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Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.04.07 14:42:00 - [121] 4chan has picked up with a number of ****ty memes but that's good because it won't easily be forgotten then CSM Iceland meeting minutes - READ THEM :D
Jirai Grepher Gallente Amok.	Posted - 2010.04.07 14:54:00 - [122] People die everyday to far more vicious things in less confusing areas of the world. Why does this one stick out so much more? I get a kick out of how people highlight certain things because they are done by a particular people. but the other more gruesome acts are forgotten. The vehicle was unmarked (IE No cross or crescent moon) Possibly there to scoop people and/or weapons. You take chances in a contested area like this, the driver took a chance, which turned out to be a bad one. Since they said Rustamiyah, it's pretty safe to say they were in Sadr City. Which was one of the most dangerous area's in Baghdad....and yes, I have been there. The pilots acted correctly in my opinion, they didn't have the luxury of thinking and scrubbing a video like the people on that website did. When the life of possibly one of your friends is on the line, you would probably do the same thing in that situation. Oh, and laughing and joking is a coping method for some people, they aren't allowed to let the things they do get to them while still on a mission where allies lives are at stake, Friends get killed that way. Flame on.
Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.04.07 15:14:00 - [123] Originally by: Abraham Azadian History of jews in Russia The jewish population in Russia hit an all time high in 1941 at 5.4 million ... stalin was so evil he managed to kill more jews than there were around at the time. And as a reminder the holocaust. Stalin's Purge: Arrests, 1937-1938 - about 7 million Executed - about 1 million Died in camps - about 2 million In prison, late 1938 - about 1 million In camps, late 1938 - about 8 million Conquest concluded that "not more than 10 percent of those then in camp survived." Updating his figures in the late 1980s based on recently-released archival sources, he increased the number of "arrests" to 8 million, but reduced the number in camps to "7 million, or even a little less." This would give a total death toll for the main Purge period of just under ten million people. About 98 percent of the dead (Gendercide Watch's calculation) were male. Others estimate more.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.04.07 15:15:00 - [124] Originally by: Jirai Grepher The pilots acted correctly in my opinion, they didn't have the luxury of thinking and scrubbing a video like the people on that website did. When the life of possibly one of your friends is on the line, you would probably do the same thing in that situation. Flame on. I'll start, how is anyone's anything on the line? CSM Iceland meeting minutes - READ THEM :D
Tallaran Kouros Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.07 15:18:00 - [125] Originally by: Kitimortoa Arrests, 1937-1938 - about 7 million Executed - about 1 million Died in camps - about 2 million In prison, late 1938 - about 1 million In camps, late 1938 - about 8 million [/quote But how many were Jews and purged simply for being Jewish, rather than being political or of suspect loyalty?
Abraham Azadian Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2010.04.07 15:23:00 - [126] Originally by: Kitimortoa Stalin's Purge: Arrests, 1937-1938 - about 7 million Executed - about 1 million Died in camps - about 2 million In prison, late 1938 - about 1 million In camps, late 1938 - about 8 million Conquest concluded that "not more than 10 percent of those then in camp survived." Updating his figures in the late 1980s based on recently-released archival sources, he increased the number of "arrests" to 8 million, but reduced the number in camps to "7 million, or even a little less." This would give a total death toll for the main Purge period of just under ten million people. About 98 percent of the dead (Gendercide Watch's calculation) were male. Others estimate more. OMG, you're either stupid or dishonest. Stalin's purge were political and in no way directed toward the members of a specific religion or race. British officer : "You French fight for money, while we British fight for honour." Surcouf : "A man fights for what he lacks the most!"
Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.04.07 15:28:00 - [127] Originally by: Tallaran Kouros Originally by: Kitimortoa Arrests, 1937-1938 - about 7 million Executed - about 1 million Died in camps - about 2 million In prison, late 1938 - about 1 million In camps, late 1938 - about 8 million [/quote But how many were Jews and purged simply for being Jewish, rather than being political or of suspect loyalty? That is only in the soviet union, that does not include the eastern bloc countries. The point is, Russia was very much worse than anything dealing with the subject matter of this thread. Originally by: Tallaran Kouros I'd like to see where China, Russia or the UK has acted in such a manner. This was probably the dumbest thing said in this thread so far.
