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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente The Knights Who Say Pew
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Posted - 2010.05.17 17:52:00 -
[601]
Originally by: Space Pinata
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Thank you for pointing out how stupid it is to squable about resumes when you have much better smear material.
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Space Pinata
Amarr Discount Napkin Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.17 17:55:00 -
[602]
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
Originally by: Space Pinata
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Thank you for pointing out how stupid it is to squable about resumes when you have much better smear material.
You're a tool.
I'm pointing out that it's you (and like minded individuals) keeping that argument going.
Some ankh detracters post a ******ed argument and you're milking it as hard as you can to avoid having to answer to the real things that make your candidate worthless.
Then again, that's her entire campaign platform. "Say bull****, ignore it when it comes back to haunt me, scare carebears".
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente The Knights Who Say Pew
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Posted - 2010.05.17 18:01:00 -
[603]
Originally by: Space Pinata
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
Originally by: Space Pinata
*snip
Thank you for pointing out how stupid it is to squable about resumes when you have much better smear material.
You're a tool.
I'm pointing out that it's you (and like minded individuals) keeping that argument going.
Some ankh detracters post a ******ed argument and you're milking it as hard as you can to avoid having to answer to the real things that make your candidate worthless.
Then again, that's her entire campaign platform. "Say bull****, ignore it when it comes back to haunt me, scare carebears".
Wear tin foil hats much?
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Malaclypse Muscaria
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Posted - 2010.05.17 18:03:00 -
[604]
Originally by: Space Pinata Ank makes me cry
Don't worry , if she gets elected, it'll be my personal pleasure to lick your tears dry.
Here, here, have some milk and cookies too. No need act like a complete emotard over some selective and decontextualized quotes someone may have said under a certain situation or another. If you don't like her and what she says, don't vote for her, simple.
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente The Knights Who Say Pew
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Posted - 2010.05.17 18:24:00 -
[605]
Originally by: Space Pinata *bunch of quotes taken out of context
Oh brother... I actually looked at the thread you got them from. After checking a few posts it just became blatantly clear that you are ripping things out of context again. Did not continue to check further.
And you still whine about ppl not responding to this garbage?
And like stated b4: get pretty much anyones chatlogs and forum posts and you can 'prove' just about anything about them.
If you had mine you could prolly 'prove' I was a pedophile, a white supremacist, a ****-jew with a leather fetish, a communist, a capitalist, a terrorist, a homosexual tranny and a gangsta rapper.
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.17 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller ]No, the nit picking about the resume is just that: nit picking. Going on and on about it just to make someone look bad is trolling. Anyone making a point about that clearly has his or her priorities wrong or is just plain trolling. Pick whatever suits you best
No, seriously, stop trolling. Disagreeing with you is not trolling. Claiming it is, is trolling. Having different priorities than you is not trolling, nor is the definition of having the wrong priorities "disagreeing with you". Claiming it is, you guessed it.
Just stop trolling. Speaking of which:
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller smear material.
Calling Ank's own words "smears" just shows that you are willing to use obvious lies in order to troll in support of her. Stop it.
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller *bunch of quotes taken out of context
Wow, you guys hit the talking points real quick. If you can't handwave away Ank's own words as "smears", then, why, they must be "out of context"! Except, of course there's still no context in which those comments aren't nuts. Unless of course your claim is that before all those quotes, Ank said "I don't really believe that..."
Otherwise, she was endorsing the ideas. The ideas are nuts. Therefore, there is no context in which endorsing nuts ideas is not nuts. But please, provide the full quotes and show us the context in which her words become non-nuts. |
Aliariam
Caldari The First Church of the Azure Carrot The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.17 18:40:00 -
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Since context is so important, please re-read this chat log posted in it's entirety, no lack of context possible... In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. Terry Pratchett |
Arcathra
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Posted - 2010.05.17 18:55:00 -
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Wow, some people do really have "problems" do start such a smear campaign against a candidate... disgusting...
However Ankh has my vote. I like the topics and her focus in the CSM and I think she will represent my play style and me as a player very good. And I think she can seperate her very own opinions from her work as a CSM.
