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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2867
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Posted - 2015.10.29 15:31:42 -
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They're so nice and fluffy and never complain.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
228
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Posted - 2015.10.30 14:38:22 -
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Awww fluffy |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2870
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Posted - 2015.11.02 08:50:18 -
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Our daily fleets are getting bigger every time. It's harder to stay unnoticed. Went to RvB HQ, all stayed docked, went to PIRAT HQ, all docked up. We might want to split the fleet in smaller groups or provoke more nullbear fleets to come to highsec.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2880
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Posted - 2015.11.05 08:11:39 -
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Good to see Marmites adapt. Am looking at https://zkillboard.com/alliance/1680888152/kills/, right bottom (Top Locations) and I mainly see gates at the top locations (+station Rens). Still getting good kills.
Did someone rage kick 3 corps after losing a Legion and his shiny pod ? Nehhh....
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Fybs
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
512
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Posted - 2015.11.05 10:11:05 -
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Gutted I missed it
Don't you just hate it when real life gets in the way of video games?
Don't confuse kindness with weakness.
Beware the hand of Fybs.
Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority
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Xorphix
Deadly Fingertips The Marmite Collective
132
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Posted - 2015.11.05 10:19:02 -
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Fybs wrote:Gutted I missed it Don't you just hate it when real life gets in the way of video games?
Tell me about it. :( |
Kashan
New Eden News Network
2
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Posted - 2015.11.05 10:45:48 -
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Good job with pirat. they are the worst merc alliance in the game and yes i'm talking from experience.
Kashan - New Eden News Network Corporation CEO
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Kashan
New Eden News Network
2
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Posted - 2015.11.05 10:49:34 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Our daily fleets are getting bigger every time. It's harder to stay unnoticed. Went to RvB HQ, all stayed docked, went to PIRAT HQ, all docked up. We might want to split the fleet in smaller groups or provoke more nullbear fleets to come to highsec.
If null bears come to highsec, you'll be the ones docking ;).
Kashan - New Eden News Network Corporation CEO
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2883
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Posted - 2015.11.05 11:06:59 -
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We probably won 8 out of 10 fights against null fleets coming to HS. Avoided 2, never lost.... We have the advantage of being underestimated. Never underestimate your enemies...... not even if they are miners or other industrials.
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Starrakatt
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps FETID
337
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Posted - 2015.11.05 12:16:27 -
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Kashan wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Our daily fleets are getting bigger every time. It's harder to stay unnoticed. Went to RvB HQ, all stayed docked, went to PIRAT HQ, all docked up. We might want to split the fleet in smaller groups or provoke more nullbear fleets to come to highsec. If null bears come to highsec, you'll be the ones docking ;). Keep in mind, lots of so-called Hisec mercs have Nulsec mains or alts, or have Nulsec/Lowsec experience.
Like Tora says, never underestimate the opposition.
Sneaky bastard.
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Xorphix
Deadly Fingertips The Marmite Collective
132
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Posted - 2015.11.05 12:25:14 -
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Kashan wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Our daily fleets are getting bigger every time. It's harder to stay unnoticed. Went to RvB HQ, all stayed docked, went to PIRAT HQ, all docked up. We might want to split the fleet in smaller groups or provoke more nullbear fleets to come to highsec. If null bears come to highsec, you'll be the ones docking ;).
Those nullbears popping up in highsec are usually the ones we have the most fun killing. ;) |
NEUR0TOX
Big Johnson's
0
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Posted - 2015.11.05 20:35:34 -
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That son of a carebear got what he deserved! |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2887
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Posted - 2015.11.06 07:47:56 -
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NEUR0TOX wrote:That son of a carebear got what he deserved! hehe, need more Russian cursing in here
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2895
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Posted - 2015.11.10 09:03:43 -
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I wish our friends from Big Johnson's good luck in their future. Was a fun war with great intel
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Julius Maagnus
The Clown Shoe Crew Short Bus Mercenaries.
29
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Posted - 2015.11.11 01:45:28 -
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Kashan wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Our daily fleets are getting bigger every time. It's harder to stay unnoticed. Went to RvB HQ, all stayed docked, went to PIRAT HQ, all docked up. We might want to split the fleet in smaller groups or provoke more nullbear fleets to come to highsec. If null bears come to highsec, you'll be the ones docking ;).
