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Linas IV
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Posted - 2010.03.31 15:19:00 -
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For all those who are interested in this, here is a comparison of current TQ and Sisi refining-values for the Different Drone-alloys
Tri | Pyr | Mex | Iso | Nox | Zyd | Meg | Morph ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Condensed 88 | 44 | 11 | (TQ Values) 160 | 40 | 9 | (Sisi Values)
Crystal | 39 | 2 | | 24 | 6 |
Precious | 7 | | 18 | | 128 | 24 | 14 |
Gleaming 299 | | 5 | 638 | | 2 |
Sheen 124 | 44 | | 23 | 1 | 512 | 106 | | 8 | 2 |
Lucent | 174 | 2 | 11 | 5 | | 192 | 48 | 13 | 2 |
Dark | 23 | 10 | | 32 | 8 |
Motley | 28 | 13 | | 40 | 9 |
Lustering | 88 | 32 | 35 | 2 | | 192 | 48 | 13 | 2 |
Plush | 120 | | 20 | | 18 | ~4200 |~1000| | 64 | | 4 |
Glossy | 4 | | 6 | | 194 | | 24 | | 1 |
Opulent | 2 | | 2 |
Excuse if there are any minor Typos, but most of the above values should be correct.
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Sendara Amarri
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Posted - 2010.03.31 16:20:00 -
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Oh look at that, an iso and nox nerf. That's a low-sec mining boost if I've ever seen one.
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Culmen
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.03.31 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Culmen on 31/03/2010 16:37:43 Plush compound is getting nerfed to hell. There goes the ultimate trit compression. Glad I invested in an out of corp freighter alt.
EDIT actually... i think you got the plush compound refine rates either reversed or outright wrong. Going to check that myself. and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Linas IV
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Posted - 2010.03.31 16:59:00 -
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No i justed checked it again, the values for Plush are right
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Skippermonkey
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Posted - 2010.03.31 17:02:00 -
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Looks ok to me?
Also you will have to allow time for prices to adjust to the removal of the minerals from loot drops to an extent.
Plenty more Trit from drones.
Or if i am totally wrong, please spell it out why thsi is bad?
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Linas IV
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Posted - 2010.03.31 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Linas IV on 31/03/2010 17:16:30 Oh right i got the wrong valus on plush, outdated database.
Its fixed now
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.03.31 17:53:00 -
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Culmen
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.03.31 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox How can plush be a trit compression when its raw?
because 1 m3 is easier to move then ~40m3 and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Sidrat Flush
Caldari Audit Services Inc
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Posted - 2010.04.01 00:04:00 -
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It looks like Plush compound is getting more trit not less, so how is this a nerf?
Good initial figures too for what is for many a rare occurrence.
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2010.04.01 11:47:00 -
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Ah hell, it's a holiday, have some actual numbers.
Tri | Pyr | Mex | Iso | Nox | Zyd | Meg | Morph ============================================================================ Condensed 88 | 44 | 11 | | | | | | (TQ Values) 160 | 40 | 10 | | | | | | (Sisi Values) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crystal | | 39 | 2 | | | | | | | 24 | 6 | | | | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Precious | 7 | | 18 | | | | | | 128 | | 8 | | | | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gleaming 299 | | | | 5 | | | | 768 | | | | 3 | | | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheen 124 | 44 | | 23 | 1 | | | | 512 | 128 | | 8 | 2 | | | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucent | 174 | 2 | 11 | 5 | | | | | 192 | 48 | 12 | 3 | | | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dark | | | 23 | 10 | | | | | | | 32 | 8 | | | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Motley | | | 28 | 13 | | | | | | | 40 | 10 | | | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lustering | | 88 | 32 | 35 | 2 | | | | | 192 | 48 | 12 | 3 | | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plush 3200 | 800 | | 20 | | 9 | | | 4096 |1024 | | 64 | | 4 | | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Glossy | | 210 | | 4 | | 3 | | | | 384 | | 24 | | 1 | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Opulent | | | | | | | 2 | | | | | | | | 2 |
Should be pretty obvious what we've done here - it's less "interesting" but way easier to balance. Trying to do this with the old values made it pretty much impossible to get the ratios where we wanted them, hence the change. (Also note I don't have access to the master spreadsheet right now, so some of the old numbers may be a little off; new ones I have here so should be accurate - unless something changed since this version was saved, of course.)
On top of this we also changed drop rates on Drone battleships. Average drop amounts start at 60 for the lowest drone and go up to 195 for the highest (linear progression; deadspace variants drop half). Drop ratios are around 1 opulent : 2 precious/condensed/gleaming/crystal* : 5 glossy : 8 plush. You can probably do the rest of the math yourselves from there
* Two of each
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rubico1337
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.04.01 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: rubico1337 on 01/04/2010 11:50:07
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Arkady Sadik
Minmatar Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.04.01 19:00:00 -
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That's 4:1 for all minerals from trit down to zyd, but 6:1 between zyd and meg. Is that intentional?
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.01 19:18:00 -
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So what i am seeing here is,
sharp decrease in nocx and isogen drops,
but an increase in the trit, pyerite and mexallon.
which from experience constitutes about 70% of the drone compound drops for most missions.
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Stafen
Killer Koalas
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Posted - 2010.04.01 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Arkady Sadik That's 4:1 for all minerals from trit down to zyd, but 6:1 between zyd and meg. Is that intentional?
I guess it is the best they could do.
Look at the glossy line, 24 Nox. 24/4/4 = 1.5 mega using 4:1 ratio
So the glossy should yield 1.5 mega. I guess they chose 1 rather than 2 to stop ark being too devalued. The only negative is that mega yielding roids will be priced a bit higher, but that is not a problem as they should be the most sought after roids.
As a side note, when ratting in drone regions you just chain the BS rats and only normally loot plush, glossy and opulent as they are the best isk/m3
From the given numbers you get 8 plush per 5 glossy. 8 plush yields 4096 * 8 = 32768 tri 5 glossy yields 384 * 5 = 1920 mex 32768 / 1920 = 17.1 which is close to the 'correct' ratio of 16:1
It will be interesting to see how the mineral prices swing to adjust, especially if the ores get changed too.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.04.01 20:09:00 -
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BUY ZYD BUY MEGA SELL MEX SELL ISOGEN
At least that's what I'm doing.
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Rakhon Narrit
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Posted - 2010.04.09 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit BUY ZYD BUY MEGA SELL MEX SELL ISOGEN
At least that's what I'm doing.
It's called speculation and let us hope you are right. :)
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