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Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2004.12.02 05:57:00 -
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Edited by: Dimitri Chandler on 02/12/2004 06:01:15 A corpmate of mine got ripped off by RagnarH of Shinra in a scam that involved the selling of characters for isk.
This is utterly beyond belief and only goes against the attempts of CCP to stop players selling accounts and characters for real life cash.
link: Linkage
be warned.
CCP, do something about this please.
"Your bullets cannot harm me, my wings are like a shieeeeeeeeeld of steeeeel!!!" |
Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2004.12.02 05:57:00 -
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Edited by: Dimitri Chandler on 02/12/2004 06:01:15 A corpmate of mine got ripped off by RagnarH of Shinra in a scam that involved the selling of characters for isk.
This is utterly beyond belief and only goes against the attempts of CCP to stop players selling accounts and characters for real life cash.
link: Linkage
be warned.
CCP, do something about this please.
"Your bullets cannot harm me, my wings are like a shieeeeeeeeeld of steeeeel!!!" |
Xendie
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Posted - 2004.12.02 06:19:00 -
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the sweet atuk karma catching up?
i love shinra atm
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Xendie
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Posted - 2004.12.02 06:19:00 -
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the sweet atuk karma catching up?
i love shinra atm
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Crimson Djinn
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Posted - 2004.12.02 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitri Chandler Edited by: Dimitri Chandler on 02/12/2004 06:01:15 A corpmate of mine got ripped off by RagnarH of Shinra in a scam that involved the selling of characters for isk.
This is utterly beyond belief and only goes against the attempts of CCP to stop players selling accounts and characters for real life cash.
link: Linkage
be warned.
CCP, do something about this please.
I sense whine.
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Crimson Djinn
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Posted - 2004.12.02 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitri Chandler Edited by: Dimitri Chandler on 02/12/2004 06:01:15 A corpmate of mine got ripped off by RagnarH of Shinra in a scam that involved the selling of characters for isk.
This is utterly beyond belief and only goes against the attempts of CCP to stop players selling accounts and characters for real life cash.
link: Linkage
be warned.
CCP, do something about this please.
I sense whine.
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Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2004.12.02 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Crimson Djinn
I sense whine.
Well, not really, I personally couldn't give that much of a toss. I just think that this kind of behaviour goes against what CCP is trying to do and only serves to make auction sites a more attractive option to those who do choose to buy characters.
"Your bullets cannot harm me, my wings are like a shieeeeeeeeeld of steeeeel!!!" |
Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2004.12.02 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Crimson Djinn
I sense whine.
Well, not really, I personally couldn't give that much of a toss. I just think that this kind of behaviour goes against what CCP is trying to do and only serves to make auction sites a more attractive option to those who do choose to buy characters.
"Your bullets cannot harm me, my wings are like a shieeeeeeeeeld of steeeeel!!!" |
FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.12.02 07:50:00 -
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I think it's low ...better to shoot them in Yulai then to do this, if u hate them ...Sux!
Low
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********************************************************* Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!! |
FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.12.02 07:50:00 -
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I think it's low ...better to shoot them in Yulai then to do this, if u hate them ...Sux!
Low
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********************************************************* Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!! |
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Space Debris
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Posted - 2004.12.02 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie the sweet atuk karma catching up?
i love shinra atm
Who on earth are you ?? Ragnars alt ?
The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face
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Space Debris
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Posted - 2004.12.02 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie the sweet atuk karma catching up?
i love shinra atm
Who on earth are you ?? Ragnars alt ?
The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2004.12.02 11:35:00 -
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hehehehe __
There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2004.12.02 11:35:00 -
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hehehehe __
There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
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RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.12.02 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitri Chandler CCP, do something about this please.
what, ban me for making ATUK member send me 250m ? This char is perm banned on forums :S |
RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.12.02 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitri Chandler CCP, do something about this please.
what, ban me for making ATUK member send me 250m ? This char is perm banned on forums :S |
Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2004.12.02 11:49:00 -
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Yes, you used an out of game scam. *tut tut*
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2004.12.02 11:49:00 -
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Yes, you used an out of game scam. *tut tut*
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2004.12.02 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: RagnarH
Originally by: Dimitri Chandler CCP, do something about this please.
what, ban me for making ATUK member send me 250m ?
