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romek mablung
Caldari OWS Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.04.22 22:45:00 -
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Edited by: romek mablung on 22/04/2010 22:46:10 Well,sorry if anybody got stuck on airfields ect,though i cant possibly care less of airtrafficing over europe.Last time i used plane 08.06.1990.Not intend to fly anywhere in near 300 years too.Let those planes rot on ground....
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Ephemeron
Retribution Corp. Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2010.04.22 22:48:00 -
[1082]
Originally by: romek mablung Edited by: romek mablung on 22/04/2010 22:46:10 Well,sorry if anybody got stuck on airfields ect,though i cant possibly care less of airtrafficing over europe.Last time i used plane 08.06.1990.Not intend to fly anywhere in near 300 years too.Let those planes rot on ground....
I'm surprised you are cool with flying space ships
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.04.22 22:50:00 -
[1083]
Originally by: Deus Ex'Machina
Originally by: species2143
The argumentation that exploiting is ok to counter macrobots is as reasonable as nuclear first-strike to avoid a war. ~snip~
This is a hole that CCP dug by itself, the game is dead easy to play at its core , once one understands it. Press the button and your internet spaceship mines for 10 minutes during which time you have ~nothing~ else gameplay related to do.
Then you're doing it wrong. Try once to investigare the full skillset of a skilled miner. -- Thanks CCP for cu |
Romale
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.22 22:50:00 -
[1084]
yawn, this thread is getting boreing, someone post some new concept that we can troll into the ground please?
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romek mablung
Caldari OWS Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.04.22 22:52:00 -
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Im just damn poor my last 20 years,can barely afford internet and one payed online game,no fancy vacations with family on southern islands
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.22 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Xtover
if the exploit gets released CCP will have to make a hotfix asap.
That's why it would be fun to release it.
Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Orree
Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.04.22 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: WormSwarm Edited by: WormSwarm on 22/04/2010 01:27:51 There is a 2nd story to tell here
How many people that are apart of this witch hunt, are also apart of the isk sellers problem in Eve. You are dealing with people that want to protect their business, and they will do anything to have perfectly running Macros. Proof on how they will even perform exploits ingame to try and 'prove' that a player might be using a specific technique to catch their macro programs.
<snip>
I'm not a part of any of it and am quite disgusted by all of it.
I sincerely hope CCP say something soon about what is or isn't going on here.
Yep, i mad.
---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |
baltec1
Antares Shipyards Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.04.22 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Romale yawn, this thread is getting boreing, someone post some new concept that we can troll into the ground please?
I found that if you jump, then dash then jump again you can go much further than normal but you have to watch out for those stars otherwise you blow up and your dream wont come true.
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romek mablung
Caldari OWS Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.04.22 23:01:00 -
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Well...it dosnt bother much real empire carebears ....Allez!Would be interesting to read ****ed off forums.Me intends to just trains skillz next 3 years anyway
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Deus Ex'Machina
The-Machine
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Posted - 2010.04.22 23:01:00 -
[1090]
Originally by: Tonto Auri
Originally by: Deus Ex'Machina
Originally by: species2143
The argumentation that exploiting is ok to counter macrobots is as reasonable as nuclear first-strike to avoid a war. ~snip~
This is a hole that CCP dug by itself, the game is dead easy to play at its core , once one understands it. Press the button and your internet spaceship mines for 10 minutes during which time you have ~nothing~ else gameplay related to do.
Then you're doing it wrong. Try once to investigare the full skillset of a skilled miner.
Facebook and twitter are not gameplay elements. - Arkanon: EXPLAIN YOURSELF, EVILDOER! Sharkbait: Dude. |
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.
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Posted - 2010.04.22 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Deus Ex'Machina
Originally by: Tonto Auri Then you're doing it wrong. Try once to investigare the full skillset of a skilled miner.
Facebook and twitter are not gameplay elements.
He said skilled miner, not skilled minor.
