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fenistil
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Posted - 2012.07.05 12:36:00 -
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Dear Capsuleers,
I have decided that it is finally time to upgrade my PC. Unfortunately performance/money value is very important to me. Having a computer that runs at least 2 EVE clients very smoothly is a must.
The first question I would have is what sort of configuration you have got and what is your EVE experience with it on single and dual clients.
I am also clueless what sort of CPU to buy. AMD or Intel. Since AMD is somewhat cheaper for the same CPU benchmark value, I am considering it; however to reach the same score the CPU needs to have 2-4 more cores than an Intel CPU (which are always more expensive).
Since I know that EVE uses stackless python, an interpreted language thus limited to a single core, the question arises: is it worth having fewer but higher performance cores (Intel) than many smaller performance ones (AMD). Even though I guess EVE uses threads and process in the background (that can be parallelized and thus making many cores useful), I am no 100% sure.
When you run EVE, how many of your cores are being utilized by it of the total number of cores of your machine?
Also any advice what to pay attention to when building the machine is much appreciated. Memory, GPU, Mainboard, HDD etc..
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The Protato
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.05 12:41:00 -
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This sure looks like the right forum. |
Arline Kley
Galactic Rangers
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Posted - 2012.07.05 12:54:00 -
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my machine is a bit of a monster.
i7-2600k @ 3.4ghz 16GB DDR3 1666Mhz RAM ATi Radeon 5850 (the "weak" link)
I can easily run EVE at around 135fps, and with very little way of issues no matter I throw at it ; So far it survived playing Shogun 2, 2 EVE Clients and Killing Floor all at the same time with barely a hint over 45% CPU use and 50% RAM.
the flip side is that my rig is expensive - it cost nearly -ú1000 ($1555.34 / 196,969.06ISK)... Blessed are those that carry the Empress' Light; with it they destroy the shadows |
Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
146
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Posted - 2012.07.05 13:00:00 -
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Arline Kley wrote:my machine is a bit of a monster.
i7-2600k @ 3.4ghz 16GB DDR3 1666Mhz RAM ATi Radeon 5850 (the "weak" link)
I can easily run EVE at around 135fps, and with very little way of issues no matter I throw at it ; So far it survived playing Shogun 2, 2 EVE Clients and Killing Floor all at the same time with barely a hint over 45% CPU use and 50% RAM.
the flip side is that my rig is expensive - it cost nearly -ú1000 ($1555.34 / 196,969.06ISK)... May I stroke your e-peen? |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.05 13:00:00 -
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In terms of cpu then they're all quite adequate. A quad-core Intel cpu from 4-5 years ago is fine for running 3 clients here.
If you intend running two clients then I'd suggest 4 cores. The Eve client isn't in any way multiprocessor-aware but extra cores means background Windows/Mac/Linux processes are less likely to have an impact.
As far as graphics goes then it has to be NVidia for the simple reason that Eve uses PhysX for in-station characters - if a NVidia card/chipset is present. If you fit AMD (ATI) then it will use the cpu.
Its a minor thing if you don't care about the station eyecandy (I don't) but NVidia cards tend to have less "issues" in Eve, and they seem to get fixed faster.
As to gfx model - no idea, someone else can advise. |
Bubanni
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:47:00 -
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Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 980 @ 3.33GHz (12 CPUs), ~3.3GHz Memory: 12288MB RAM Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580
This is what I have - My fps is around 200-250 (when I don't have the thing on that limits it, or up to 900 when I set lowest graphics settings) |
Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:55:00 -
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Since you don't get too many responses yet, I'll leave my experience here. I run a home-built system that has grown over the years. So some parts are new, some parts are very old.
I'll list from oldest to newest: Asus M2N SLI-Deluxe motherboeard AMD Phenom II quad-core with something like 2.7 Ghz or so 8 GB DDR3 ram Geforce GTX 560 TI with 1 GB ram
So while the motherboard is from the last decade, the graphic card is pretty new and was not too cheap.
The system runs multiple EVE clients fine. Because of the new graphic card it also runs triple A shooters with best details and HD resolution. If you don't play those, you can go with a smaller card. I strongly advise buying a GeForce card though. As it already has been said, CCP has deals with nVidia and those cards simply work better with EVE.
