-sex abuse or being a pedo there. |
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
174
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Posted - 2012.07.06 14:24:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Always post with main.
Whats the point of pissing people off if they don't know who pissed them off?
Internet trolling; you fail at it. Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity. |
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Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
174
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Posted - 2012.07.06 14:25:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:What else is there to do when we blob SoCo so much they dock in a hurry.
Haha, Delve V is great.
Confirming goons love station games and high sec pvp mechanics. Confirming I love goons. Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity. |
Pahah Pahineh
Universal Ally
12
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Posted - 2012.07.06 14:25:00 -
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Mains get banned quickly (Forum moderators are simply incapable of unbiased moderation) Alts don't get banned for months and months of shitposting unless their mains get outed.
That's why. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1412
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Posted - 2012.07.06 14:31:00 -
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you are a
1) bad poster and/or a 2) coward poster |
Tsubutai
The Tuskers
104
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Posted - 2012.07.06 14:32:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:There are some people, however, who'll try every trick in the book to win an argument. You can argue as correctly as you'd like about f.ex something combat-related, but if the char you're on doesn't have multiple thousands of kills in the last months, they'll happily go "post with your main, or your arguments are null and void because you don't have combat experience on that char!". The thing is, many (most?) of the things that pass for discussions on eve-o relate to matters of opinion rather than fact or pure logic, and when you're evaluating the merits of someone's opinion, their background and related experience matter a lot. Suppose we were discussing an unresolved question of astrophysics - almost everyone would unhesitatingly accept that my opinion as Some Guy On The Internet would be worth a lot less than, say, Stephen Hawking's opinion as an extremely distinguished professor of physics. His opinion is valuable because it's going to be based on easily-demonstrated experience and expertise in the subject in question whereas mine is worth a lot less because it's based on a completely unknown (to you) body of experience/knowledge. |
5nake pliskan
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
8
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Posted - 2012.07.06 14:32:00 -
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because CCP banned everyone's main |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2591
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Posted - 2012.07.06 14:42:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote: snipped evasive nonsense
Answer the question I've been asking you for the last half dozen pages.
"Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past?"
(If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?) The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedomInferno Wardecs - Shoot Goons for FREE $300,000 dollars :(-á |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
16
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:50:00 -
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This thread is spending more time off-topic than on-topic. If it continues to stay off-topic there will be serious consideration to locking the thread.
Please, stay on topic.
ISD Tyrozan Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
208
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:54:00 -
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ISD Tyrozan wrote:This thread is spending more time off-topic than on-topic. If it continues to stay off-topic there will be serious consideration to locking the thread.
Please, stay on topic.
My henchmen will help re-rail this thread.
To my henchmen: Operation Drugged Rifter is a go. I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum.
I am the rightful heir to the CSM 8 throne.
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WMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWM WMWMWMWMWMWM
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:56:00 -
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cuz its fun when u no that no 1 nos who u are on the forums |
Longestnameyouveeverread inyourlifeha
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:57:00 -
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Nothin's wrong with altpostin', brah. |
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Taurich Vorsel
0
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:58:00 -
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Because my main was naughty :( Copine Callmeknau disappeared one day now we are left with Taurich Vorsel AKA BIZARRO COPE! |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
208
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:59:00 -
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Taurich Vorsel wrote:Because my main was naughty :(
ifyouknowwhatimean.jpg I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum.
I am the rightful heir to the CSM 8 throne.
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Lord Zim
982
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Posted - 2012.07.06 16:04:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Lord Zim wrote: snipped evasive nonsense I guess calling you out on your fallacious claims that we've made public claims that you've been a RL prostitute, involved in child pornography, child-sex abuse or being a pedo, is "evasive nonsense".
I grow weary of your constant evasion of the core of this issue, which is that whenever someone mentions "space brothel", "la maison" or the like, you spring forth with your crackerjax link and claiming that this, this is proof that we've sent you things to your workplace, fabricated websites which were purported to be under your control (including erotic fan fiction), called you a RL prostitute, involved in CP, child-sex abuse or being a pedo. And every time you're pushed on this, you completely ignore it.
