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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
418
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:48:00 -
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I like the way some are frustrated by the fact it's an alt posting, rage and tears collection: OP success brb |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
949
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:50:00 -
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The only time I posted with my alt (it is on the same account, I only have one) was when I first made him and couldn't figure out how to switch posting character |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
1367
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:54:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:I like the way some are frustrated by the fact it's an alt posting, rage and tears collection: OP success I like it how you need the self-validation of posting this multiple times. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Muhammad Hassan
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:56:00 -
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Because some nimrod banned me for a month after he got patootiepained/rumpravaged. |
Muhammad Hassan
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:56:00 -
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fuckin infidels |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
418
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Posted - 2012.07.04 22:03:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:I like the way some are frustrated by the fact it's an alt posting, rage and tears collection: OP success I like it how you need the self-validation of posting this multiple times.
And I love how that gets all your attention, don't feel frustrated for internet stuff Dude. Op success brb |
Bobo Cindekela
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.07.04 22:25:00 -
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alt posting is for being inflammatory without blow back to your main+mains corp. Some people can hold a grudge way to long, or get bent for just a few misconstrued words, it is 2012 afterall
you can also use them to ask sensitive questions without target painting your main You are about to engage in an arguement with a forum alt,-á this is your final warning. |
Acot Voth
State War Academy Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2012.07.04 22:35:00 -
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Main here. I think people alt for a few reasons. Fear, trolling, reputation preservation. |
Tore Vest
304
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Posted - 2012.07.04 22:49:00 -
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Alt here.... I use my main to mine veldspar in highsec No troll. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
471
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Posted - 2012.07.04 22:51:00 -
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I always main-post unless that character is sleeping off a forums-ban. Both toons are a different side of my "e-personality," Tarryn is generally calmer, more overtly rational, and less prone to emotive arguments/verbally chainsawing people in their meat-holes (hence the aforesaid bans) , whereas The Other, she don't give a ****!
But then, handsome Tarryn here isn't really an "alt" in the traditional sense (I play him now much more than my "co-main," and have for a while), so that aspect's also become a bit more nebulous.
Oh, and good sock-puppetry, it's an art-form! In irae, veritas. |
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George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2012.07.04 22:53:00 -
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I have no alts. All my characters are my main character.
Besides, when discussing on a forum, people should reply to the post/argument - not the avatar. It's the same RL person behind my arguments no matter what character I'm posting with anyway. "I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions Solid Foundation
174
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:07:00 -
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Because Jade Constantine and Issler Whatever got wardecked.
But seriously, mainly it's for ****-posting. Whenever someone wants to say something that they know will be really unpopular and they don't want it to reflect badly on their main character. Or when they just want to drop the N-word a lot. I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544 |
Zoe Athame
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
93
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:12:00 -
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I pretend this is my main so people don't know I'm a goon alt. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1225
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:15:00 -
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this is an alt
one that I actually use, but an alt nonetheless a rogue goon |
George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:19:00 -
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Wolodymyr wrote:Whenever someone wants to say something that they know will be really unpopular and they don't want it to reflect badly on their main character.
Sadly, this is the case for many forumers I'm afraid. Hiding behind an Internet avatar instead of posting as themselves. Quite pathetic actually... I guess it takes one to know one. With people being so skeptical about others posting with alts I mean...
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |
Garresh
Opposite of Low
8
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:22:00 -
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I main post pretty much all the time atm, but there was a time I alt-posted heavily, and I'll explain why.
I ran a solo w-space operation after just 6 months of first playing eve. I did have some allies, but not the kind with the skills or time to respond to any sort of offensive or invasion. Simply put, giving out my info on a character tied to my main would very likely be a death sentence, especially because the system I was in had fairly high value in today's market.
Furthermore, I do a lot of solo stuff and have pretty much made my entire post-wspace eve career in lowsec, as a solo player. When I'm discussing my tactics and strategy in depth, I alt post. It's just a security matter. |
ashley Eoner
21
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:58:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:You hear it all the time. "Post with your main". I know I do, and I have good reasons for doing so. The main one is building an "e-Personality". People know who I am, what I think, and what to expect from me -- and if they don't, it's easy to find out. It's also to help friends join discussions that are ongoing. "Check this out, I am actually Alt AbcXyz here" just seems like the wrong way to go about things. Plus, alts are not taken as seriously, even if their contribution to the discussion is perfectly valid.