An AMD processor will do fine. I currently (at work) don't know how the processor load with EVE is, but I don't think the game uses the processor and RAM to the full potential.
My OS (Win 7) is installed on a SSD, but the games are on a HDD.
In conclusion, you need a good (but not awesome) processor, 4 to 8 GB ram and a good GeForce card. Preferably a great GeForce card.
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Nikodiemus
Jokulhlaup
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Posted - 2012.07.05 15:16:00 -
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One thing to consider is GPU temp since CCP is so **** at their graphics implementation your temp will run higher than it should especially walking in station (though no good reason exists to do that anyway atm) but keep temp in mind and if you are building your own rig get a nice big case with lots of vents and some powerful fans. You won't regret that. |
Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
147
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Posted - 2012.07.05 15:38:00 -
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Nikodiemus wrote:One thing to consider is GPU temp since CCP is so **** at their graphics implementation your temp will run higher than it should especially walking in station (though no good reason exists to do that anyway atm) but keep temp in mind and if you are building your own rig get a nice big case with lots of vents and some powerful fans. You won't regret that. Yes, that's also a good point. After my old graphics card died during summer, I got a bigger case with 6 big (but silent) fans. Unfortunately that is still not enough cooling in the summer. Currently I let my case open because of that. |
Merik Sylvanus
NovaTech Universal Intersteller Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.05 16:44:00 -
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Nikodiemus wrote:One thing to consider is GPU temp since CCP is so **** at their graphics implementation your temp will run higher than it should especially walking in station (though no good reason exists to do that anyway atm) but keep temp in mind and if you are building your own rig get a nice big case with lots of vents and some powerful fans. You won't regret that.
I recently got a new UPS for my gaming machine, which happens to have an LCD display on the front that shows the wattage used. I run two EVE clients, and while out in space noticed my machine was drawing 277 watts.
I docked up and was amazed to see that while in the captain's quarters (i.e., walking in station), the power used jumped to 333 watts! When I switched to Hangar View, it dropped back down to 277.
All this time, when going AFK for dinner or whatever, I'd dock up in station and end up using MORE power since I used the default of WiS. Not anymore... |
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adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2012.07.05 16:59:00 -
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Lets make this simple.
Want to save money, intel. Idc how much it costs... it is like buying a car that gets 10mpg vs 20 mpg. The amd is going to use a ton more power while doing less work.
Think new car power vs old 50s. Sure they sound good but in a race a new hondas gona beat that stock v8.
The amd chips suck... AMD came out and said they gave up fighting intel because intel won. Why buy the loser?
Next is get good parts...
You leave no budget, location, etc. So what do you want?
i5 3570k (no need for an i7 should last you a long time) 670 (no need for a top top end but this will also last you a long time) 16 gig ram (so cheap why not, nothing loading into the page file = zip zip + prefetching FTW)
Also you don't get "powerful" fans... wow... you get large, low RPM fans... Also overheatin guy... WTB better GPU... Ya I run with out AC so far... 90F ambient temps with a 470 (needs a small power plant to run) NO heat issues 2x eves and not that I use WIS but no issue with WIS.
Called dust might want to clean the **** out. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
216
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Posted - 2012.07.05 17:00:00 -
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Merik Sylvanus wrote:Nikodiemus wrote:One thing to consider is GPU temp since CCP is so **** at their graphics implementation your temp will run higher than it should especially walking in station (though no good reason exists to do that anyway atm) but keep temp in mind and if you are building your own rig get a nice big case with lots of vents and some powerful fans. You won't regret that. I recently got a new UPS for my gaming machine, which happens to have an LCD display on the front that shows the wattage used. I run two EVE clients, and while out in space noticed my machine was drawing 277 watts. I docked up and was amazed to see that while in the captain's quarters (i.e., walking in station), the power used jumped to 333 watts! When I switched to Hangar View, it dropped back down to 277. All this time, when going AFK for dinner or whatever, I'd dock up in station and end up using MORE power since I used the default of WiS. Not anymore...