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Deus Ex'Machina
The-Machine
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Posted - 2010.04.22 23:50:00 -
[1092]
Originally by: Jigglepants Edited by: Jigglepants on 22/04/2010 23:45:03 :SIREN: PL LEAK INCOMING :SIREN:
Quote:
(6:34:13 PM) MCounts: eve is STACKLESS PYTHON (6:34:24 PM) karttoon: More like stackless **** (6:34:31 PM) MCounts: ^^^ dis (6:34:38 PM) JEFFRAIDER: well played kartoon (6:34:38 PM) Phreeze: why would you stack **** though (6:34:53 PM) MCounts: maybe you want it organized (6:35:07 PM) MCounts: but i mean, theres a limit to how high they stack **** (6:35:19 PM) MCounts: 5'10" seems unreasonable (6:35:21 PM) karttoon: That's when new **** can't see local (6:35:22 PM) JEFFRAIDER: phreeze: for deepthroating (6:35:35 PM) Phreeze: is **** even stackable? i mean most turds are generally different than the next (6:35:45 PM) MCounts: i mean (6:35:52 PM) Phreeze: you would need some sort of adaptable foam **** container (6:35:55 PM) karttoon: You've never pooed into a giant pile that pops out of the toilet water? (6:35:56 PM) Elektrea: my ****s pretty uniform (6:35:59 PM) Syrinthal: **** is easily stackable (6:36:00 PM) MCounts: i wasnt aware that they stacked **** up to 5'10" (6:36:18 PM) MCounts: but a bum**** private from texas made me aware of that (6:36:28 PM) karttoon: Phreeze isn't that tall, is he? (6:36:58 PM) Phreeze: 5'8 actually :smug: (6:37:00 PM) JEFFRAIDER: someone posted something in local once like "i just took a poop so long it was at the bottom of the toilet and inside of me at the same time" (6:37:02 PM) JEFFRAIDER: i laughed (6:37:12 PM) karttoon: Haha (6:37:22 PM) MCounts: i once took one of those evil evil chinese food ****s (6:37:35 PM) MCounts: thats the horrible combination of sturdy and malleable (6:37:51 PM) MCounts: and it was so long it bent around and touched my ball (6:37:53 PM) MCounts: s (6:38:00 PM) Phreeze: my fav is when you double rope the bowl (6:38:04 PM) MCounts: i was rather traumatized (6:38:29 PM) MCounts: ive shat smiley faces before (6:39:06 PM) karttoon: :) or =) ? (6:39:15 PM) MCounts: first one (6:39:24 PM) MCounts: it was clearly a COLON a[;isakhjdpaosijh[aoifjsoifghsdogihsfgoshgsj (6:39:25 PM) Witchking: i want some chinese now (6:39:28 PM) MissBolyai: anyone ever been to tropical smoothie? (6:39:35 PM) MCounts: no (6:39:35 PM) Witchking: my colon DEMANDS chinese (6:39:36 PM) karttoon: Your colon made a colon?
PL: MENACES TO SOCIETY? YOU BE THE JUDGE
One of those guys is Bono, yet another is a GM alt.
Those who resemble stick together eh? - Arkanon: EXPLAIN YOURSELF, EVILDOER! Sharkbait: Dude. |
Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2010.04.23 00:08:00 -
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Ive decided to issue a call for the end of this thread its so 1990s.
SKUNK (o)
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Vicomte de'Bragelonne
Gallente Fugitive Biomass
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Posted - 2010.04.23 00:12:00 -
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hi mom, im on massively!
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.23 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jeremey Edited by: Jeremey on 22/04/2010 21:20:01 First part of new video from Ellatan on testserver, reproducing the exploit and scenario that were used by Pandemic Legion's The Monkeysphere to kill players on Tranqulity.
Second part of video by Ellatan.
Seriously will someone post a video of monkeysphere actually doing this or some other proof. Just because there is an exploit doesnt mean he has used it.
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Lanais Suleia
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Posted - 2010.04.23 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: xo3e killing bots with exploit use is.. acceptable. but monkeysphere has started to kill common players
Profiting from macroers, whether by buying their ISK or stealing it directly, is still profiting.
