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Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.06 18:30:00 -
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Ohh Yeah wrote:Lucy Ferrr wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Lucy Ferrr wrote:lol you guys set so many people blue, the only thing left to bomb is your own capitals? 2) The SoCo has pretty much died at this point, and never undocks. So you 'beat' an alliance half your size, and now that's it for targets? SoCo won't undock and get blobbed 4 to 1, so you are completely out of targets And they're all forced to post with alts on the forums rather than their mains a humiliating defeat
I have no affiliation with SoCo. I am in a little 20 or so man NPC nul corp. I post with an alt so my corp mates don't get blobbed by your 400+ man gangs, simply because I call you guys out for the cowards you are. And oh boy are you guys cowards. If TEST (the second biggest alliance in EVE) was really looking for 'gudfites' they would set red Goons (the largest alliance in EVE). You can't claim you want 'gudfites' when you have the majority of PvP players in the game set blue. You are looking to curb stomp smaller forces into the ground to make your killboard look good and grow your e-peen. Not only are you two the biggest alliances in the game, you are the two biggest alliances by some margin. But TEST would never set Goons red, because Goons would wipe the floor with TEST. It wouldn't even be a fight, Goons would destroy TEST so fast it'd make your head spin. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1790
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Posted - 2012.07.06 18:38:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:
I have no affiliation with SoCo. I am in a little 20 or so man NPC nul corp. I post with an alt so my corp mates don't get blobbed by your 400+ man gangs, simply because I call you guys out for the cowards you are. And oh boy are you guys cowards. If TEST (the second biggest alliance in EVE) was really looking for 'gudfites' they would set red Goons (the largest alliance in EVE). You can't claim you want 'gudfites' when you have the majority of PvP players in the game set blue. You are looking to curb stomp smaller forces into the ground to make your killboard look good and grow your e-peen. Not only are you two the biggest alliances in the game, you are the two biggest alliances by some margin. But TEST would never set Goons red, because Goons would wipe the floor with TEST. It wouldn't even be a fight, Goons would destroy TEST so fast it'd make your head spin. But that won't ever happen, because we all know TEST gives the best reacharounds, and the Goons love them for it.
You have absolutely no idea how the CFC works, not even in the most remote sense. Quite a few things you mentioned are specifically the opposite of true. For example, did you know that TEST has a wall of shame on our killboard, but no equivalent celebration of nice kills? We tend to publicly shame people and boot them from the alliance if they care too much about K/D and killmails. "LeetPvP" and the CFC DO NOT MESH WELL.
Also, Goon-TEST relations go mostly like this.
From the look of things, you're just some member of some irrelevant corp who likes to puff their chest and pretend their actions influence the gameplay of others. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1253
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Posted - 2012.07.06 18:43:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:I have no affiliation with SoCo. I am in a little 20 or so man NPC nul corp. I post with an alt so my corp mates don't get blobbed by your 400+ man gangs, simply because I call you guys out for the cowards you are. And oh boy are you guys cowards. If TEST (the second biggest alliance in EVE) was really looking for 'gudfites' they would set red Goons (the largest alliance in EVE). You can't claim you want 'gudfites' when you have the majority of PvP players in the game set blue. You are looking to curb stomp smaller forces into the ground to make your killboard look good and grow your e-peen. Not only are you two the biggest alliances in the game, you are the two biggest alliances by some margin. But TEST would never set Goons red, because Goons would wipe the floor with TEST. It wouldn't even be a fight, Goons would destroy TEST so fast it'd make your head spin.
so you're saying that TEST should set us red
and then you tell us exactly why it'd be a bad idea a rogue goon |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1253
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:00:00 -
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can't wait for all of the "goons batphoned CCP to nerf bombs because bombs were supposed to work that way" threads though a rogue goon |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
21
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:20:00 -
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Regardless how I feel about the Goon or Test, the invasion of delve was a good strategy. Those crying about the Swarm Empire need to adapt and reorganize, before they do conquer EVE fulfilling the BoB mandate. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:22:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:can't wait for all of the "goons batphoned CCP to nerf bombs because bombs were supposed to work that way" threads though
Anyone who thinks this would have been very, very sad when the first all-bomber CFC fleets started forming. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
225
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:32:00 -
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Pretty cool vid, thanks for sharing. Bring your possibles. |
Internet Lawyer Steve
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:03:00 -
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A couple of questions for CCP.
Since this is a known bug and its being exploited, as seen in the video, Why are the offenders not being banned and Why is this thread still open?
Its always been your policy to lock threads that exploit broken game mechanics, yet you let this thread live.
TL;DR
Ban OP, Ban members of bombing run, Nuke thread.
Internet Lawyer Steve and Associates,
Bringing Justice to New Eden, One post at a time... |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1795
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:07:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:A couple of questions for CCP.
