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JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:47:00 -
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Andrey Wartooth wrote:[quote=JitaPriceChecker2]
Uh, you do know that Solar was not part of the NC right? They were actually part o the -A- Wagon back then and were fighting against the NC.
NO ? I remember shooting SOLAR abbadons in geminate so stop posting because you have no clue.
They may be fighintg now but not when OLD NC falled. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2012.07.11 13:05:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:
Uh, you do know that Solar was not part of the NC right? They were actually part o the -A- Wagon back then and were fighting against the NC.
NO ? I remember shooting SOLAR abbadons in geminate so stop posting because you have no clue. They may be fighintg now but not when OLD NC falled.
Really? Do you have any evidence to back this up, faceless person?
Quote:Red Alliance offshoot, consisting largely of the corps Solar Dragons and Russian SOBR, and led by the former leader of RA, MACTEP. SDG and RUSSO had been focused largely on fighting in the drone regions, while the rest of RA cared little about it; there was some drama, and those two corps split. Relations between RA and SF remain friendly (SF still uses the RA killboard, for example).
Solar Fleet made a lot of waves by allying with Intrepid Crossing and Ethereal Dawn while they were fighting Red Alliance and many of the smaller members of the Northern Coalition. Solar Fleet's involvement caused Red Alliance and Majesta Empire to pull out of the war to avoid conflict with Solar Fleet. Solar Fleet likely did this to ensure that they had allies in the Drone Regions in the event that the NC invades the Drone Regions.
Compounding the awkwardness, Solar Fleet has apparently allied with AAA, KenZoku, and Triumvirate while attempting to seize control of Geminate away from Wildly Inappropriate. Since WI is a member of the Northern Coalition, this put them at war with TCF, RAZOR, and many other alliances also blue to us. As of August 2009 they are still fighting NC and have skirmished in southern Geminate and northern Cobalt Edge close to Tenal. |
Lord Zim
1019
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Posted - 2012.07.11 13:44:00 -
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forestwho wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:
Edit: Blap titans were almost as game breaking as remote Doomsdays. Perhaps moreso.
Atleast they were getting fixed, ring mining gets introduced in winterpatch prolly november thats alot of tech isk to be bottled up untill that time If only CCP would hurry up and fix tech so we could place bets on what people like you would whine about next. |
baltec1
Bat Country
1628
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Posted - 2012.07.11 13:56:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:baltec1 wrote:forestwho wrote:Like i said, i can pull out numbers out my ass aswel, im not saying they are right, im just saying his numbers were more wrong than mine This is different to the NC and its colossal income how? LOL NC died due to botted and rmted supercarriers that were buffed prior to invasion. So no NC did't die because grunts mobilized and because of "effort"
NC lost because their vast numbers failed to turn up to fights. The supers just speeded up the implosion. |
Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
651
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:01:00 -
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NC had more supers than the DRF at first. Furthermore, both sides had equal time to build more after the changes, and the war started long after said changes.
TL;DR your theory is **** |
Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
651
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:03:00 -
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Oh ya, and Raiden and co were already beat before the titan tracking nerf...which actually wasn't that huge of a nerf anyway, the big difference being that they can't clear bubblers off of each other anymore. Titans can still ownzone battleships and are a huge boost to fleets.
TL;DR your theory is doubly **** |
Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
148
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:15:00 -
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Spurty wrote: Not sure why everyone wants to fight over null sec ... People camping Jita undock / gates are ahead of the curve with regards to effort / risk / reward
shhh, dont tell everyone ffs. qfmjt-1 |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
399
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:20:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:forestwho wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:
Edit: Blap titans were almost as game breaking as remote Doomsdays. Perhaps moreso.
Atleast they were getting fixed, ring mining gets introduced in winterpatch prolly november thats alot of tech isk to be bottled up untill that time If only CCP would hurry up and fix tech so we could place bets on what people like you would whine about next. My bets are on members of Goonswarm exploiting a bug in the game for profit again, while all the Goon forum posters claim it was not really an exploit or Goonswarm election rigging or Goonswarm embarrassing this game internationally via online gaming magazines or a Goonswarm member complaining, CCP threw him/her under a bus.