Jirai Grepher Gallente Amok.	Posted - 2010.04.07 15:29:00 - [128] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Jirai Grepher The pilots acted correctly in my opinion, they didn't have the luxury of thinking and scrubbing a video like the people on that website did. When the life of possibly one of your friends is on the line, you would probably do the same thing in that situation. Flame on. I'll start, how is anyone's anything on the line? People walking around the street with what looks to be slinged weapons, one guy crouching and peering around a corner with what looks to be an rpg. You can hear on the comms there is a Mounted squad on the ground in that area. Probable cause is enough. Off to work, I'll argue with you some more if i make it back for lunch.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.04.07 15:38:00 - [129] Originally by: Jirai Grepher People walking around the street with what looks to be slinged weapons, one guy crouching and peering around a corner with what looks to be an rpg. You can hear on the comms there is a Mounted squad on the ground in that area. The first two are assumptions and far from certain. The latter is untrue, you can hear ground forces asking the helo crew to walk them there later so they weren't nearby. CSM Iceland meeting minutes - READ THEM :D
Jirai Grepher Gallente Amok.	Posted - 2010.04.07 15:42:00 - [130] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Jirai Grepher People walking around the street with what looks to be slinged weapons, one guy crouching and peering around a corner with what looks to be an rpg. You can hear on the comms there is a Mounted squad on the ground in that area. The first two are assumptions and far from certain. The latter is untrue, you can hear ground forces asking the helo crew to walk them there later so they weren't nearby. Ninja post before i walk out the door. The ground squad was in the AO, thats enough. and Perception is a sono***un, don't perceive to be trying to shoot at people next time. Same thing would happen if guys with airsoft rifles tried to rob a bank.

Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2010.04.07 15:42:00 - [131] Originally by: Kitimortoa Conquest concluded ... Others estimate more. Oh yeah, Conquest. The dude famous for basing his research on the substance he pulls out of his ass. Who are these others who estimate more? ...
Alexeph Stoekai Stoekai Corp	Posted - 2010.04.07 16:29:00 - [132] Edited by: Alexeph Stoekai on 07/04/2010 16:30:15 Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Jirai Grepher People walking around the street with what looks to be slinged weapons, one guy crouching and peering around a corner with what looks to be an rpg. You can hear on the comms there is a Mounted squad on the ground in that area. The first two are assumptions and far from certain. The latter is untrue, you can hear ground forces asking the helo crew to walk them there later so they weren't nearby. These are pictures recovered from one of the cameras on the scene, from the Army's investigation report of the incident. The reporter peeking around the corner was evidently taking pictures of a Bravo Company hummer down the street. I think it'd be best if you don't make outright assumptions of what is and isn't true in this matter. -----
Unity Love Caldari Dissonance Corp Primary.	Posted - 2010.04.07 16:41:00 - [133] I agree with Sockratez (spelling lol) here. These people have been trained for years for situations like these. They shouldn't suddenly go omgz lol he has a black stick like thing lets kill him and his friends.
Skippermonkey	Posted - 2010.04.07 17:06:00 - [134] Suddenly ~~Ninjas~~ Conscience
Zhula Guixgrixks Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.04.07 18:24:00 - [135] Edited by: Zhula Guixgrixks on 07/04/2010 18:25:55 The crew sounds like a bunch of 10 year olds from a street gang. No wonder everybody loves them.
Kephael Caldari SERENDIPITY INC R-I-P	Posted - 2010.04.07 18:39:00 - [136] Edited by: Kephael on 07/04/2010 18:43:16 Originally by: Wuff Wuff Originally by: Kitimortoa I'm sorry... What about the rescuers in the van? I saw nothing which gave any indication that they were carrying weapons. - Wuffles Generally they're not "rescuers" but fellow insurgents who pick up the wounded to prevent them from giving out information. Occasionally they booby-trap the bodies. The photographers had it coming, hanging out with armed insurgents can get you killed. You can see a few rifles and an RPG in the beginning of the video. __________________________________________
Cute Joe	Posted - 2010.04.07 18:49:00 - [137] Originally by: Kephael ... i suddenly feel the urge to slap you
Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.04.07 18:59:00 - [138] Edited by: Kitimortoa on 07/04/2010 19:07:30 Little context from a retired general: http://cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2010/04/06/ricks.iraq.army.shooting.cnn If those journalists had been wearing what they were supposed to to identify themselves as journalists, it probably wouldn't have happened.
Zhula Guixgrixks Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.04.07 19:28:00 - [139] Edited by: Zhula Guixgrixks on 07/04/2010 19:29:14 All this dmg control stuff, rationalizng murder by generals and minions. Yes, maybe there is some truth in this. But you know, thats all irrelevant and somehow funny. Why ? Imagine a average guy sitting in some random country in front of his PC. He does not care about the context, he just watches the video. All what he sees is a bunch of brats murdering people on streets. Mulitply this impression 1 billion or more and you can imagine how the world see it.
AdmiralJohn The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.07 19:41:00 - [140] Originally by: Kephael The photographers had it coming, hanging out with armed insurgents can get you killed. You can see a few rifles and an RPG in the beginning of the video. Or, durr, here's an idea: those were armed guards to protect them from such people? That surely isn't the reason! I seriously hope I'm being trolled, right now. Originally by: Bellum Eternus Can you even read? My example is a perfect example. Those people should have ran the other direction,not towards a hot American AO. And as for invading for questionable reasons, the UK, well, all of Europe, all of Eastern Europe, all of Asia, all of the Middle East, South America, Africa etc. are all guilty of the same. The US is simply top of the hill right now, otherwise it would be some other nation. America isn't any worse than any other nation in this respect. They aren't paid to sit a hundred miles away and make up stories, you know. There have been journalists there since the fighting started, and there have been journalists in every modern war. Funny how most of the others weren't shot by friendlies. Also, I'm not saying that other countries aren't guilty. Every single nation harbors people like this. What I am saying, though, is that atrocities like this can't be justified because of who's pulling the trigger. When an insurgent kills an civilian it's a crime, when a American kills civilians it's a justified action.

Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.04.07 19:46:00 - [141] Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks Edited by: Zhula Guixgrixks on 07/04/2010 19:29:14 All this dmg control stuff, rationalizng murder by generals and minions. Yes, maybe there is some truth in this. But you know, thats all irrelevant and somehow funny. Why ? Imagine a average guy sitting in some random country in front of his PC. He does not care about the context, he just watches the video. All what he sees is a bunch of brats murdering people on streets. Mulitply this impression 1 billion or more and you can imagine how the world see it. Life without context is meaningless, just like you.
Sobach Fourth Circle Total Comfort	Posted - 2010.04.07 19:48:00 - [142] Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks lol, damned the truth of what actually happened, 'cause armchair general-ing by ignorant ppl who doesn't know wtf they're talking about is moar fun, and since there are way more ignorant ppl in the world, that's how the world will see it too fixed and sadly, all too true. Hell, most of the people in this threat are doing exactly the same, they take a little video clip, cut away everything else like the context and the situation, and then insert their own misconception and made-up settings, and then goes ZOMGWTF!!!!!!111!RAGEEEEEEE Obviously what they should have done is to go out in the middle of the fight and ask every person for an ID and then run a background check to make sure the guy is really an insurgent, give them a full steak dinner, a jacuzzi bath and a massage, a ride back home, and THEN shoot them right? if you can't grasp the concept of what war is, or what fighting is like in real life outside of your video games, then you're just not going to get it even if the truth smacks you in the face like so many have demonstrated in here. Originally by: AdmiralJohn When an insurgent kills an civilian it's a crime, when a American kills civilians it's a justified action. yea, that's why there is all the rage when the insurgents kills innocent civilians.... oh wait, there isn't any, when insurgents kill innocent civilians, it's still the American's fault
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.07 20:32:00 - [143] Wow, some of you guys sound like you'd fit right in with an early 70s British Parachute Regiment.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.04.07 21:24:00 - [144] Originally by: Kephael The photographers had it coming, hanging out with armed insurgents can get you killed. You can see a few rifles and an RPG in the beginning of the video. You make it sound like that somehow justifies anything that happened. CSM Iceland meeting minutes - READ THEM :D
TheLordofAllandNothing Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.07 21:46:00 - [145] They make it sound like they were hanging out with armed insurgents(no one was armed, get that through your heads). The only armed people i see apart from the american soldiers are the people in the building towards the end just before they blow it up along with the civilians around it. _______________________ Fix rockets in '09 =(
Larkonis Trassler Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.04.07 21:56:00 - [146] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing They make it sound like they were hanging out with armed insurgents(no one was armed, get that through your heads). Look at dat camera lens. Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist No. Larkonis
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.04.07 22:00:00 - [147] I'm no expert on the subject but that could be a dozen things that look like an RPG, or an RPG. CSM Iceland meeting minutes - READ THEM :D
Larkonis Trassler Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.04.07 22:12:00 - [148] Edited by: Larkonis Trassler on 07/04/2010 22:13:26 Originally by: Sokratesz I'm no expert on the subject but that could be a dozen things that look like an RPG, or an RPG. Bing bong! Now that you're beaten, please just admit it. Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist No. Larkonis
Cikulisuy Amarr The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.07 22:14:00 - [149] Originally by: Bellum Eternus A friend of mine used to hang out with a bunch of guys at 3am around a bunch of bars in the neighborhood and he'd always complain that the cops would harass him and pull him over and search him etc., even though he didn't do anything. He insisted that it was the cops' fault and that they were being unfair to him. I told him to stop hanging around bars at 3am in the morning and cops wouldn't even be aware of his existence and he would stop getting harassed. Iraq is exactly the same way. Don't want to die? Don't walk around in groups of people and then stack up at the corner of a building like you're going to engage a target (which is exactly what the people did in the video). Don't run around in an active American AO and you won't get lit up. Simple as that. For some reason Iraqis don't seem to understand that, hence you have women and children running around in the middle of a firefight like idiots. It doesn't sink in that Americans will kill anything and everything within sight that isn't them if given a chance. The Iraquis do the same thing when given half a chance. And the Chinese, and the Russians, and the UK, and and and... It's not restricted to Americans. oh cmon, bellum. you are a reasonable fellow and now you are playing blame the victim. the actions in the video are inexcusable and saying ;if you don't want to get ****d, don't walk through narrow alleys; is just ridiculous here. nub> you cant mine so you kill.
Gunner The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.04.07 22:43:00 - [150] Edited by: Gunner on 07/04/2010 22:43:11 Yes, Do not wear a mini skirt if you do not want to get **d. It's your own fault. Lol, why is r a p e blocked ffs? * 2007.10.06 R.I.P. Hatuk my friend.



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