I couldn't give a toss who gave you isk or how much. I couldn't give a toss who you are in game. I don't care what happens to your account or characters. If you want 250m so bad you can have it off me twice if you want to be that much of a charity case.
Point is you scammed using an out of game tactic to get a player, not a character, to give you in-game currency. The character you were purportedly selling has absolutely nothing to do with your main character. Therefore its the player, not the character that is at fault here. The point of my post is that CCP have allowed character trading for isk as an alternative to the selling of accounts on ebay etc. What you have done shows the community that this is not a safe option at the moment. It is a breach of the community's trust. What I am asking CCP to do is change the process to make it secure.
You can scam my characters all you like - thats a part of the game. If you had scammed senz for a battleship bpo that turned out to be a probe bpc then I would say "well done, good scam".
The fraud you are engaged in has no place in an online game and I would say with confidence that 95% of the community agrees with me.
"Your bullets cannot harm me, my wings are like a shieeeeeeeeeld of steeeeel!!!" |
Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2004.12.02 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: RagnarH
Originally by: Dimitri Chandler CCP, do something about this please.
what, ban me for making ATUK member send me 250m ?
I couldn't give a toss who gave you isk or how much. I couldn't give a toss who you are in game. I don't care what happens to your account or characters. If you want 250m so bad you can have it off me twice if you want to be that much of a charity case.
Point is you scammed using an out of game tactic to get a player, not a character, to give you in-game currency. The character you were purportedly selling has absolutely nothing to do with your main character. Therefore its the player, not the character that is at fault here. The point of my post is that CCP have allowed character trading for isk as an alternative to the selling of accounts on ebay etc. What you have done shows the community that this is not a safe option at the moment. It is a breach of the community's trust. What I am asking CCP to do is change the process to make it secure.
You can scam my characters all you like - thats a part of the game. If you had scammed senz for a battleship bpo that turned out to be a probe bpc then I would say "well done, good scam".
The fraud you are engaged in has no place in an online game and I would say with confidence that 95% of the community agrees with me.
"Your bullets cannot harm me, my wings are like a shieeeeeeeeeld of steeeeel!!!" |
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DeMundus
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Posted - 2004.12.02 13:12:00 -
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Normally I would not go out in public with my opinion, but I have to agree with Dimitri here, this ia a out of game trade and RagnarH ffs! But I would like to point out RagnarH is not all of Shinra and I know the Don Shinra will be trying to put things right.
DeMundus Capodecina of Shinra
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DeMundus
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Posted - 2004.12.02 13:12:00 -
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Normally I would not go out in public with my opinion, but I have to agree with Dimitri here, this ia a out of game trade and RagnarH ffs! But I would like to point out RagnarH is not all of Shinra and I know the Don Shinra will be trying to put things right.
DeMundus Capodecina of Shinra
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Heero Yuy
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Posted - 2004.12.02 13:25:00 -
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RagnarH i have fought you many times pal but what you tried do made me lose all respect for you. Trying to rip people off like that is just sad and irresponsible.... Really disappointed that a player like you would do such a thing
Makes me think you sold your account and some noob is now pretending to be you. I did think you had some honour. Perhaps i was wrong. |
Heero Yuy
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Posted - 2004.12.02 13:25:00 -
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RagnarH i have fought you many times pal but what you tried do made me lose all respect for you. Trying to rip people off like that is just sad and irresponsible.... Really disappointed that a player like you would do such a thing
Makes me think you sold your account and some noob is now pretending to be you. I did think you had some honour. Perhaps i was wrong. |
Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2004.12.02 15:01:00 -
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Respect to Chow and co for kicking this guy from Shinra.