I could go on but there seems to be a pattern emerging. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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March rabbit
R.I.P. Legion Red Alliance
213
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:21:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:Onictus wrote:http://soundcloud.com/sindel-pellion/titan
LOL who sang it so I can, throw them some isk. That was hilarios. I'm guessing Sindel Pellion of TEST. I'm glad you are taking losing all your space so well. Why so serious? I'm just a hired gun, on my end, all I need is a target, an FC, and maybe a Titan pilot to get me there and I'm happy, if I'm in SOV space or NPC means no nevermind to me. I didn't move to null to build outposts and fuel POS's. i guess those guys are happy that their leader will have more systems to lend and put bots into. Nice to see so big adherence Maybe they even support their RL governments |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sev3rance
90
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:45:00 -
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Xython wrote:Lucy Ferrr wrote:Xython wrote:Spurty wrote: Not sure why everyone wants to fight over null sec ... People camping Jita undock / gates are ahead of the curve with regards to effort / risk / reward
Holding tech doesn't affect them. Only concern they have is that Jita doesn't get it's trillions of ISK brought in / out every few hours
Also, I think you're vastly mistaken re: Tech profits. If you got 7000 players together and had them doing something in highsec, like say, mission running, or Ice botting, or crafting ships or something, you'd see similar profits. Tech is just what Goons "do" right now, because of a lucky happenstance with Goon space and moon goo. T The difference is there are not 7000 people mining moon goo. I don't how many people exactly you have tending to POS but I am sure it's just a small handful. A handful of people making the same amount of isk (almost completely passively may I add) as 7000 people actively running missions or mining ice. Sure, a small handful of people tending to POS... and an army of people offering required logistics support to ensure that handful of people can actually DO the moon mining in the first place. Don't try the false comparison bullshit there, it won't work. It's not 5 guys and a single spreadsheet leading to a trillion ISK a month in tech profits; it's the work of thousands of people in the Swarm working together. Nullsec isn't Highsec, we have no CONCORD to hold our hands and wipe our... noses for us. If you want to start making real money in EVE, it's time to take off the training wheels and move out of Highsec. And CCP needs to get off their asses and move MORE money out of Highsec, because the Risk/Reward is so screwed up it's not even funny.
Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons. |
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Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
144
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:48:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons.
you say that as if all of the tech moons in the game were specifically given to the goons by some benevolent higher being. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1812
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:50:00 -
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forestwho wrote:[quote=Degren]The best part of the thread are the 11 upvotes to the OP.
Someone agrees with you, keep posting!
Maybe you can dethrone them together! Stop trolling or i report it and just simply get your posts removed.
I was being deadly serious, sir. What is stopping you?
PS: I wish we got notices when people quoted our posts. Such comedy gold
Better consult the chart. |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sev3rance
90
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:13:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Twulf wrote:Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons. you say that as if all of the tech moons in the game were specifically given to the goons by some benevolent higher being.
You act as if Goons had any risk when they took the moons, they zerg and scammed their way to the tech moons. They have numbers and numbers win in EvE. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1814
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:14:00 -
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Twulf wrote:They have numbers and numbers win in EvE.
Make friends, boss. Better consult the chart. |
Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
147
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:16:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Dave stark wrote:Twulf wrote:Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons. you say that as if all of the tech moons in the game were specifically given to the goons by some benevolent higher being. You act as if Goons had any risk when they took the moons, they zerg and scammed their way to the tech moons. They have numbers and numbers win in EvE.
quoting a nice shade of green. |
baltec1
Bat Country
1629
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:19:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Dave stark wrote:Twulf wrote:Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons. you say that as if all of the tech moons in the game were specifically given to the goons by some benevolent higher being. You act as if Goons had any risk when they took the moons, they zerg and scammed their way to the tech moons. They have numbers and numbers win in EvE.
Tell that to BFF NC. |
Ping Pang Pong
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.07.11 18:22:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:forestwho wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:
Edit: Blap titans were almost as game breaking as remote Doomsdays. Perhaps moreso.
Atleast they were getting fixed, ring mining gets introduced in winterpatch prolly november thats alot of tech isk to be bottled up untill that time If only CCP would hurry up and fix tech so we could place bets on what people like you would whine about next.
Fixing tech won't do anything to immediately effect the way things are. You guys have been bathing in moon goo for what, 3 years now? Pulling in something like 15 billion a month per moon over three years means your coffers are good and padded. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1009
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:13:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons.
What's that? Why yes, we are better at EVE than you, thank you for noticing. :)
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1009
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:14:00 -
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Ping Pang Pong wrote:Lord Zim wrote: If only CCP would hurry up and fix tech so we could place bets on what people like you would whine about next.
Fixing tech won't do anything to immediately effect the way things are. You guys have been bathing in moon goo for what, 3 years now? Pulling in something like 15 billion a month per moon over three years means your coffers are good and padded.
Er, 1 trillion a month. That's 1000 billion, for those of you who can't count. Padded is not the word.
And that's only Tech, that's not counting our other industrial interests, as well as the market manipulation games we do all the time to make isk et all. Tech profits allow for some really rad ways of investing isk to make more isk, after all. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:16:00 -
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Ping Pang Pong wrote:
I would say that falls in the line of the Goons being given just about everything they have.
I would say this falls in line with you not knowing what you are talking about, noted NPC forums poster Fing Fang Foom. |
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Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:17:00 -
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Xython wrote:Twulf wrote:Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons. What's that? Why yes, we are better at EVE than you, thank you for noticing. :)
Having friends in this social game owns, doesn't it? I think a lot of the posters in this thread could use some friends, because clearly they haven't got any. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1009
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:42:00 -
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Andrey Wartooth wrote:Xython wrote:Twulf wrote:Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons. What's that? Why yes, we are better at EVE than you, thank you for noticing. :) Having friends in this social game owns, doesn't it? I think a lot of the posters in this thread could use some friends, because clearly they haven't got any.