So, with that in mind, I would like to ask: Why do you alt post? Or, if you main-post, why do you think others alt post?
Is it paranoia? Or, in more nasty terms, cowardice? Is in-game retribution for forum actions really that prevalent? Is the risk of some people not liking you that high? Or is it something else?
Discuss. (Sorry, couldn't help myself) Sometimes people labeled as "atls" really are mains... |
TheoS113nc3r
1Oth Legion Fretensis
0
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:16:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:CEO rules. Does not want unnecessary attention drawn to the corp.
I'm sure there a plenty of others that post for anonymity, high profile people Sewell. I can't come up with an instance where a post would draw bad attention to a corp would be a post that needs posting at all. Heh... I wonder if Chribba alt posts.
I think Chribba is a goon alt. |
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:25:00 -
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Alt posting is disgusting. |
Grandpa Bill
Twin Lakes Retirement Home
257
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:27:00 -
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Dont have any alts seein that the nursing home hardly lets me have much money on my card to have one account as it is. Enter in -áGrandpa Bill's Offical Raffle/ -áhttp://everaffle.blogspot.com/ |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
461
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:32:00 -
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ad hominem...
thats why PLEX FOR PIZZA! -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2582
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:49:00 -
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Kuehnelt wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:I doubt this happens, really. Goonswarm and other 0.0 alliances frankly don't care what you think of them, and they aren't going to get mad if you call them evil blobbers, devil spawn, or whatever creative (or not) insult you can come up with. We've heard it all before. Goons? Most other 0.0 alliances? Sure. Although the OP should be painfully aware of a wardec that Jade Constantine received. And I wouldn't doubt any level of utterly humorless vindictiveness from TEST. But if you're a small industrial corp with a POS and some newbies, it doesn't take a "Death Squad" program for someone to suddenly make the game exciting for you; 'one annoyed guy' might be enough. But my main reply to Petrus is just: sure, :effort: is competitive with alt-posting. Effort at being fair in your criticism, effort at framing your "lasers suck!" post as coming from the perspective of someone who's lost five Punishers to Rifters and is unhappy with his chances. Which just establishes a fifth reason to alt-post: it's easier. And also, again: it's safer - because even if you put the effort in, you can fail. You can fail to emphasize that your experience is with Punishers and Omens because you don't know that other laser boats are famously good; you can attempt mild criticism and be seen as someone who's just publicly shitting on his own alliance. I'd prefer good posting to two-facedness and pretentiousness, but two-faced and pretentious people really exist. I'm sure they make good use of alts.
Well the social consequence of a wardec from the Goons for being an enemy of their organization does exist. Its just a bit of a shame that the social consequences of being an unpopular large alliance no longer lead to plenty of defensive allies through the Inferno 1.0 wardec system.
I received perma-war from the Swarm for basically being their most hated player in the game bar none (mostly for not being impressed by Mittani's fanfest antics). Lucky for me my alliance has been in a constant state of war since its inception and my first instinct on receiving the dec was to make it mutual and lock them into an eternal war with hundreds of defensive allies!
But I do quite understand why people choose to post on alts when they want to protect an industrial corp or something. In the current state of the game it is extremely cheap and easy for a nullsec alliance to spam wardecs at your corp that you can do literally nothing to counter or end - so the outcome for most small industrial corps would be either needing to alt-post to protect their assets or accept that their assets will need to be relocated to alt organizations.
If you are a player who doesn't want to attract wardecs this makes sense.
On the other side of the coin you have the nullsec trolling motivation where alt posting is either done because the person's other forum accounts have already been banned - or to attempt to goad people's main attempts into mutual ban situations by hurling abuse and invective at people with identities they care about.