The simple reason for that is that station environment has a hell of a lot more detail/textures/shading/lighting than space. CQ is worse as you'll either be using PhysX (NVidia cards) or cpu (AMD cards) to render the character detail.
Turn off station environment and listen to the fans throttle down - you know it makes sense :)
CCP may be not the best at gfx implementation but there's a reason why the power draw increases. |
Cid Tazer
The Green Cross Red Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.05 17:03:00 -
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o7 fen. . . . . it all depends on your budget. I was able to run 2x clients on a Core 2 Duo E8600. So you don't need a ton of processing power.
I've had great luck with an I5-2500K with 16GB of RAM and a GTX-275 graphics card.
You could probably be fine with a low end I5 and 4-8GB of RAM and a mid |
fenistil
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Posted - 2012.07.16 12:37:00 -
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Thank you people for your responses!
It all was very helpful and I have a good idea which direction to go to. Some of you have some crazy powerhouse at home for gaming, my budget is not that high. Even though the AMD CPUs have lower performance/core it is compensated with the price and the number of the cores so I believe I will go with AMD.
As for graphics cards go, I still have not made up my mind... I am thinking on the price range of about 300 dollars..
Thanks once again! http://defp.co.cc/recruitment |
Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:23:00 -
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fenistil wrote:Thank you people for your responses!
It all was very helpful and I have a good idea which direction to go to. Some of you have some crazy powerhouse at home for gaming, my budget is not that high. Even though the AMD CPUs have lower performance/core it is compensated with the price and the number of the cores so I believe I will go with AMD.
As for graphics cards go, I still have not made up my mind... I am thinking on the price range of about 300 dollars..
Thanks once again!
Best thing you could do for multiple clients is to get a shedload of memory. You can get more than you will ever need in it's lifetime (About 16-20Gb) for the cost of a single 1-,15 TB HDD, and I'd say even12Gb of RAM will be more than enough. So, don't cut corners with RAM, as it is comparitively dirt cheap (~25e x 4GB).
I'd also suggest getting an Nvidia card. Say, a GTX 560 TI 448 core version if you can find any, would probably be great - should cost about 300 euros/dollars I believe, depending on manufacturer. Nvidia just because I keep hearing about ATI cards having a headache over physics simulation / Nvidia PhysX enabled games such as EVE. Granted this is all a couple of years ago, so could be they've improved since. |
Demolishar
United Aggression
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:37:00 -
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I use Q6600, 4GB RAM and GTX 260. I can run 2 clients at max settings, 4 at low settings. I'd need more RAM if I wanted more than 4 (Realistically I'd just get a cheap second hand PC and run them both at once) |
fenistil
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:12:00 -
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Yes, I have also noticed that the amount of memory and the speed of the memory increases performance greatly.. The less the process need to touch the virtual memory (HDD), the smoother it runs. I will not stop at 8GB of memory for sure, lets see how much the motherboard supports :)
Even though there are tons of memory for cheap, is it worth to buy the cheaper version of them? I know that the MHz the memory is ticking on is one of the measurable properties that indicates the speed of the memory, what else to watch out for?
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:17:00 -
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Regarding CPU:
If you buy a dual-core-machine you can set one client to one cpu and the second client to the second CPU.
EvE runs singlethreaded and actually performs better if pinned onto a specific CPU. (don't pin to a virtual one)
Use Intel and nVidia. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Fidelium Mortis
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.07.16 19:54:00 -
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fenistil wrote:Yes, I have also noticed that the amount of memory and the speed of the memory increases performance greatly.. The less the process need to touch the virtual memory (HDD), the smoother it runs. I will not stop at 8GB of memory for sure, lets see how much the motherboard supports :)
Even though there are tons of memory for cheap, is it worth to buy the cheaper version of them? I know that the MHz the memory is ticking on is one of the measurable properties that indicates the speed of the memory, what else to watch out for?
Just make sure you're running a 64bit operating system if you have more than 4GB of memory. A 32 bit OS will not recognize additional memory above 4GB (roughly).
Personally, I've found 8GB to be the sweet spot, unless your computer needs to do some heavy number crunching outside of gaming.