Let's just make one thing perfectly clear. He's not doing this out of the kindness of his heart in a valiant crusade against all that is wrong in the universe. He's doing this for profit, pure and simple, and the best way to keep getting away with blatant cheating is to make sure your victims can't complain, by targetting other cheaters who do not want to draw attention to themselves by lodging petitions. |
Dianeces
SiN. Corp Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.23 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lanais Suleia
Originally by: xo3e killing bots with exploit use is.. acceptable. but monkeysphere has started to kill common players
Profiting from macroers, whether by buying their ISK or stealing it directly, is still profiting.
Let's just make one thing perfectly clear. He's not doing this out of the kindness of his heart in a valiant crusade against all that is wrong in the universe. He's doing this for profit, pure and simple, and the best way to keep getting away with blatant cheating is to make sure your victims can't complain, by targetting other cheaters who do not want to draw attention to themselves by lodging petitions.
50 T2 BCUs and 70 Arbalest Cruise Launchers isn't much profit compared to all the ISK all Russian botmasters make.
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Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.04.23 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Firkragg
Originally by: Jeremey Edited by: Jeremey on 22/04/2010 21:20:01 First part of new video from Ellatan on testserver, reproducing the exploit and scenario that were used by Pandemic Legion's The Monkeysphere to kill players on Tranqulity.
Second part of video by Ellatan.
Seriously will someone post a video of monkeysphere actually doing this or some other proof. Just because there is an exploit doesnt mean he has used it.
If you reread the OP you will find that the question the OP asked was if what happened to him could have been due to an exploit. The answer to that is yes, as per the proof that has been provided.
Everything else is speculation.
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Ellatan Deruimte
Surreal corp Stain Empire
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Posted - 2010.04.23 00:36:00 -
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First internet media mention, hopefully it will bring more attention to the problem and get it fixed sooner.
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Creamster
Fremen Sietch DarkSide.
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Posted - 2010.04.23 00:43:00 -
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Hey El, your second video is priceless Keep up good work, we all need eve sploits free. And Huhu, my man do you accept donations, this stuff is pretty damn impressive. ___________ In Petition we trust |
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.04.23 00:45:00 -
[1101]
Having the client join local once it's loaded grid might be a neat way of solving the blob fight problem where people jumping into a fight are sitting ducks.
Requiring confirmation from the client that grid has been loaded, before making the ship appear in space or allowing modules to be activated - would that solve the fleet lag problem while simultaneously eliminating this exploit?
At the worst, the exploiting player might be able to see grid (because the client has successfully loaded grid, but the message that grid has been loaded was intercepted) and provide intelligence without appearing in local. The player's ship will eventually have to appear in local space since the server would disconnect the client, at which point the ship will appear so that it can then do an emergency warp.
The client and server would have to be modified so that grid is loaded while the ship is still in transit, with the player's ship only being added to the grid after the client confirms that grid has been loaded. For a ship jumping into a system (through jump gate, jump drive or jump bridge) the ship only appears in the system when it's added to grid, for a ship warping between points in a system, it leaves one grid, warps, then disappears into an "uncollapsed quantum state" while waiting for the client to report that it has loaded the destination grid. The "uncollapsed quantum state" would allow the ship to be probed down, but any attempt to warp to the ship will have the attacker arrive on an empty grid at a random point along the warping ship's path.
The server will not accept any commands from the client until the client reports that grid has been loaded. Thus an exploiter could report what ships are present (the client has loaded the grid and the simulation is running), but cannot tag, cannot broadcast targets, cannot broadcast "warp to me", cannot light a cyno, cannot warp elsewhere, and due to the server still having the ship in an "uncollapsed quantum state" the ship cannot be warped to.
If this has already been suggested elsewhere, apologies for the redundancy.