F.ex. If a particular nullsec character wanted to score a victory over you Petrus - they would roll up a random disposable forum alt and try to troll you into losing your head and getting involved in an angry flame war that could then be petitioned by the colleagues of said alt. Worst case scenario for the nullsec'er in this instance is he or she loses a worthless alt its posting privileges - whereas worst case for you is you lose a posting identity you might have spent years building up. Its forum pvp with rifters against faction frigates and the people doing it with alts have very little to lose.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedomInferno Wardecs - Shoot Goons for FREE $300,000 dollars :(-á |
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:49:00 -
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Because this was my first char and I was too lazy to pick another to post with? The purpose of hi sec isn't to eliminate PvP but to weed out the dumb pvpers.
My Blog-á (feedback welcome) |
Archie Benedict
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:02:00 -
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I always post with my main, unless I'm talking about my multi billion isk mission ships that I sometimes afk in 0.0 with, or I am shitting on my alliance. |
George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:03:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:George Whitebread wrote:Wolodymyr wrote:Whenever someone wants to say something that they know will be really unpopular and they don't want it to reflect badly on their main character. Sadly, this is the case for many forumers I'm afraid. Hiding behind an Internet avatar instead of posting as themselves. Quite pathetic actually... I guess it takes one to know one. With people being so skeptical about others posting with alts I mean... You do realize what you just said makes absolutely no sense unless you're so obsessed with Eve that you now consider it your real life. The reality is we're ALL hiding behind internet avatars instead of using our real names and addresses.
No. I don't realize that. My previous statement(s) makes perfect sense to me.
I don't know about you, but when I sign up on a discussion board, it's to discuss matters concerning the game (or whatever the board is supposed to cover). Playing this game is in fact part of my real life. My avatar is not, but I don't roleplay my forum identity either. George Whitebread is simply my online alias. All statements made by "him" is in fact me, the real person sitting behind the keyboard.
When you go to the store, or just are communicating in general with people you don't know in real life, you don't give away your curriculum vitae and your personal information from the get go there either. Most random and/or temporary encounters in real life are in fact done "anonymously" (disregarding your looks).
Just as I am the same person no matter what haircut I have or what clothes I wear from day to day, I'm the same person regardless of what avatar I'm using on the Internet.
An alias on the Internet is not going to alter my identity. I have only one. And the Internet is as real as on any other arena in which my life plays out. This silly fear of the "alt"-posters thus have to come from the very people that take on a purpose made identity tied to a character they, in one way or another, are roleplaying. Many of you don't roleplay EVE, but it seems like you roleplay the Internet...
If a one day old "alt" talks on the forums like he's been playing for several years and shows great understanding of this game, and have some strong opinions on a certain subject... Then he probably have some other character lying around labeled as "main". So what? It's the player behind the keyboard that have the gaming experience, not his avatars.
Back to the OP question: Why "alt" post? Well, I have different accounts/characters for different in-game purposes. I post with the account that happens to be logged on when I'm browsing the forums.
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |
Miss Yanumano
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:36:00 -
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God damn forums keeps logging in my alt as default, which itself is strange, due to both name and character creation being after my main, so I'm too lazy to change it, but I've posted on my main on occasion where I feel it's appropriate to respond to "post with your main" (very seldom, I am a lazy person after all) to just prevent anyone trying to argue dumb **** by using intellectual dishonesty or willful ignorance as a shield from reason or logic.
EDIT: Eris Discordia also struck down my dissidence regarding how good a certain Sci-Fi show is, and I'm afraid she'll come back and finish me off. |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
429
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Posted - 2012.07.05 02:46:00 -
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Because players use the alliance or corp you are in to pre-judge your comments on the forums.
There is only one location that your current corp or alliance matters and that is in CAOD. For the rest the comment of "post with your main" is a meaningless statement. EVERYBODY KNOWS |
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
221
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Posted - 2012.07.05 02:55:00 -
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I post with an alt, because my main account requires me to be respected by all of my customers. |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
288
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:06:00 -
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Why doesn't everyone post with their monkey? Post with your monkey. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1619
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:26:00 -
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This is my forum main. |
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