I find it amusing you would say something like this. If you look at every null entities track record in fighting in highsec, I think you will see that they cant really do ****. Castabouts came up from null to fight us.... got their **** pushed in, CO2 came up to fight us, got their **** pushed in (they actually had enough they should have whelped us, but they are terribad)... Gewnz cant manage a fleet op outside of tidi (game speeds too fast, brain speeds too slow) so no. I dont think a null entity will win a fight against Marmites for the foreseeable future.
If you frenchfry when you should pizza, you're going to have a bad time.
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Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
4156
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Posted - 2015.11.11 01:54:51 -
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Julius Maagnus wrote:Kashan wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Our daily fleets are getting bigger every time. It's harder to stay unnoticed. Went to RvB HQ, all stayed docked, went to PIRAT HQ, all docked up. We might want to split the fleet in smaller groups or provoke more nullbear fleets to come to highsec. If null bears come to highsec, you'll be the ones docking ;). I find it amusing you would say something like this. If you look at every null entities track record in fighting in highsec, I think you will see that they cant really do ****. Castabouts came up from null to fight us.... got their **** pushed in, CO2 came up to fight us, got their **** pushed in (they actually had enough they should have whelped us, but they are terribad)... Gewnz cant manage a fleet op outside of tidi (game speeds too fast, brain speeds too slow) so no. I dont think a null entity will win a fight against Marmites for the foreseeable future.
I love you guys, really, but that's just not the full reality. When I was in BL, we got decced every other week by one merc corp or another. The reason why null groups get "beat" is that they rarely even trouble themselves to fly, oh, 50 fckin jumps just to fight, when in all honesty the majority of war targets would just dock up. And who could blame them?? If we had gone, we would have been flying around 150 tengus with logistics. It's not the same fight. Highsec engagements don't get that large, and no matter the individual skill of the mercs involved, there isn't a way to win that.
It's very true lots of the highsec guys are great pilots, but let's not count catching the few guys on supply runs, or the small gang that comes down to fight you for the lols as the sacking of Troy, shall we?
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
330
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Posted - 2015.11.11 01:57:10 -
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Julius Maagnus wrote:Kashan wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Our daily fleets are getting bigger every time. It's harder to stay unnoticed. Went to RvB HQ, all stayed docked, went to PIRAT HQ, all docked up. We might want to split the fleet in smaller groups or provoke more nullbear fleets to come to highsec. If null bears come to highsec, you'll be the ones docking ;). I find it amusing you would say something like this. If you look at every null entities track record in fighting in highsec, I think you will see that they cant really do ****. Castabouts came up from null to fight us.... got their **** pushed in, CO2 came up to fight us, got their **** pushed in (they actually had enough they should have whelped us, but they are terribad)... Gewnz cant manage a fleet op outside of tidi (game speeds too fast, brain speeds too slow) so no. I dont think a null entity will win a fight against Marmites for the foreseeable future.
its a pity it can only be a one way comparison, not like any mercbear fleets would goto lowsec let alone null.
theres a large difference between sitting on the jita undock/pipe systems farming solo players from null with triple sebo'd ships, than a properly formed fleet fight. |
Valkin Mordirc
1636
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Posted - 2015.11.11 03:07:17 -
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O thy classic fight of null to high,
Of course a Nullsec corp could totally welp Marmite, or any other Mercbear (Diggin the term) dude and dudette out there. However Convincing 150+ Pilots to make a trip to Highsec and try to fight a merc corp would be pointless. It's such a large fleet it would instantly be noticed and avoided. Why would you willingly throw 30+ Dudes into a meat grinder?
It would be pointless.
Also Mercs go into Lowsec all the time, Nullsec not so much as most of us rock very shiny pods. Again it would be a near pointless unless your intent is to lose that pod in a beautiful firey death. So again whatever. And a lot of Merc have alts in other area's of EVE, WH Lowsec Nullsec, Like many EVE players with multiple accounts.
And they're are a ton of Highly skilled Mercs out there. Yeah some quad sebo a Gnosis and sit on a gate not expect someone to shoot back. That comes with the Alliance sadly. But Completely disregarding decent to truly good pilots just because they are in highsec is stupid and likely, Just like the quad Sebo'ed Gnosis who doesn't expect to fight, will take a Nullbear by surprise when suddenly his Loki is getting destroyed by a Dual XL-ASB Cyclone.