I wish you good luck Ankh, don't let those trolls bother you |
Dariah Stardweller
Gallente The Knights Who Say Pew
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Posted - 2010.05.17 19:04:00 -
[609]
Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller ]No, the nit picking about the resume is just that: nit picking. Going on and on about it just to make someone look bad is trolling. Anyone making a point about that clearly has his or her priorities wrong or is just plain trolling. Pick whatever suits you best
No, seriously, stop trolling. Disagreeing with you is not trolling. Claiming it is, is trolling. Having different priorities than you is not trolling, nor is the definition of having the wrong priorities "disagreeing with you". Claiming it is, you guessed it.
Just stop trolling. Speaking of which:
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller smear material.
Calling Ank's own words "smears" just shows that you are willing to use obvious lies in order to troll in support of her. Stop it.
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller *bunch of quotes taken out of context
Wow, you guys hit the talking points real quick. If you can't handwave away Ank's own words as "smears", then, why, they must be "out of context"! Except, of course there's still no context in which those comments aren't nuts. Unless of course your claim is that before all those quotes, Ank said "I don't really believe that..."
Otherwise, she was endorsing the ideas. The ideas are nuts. Therefore, there is no context in which endorsing nuts ideas is not nuts. But please, provide the full quotes and show us the context in which her words become non-nuts.
1) I never claimed disagreeing with me is trolling, that's the spin you are giving to it. Claiming I am claiming that disagreeing with me is trolling, is well, trolling.
2) Having quotes from someone where he or she uses strong language is better material for 'making someone look bad'(some ppl might call it SMEARING ) than argueing about how you should list unpaid work on your resume. Don't tell me you can't see that simple fact?
3) and yes, they are taken out of context, go see for yourself. Like the part about 'psycho virgins' or something. Ank is quoted calling players something like that. What the quote does not show is that she only copied that of the previous poster. http://eve-search.com/thread/715249/page/1#29
See, now that is taking things out of context. It's just one example but I cba to post more atm.
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Leil Ren'Do
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Posted - 2010.05.17 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
See, now that is taking things out of context. It's just one example but I cba to post more atm.
That's because everything that has been quoted was not out of context at all. It showed your ignorance and I'm afraid to say malignance in it's fullest and sadest glory.
Everytime somebody disagrees with you and backs it up with arguments you dismiss it as troll. At first I thought you were just beining dim but in the run of this thread it kinda appeared to me you really believe that. It appears you're the kind of weltfremd person who lives in her own fanatasy believing herself somekind of genius. You will dismiss all critizism and experiences to the contrary as false or as personal attacks.
Why do you think the other carebear candidates are not getting the responses you get?
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari The Phoenix Enclave Astro Lux Aedificatiae
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Posted - 2010.05.17 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: Miyamoto Isoruku on 17/05/2010 19:55:49
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller 3) and yes, they are taken out of context, go see for yourself. Like the part about 'psycho virgins' or something. Ank is quoted calling players something like that. What the quote does not show is that she only copied that of the previous poster. http://eve-search.com/thread/715249/page/1#29
Finally a substantive critique. Unfortunately I don't think the context makes Ankh look any better:
Originally by: Ankh's post
Originally by: Alowishus It's just a game. People who get so upset about an internet space game are obviously antisocial psychopathic virgins.
People that use a game to get their enjoyment by frustrating other people definately are antisocial psychopatic virgins
But by all means read the original thread.
EDIT: Also snipe
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Malaclypse Muscaria
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Posted - 2010.05.17 20:04:00 -
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WHOA!
Stop the presses! Ank is definitely guilty of counter-trolling someone on the forums, two years ago!
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The biggest lulz ofc is how you guys still totally fail to realize how retarded it is be so incredibly hung-up and butthurt over such things.
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.17 20:19:00 -
[613]
Edited by: FinnAgain Zero on 17/05/2010 20:22:47
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller 1) I never claimed disagreeing with me is trolling
You just did right above. You just said that if someone believes that her resume is significant then they are just "nit picking" and trolling. That was you, saying it, just now.
