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Eemil Kustaa
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:02:00 -
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The main thing i want to do in eve is pvp but i picked caldari, and it seems to me that i have to gimp my tank alot to fit a AB, web, and a scram especially on frigs. So can i have some tips to show what i'm doing wrong or if caldari is the wrong choice.
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Alt Tabbed
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:05:00 -
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Solo PvP Success
Pick any 2 when flying Calamari Ships.
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Eemil Kustaa
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:10:00 -
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That did not make to much sense to me.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Eemil Kustaa The main thing i want to do in eve is pvp but i picked caldari, and it seems to me that i have to gimp my tank alot to fit a AB, web, and a scram especially on frigs. So can i have some tips to show what i'm doing wrong or if caldari is the wrong choice.
Try leaving abbreviations a nubbin wouldnt know out, when trying to troll. Its ok tho, everyone has got to start somewhere. -
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:14:00 -
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You're doing it wrong. Caldari have their strengths and weaknesses like any other race. On frigates: take a Merlin, fit a micro aux power core, damage control and medium shield extender and bam. Tanked out frigate. That's just one example. Not going to go into much more detail, but the idea Caldari can't pvp (and indeed can't solo) is very old and very outdated. _________________________________
Originally by: Dodgy Past Can't see the Caldari approving of free love though.
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Eemil Kustaa
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:16:00 -
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Because u know rexthor its really hard to know what a AB is...
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Eemil Kustaa
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:23:00 -
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Thx for the reply Duchess i'll try it out.
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Moonduste
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:29:00 -
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Granted...it takes a lot of skills
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/22106-Manticore-with-T2-Siege-Launchers.html
But when that sucker comes out and nukes you for 9-13 K depending on your ship size with their alpha strike I think you will hold your tongue about caldari pvp.
As someone said, you can fit a Merlin to frig fight. Going up from there it all depends on what you want to do. Drakes are one of the scariest tacklers out there given how resilient than can be made to be, and with certain set ups do nice damage. In group pvp, the caldari ecm is amazing. Missile Snipers like Raven and Cerebus fail at solo pvp but in fleet pvp can be great (just stay in the back! otherwise you will be singled out) for targeting out enemy tacklers and ECW ships.
What people tend to forget is that while missiles rock in pve, they are no slouch in pvp. The main issues (delays in damage) are generall offset by not being able to miss. Even with taking reduced damage to escape velocities/explosion velocities, its generally much better than being in a situation that your battle ship simply cant hit the fast interceptor cause its moving to fing fast.
That said im no pvp expert.
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Eemil Kustaa
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.28 22:00:00 -
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I see what your saying but couldn't minmatar do the same except for the ECM?
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Smabs
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Posted - 2010.03.28 22:42:00 -
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Caldari can pvp just fine.
They only have a few standout solo ships, the drake and merlin being the obvious ones. You can make a lot of their other ships quite decent for solo pvp, although they don't quite have the lineup that minmatar or gallente have. But in small gangs stuff like HML/AML caracals, cerbs, drakes, ecm boats, ravens and so on are incredibly useful. So if you find yourself enjoying small gang combat then I'd say that caldari is a really good choice.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2010.03.28 23:25:00 -
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The idea that caldari can't pvp is horribly horribly old. And yet, it's still true. Caldari can't pvp. They're simply and utterly incapable. They're great at lots of things, I think, but pvp just isn't one of them.
Awesome ships though... Parrots, commence!
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Eemil Kustaa
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.29 01:02:00 -
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I was kinda hoping i was wrong about caldari.. but what is a good race to solo in?
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Denuo Secus
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Posted - 2010.03.29 01:51:00 -
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I flew all races until medium T2 and some large T2. And after all I came back to Caldari (mostly). What I learned was it's not important what's *best* atm. Rather you should like the flavor/style of the ships and try to master it. I like shields and missiles and ECM. I hate cap boosters and armor buffers. That's why I fly Caldari mostly.