SO
Obviously, saying anything on the matter is trollish and a waste of time because. Like Really. Come on.
My 2cents on the matter anyways.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
330
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Posted - 2015.11.11 03:56:53 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote: Obviously, saying anything on the matter is trollish and a waste of time because. Like Really. Come on.
My 2cents on the matter anyways.
I get ppl have alts.
hi-sec mercs are doing darwins work on null allainces, multiple warning mails, the wardec notices themselves, but still the nullbear alt still pops into jita to fit out / sell his item.
The funny thing is, most of the ones dying to that are the same ones not in any intel channels in there 3b faction fit tengu dying to garmur in a plex.
Think its easy to kill nullbears in HS? its easier in null, only the same risk of loss applies to you which is why i have 0 respect for merc corps that don't leave HS.
mercs goto lowsec all the time? who and im not talking "my alt" either? link a recent battle from any of the currently listed mercbear corps here Vs an actual enemy fleet that they were paid to take down, i hope you can.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
2299
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Posted - 2015.11.11 08:18:09 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Julius Maagnus wrote:Kashan wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Our daily fleets are getting bigger every time. It's harder to stay unnoticed. Went to RvB HQ, all stayed docked, went to PIRAT HQ, all docked up. We might want to split the fleet in smaller groups or provoke more nullbear fleets to come to highsec. If null bears come to highsec, you'll be the ones docking ;). I find it amusing you would say something like this. If you look at every null entities track record in fighting in highsec, I think you will see that they cant really do ****. Castabouts came up from null to fight us.... got their **** pushed in, CO2 came up to fight us, got their **** pushed in (they actually had enough they should have whelped us, but they are terribad)... Gewnz cant manage a fleet op outside of tidi (game speeds too fast, brain speeds too slow) so no. I dont think a null entity will win a fight against Marmites for the foreseeable future. I love you guys, really, but that's just not the full reality. When I was in BL, we got decced every other week by one merc corp or another. The reason why null groups get "beat" is that they rarely even trouble themselves to fly, oh, 50 fckin jumps just to fight, when in all honesty the majority of war targets would just dock up. And who could blame them?? If we had gone, we would have been flying around 150 tengus with logistics. It's not the same fight. Highsec engagements don't get that large, and no matter the individual skill of the mercs involved, there isn't a way to win that. It's very true lots of the highsec guys are great pilots, but let's not count catching the few guys on supply runs, or the small gang that comes down to fight you for the lols as the sacking of Troy, shall we? We aren't talking about killing lone people here Leto these entities have literally put up proper fleets and come to highsec to 'prove a point' and gotten their faces smashed or been avoided cause honestly who is going to have the numbers in highsec for 50 man t3 fleets at the drop of a hat . That said they lose because they don't appreciate the mechanics at play in Highsec. It's not Lowsec or Nullsec...
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Don Purple
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1335
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Posted - 2015.11.11 10:32:24 -
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I miss you guys!
Always entertaining content in this thread. I once watched juliois scan the wrong gate for a pod for 15m.
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Xai
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.11.11 11:12:03 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Julius Maagnus wrote:Kashan wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Our daily fleets are getting bigger every time. It's harder to stay unnoticed. Went to RvB HQ, all stayed docked, went to PIRAT HQ, all docked up. We might want to split the fleet in smaller groups or provoke more nullbear fleets to come to highsec. If null bears come to highsec, you'll be the ones docking ;). I find it amusing you would say something like this. If you look at every null entities track record in fighting in highsec, I think you will see that they cant really do ****. Castabouts came up from null to fight us.... got their **** pushed in, CO2 came up to fight us, got their **** pushed in (they actually had enough they should have whelped us, but they are terribad)... Gewnz cant manage a fleet op outside of tidi (game speeds too fast, brain speeds too slow) so no. I dont think a null entity will win a fight against Marmites for the foreseeable future. I love you guys, really, but that's just not the full reality. When I was in BL, we got decced every other week by one merc corp or another. The reason why null groups get "beat" is that they rarely even trouble themselves to fly, oh, 50 fckin jumps just to fight, when in all honesty the majority of war targets would just dock up. And who could blame them?? If we had gone, we would have been flying around 150 tengus with logistics. It's not the same fight. Highsec engagements don't get that large, and no matter the individual skill of the mercs involved, there isn't a way to win that. It's very true lots of the highsec guys are great pilots, but let's not count catching the few guys on supply runs, or the small gang that comes down to fight you for the lols as the sacking of Troy, shall we? We aren't talking about killing lone people here Leto these entities have literally put up proper fleets and come to highsec to 'prove a point' and gotten their faces smashed or been avoided cause honestly who is going to have the numbers in highsec for 50 man t3 fleets at the drop of a hat . That said they lose because they don't appreciate the mechanics at play in Highsec. It's not Lowsec or Nullsec...