Since this is a known bug and its being exploited, as seen in the video, Why are the offenders not being banned and Why is this thread still open?
Its always been your policy to lock threads that exploit broken game mechanics, yet you let this thread live.
TL;DR
Ban OP, Ban members of bombing run, Nuke thread.
The targets were friendly in the videos.
It has not been knowingly utilized on the field (very intentionally on the CFC's part).
The only times it has been used were most likely unintentional, as AAA never truly abused it. However their bombing runs that should have failed hilariously (different bomb types / 25 bombers in a single run) did end up working because of this bug. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Tore Vest
304
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:14:00 -
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I missed this No troll. |
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Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
265
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:16:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:A couple of questions for CCP.
Since this is a known bug and its being exploited, as seen in the video, Why are the offenders not being banned and Why is this thread still open?
Its always been your policy to lock threads that exploit broken game mechanics, yet you let this thread live.
TL;DR
Ban OP, Ban members of bombing run, Nuke thread.
It's been ninjafixed genius. (Partially, bombing doesn't work at all now :CCP:) |
Tony Two Bullet
Monocle Madness The Mockers AO
106
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:30:00 -
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Crazy! CEO-á Monocle Madness ~ Mega-Insane Lotteries for the Mentally Unstable http://www.monoclemadness.com |
Freezehunter
200
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:37:00 -
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Reminds me of Mythbusters in a weird way.
I like it. Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
131
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:56:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote: You are looking to curb stomp smaller forces into the ground to make your killboard look good and grow your e-peen.
No, they're looking for fights they can win because otherwise the coalition dies of boredom.
This is the way the game's designed. The larger beat up on the smaller, numbers are numbers.
If you don't like that, you're a fool to pay for this. |
Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
163
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Posted - 2012.07.06 21:04:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:A couple of questions for CCP.
Since this is a known bug and its being exploited, as seen in the video, Why are the offenders not being banned and Why is this thread still open?
Its always been your policy to lock threads that exploit broken game mechanics, yet you let this thread live.
TL;DR
Ban OP, Ban members of bombing run, Nuke thread.
Are you really this dumb? |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1258
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Posted - 2012.07.06 21:23:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:A couple of questions for CCP.
Since this is a known bug and its being exploited, as seen in the video, Why are the offenders not being banned and Why is this thread still open?
Its always been your policy to lock threads that exploit broken game mechanics, yet you let this thread live.
TL;DR
Ban OP, Ban members of bombing run, Nuke thread.
They blew up two blue carriers, with their consent, simply for the sake of having the distinction of being the first to kill a carrier with bombs. It'd be very different if we had blown up hostile triage carriers repping a tower or some sov structures or whatever with the same tactic, but at the end of the day nobody knowingly used it to gain an insurmountable advantage over other players.
I suspect that the SoCo guys who pulled off "awesome bombing runs" were totally oblivious to the fact that they would have failed hilariously if they were doing those bombing runs under pre-Inferno conditions. a rogue goon |
Rats
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2012.07.06 21:31:00 -
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Awsome
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |
Alain Kinsella
121
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Posted - 2012.07.07 04:25:00 -
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I have to admit, that was very, very cool. :-) Comments based on the US anthem was even better.
Would have been more fitting if you had tried that last Wed though (or Tues over here - geez, fireworks rattled the house).
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
117
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Posted - 2012.07.07 05:08:00 -
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that is one of the best looking things I have seen in eve, mayhaps make this a feature ccp? |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
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Posted - 2012.07.07 05:58:00 -
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Luba Cibre wrote:Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:A couple of questions for CCP.
Since this is a known bug and its being exploited, as seen in the video, Why are the offenders not being banned and Why is this thread still open?
Its always been your policy to lock threads that exploit broken game mechanics, yet you let this thread live.
TL;DR
Ban OP, Ban members of bombing run, Nuke thread.
Are you really this dumb? You have to ask? |
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Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
163
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Posted - 2012.07.07 05:59:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Luba Cibre wrote:Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:A couple of questions for CCP.
Since this is a known bug and its being exploited, as seen in the video, Why are the offenders not being banned and Why is this thread still open?
Its always been your policy to lock threads that exploit broken game mechanics, yet you let this thread live.
TL;DR
Ban OP, Ban members of bombing run, Nuke thread.
Are you really this dumb? You have to ask? No not really...it was more like an hidden insult. |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
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Posted - 2012.07.07 06:00:00 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:that is one of the best looking things I have seen in eve, mayhaps make this a feature ccp? CCP doesn't implement features, they only create more bugs and exploits. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1807
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Posted - 2012.07.07 06:06:00 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:that is one of the best looking things I have seen in eve, mayhaps make this a feature ccp?
Bombing runs are already purdy. (Not that the bombers get to stick around and watch)
Bombing runs of this scale are fundamentally game-breaking. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1807
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Posted - 2012.07.07 06:15:00 -
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Also, this was my face right before the bomb run on the Nid and Beffah.