Originally by: you, doing what you've just denied doing
the nit picking about the resume is just that: nit picking. Going on and on about it just to make someone look bad is trolling.
Why is it that so many of Ank's supporters argue this way?
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
2) Having quotes from someone where he or she uses strong language is better material for 'making someone look bad'(some ppl might call it SMEARING
They'd be liars engaged in trolling. The point is not that she "used bad language", but that she endorsed a number of insane ideas that would hurt EVE. You know this, because people have told you over and over and over again and yet you dishonestly describe it in terms you know to be false.
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
3) and yes, they are taken out of context
- You posted one thing, if you want to refute more, you need to actually do that. - As it is, you didn't even refute that one quote, as nothing changes in full context. Someone says "It's just a game. People who get so upset about an internet space game are obviously antisocial psychopathic virgins." Ank responds " People that use a game to get their enjoyment by frustrating other people definately are antisocial psychopatic virgins"
It is dishonest for you to claim that this somehow shows that she wasn't saying what she said.
But yes, Miya is right, progress is being made. Now instead of claiming that those who disagree with you about the importance of things are trolling, accept that people can have subjective preferences without trolling Ank (even if you really, really like her). And if you claim that quotes are out of context, show how the context actually changes them. All we've seen so far is that in response to someone saying that people who get upset about EVE are psychopathic virgins, Ank endorsed the idea that gankers are psychopathic virgins. That doesn't absolve her by any means. |
Leil Ren'Do
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Posted - 2010.05.17 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Malaclypse Muscaria WHOA! The biggest lulz ofc is how you guys still totally fail to realize how retarded it is be so incredibly hung-up and butthurt over such things.
Pro tip: Posting a smiley in every post does not make you look less ******ed and butthurt. The other way around actually.
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Malaclypse Muscaria
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Posted - 2010.05.17 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Leil Ren'Do Pro tip: Posting a smiley in every post does not make you look less ******ed and butthurt. The other way around actually.
It pleases me to see how closely you've been following every post of mine.
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Wicked Child
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Posted - 2010.05.17 21:16:00 -
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This whole thread, has sold me on Ank*nametolongtotype*kah. The amount of fear, drooling, hate spewing, and stalking generated by the simple mention of her name speaks volumes.
She has the nullsec / lowsec/ ganker warriors afraid, and thats a good thing. Fear the AnkBear for she will one day rule the galaxy.
She gets all 5 of my votes :D
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Leil Ren'Do
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Posted - 2010.05.17 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Wicked Child This whole thread, has sold me on Ank*nametolongtotype*kah. The amount of fear, drooling, hate spewing, and stalking generated by the simple mention of her name speaks volumes.
She has the nullsec / lowsec/ ganker warriors afraid, and thats a good thing. Fear the AnkBear for she will one day rule the galaxy.
She gets all 5 of my votes :D
Before you do esteemed and mentally stable voter, please consider she's a complete ****** and there are alternatives for anti nullsec/lowsec/ganker warriors as yourself. Check out this candidate Linkage Just for the carebear voter's consideration.
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Sigmorhair
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.05.17 23:35:00 -
[618]
To be honest the level of "pvp play" is pretty low in this game, especially on the corp/alliance level. It would be nice to make the PVE experience better and maybe get some fresh blood into the game.
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drake duka
Minmatar D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.05.18 02:42:00 -
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Ankhesentapemkah: Please post a video pronouncing your name and explaining its origin.
I've heard plenty of trolls/insults/**** talking in my time playing EVE, but I must say blaming a mother for her sons autism takes the cake. (Autism is not hereditary, just so you know)
CCP: Please introduce a kind of vote which cancels out a vote for a candidate, I do not follow the CSM closely so I'm not fit to vote, I do however know exactly who I don't want in CSM.
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Space Pinata
Amarr Discount Napkin Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.18 02:53:00 -
[620]
Originally by: Wicked Child This whole thread, has sold me on Ank*nametolongtotype*kah. The amount of fear, drooling, hate spewing, and stalking generated by the simple mention of her name speaks volumes.