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Cartune
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Posted - 2010.04.23 00:48:00 -
[1102]
Originally by: Deus Ex'Machina
Originally by: Jigglepants Edited by: Jigglepants on 22/04/2010 23:45:03 :SIREN: PL LEAK INCOMING :SIREN: Quote: ****
PL: MENACES TO SOCIETY? YOU BE THE JUDGE
One of those guys is Bono, yet another is a GM alt. Those who resemble stick together eh?
nothing here, faux news. tourney sweepers, l33tist goony haxr, & GM shooting **** in a privy convo. status quo. move along
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Galgacus
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Posted - 2010.04.23 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cartune
Originally by: Deus Ex'Machina
Originally by: Jigglepants Edited by: Jigglepants on 22/04/2010 23:45:03 :SIREN: PL LEAK INCOMING :SIREN: Quote: ****
PL: MENACES TO SOCIETY? YOU BE THE JUDGE
One of those guys is Bono, yet another is a GM alt. Those who resemble stick together eh?
nothing here, faux news. tourney sweepers, l33tist goony haxr, & GM shooting **** in a privy convo. status quo. move along
That's a tiny bit controversial. "Marked for deletion", Adida?
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Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.04.23 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ellatan Deruimte First internet media mention, hopefully it will bring more attention to the problem and get it fixed sooner.
Nice article. But give CCP a little break here. The exploit has just been proven so obviously CCP does not have a fix ready right away. I am pretty sure they are working on it.
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Galgacus
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Posted - 2010.04.23 01:14:00 -
[1105]
Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium
Originally by: Ellatan Deruimte First internet media mention, hopefully it will bring more attention to the problem and get it fixed sooner.
Nice article. But give CCP a little break here. The exploit has just been proven so obviously CCP does not have a fix ready right away. I am pretty sure they are working on it.
Their logs show nothing. Local had the correct entries at the time of the deaths in question. Move along.
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The Monkeysphere
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.23 01:18:00 -
[1106]
Originally by: Galgacus
Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium
Originally by: Ellatan Deruimte First internet media mention, hopefully it will bring more attention to the problem and get it fixed sooner.
Nice article. But give CCP a little break here. The exploit has just been proven so obviously CCP does not have a fix ready right away. I am pretty sure they are working on it.
Their logs show nothing. Local had the correct entries at the time of the deaths in question. Move along.
Maybe the reason their logs had the correct times of me entering local and the reason I'm not banned was because I always did enter local the second I logged/jumped in?
- Eduard Khil
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.23 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Firkragg Seriously will someone post a video of monkeysphere actually doing this or some other proof. Just because there is an exploit doesnt mean he has used it.
Dear Pandemic Legion,
I'm sure at this point CCP is investigating and will either be banning Mr. Monkeysphere or will be acquitting him, along with all the Pandemic Legion players that cheated. At this point there really is nothing for anyone of us to prove to you.
His KB alone is highly suspect and deserves investigating. But nothing short of him confessing while doing it will convince you, so really, why ask us for proof? :)
Don't worry, CCP is looking into it now, and you should really be asking CCP to prove to you that your good 'ol monkey isn't cheating, not us :).
Good luck and God's Speed to you all (I think you will need it),
MSII
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Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.04.23 01:37:00 -
[1108]
Originally by: The Monkeysphere Maybe the reason their logs had the correct times of me entering local and the reason I'm not banned was because I always did enter local the second I logged/jumped in?
- Eduard Khil
To me, the important thing is that CCP fixes the local exploit. If you did not use it, that's cool, but it obviously exists.
Actually if you did not use this exploit and neither anyone else in PL, then I guess it is in your interest as well that CCP investigates and finds a solution.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.23 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium Edited by: Phosphorus Palladium on 23/04/2010 01:41:44
Originally by: The Monkeysphere Maybe the reason their logs had the correct times of me entering local and the reason I'm not banned was because I always did enter local the second I logged/jumped in?
- Eduard Khil
To me, the important thing is that CCP fixes the local exploit. If you did not use it, that's cool, but it obviously exists.
Also if you did not use this exploit and neither anyone else in PL, then I guess it is in your interest as well that CCP investigates, tries to find players that did use the exploit on TQ and finds a solution so that the exploit can not be used anymore.
Its easy to find out who used it, they've openly fraps'd themselves purposely hacking the SiSi client, and then posted the evidence in this thread.
Pretty sure thats a clear cut case.
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Clb
The Intersect
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Posted - 2010.04.23 01:45:00 -
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http://twitter.com/CCP_Quell/status/12670687041
Originally by: CCP_Quell We're aware of the discussion, but I've not seen a final word from dev yet. I will post when I have solid news.
In response to this.
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