Any quad core chip made within the last 3 years or so will be more than enough to handle EVE. Although it does help to get a chip that is clocked over 3.2 GHZ, especially if you don't plan on overclocking the processor. I have machines running EVE on both AMD and Intel chips and it really doesn't make a difference in performance as long as the clock speed is reasonably high. AMD chips tend to be a better value, especially the 3 core Phenom II, which has a decent chance to be unlocked into a fully functional quad core processor (and overclocked to boot!).
A good entry level video card to run at 1900x1080 is the NVIDIA GTX 460 or ATI HD 7770. They won't allow you to turn everything up to max, but they will give you respectable frame rates with medium detail. Of course you can dump more money into this as needed, although the latest high end cards are overkill. For instance the experience on a single monitor with all settings maxed at 1200x1080 on a $300 GTX 570 will be virtually the same as a $600 GTX 680. ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.16 19:57:00 -
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5 clients running on one machine, alienware pc desktop Aurora. max graphics with all running at once is smooth and no hangups. 4 monitors, 2 graphics cards SLI compatible but SLI turned off for 4 monitors. |
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ashley Eoner
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Posted - 2012.07.16 20:35:00 -
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fenistil wrote:Dear Capsuleers,
I have decided that it is finally time to upgrade my PC. Unfortunately performance/money value is very important to me. Having a computer that runs at least 2 EVE clients very smoothly is a must.
The first question I would have is what sort of configuration you have got and what is your EVE experience with it on single and dual clients.
I am also clueless what sort of CPU to buy. AMD or Intel. Since AMD is somewhat cheaper for the same CPU benchmark value, I am considering it; however to reach the same score the CPU needs to have 2-4 more cores than an Intel CPU (which are always more expensive).
Since I know that EVE uses stackless python, an interpreted language thus limited to a single core, the question arises: is it worth having fewer but higher performance cores (Intel) than many smaller performance ones (AMD). Even though I guess EVE uses threads and process in the background (that can be parallelized and thus making many cores useful), I am no 100% sure.
When you run EVE, how many of your cores are being utilized by it of the total number of cores of your machine?
Also any advice what to pay attention to when building the machine is much appreciated. Memory, GPU, Mainboard, HDD etc..
Actually the first thing you should do is setup a budget because computers are just like racing. How much you got depends on how fast you can go.
Eve will run on about anything that isn't a decade out of date. I run a client fine on my "server" which is just an e4400 (12 bucks ebay) OCed to 2.7ish ghz (OCed 1066 FSB) with 4gb of ddr3 and an intel GMA x4500 integrated GPU for graphics. 500GB SATA for games/OSes along with various older IDE drives. Runs SWTOR rift and even terra well at various graphics settings. Runs eve pretty well on medium settings at 1280x1024. When running games I boot it into a 32bit XP install.
My main machine is years old but still working fine it's an e7200 OCed to 3.2ghz with 4gb of ddr2 (OC 1600mhz) an asus xonar sound card a 5770(1gb) OCed by a bit with a speedy 1TB drive for system/games. Runs eve on high settings at 1920x1200 and 1280x1024 (dual monitor setup). I usually run one client on each screen in window mode but sometimes I'll run a third with the settings for that client set to memory. Runs win 7 pro 64 bit.
I highly recommend you consider getting a sound card if you are an audiophile or if you run a very good stereo/headphone setup. I output my computer into a vintage stereo receiver with the A channel powering two floor standing three way speakers with 12" woofers while the B channel feeds a signal into an old(talking 90s A/B regulated) PPI powerclass PC2150 amplifier which powers an alpine type R 12 in a sealed enclosure. The PPI amplifier is powered by a 650 watt PSU that I rebuilt myself with some upgraded components. Switching from on board sound to the asus Xonar was like night and day when it came to frequency response (flatter and extends farther) and overall music itself sounds much more alive and punchier.
I build computers to supplement my repair income and I can honestly say right now Intel has the bang for the buck over AMD but NVidia and ATI are neck and neck. Ignore the folks that pops in to scream how NVIDIA RULES ATI SUCKS or vise versa because they are just mindless fanboys not interested in helping you get the biggest bang for the buck but instead are invested in their "team".