She has the nullsec / lowsec/ ganker warriors afraid, and thats a good thing. Fear the AnkBear for she will one day rule the galaxy.
She gets all 5 of my votes :D
You are either:
1) A troll or
2) A bitter person who wants to spite others for the loss of your poorly fit internet spaceship.
Please choose one. |
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.05.18 03:20:00 -
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I haven't read all of this thread but it seems to be about the journey of a confused 8 year old girl with multiple personalities. Sad. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.18 05:30:00 -
[622]
Originally by: drake duka Ankhesentapemkah: Please post a video pronouncing your name and explaining its origin.
I've heard plenty of trolls/insults/**** talking in my time playing EVE, but I must say blaming a mother for her sons autism takes the cake. (Autism is not hereditary, just so you know)
CCP: Please introduce a kind of vote which cancels out a vote for a candidate, I do not follow the CSM closely so I'm not fit to vote, I do however know exactly who I don't want in CSM.
If you want to cast an anti-Ankh vote, I'd advise Dierdra Vaal. Judging by her past runs, Ankh has an effectively guaranteed seat on the council, and I frankly expect her to do well enough to make a serious play for Chair. DV is the other serious contender for that spot that I can see, and he's generally a reasonable fellow.
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.18 06:49:00 -
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aaaaahhhhhh: i have an idea for the next CSM campaign aaaaahhhhhh: greate an alt... named.... Ankhesentapemkaa aaaaahhhhhh: and ill get a buddy of mine to supply the passport aaaaahhhhhh: repeat for number of buddies with passports
MAZZILLIU FOR CSM 2010 CHECK OUT MY CAMPAIGN VIDEO |
Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2010.05.18 10:02:00 -
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Is one of her issues with "pirates" that CVA got kicked out of Providence? So little dear Eva lost her stuff and 0.0 access? Navy Domi loss in highsec too?
Dominix Navy Issue Ankhesentapemkah Frarn (0.8) 04/26/10 13:47:00
And not exactly PvP stats. Lifetime kills 9 Lifetime losses 141
I guess you tried it, failed and then went on QQ emorage.
H0h0!
Adapt or die as we say. --------------------------------------
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Dariah Stardweller
Gallente Gung-Ho
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Posted - 2010.05.18 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: FinnAgain Zero Edited by: FinnAgain Zero on 17/05/2010 20:22:47
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller 1) I never claimed disagreeing with me is trolling
You just did right above. You just said that if someone believes that her resume is significant then they are just "nit picking" and trolling. That was you, saying it, just now.
Originally by: you, doing what you've just denied doing
the nit picking about the resume is just that: nit picking. Going on and on about it just to make someone look bad is trolling.
Why is it that so many of Ank's supporters argue this way?
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
2) Having quotes from someone where he or she uses strong language is better material for 'making someone look bad'(some ppl might call it SMEARING
They'd be liars engaged in trolling. The point is not that she "used bad language", but that she endorsed a number of insane ideas that would hurt EVE. You know this, because people have told you over and over and over again and yet you dishonestly describe it in terms you know to be false.
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
3) and yes, they are taken out of context
- You posted one thing, if you want to refute more, you need to actually do that. - As it is, you didn't even refute that one quote, as nothing changes in full context. Someone says "It's just a game. People who get so upset about an internet space game are obviously antisocial psychopathic virgins." Ank responds " People that use a game to get their enjoyment by frustrating other people definately are antisocial psychopatic virgins"
It is dishonest for you to claim that this somehow shows that she wasn't saying what she said.
But yes, Miya is right, progress is being made. Now instead of claiming that those who disagree with you about the importance of things are trolling, accept that people can have subjective preferences without trolling Ank (even if you really, really like her). And if you claim that quotes are out of context, show how the context actually changes them. All we've seen so far is that in response to someone saying that people who get upset about EVE are psychopathic virgins, Ank endorsed the idea that gankers are psychopathic virgins. That doesn't absolve her by any means.
1) Tell me how the resume thingy is relevant then.