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jack1974
Reikoku Pandemic Legion
41
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Posted - 2015.11.11 18:43:27 -
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I have always enjoyed the fight argument between nullsec entities and highsec entities. Having been apart of both I believe we should also include wormhole entities to the mix. To be honest and realistic every fleet chest beats when they are at their max and manufactures excuses when they get outplayed.
Here are some humorous examples from some of my past experiences since I've been on both sides of the fence:
1. Was in a frigate fleet comprised of 10 people and Ivy League scouted us. We shipped down t3's and brought over guardians while Ivy League formed a 30 man destroyer gang to kill our "frigates." They jumped into system assuming they had superiority so we warped to the gate and slaughtered them.
2. I was camping the Amarr undock killing TEST with some friends until local spiked by 100. A few moments later 80 hurricanes landed on the station. We docked and logged because I was no longer the biggest fish in local.
3. Tackled a Hard Knocks proteus with a 100mn tengu and then local spiked by 30. A few moments later 6 guardians, 2 bhaalgorns, 4 lokis, 2 neut legions, and 16 proteus's arrived. I warped away because the fleet was too pretty to look at.
4. I was autopiloting my carrier in lowsec depressed because nobody wanted to tackle my "defenseless" carrier. I felt high and mighty because there were 40 aeons in my fleet expecting me to get tackled.
5. I showed up to a operation that was in the books for a few days. I believe we had 100 t3's and 30 logi to go clown. We got 1 jump out to fight the goons expecting to fight a 200 man fleet but we were wrong. The goons formed 2 tengu fleets(400 tengus and 80 scimitars) instead of one and were still pinging to form a 3rd. We went home because why?
6.(my favorite) A small PL roaming gang took a wormhole chain into goonspace and tackled a few ratting carriers. A ping went out so we formed 50 or so ishtars and started taking the chain to kill the carriers. I believe we got through 6 carriers before more goon carriers started to jump in. Looking at the intel the goons were advertising the tackled carriers as "HUGE FIGHT WITH PL, LOG IN EVERYTHING" and started to ping nonstop. With the continuous influx of carriers arriving on grid we chose to pull range and watch the sheep stumble over each other to get to this "epic" fight. I think around the 100th carrier landing on grid we decided to warp to the wormhole and go home. After 15 minutes of wormhole travel home and docking up our intel reported the goons were still pinging. Some say they are still pinging.....
We can all brag about the time we had our crap together and someone wouldn't fight but in the grand scheme of things numbers hold the most weight in a fleet fight. The goons have proven this time and time again if you are to ever fight an opponent who is smarter than you, faster than you, and better liked than you, just throw nerds at the problem until its fixed.
Even fair fights are hard to come by in Eve but they are the reason most of us keep playing. The feeling of barely winning or the feeling of barely losing are so closely related it is almost addicting. Opponent surviving in structure? Killing a ship as the downtime timer hits 2 seconds? Jumping gate when 100 dreadnaughts target you? Getting point on the enemy FC right as he fleet warps his comrades away?
With all of this said I believe I indirectly covered the point I'm trying to make. We are all playing king of the hill resulting in good fights and bad fights. The big lesson I have learned from all of these experiences is this; The more people you have in your fleet, the less fun you will have. |
Julius Maagnus
The Clown Shoe Crew Short Bus Mercenaries.