I'm torn. I love to solo rat, and solo **** in other MMOs. So I "get" the whole "**** friends" thing. At the same time, you can't beat having 7000 friends at your back if **** hits the fan.
I just wish EVE had group PVE content. Don't bother saying "Incursions" -- they were destroyed in that patch and are worthless. |
Jonah Gravenstein
601
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:54:00 -
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Xython wrote: I just wish EVE had group PVE content. Don't bother saying "Incursions" -- they were destroyed in that patch and are worthless.
c5 & c6 + cap escalations are an absolute isk farm if you do them right, and the PvP is free if it's in someone elses wormhole. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Lord Zim
1021
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:00:00 -
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Ping Pang Pong wrote:You guys have been bathing in moon goo for what, 3 years now? Pulling in something like 15 billion a month per moon over three years means your coffers are good and padded. Given the fact we dissolved barely over 2 years ago, and TCF dissolved less than 1.5 years ago, I'm going to go with "you're wrong".
Ping Pang Pong wrote:The Goons were given half of their tech moons by an alliance that moved out of the system/dissolved. The remainder of the moons were taken after CCP decided to nerf tracking on super caps out of the blue, and goons blobbed everything with sub-caps.
I would say that falls in the line of the Goons being given just about everything they have. We took most of our tech before titan tracking was tweaked. So again, I'm going to go with "you're wrong".
Hope that helps. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1009
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:08:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Xython wrote: I just wish EVE had group PVE content. Don't bother saying "Incursions" -- they were destroyed in that patch and are worthless.
c5 & c6 + cap escalations are an absolute isk farm if you do them right, and the PvP is free if it's in someone elses wormhole.
Ya know, that's one thing I never have gotten into at all -- Wormhole stuff. Might be fun to look into it. |
Garreth Vlox
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:17:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:Only question i have is why cant a stage an attack on undefended moons to raid them of goo. Does it magically transport the huge distance between moon and pos? If small gangs could blow up the ships transporting the goo to the safe pos, gangs of 5-10 players could make an impact raiding supply lines.
Small defense fleets would form to catch them.
Small gang warfare could come back to null sec.
Also if your an allaince with so many systems that 70% of them are empty most of the time, you deserve to have your passive income stolen by brave pilots. It would promote smaller sov space. Come on its perfect !
I've marked the important part, if you think that is how it would work you have never been in null sec. You **** with a moon that makes an alliance as much isk a month as a tech moon does and you will get blobbed. No self respecting alliance is going to tolerate you poking their money supply line.
ALSO:
This is just another way to try and circumvent actually taking the moon, here's a thought, how about instead of trying to scheme CCP on the forums into adding a game mechanic that allows you to attack a POS without actually attacking, you just go find some people fleet up and shoot the ******* thing. And as far as the you're a big alliance and you leave systems empty so I should be allowed to steal from you, try that in real life and see how long it takes some one to try and shoot you for stealing **** out of their back yard. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1178
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:17:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Ping Pang Pong wrote:You guys have been bathing in moon goo for what, 3 years now? Pulling in something like 15 billion a month per moon over three years means your coffers are good and padded. Given the fact we dissolved barely over 2 years ago, and TCF dissolved less than 1.5 years ago, I'm going to go with "you're wrong". Ping Pang Pong wrote:The Goons were given half of their tech moons by an alliance that moved out of the system/dissolved. The remainder of the moons were taken after CCP decided to nerf tracking on super caps out of the blue, and goons blobbed everything with sub-caps.
I would say that falls in the line of the Goons being given just about everything they have. We took most of our tech before titan tracking was tweaked. So again, I'm going to go with "you're wrong". Hope that helps. Besides all the tech money goes back out as reimbursements, so the people that get blown up are who benefit. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Cameron Cahill
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:35:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Dave stark wrote:Twulf wrote:Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons. you say that as if all of the tech moons in the game were specifically given to the goons by some benevolent higher being. You act as if Goons had any risk when they took the moons, they zerg and scammed their way to the tech moons. They have numbers and numbers win in EvE.
How does one scam someone out of a tech moon? I don't think even we've managed that. |
Jonah Gravenstein
601
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:37:00 -
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Xython wrote: Ya know, that's one thing I never have gotten into at all -- Wormhole stuff. Might be fun to look into it.
3 things to remember, wormholes are like gates with mass limits and a lifetime either of which will close it, always have probe launchers fitted to at least 50% of your fleet and bookmarks, bookmark everything especially your exit. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1178
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:38:00 -
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Cameron Cahill wrote:Twulf wrote:Dave stark wrote:Twulf wrote:Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons. you say that as if all of the tech moons in the game were specifically given to the goons by some benevolent higher being. You act as if Goons had any risk when they took the moons, they zerg and scammed their way to the tech moons. They have numbers and numbers win in EvE. How does one scam someone out of a tech moon? I don't think even we've managed that. Nope.
Apparently we have ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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