Fact: This is a copy of the website you made. It is referenced from http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=794696. You confirmed that it had been copied from your server, you've made no claims that it was altered, and you're referencing something called the "elariel pleasure gardens security detail", whatever that is, plenty of references to "space-wine while being courted by my noble suiters" in http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=794696&page=2#48, and barely a "it's not actually a brothel you know..." in defense. That's the space brothel/la maison taken care of.
Now, provide proof we've publically accused you of being, and I'll quote you, "a RL prostitute, involved in child pornography, child-sex abuse or being a pedo". Actual proof, mind you.
Jade Constantine wrote:Answer the question I've been asking you for the last half dozen pages. How about you answer the questions which you're obligated to have the answer to, since you are the accuser?
Or, you could just do what you should've done a long time ago, and stop fabricating claims which you cannot prove. The only thing you're achieving with that is slandering your own name, repeatedly. |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
208
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Posted - 2012.07.06 16:07:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Lord Zim wrote: snipped evasive nonsense I guess calling you out on your fallacious claims that we've made public claims that you've been a RL prostitute, involved in child pornography, child-sex abuse or being a pedo, is "evasive nonsense". I grow weary of your constant evasion of the core of this issue, which is that whenever someone mentions "space brothel", "la maison" or the like, you spring forth with your crackerjax link and claiming that this, this is proof that we've sent you things to your workplace, fabricated websites which were purported to be under your control (including erotic fan fiction), called you a RL prostitute, involved in CP, child-sex abuse or being a pedo. And every time you're pushed on this, you completely ignore it. Fact: This is a copy of the website you made. It is referenced from http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=794696. You confirmed that it had been copied from your server, you've made no claims that it was altered, and you're referencing something called the "elariel pleasure gardens security detail", whatever that is, plenty of references to "space-wine while being courted by my noble suiters" in http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=794696&page=2#48, and barely a "it's not actually a brothel you know..." in defense. That's the space brothel/la maison taken care of. Now, provide proof we've publically accused you of being, and I'll quote you, "a RL prostitute, involved in child pornography, child-sex abuse or being a pedo". Actual proof, mind you. Jade Constantine wrote:Answer the question I've been asking you for the last half dozen pages. How about you answer the questions which you're obligated to have the answer to, since you are the accuser? Or, you could just do what you should've done a long time ago, and stop fabricating claims which you cannot prove. The only thing you're achieving with that is slandering your own name, repeatedly.
Sir, I have to ask you to calm down. This thread is about the question "Why do you alt post?" and not your unimportant forum war with some nonfactor entity. I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum.
I am the rightful heir to the CSM 8 throne.
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Lord Zim
982
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Posted - 2012.07.06 16:08:00 -
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Derp, misclick |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
775
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Posted - 2012.07.06 16:09:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:long argument snipped
Please read this Zim
ISD Tyrozan wrote:This thread is spending more time off-topic than on-topic. If it continues to stay off-topic there will be serious consideration to locking the thread.
Please, stay on topic.
This thread is not the place for your arguments and if it continues then the OP runs the risk of having his thread locked. Show a little respect. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
Lord Zim
982
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Posted - 2012.07.06 16:11:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:This thread is not the place for your arguments and if it continues then the OP runs the risk of having his thread locked. Show a little respect. Don't worry, I'm done with this. |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
208
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Posted - 2012.07.06 16:12:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:This thread is not the place for your arguments and if it continues then the OP runs the risk of having his thread locked. Show a little respect. Don't worry, I'm done with this.
My henchmen and I will make sure you are done with this. I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum.
I am the rightful heir to the CSM 8 throne.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
446
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Posted - 2012.07.06 16:13:00 -
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So, walls of text having nothing to do with this thread to say what?
Alt posting best posting and it creates frustration to some paranoid unsocial dudes, then it's OP success. WTH about some people with internet misplaced honour about main posting and crap alike? -those should get a life.
It's a space ship game, not Barbies On Line and as those should already know the old song: deal with it brb |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
208
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Posted - 2012.07.06 16:14:00 -
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doublepost I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum.
I am the rightful heir to the CSM 8 throne.
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