31
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Posted - 2015.11.11 19:03:20 -
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Im just going to say one more thing on the topic. 1. Sure.... you nullbears have many more people to fleet..... Sure. not going to debate that. 2. Mercs go to lowsec all the time, Null is typically reserved for carebears and their wars.... 3. Your big ass fleets in null dont mean **** in highsec.
Im just going to leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2kENWXeUnc (we should have lost... fight was over before it got started)
If you frenchfry when you should pizza, you're going to have a bad time.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2909
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Posted - 2015.11.12 11:13:05 -
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jack1974 wrote:With all of this said I believe I indirectly covered the point I'm trying to make. We are all playing king of the hill resulting in good fights and bad fights. The big lesson I have learned from all of these experiences is this; The more people you have in your fleet, the less fun you will have. Nice post Jack.
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Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
4159
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Posted - 2015.11.12 16:10:58 -
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jack1974 wrote:The big lesson I have learned from all of these experiences is this; The more people you have in your fleet, the less fun you will have.
That's pretty subjective. It's different styles of game play.. I for one prefer the smaller gang fights and would agree with you, but on the flip side I know many buddies who love the epic scale of massive fleet fights.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
4159
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Posted - 2015.11.12 16:15:53 -
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Julius Maagnus wrote:Im just going to say one more thing on the topic. 1. Sure.... you nullbears have many more people to fleet..... Sure. not going to debate that. 2. Mercs go to lowsec all the time, Null is typically reserved for carebears and their wars.... 3. Your big ass fleets in null dont mean **** in highsec. Im just going to leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2kENWXeUnc (we should have lost... fight was over before it got started)
Yeah mate, most nullsec powerhouses are terrified of you I wasn't in any bear alliance, it was fckin Black Legion, rest its soul.
Most mercs (not all) do NOT go into lowsec. Most are too killboard proud to worry about losing something.
And a very, very select merc groups will venture into null/WH space for fear of losing their pods.
But honestly its apples and oranges. Two entirely different concepts of combat. Beat your chest about slaughtering nullbois in highsec, but don't dare come out to their turf? Please.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
9123
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Posted - 2015.11.12 16:30:08 -
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Are you guys still Huntin' Holey?
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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jack1974
Reikoku Pandemic Legion
46
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Posted - 2015.11.12 19:16:56 -
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Leto Thule wrote:jack1974 wrote:The big lesson I have learned from all of these experiences is this; The more people you have in your fleet, the less fun you will have. That's pretty subjective. It's different styles of game play.. I for one prefer the smaller gang fights and would agree with you, but on the flip side I know many buddies who love the epic scale of massive fleet fights.
I wasn't saying this was a preference, I was insinuating the larger a fleet gets their chances of receiving a fight goes down.
jack1974 wrote: 5. I showed up to a operation that was in the books for a few days. I believe we had 100 t3's and 30 logi to go clown. We got 1 jump out to fight the goons expecting to fight a 200 man fleet but we were wrong. The goons formed 2 tengu fleets(400 tengus and 80 scimitars) instead of one and were still pinging to form a 3rd. We went home because why?
To tie your statement with my experience, the goons had so many people like your buddies fleet up, they forced themselves out of a fight by being too large. This is what I was getting at.
I know people like big fleet fights but too much water can put the fire out. |
Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
4162
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Posted - 2015.11.12 19:44:53 -
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jack1974 wrote:Leto Thule wrote:jack1974 wrote:The big lesson I have learned from all of these experiences is this; The more people you have in your fleet, the less fun you will have. That's pretty subjective. It's different styles of game play.. I for one prefer the smaller gang fights and would agree with you, but on the flip side I know many buddies who love the epic scale of massive fleet fights. I wasn't saying this was a preference, I was insinuating the larger a fleet gets their chances of receiving a fight goes down. jack1974 wrote: 5. I showed up to a operation that was in the books for a few days. I believe we had 100 t3's and 30 logi to go clown. We got 1 jump out to fight the goons expecting to fight a 200 man fleet but we were wrong. The goons formed 2 tengu fleets(400 tengus and 80 scimitars) instead of one and were still pinging to form a 3rd. We went home because why?
To tie your statement with my experience, the goons had so many people like your buddies fleet up, they forced themselves out of a fight by being too large. This is what I was getting at. I know people like big fleet fights but too much water can put the fire out.
Ah, got it. Travel days are hell on my comprehensive skills
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