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Preparataon H
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Posted - 2010.04.07 20:29:00 -
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I know its easily possible to run class 4's with 2 properly fit tengu's. My question is do they end up doing RR or do they setup for solo tank and use the dps to mitigate damage from the spawns? Are you going to need Type-A stuff to run class 4s or is there a setup with tech II that will work? If anyone has a fit for the solution I would really like to see it.
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Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2010.04.07 21:00:00 -
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Tech 2 won't really cut it for class 4 tengu.
You want a good shield booster...ideally pithum a-type medium. Gist large I think is next best but then you need gimp your dps by use a cap flux or two to run it cap stable. Of course you use pithum a-type medium 1bil booster then no reason not to use 2 x CN invuln, 2 x CN SBA etc etc. Maybe you can try Gist large booster with the rest t2 fit...just looking in EFT you get about ~700 extra tank overheating with the pithum a-type + CN gear which will save your ass when get heavy aggro in class 4.
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Preparataon H
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Posted - 2010.04.07 21:34:00 -
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What fit are you using for this then? I hear you need 7k+ shields to withstand the alpha is this true? I guess you are going the dual independent tengu approach instead of the RR?
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Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2010.04.07 22:24:00 -
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You can solo in this
[Tengu, Solo wormhole C3/C4] Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
This is about 5k shields but high resist I guess...overheating when neccesary. You don't fly straight into the bs (see below) so maybe this is why no 7k buffer is needed). A set of halo implant and blue pill/x-instinct booster also help. HAM variant (not sure on fit) works well also I have heard. Of course shield harmonize link if possible.
Advice I was given (and works well for me) is bm the structure where the bs will spawn. Drop a can and orbit while popping all the small stuff then when bs spawn warp out and warp to the structure, burn to the bs and orbit one at a time while take them down.
Legion fit I saw some guy posted on his blog for solo class 4 below...you can see this is close stats to the tengu fit.
[Legion, Class 4 Sleepers] Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Damage Control II Dark Blood Armor EM Hardener Dark Blood Armor Thermic Hardener Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier True Sansha Cap Recharger
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Nanobot Accelerator I
Legion Defensive û Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics û Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Engineering û Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Legion Offensive û Liquid Crystal Magnifiers Legion Propulsion û Fuel Catalyst
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Paolri
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Posted - 2010.04.07 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Paolri on 07/04/2010 22:55:00 Edited by: Paolri on 07/04/2010 22:53:18 You definately need an a-type repper and faction or better resist gear. The alpha will not hurt you in a t3 because of the low sig radius, need to worry more about alpha in a bs. My buddy and I run 2 tengus in a c4 and so far its easy mode. Dps isn't spectacular, but when you only have 2 people t3 is the best you can use. honestly, with 2 tengus, you dont really have to worry about flying directly into them, at least if you're faction/complex fit. You can afford less expensive gear if you feel like improving your tactics.
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Brandon Boyd
Caldari Nefarious Activities
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Posted - 2010.04.08 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Brandon Boyd on 08/04/2010 09:41:21 I doubt that the Pithum A will be able to handle the tougher Sites in a C4 solo (safeguards *cough*). And the Pithum - while beeing really nice Statwise - is only ever needed if you absolutly must fly the 6 launcher variation due to the gimped Grid on the augumented cap Subsystem.
If you you always will have a second Tengu available do yourself a favour and overtank a little cause the Killtime with 2x 5-Heavy-Launcher-Tengus is sufficient enough to yield you roughly a 100mil and hour breezing through Combats (Frontier Barracks have 7 Bs¦s and Sleeper Information sport 6 - albeit with a 3 Defender & 1 safeguard spawn) in a Class 4 with no effects. Obviously Pulsars make you even more awesome. Not because you get more Buffer cause you do not really need it but because Sleepers tanke becomes weaksauce.
Now as to what you need to fit: Cap Regen Matrix as you engineering Sub....> Profit. This¦ll allow you to permarun a Large Deadspace Pith up to A type IIRC (decent cap skills + eng V sub). For maximum Pimpfactor I suggest a Gist C XL (needs cpu fitting mods though).
Enjoy,
BB
Edit:: Also use Scourge missles caus e Sleepers omnitnak with equal resists and Precision are slightly better for frigs than navy ammoo as well as Furys beeing preferable against sleeper Bs¦s Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed resolution of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. -Weatherman |
Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2010.04.08 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: Widemouth Deepthroat on 08/04/2010 19:47:19 Yes...x-l booster is for noob who flies head on into the bs spawn with preferably a mwd running. Pithum a-type medium does fine with an extra launcher so more dps (we don't need gimp dps even more for a little bit of extra defense).
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Brandon Boyd
Caldari Nefarious Activities
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Posted - 2010.04.09 08:47:00 -
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Way to go calling someone a noob but suggesting a ganktank approach with invested Isk at about 2bil (give or take). And of course you use an MWD when there is a perfectly fine AB-speedbonus Sub that allows you to go 600ms with no sigbloom making the Kin/Explo Missles even more pathetic than they are.
Now I know why I dont post often. With a NO buffer fit its better to start out overtanking. If you screw up your orbit around the BS, so they cannot track you, or your speed drops because you get stuck in some Structure or hell even the phone rings your Pithum WILL be struggling solo in C4¦s so let em find out if they can pull it off with some margin of Error or at least give them a proper instruction to flying a gank tank (as in have a bouncezephyr in the site to avoid travel times, a suicide TI frig alt on standby that you can warp in the site if a gank squad is around and you wnat to get your 2 bil ship out etc...)
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Vilgan i'Lakin
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Posted - 2010.04.09 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat Edited by: Widemouth Deepthroat on 07/04/2010 22:30:30 You can solo in this
[Tengu, terrible fit] faction invulns and other nonsense
Not sure if he's just trying to get fancy killmails or whatnot, but that's a pretty terribad fit. Faction invulns? For C4? Are you serious? Pithum a-type medium shield booster? mk.
typical fit is pith a-type or b-type large, 2 reg invulns, 2 shield boost amps, and sensible things from there. A tengu can solo C4s but typically its not worth it time wise unless you have 2.
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Shogun ripper
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Posted - 2010.04.09 18:07:00 -
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Me and a buddy do c4's in a t2 fit loki and a mostly t2 fit passive (active invulns tho) drake running t1 heavies. we can clear all the c4 anoms in about 20-30 minutes each, tho the radars and mags are a bit harder.
Disclaimer- We live in a pulsar
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