EDIT : I've ran eve on about every machine I build as part of my testing. I've ran it on everything from one of the new pentium G series processors to an ivy bridge i7 (triple graphics card beast) along with a varied mix of graphics cards and I can say solidly that ATI cards preformed just as expected with Eve and I NEVER noticed high temps when running eve. So I have no idea what is up with all the fanboys in this thread but they aren't helping. Now as for the ones that mentioned temperature issues I'd suggest you either buy a better case or make a habit to thoroughly clean your computer at least once every two weeks. |
Quaaid
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.07.16 21:54:00 -
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If it is only for a handful of accounts just go with as good of Quad Core CPU as you can with 8 gigs of RAM and GPU that meets your personal performance criteria. You can get all of that easy well shy of 1k. If you care less about graphics and more about performance then skimp a bit on the GPU in favor of CPU. AMD is fine all around. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2012.07.16 22:11:00 -
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If you lack money but have time go AMD + ATI - used to use it for quite some time when I went to to Uni and was chronically short on cash.
After that, I soon switched to intel/nvidia as I lacked time and motivation to investigate random crashes just to save a few bucks. No problems ever since and I'd never go back gain.
- If you're poor, have a basic clue and plenty of time, go AMD. - If you have some clue, a little money surplus and little time/nerve to fix issues, go intel (Windows). - If you don't have a clue, don't care about money and want your system idiot-proof, go intel (Mac OS). You know... morons. |
Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
68
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Posted - 2012.07.16 22:13:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote: Ignore the folks that pops in to scream how NVIDIA RULES ATI SUCKS or vise versa because they are just mindless fanboys not interested in helping you get the biggest bang for the buck but instead are invested in their "team".
EDIT : I've ran eve on about every machine I build as part of my testing. I've ran it on everything from one of the new pentium G series processors to an ivy bridge i7 (triple graphics card beast) along with a varied mix of graphics cards and I can say solidly that ATI cards preformed just as expected with Eve and I NEVER noticed high temps when running eve. So I have no idea what is up with all the fanboys in this thread but they aren't helping.
Like people have said, the processor will have to do the physics calculations if you're using an ATI card. If you have multiple cores (think four is a standard nowadays) and a high end processor, then yeah, that helps. Still, a modern Nvidia card will have ~380 cuda cores or more and it will have dedicated physics processors. Why would you insists doing things the hard way? Just so you can call anyone who disagrees "a mindless fanboy?"
I mean it's all the same to me what card you use, but it's pretty much a proven fact that CCP & Nvidia have somesort of partnership between them, and to the OP EVE is the critical app they want to run - then perhaps he or she should choose an Nvidia card. Sure it can be done on an ATI card, but again - why make things harder for oneself just to be a special snowflake? |
Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.07.16 22:27:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:If you lack money but have time go AMD + ATI - used to use it for quite some time when I went to to Uni and was chronically short on cash.
After that, I soon switched to intel/nvidia as I lacked time and motivation to investigate random crashes just to save a few bucks. No problems ever since and I'd never go back gain.
- If you're poor, have a basic clue and plenty of time, go AMD. - If you have some clue, a little money surplus and little time/nerve to fix issues, go intel (Windows). - If you don't have a clue, don't care about money and want your system idiot-proof, go intel (Mac OS).
I've never heard anything good about running eve on a MAC OS.
Just sayin. I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
1684
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Posted - 2012.07.16 22:53:00 -
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Rath Kelbore wrote: I've never heard anything good about running eve on a MAC OS. Just sayin.
Hmm - yeah - that last bit was a more general notion.
However, the fact you heard nothing good about Eve on Mac OS may relate to the fact that except some very old, nerdy apple II veterans, apple users today usually are computer-illiterates just barely managing to click a yes button when prompted. You know... morons. |
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
63
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Posted - 2012.07.16 23:48:00 -
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I am part of that group that hate compatibility issues, so I subscribe to the more common setups are the safer ones rule. CCP have made it very clear that they side with NVidia, and more people seem to run Intel. I also believe Windows 7 is the most common OS. The only issues I have had are minor graphical ones probably from my GT 8800 which is about 6 years old, and I most likely will replace it with a 560 which is a very popular card. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1494
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Posted - 2012.07.17 00:28:00 -
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fenistil wrote:Dear Capsuleers,
I have decided that it is finally time to upgrade my PC. Unfortunately performance/money value is very important to me. Having a computer that runs at least 2 EVE clients very smoothly is a must.
