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Sybrea
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Posted - 2010.03.28 15:35:00 -
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Hey, Im wondering what would be a nice fit for a PvP Brutix. I fly in a small gang, and Ive seen many loadouts but im still a bit confused. If possible I want something relativley cheap, but that can still put out a decent bit of damage and not die really fast.
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Zhilia Mann
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Posted - 2010.03.28 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sybrea Hey, Im wondering what would be a nice fit for a PvP Brutix. I fly in a small gang, and Ive seen many loadouts but im still a bit confused. If possible I want something relativley cheap, but that can still put out a decent bit of damage and not die really fast.
Generally you have to compromise somewhere.
Having said that, I think this fits your criteria well enough:
[Brutix, it kills things] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II
Warp Scrambler II Invulnerability Field II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Hammerhead II x5
The problem is it's really not that fast (1075 m/s with my skills). And naturally, to properly melt a face you need to be able to get to it.
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MWDrive
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Posted - 2010.03.28 16:14:00 -
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brutix isnt a ship you will live in :)
[Brutix, New Setup 1] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Tracking Enhancer II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
you can replace LSE with point.. depending what kind of tackle you have in gang...
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Zhilia Mann
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: MWDrive edit: above fit... just a variation... around 30dps difference for 10k ehp... (if you put point on this one)... and a bit better range...
Anyone up for posting a triple magstab/TE/DC with a shield tank and electrons? We could totally go for the trifecta here.
(But for the OP: I think you get the basic idea, no?)
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MWDrive
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Zhilia Mann
Originally by: MWDrive edit: above fit... just a variation... around 30dps difference for 10k ehp... (if you put point on this one)... and a bit better range...
Anyone up for posting a triple magstab/TE/DC with a shield tank and electrons? We could totally go for the trifecta here.
(But for the OP: I think you get the basic idea, no?)
lol... i havent realized a fit was already posted... cause it was posted while i was writing my post...
and besides...
[Brutix, New Setup 1] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Tracking Enhancer II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Warp Scrambler II
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
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King Gore
Gore Squad
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Posted - 2010.03.28 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: King Gore on 28/03/2010 18:10:45 [Brutix, pvp plate] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II / EANM II (this will reduce dps to 704 but give 40%+ exp resist) Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Hammerhead II x5
16k raw armor hp (60k ehp) 772 dps
Range is something to be desired. - "He feeds exclusively off dead bodies. The Destroyer. The Flesh-Eater. When the murderer hides his victims, he likes to keep in physical contact with them. Conserving them. He is a psychopath. |

Zhilia Mann
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Posted - 2010.03.28 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: MWDrive lol... i havent realized a fit was already posted... cause it was posted while i was writing my post...
and besides...
[Brutix, New Setup 1] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Tracking Enhancer II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Warp Scrambler II
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
happy?
If for some reason you want to use electrons I'd actually rather swap the DC for a nano and rely on Null.
And/or go with my first instinct and get a Harbi:
[Harbinger, shieldharb] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Warp Disruptor II Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Invulnerability Field II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M [empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Valkyrie II x5
Sad but true: Harbi has more damage from about 2.8 times the range, is faster, is more nimble, and has a lower sig. Significantly more expensive though (at least until you factor in insurance). Even if the Harb switches to INMF it gets better range than the neutron+Null combination. The electron+Null.... It has more EHP?
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Sybrea
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Posted - 2010.03.28 18:25:00 -
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Well, since there is a Harbi fitt here, why don't we expand it, and see if anyone has a Cane fit. There's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake. |

Zhilia Mann
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Posted - 2010.03.28 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: King Gore 16k raw armor hp (60k ehp) 772 dps
Out of curiosity, which implants are you using on that thing? EFT is maxing out at 689 dps even when I include drones (which I haven't been doing above, and really, Hammers over Valks in PvP?).
Using my skills, no drones, and CNAM I'm getting:
- pvp plate: 498 at 1.4+3.6, 803 m/s
- shield electron fit (ok, using Null; this is the exception for reasons above): 446 at 4.1+5.8, 1176 m/s
- shield neutron fit: 631 at 2.5+7.8, 1075 m/s
I'll leave the ion fit alone for now; it's probably the most flexible (although the CPU on that thing is taxing).
Again, my skills; no implants.
Can you share what I'm missing?
Originally by: King Gore Range is something to be desired.
Which is why I recommended an electron setup with Null, a neutron setup with CNAM, and/or a Harbi with Scorch.
But draw your own conclusions.
(Oh, and for the OP: medium projectiles are the last skill I need to try out the 'Cane. Shouldn't be long now, but I don't feel qualified to comment on a ship I can't even fly properly. Chances are it's a good option though.)
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Khin'charin
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.03.28 19:54:00 -
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You're all doing it WRONG.
Quote: [Brutix, Lutix] Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
 _________________________________ More blood for the blood god. Eternal darkness to the infidels. |
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar Woe Hole
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:02:00 -
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it has an armour bonus so let's use a medium reppahahahahahapahpahpahpahPOKER FACE
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King Gore
Gore Squad
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: King Gore on 28/03/2010 21:16:09
Originally by: Zhilia Mann
Originally by: King Gore 16k raw armor hp (60k ehp) 772 dps
Out of curiosity, which implants are you using on that thing? EFT is maxing out at 689 dps even when I include drones (which I haven't been doing above, and really, Hammers over Valks in PvP?).
Using my skills, no drones, and CNAM I'm getting:
- pvp plate: 498 at 1.4+3.6, 803 m/s
- shield electron fit (ok, using Null; this is the exception for reasons above): 446 at 4.1+5.8, 1176 m/s
- shield neutron fit: 631 at 2.5+7.8, 1075 m/s
I'll leave the ion fit alone for now; it's probably the most flexible (although the CPU on that thing is taxing).
Again, my skills; no implants.
Can you share what I'm missing?
Originally by: King Gore Range is something to be desired.
Which is why I recommended an electron setup with Null, a neutron setup with CNAM, and/or a Harbi with Scorch.
But draw your own conclusions.
(Oh, and for the OP: medium projectiles are the last skill I need to try out the 'Cane. Shouldn't be long now, but I don't feel qualified to comment on a ship I can't even fly properly. Chances are it's a good option though.)
No implants/bonuses. I don't have a good character to base these skills off in EFT so I used the level 5 default. I know not great for comparison. The range issue can sort of be addressed with Null and a TE but that only leaves you with 4+6 falloff. I put in hammerheads for the most damage potential on EFT (unless thats been changed to reflect the actually usage of Valks). I haven't looked.
EANM + TE + Mag. Stab. + Null - Drones = 4.3+6.1 364 dps (+drones {valk}) 492 "" "" + CNAM - Drones = 1.7+4.9 456 dps (+drones {valk}) 585 874 m/s
3x Mag. Stab. + Null - Drones = 3.8+4.7 489 dps (+drones {valk}) 618 "" "" + CNAM - Drones = 1.5+3.8 614 dps (+drones {valk}) 742 874 m/s
Again, Level 5's, I know lol. But a plated/trimarked/3x mag stabbed brutix is pretty mean imo.
I hate using electrons but it almost seems like you need to if you want a decent tank.
EDIT: those are modified versions of the plate fit i posted. - "He feeds exclusively off dead bodies. The Destroyer. The Flesh-Eater. When the murderer hides his victims, he likes to keep in physical contact with them. Conserving them. He is a psychopath. |
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