I also fly some Gallente ships. But not because Gallente is top-notch (indeed I guess they aren't atm ^^)....it's because I like drones from time to time for some tasks.
As said in posts above there are very nice solo options for Caldari. Merlin, AML Caracal, Drake, Rook are the obvious ones. If you don't like cookie-cutter try some other more or less unorthodox fittings which can be fun. Blaster Harpy, Blaster Moa, Blaster Falcon (yip ^^), Neut-Torp-Rokh, Shield-Scorp...to name some. -
Save the missiles from the glowing blob :S
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Mimiru Minahiro
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Posted - 2010.03.29 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah The idea that caldari can't pvp is horribly horribly old. And yet, it's still true. Caldari can't pvp. They're simply and utterly incapable. They're great at lots of things, I think, but pvp just isn't one of them.
Awesome ships though...
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Cambarus
The Compass Reloaded
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Posted - 2010.03.29 02:08:00 -
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Caldari can pvp just fine, their main weakness lies in not being able to solo pvp very well, as they have only a few ships that can really do it. The rule generally posted on the forums is
Caldari Solo PVP Success
You get to pick 3 of those 4 things in eve.
Let's use the raven as an example (because the reasonning behind ECM ships not being good at solo but being good in gangs should be obvious)
The ship can put out more dps than a megathron at 10 times the range. Problem is, it can't fit its own tackle, MWD AND the painters required to do full damage without completely foregoing a tank. This means that unless you want to gimp your damage, you have to give up tackle, or any sort of tank. If, however, you can delegate the role of tackling to someone else, suddenly you've got a ship that can outperform most other BSs in terms of raw damage and tanking ability. |
Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.03.29 07:52:00 -
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Yeah, Caldari are the absolute worst at PvP, even moreso Solo PVP.
The Drake with full tackle is easily the best all around battle cruiser.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.29 08:01:00 -
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Hrmm lets see. Merlin: tanky little blaster frig that can actually survive tackling a ship and still deal usable dps as the gang warps to it. Blackbird: Hahahahaaaa u r jammed so wat cha gonna do now big boy? Raven: Oops did I just obliterate your ship in three torp volleys? This is just the three moast common caldari pvp ships and I'm sure pilots will poast other examples.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.03.29 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Alt Tabbed Solo PvP Success
Pick any 2 when flying Calamari Ships.
It was
Solo PVP Caldari
actually
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Moonduste
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Posted - 2010.03.29 13:41:00 -
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Torp Ravens are sick are generally far under estimated. Tackle Drakes are great. They have one of the nastiest stealth bomber types (most people like the hound, but it lacks the cpu to really do the thing I linked far above in this same thread).
In solo pvp, maybe not the best; in group pvp they are pretty amazing though.
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Denuo Secus
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Posted - 2010.03.29 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Raven: Oops did I just obliterate your ship in three torp volleys?
I can confirm this. Not in three volleys...but close. Happened recently (not by intention) during a test with corp mates on Sisi -
Save the missiles from the glowing blob :S
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Lt Angus
Caldari End Game.
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Posted - 2010.03.29 13:55:00 -
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Its been what 2-3 years now that caldari got got solo ability and this crap still comes up? please resize your signature to the maximum allowed file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers |
Skex Relbore
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Posted - 2010.03.29 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Angus Its been what 2-3 years now that caldari got got solo ability and this crap still comes up?
It's MMO whinning 101. The Race/class/shiptype/whatever you play is always the weakest and in need of a buff. All other race/class/shiptype/whatever are overpowered and need nerfing to bring things back into line.
While I'm on that subject Gallante suck please buff them, oh and Nerf squids they are OP as noted in this thread.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.29 14:37:00 -
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80% of my kills are with Caldari ships, 70% of that is solo PVP.
I got at least a 10:1 K:D ratio.
Caldari is just fine. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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ExplicitViolence
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Posted - 2010.03.29 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Eemil Kustaa ...seems to me that i have to gimp my tank alot to fit a AB...
Seems to me your use of Caldari ships may not be your largest worry?
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