You either are trolling, or you lack the ability to focus on the things that matter if you think that it is relevant. And that's what I said. YOU twisted it into "everyone not agreeing with me is trolling". You're setting up straw man to make me look bad. That is trolling in my book...
2) Her ideas are far from insane in my book. She has very valid points if she says that outlaws have it too easy in hi sec. Hell, even a lot of the pirate crowd says they don't care about sec stat cause you can still move about pretty much freely as long as you don't autopilot and hover in one spot. For the record: I don't think pirates are mentally challenged or immoral or something like that. In that respect I seem to disagree with Ank.
3) Yes, Ank threw the psycho virgins comment right back in the trolls face. Or maybe you want to deny that comments like that are trolling? If you then quote only ank, you are taking things out of context, which was my point...
4) No, I'm not going to nit pick about every quote and post it. Anyone who does not suffer from tunnel vision can read the thread or one of the billion other threads or chatlogs posted here and see that things are taken out of context.
5)If you want to have a serious discussion, stop twisting my words and start admitting things are being taken out of context, when they are indeed taken out of context, like my example, since this repeat mode is kinda tiresome
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Stroh Blatz
Gallente Dirty Martini Clinical Operations
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Posted - 2010.05.18 12:21:00 -
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Stop High Sec terrorism! Suiciders should get an immediate -10 penalty.
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente Gung-Ho
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Posted - 2010.05.18 12:53:00 -
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*mental note: do not get sucked in to everlasting threadnaughts next CSM election....
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Space Pinata
Amarr Discount Napkin Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.18 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Space Pinata on 18/05/2010 14:49:47 I like the people who prey on those too lazy to read the thread. "Oh, yeah, it's just trolling, Ankh said it, but yknow, the -context-..."
There is no context in which a representative should be throwing insults at people. There is no context in which she should openly state that a demographic is inferior, and needs to be punished, not only in the context of the game but in person.
Yes, she did bring up a 'mental institution', and on a softer note, temporary/permenant bans for 'antisocial pvp activity'.
You can cover your ears (unless you're an Ankh alt, which would not surprise me) and pretend none of these things were said, or that they're out of context, but here's the rub...
Ankh has not denied any of those comments. She has not apologized for any of those comments. If they were not what she truly believed, I think she would say so, don't you? She's had, what, 12 pages to simply say "I was angry at the time, I don't feel that way" or "My opinion has changed" or.. yknow, anything?
But she won't do that. She won't deny the statements because she still believes in them, and thinks silence is the best way to deal with it.
And why not? Other, bitter carebears will read that and cast a vote thinking they'll get back at all those evil mean griefers. And, so long as she can have alts / blind followers saying 'It's not real, it's out of context'.. well then. That offers protection from anyone who might be offended, provided they're easily lied to.
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tl;dr:
Answer me this, if you can't answer the rest, O Poorly Disguised Alt:
How is a thread where Ankh(you) rant about changes she wants to criminal activity, followed by a tirade of insults to the PVP crowd, out of context in proving that Ankh is biased? You can see her opinions. They are extreme.
They are openly stated in that thread, not revoked, etc.
Saying they're out of context is like saying that, if a politician said "I hate <minority group> and think they are all worthless", it would be OK as long as it was not an official press release. Clearly, if it's not an 'official' (Read: Riddled with half truths and lies to sound good) statement, it's not how they feel, right?
Edit: Just throwing out an 'in before' this post is ignored to pick apart something easier, or a massive rant against a single line. |
Edith Bunker
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Posted - 2010.05.18 15:02:00 -
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Boost Concord! Boost Hulk efficiency!
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Wicked Child
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Posted - 2010.05.18 15:48:00 -
[630]
I may not agree with some of Ank's idea's, but i must say that DO agree with many of her idea's. I think having a voice on the CSM that is different and shakes things up is great.
Love it or hate it, there is a large player base in the game that holds the same beliefs as Ank. These people want their voice and ideas heard and Ank will bring those ideas to CCP through the CSM process if elected.
Eve is a sandbox, and in my opinion Ank is just asking for more tools to build her idea of a great Sand Castle. I like that.
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