I get to be 1 of 160 pilots who ever got to do this TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
StJohn Hawkes
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.07 11:25:00 -
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I think this bug was actually a fix to blob. Indeed, judging from the video, bombs had to be fixed. However, I would suggest raising the 'kill each other' cap to 15-20 bombs instead of current 7, if I'm not mistaken. This would eliminate the problem of overkill without destroying established bomber fleet concept. 7 bombs is probably not enough to kill even a well-tanked Drake, not to mention battleships, which makes the blob totally unchallenged.
Those bombing fleets I've seen in action (both from inside and outside these fleets) never bombed with more than about two squads at the same time and never used different types of damaging bombs, so stuff like in the video never happened in real fights. And bombers weren't overpowered. Fleets warped off or jumped into gates before bombs exploded, bombers got bubbled and totally annihilated - so no, bombing was not a cakewalk.
This topic makes me wonder, though. Remember the fight for C-J6MT half a year ago, when combined defenders' bombing fleet (including PL) pwned about 70 AAA Tengus? Here's an example of a kill: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12368993&nolimit First came a few Void bombs and then about 20 Electron bombs. I don't remember any complains that bombs are bugged from PL then. I remember hype, giggles and posting related kills everywhere. What happened? Why this video just now? It was okay to wipe out T3 fleets, but now that Drakes are dying, there's definetely something wrong with bombs? Or is it a matter of who's getting bombed?
*puts tinfoil hat on* Heey, was it really PL behind the idea of this video, or were they just messengers? Looking at who's losing most ships to bombs in south, I think my brothers in hats know the answer. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
150
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Posted - 2012.07.07 11:32:00 -
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StJohn Hawkes wrote:This topic makes me wonder, though. Remember the fight for C-J6MT half a year ago, when combined defenders' bombing fleet (including PL) pwned about 70 AAA Tengus? Here's an example of a kill: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12368993&nolimit First came a few Void bombs and then about 20 Electron bombs. I don't remember any complains that bombs are bugged from PL then. I remember hype, giggles and posting related kills everywhere. What happened? Why this video just now? It was okay to wipe out T3 fleets, but now that Drakes are dying, there's definetely something wrong with bombs? Or is it a matter of who's getting bombed? *puts tinfoil hat on* Heey, was it really PL behind the idea of this video, or were they just messengers? Looking at who's losing most ships to bombs in south, I think my brothers in hats know the answer.
In this case I doubt there was a lot of tinfoil involved. They found a bug. .......normally you would go do a bug test on sis but they did it on TQ for lolz or something. Good for them.
For reference PL picked up that void bomb trick from Gypse Band who did it to them a few weeks before.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1814
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Posted - 2012.07.07 18:54:00 -
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Onictus wrote: In this case I doubt there was a lot of tinfoil involved. They found a bug. .......normally you would go do a bug test on sis but they did it on TQ for lolz or something. Good for them.
For reference PL picked up that void bomb trick from Gypse Band who did it to them a few weeks before.
The CFC has been doing 1 wing of voids into multiple wings of damage for a very long time, FYI. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2155
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Posted - 2012.07.07 21:17:00 -
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StJohn Hawkes wrote:I think this bug was actually a fix to blob. Indeed, judging from the video, bombs had to be fixed. However, I would suggest raising the 'kill each other' cap to 15-20 bombs instead of current 7, if I'm not mistaken. This would eliminate the problem of overkill without destroying established bomber fleet concept. 7 bombs is probably not enough to kill even a well-tanked Drake, not to mention battleships, which makes the blob totally unchallenged. Those bombing fleets I've seen in action (both from inside and outside these fleets) never bombed with more than about two squads at the same time and never used different types of damaging bombs, so stuff like in the video never happened in real fights. And bombers weren't overpowered. Fleets warped off or jumped into gates before bombs exploded, bombers got bubbled and totally annihilated - so no, bombing was not a cakewalk. This topic makes me wonder, though. Remember the fight for C-J6MT half a year ago, when combined defenders' bombing fleet (including PL) pwned about 70 AAA Tengus? Here's an example of a kill: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12368993&nolimit First came a few Void bombs and then about 20 Electron bombs. I don't remember any complains that bombs are bugged from PL then. I remember hype, giggles and posting related kills everywhere. What happened? Why this video just now? It was okay to wipe out T3 fleets, but now that Drakes are dying, there's definetely something wrong with bombs? Or is it a matter of who's getting bombed? *puts tinfoil hat on* Heey, was it really PL behind the idea of this video, or were they just messengers? Looking at who's losing most ships to bombs in south, I think my brothers in hats know the answer. I am not aware of this bug surfacing before.
It is not uncommon to have multiple wings of bombers launching as soon as the previous volley detonates on bubbled or slow to react targets. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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