They have also apologised on our TS. Honourable actions indeed.
"Your bullets cannot harm me, my wings are like a shieeeeeeeeeld of steeeeel!!!" |
Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2004.12.02 15:01:00 -
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Respect to Chow and co for kicking this guy from Shinra.
They have also apologised on our TS. Honourable actions indeed.
"Your bullets cannot harm me, my wings are like a shieeeeeeeeeld of steeeeel!!!" |
Estios
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Posted - 2004.12.02 15:02:00 -
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DeMundus dont worry dude, a lot of ATUK go back a long way with a lot of Shinra and share a lot of mutual respect.
I see the kickage has occurred , nice one !!
Dimitri's post was superb, a lot of players want to give up 2nd accounts/chars and the ingame isk trade is the only way to do it. Tards like him are ruining that one and only option for everyone else, Ive wanted to buy AND sell chars but I just dont trust it atm.
Maybe RagnarH can find some other scammers to be in his new lonely corp
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.12.02 15:02:00 -
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DeMundus dont worry dude, a lot of ATUK go back a long way with a lot of Shinra and share a lot of mutual respect.
I see the kickage has occurred , nice one !!
Dimitri's post was superb, a lot of players want to give up 2nd accounts/chars and the ingame isk trade is the only way to do it. Tards like him are ruining that one and only option for everyone else, Ive wanted to buy AND sell chars but I just dont trust it atm.
Maybe RagnarH can find some other scammers to be in his new lonely corp
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Solant
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Posted - 2004.12.02 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitri Chandler Edited by: Dimitri Chandler on 02/12/2004 06:01:15 A corpmate of mine got ripped off by RagnarH of Shinra in a scam that involved the selling of characters for isk.
This is utterly beyond belief and only goes against the attempts of CCP to stop players selling accounts and characters for real life cash.
link: Linkage
be warned.
CCP, do something about this please.
While I don't care for scammers or back up what they do..
You are wrong if you think CCP can really do much about this. Quite frankly, an ingame transaction of money can be anything.. that 250M could have been a gift, and the real payment for the character could have been 100M later on. How can anyone really tell? All they know is, one character tossed another character some ISK. You coming here and saying things like "this goes against the attemprs of CCP to stop players selling account for RL cash" is like so many noobs crying because they died to rats without insurance. This has nothing to do with selling characters for real money, what are you talking about? And how is it beyond belief? This kind of thing is rampant in all online games. It should be expected.
My condolences to your friend, this guy defenitely deserved to get his corp tag removed, but there are always risks involved when you are selling something that is not normally sellable using the ingame trade methods, and its not generally the GMs job to deal with these issues.
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Solant
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Posted - 2004.12.02 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitri Chandler Edited by: Dimitri Chandler on 02/12/2004 06:01:15 A corpmate of mine got ripped off by RagnarH of Shinra in a scam that involved the selling of characters for isk.
This is utterly beyond belief and only goes against the attempts of CCP to stop players selling accounts and characters for real life cash.
link: Linkage
be warned.
CCP, do something about this please.
While I don't care for scammers or back up what they do..
You are wrong if you think CCP can really do much about this. Quite frankly, an ingame transaction of money can be anything.. that 250M could have been a gift, and the real payment for the character could have been 100M later on. How can anyone really tell? All they know is, one character tossed another character some ISK. You coming here and saying things like "this goes against the attemprs of CCP to stop players selling account for RL cash" is like so many noobs crying because they died to rats without insurance. This has nothing to do with selling characters for real money, what are you talking about? And how is it beyond belief? This kind of thing is rampant in all online games. It should be expected.
My condolences to your friend, this guy defenitely deserved to get his corp tag removed, but there are always risks involved when you are selling something that is not normally sellable using the ingame trade methods, and its not generally the GMs job to deal with these issues.
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