The first question I would have is what sort of configuration you have got and what is your EVE experience with it on single and dual clients.
I am also clueless what sort of CPU to buy. AMD or Intel. Since AMD is somewhat cheaper for the same CPU benchmark value, I am considering it; however to reach the same score the CPU needs to have 2-4 more cores than an Intel CPU (which are always more expensive).
Since I know that EVE uses stackless python, an interpreted language thus limited to a single core, the question arises: is it worth having fewer but higher performance cores (Intel) than many smaller performance ones (AMD). Even though I guess EVE uses threads and process in the background (that can be parallelized and thus making many cores useful), I am no 100% sure.
When you run EVE, how many of your cores are being utilized by it of the total number of cores of your machine?
Also any advice what to pay attention to when building the machine is much appreciated. Memory, GPU, Mainboard, HDD etc..
I have an i7 3930k, Asus extreme9 mobo, 32gb of gskill ddr, a single (for now) 4gb gtx680, two 240gb OCZ SSDs and a built in ***** extender.
It runs Eve ok.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
ashley Eoner
24
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Posted - 2012.07.17 01:22:00 -
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Teinyhr wrote:ashley Eoner wrote: Ignore the folks that pops in to scream how NVIDIA RULES ATI SUCKS or vise versa because they are just mindless fanboys not interested in helping you get the biggest bang for the buck but instead are invested in their "team".
EDIT : I've ran eve on about every machine I build as part of my testing. I've ran it on everything from one of the new pentium G series processors to an ivy bridge i7 (triple graphics card beast) along with a varied mix of graphics cards and I can say solidly that ATI cards preformed just as expected with Eve and I NEVER noticed high temps when running eve. So I have no idea what is up with all the fanboys in this thread but they aren't helping. Like people have said, the processor will have to do the physics calculations if you're using an ATI card. If you have multiple cores (think four is a standard nowadays) and a high end processor, then yeah, that helps. Still, a modern Nvidia card will have ~380 cuda cores or more and it will have dedicated physics processors. Why would you insists doing things the hard way? Just so you can call anyone who disagrees "a mindless fanboy?" If you're using an nvidia card then part of it's processor is used up calculating the physx so in the end you're either sacrificing some CPU or some GPU cycles. Just because NVidia is involved doesn't mean that suddenly physx runs for free. I've known people in the past who used an old nvidia card just for the physx (the difference wasn't worth the effort). People have already been proclaiming all over this thread that eve doesn't hit the CPU very hard at all. So think about what you're trying to argue for a moment.
Quote:I mean it's all the same to me what card you use, but it's pretty much a proven fact that CCP & Nvidia have somesort of partnership between them, and to the OP EVE is the critical app they want to run - then perhaps he or she should choose an Nvidia card. Sure it can be done on an ATI card, but again - why make things harder for oneself just to be a special snowflake? Harder? How? Do you actually know how little of a difference physx makes? Have you developed with it? You're advocating that you're making it harder on yourself even if you're buying the superior performing card because it doesn't have a nvidia label? Really?
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Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
68
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Posted - 2012.07.17 12:33:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:.......
Did an Nvidia employee drive over your dog or something? You seem disproportianetly upset about people suggesting the OP to take an Nvidia card. Just curious why that is. You haven't even suggested an ATI card for the OP to get as far as I can see, being busy making fun of my post.
But okay. Fiddling around with this tool actually looks like 560 Ti is great value for money (ca. $230 on Amazon). Of course those figures in the site are all just reported manufacturer numbers and there are other things to consider for game performance than just GPU, but the specs seem to be (if at times marginally I admit) superior to anything but the top of the line ATI cards, and certainly in the mid-price range it is one of the best cards out there. Note, I don't have the time nor patience to price check and compare every card on the list, so you're free to prove me wrong if you do have these qualities I lack. |
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