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Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:14:00 -
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What is the time that a corp needs to set up properly so that it can have daily ops and stuff.
Any tips on recruitment threads?
I just started a corp and its very difficult to get players let alone experience players, i guess nobody wants the hassle of helping to start a solid corp. I guess i am the only one taking on this challenge, well there's 3 of us now.
Also is it attractive for hardcore eve players that my corp will definitely have a strong dust side.
Thx in advance for your responses
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Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
297
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:24:00 -
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What do you wan't to do with the Corp?
That's kind of the biggest thing when you're starting. -RubyPorto
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
178
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:30:00 -
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Dust isnt properly out yet and it has yet to be seen how much of a cross over there really is going to be, and to what degree. People are going to wait n see on that front. - Nulla Curas |

Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
1
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:33:00 -
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Well it has to serve as a cash cow for our Dust endeavors but also want to give the hardcore eve player a great experience.
This corp is founded from a clan that was on PS3 and wants to spread into more since dust is coming out.
And i think we will need some experience players for PvP in eve and orbital strikes delivered through eve into the dust side.
So..... http://evesigs.b-accent.com/91884041.jpg
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Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:34:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Dust isnt properly out yet and it has yet to be seen how much of a cross over there really is going to be, and to what degree. People are going to wait n see on that front.
I know that but from what i know now, features will opened bit by bit until its fully opened http://evesigs.b-accent.com/91884041.jpg
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1888
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:37:00 -
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The single best piece of advice for starting a corp, IMO, is to hold off doing it until you already have a decently sized group of like-minded friends. A corp has to start with a community, or it likely won't ever go much farther than being a failed patchwork of corp-hoppers and non-contributors. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
1
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:40:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:The single best piece of advice for starting a corp, IMO, is to hold off doing it until you already have a decently sized group of like-minded friends. A corp has to start with a community, or it likely won't ever go much farther than being a failed patchwork of corp-hoppers and non-contributors.
I thought some one would say that and i agree with this, we are to few at this moment. But even corps with only up to 20 people have hard times so i guess i will also have to persevere a bit, i know there are still some people coming in, just have to wait for them. http://evesigs.b-accent.com/91884041.jpg
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Mme Pinkerton
74
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:42:00 -
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Preacher Garra wrote: Any tips on recruitment threads?
Why does EVE need yet another corp? What are existing corporations doing wrong that you can do better?
If you have good answers to these questions you will find recruits.
If your only answer is "I am the most awesome CEO you will ever have" you have a problem as people can only verify that statement after having joined you - but you might still grow as you achieve notoriety.
If you don't have any answer, then why are you creating a corporation in the first place? An IPO guide (David H'Levi) | Towards a Positive Argument For Investing (RAW23) | Freighter Operations 101 (Kazuo Ishiguro) | Dominion market analysis (Akita T)
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Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
871
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:50:00 -
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Im afraid I think going at it at teh angle "building a corp that will support our Dust play" is probably a bad idea, people dont want a corp that supports something else, they want a corp that is built for its members. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
1
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:50:00 -
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Mme Pinkerton wrote:Preacher Garra wrote: Any tips on recruitment threads?
Why does EVE need yet another corp? What are existing corporations doing wrong that you can do better? If you have good answers to these questions you will find recruits. If your only answer is "I am the most awesome CEO you will ever have" you have a problem as people can only verify that statement after having joined you - but you might still grow as you achieve notoriety. If you don't have any answer, then why are you creating a corporation in the first place?
Well ask yourself this then? What is the eve universe gonna do with all those dust corps that will have a eve side.
The only thing that i can come up with is that we will want to offer PvP runs in low and null sec to cover our dust buddies. Industry and mining ops of course. We have a TS server and are good people if thats not enough then that's too bad.
What ever happens i will continue with this corp, i just want a lot of feedback.
Thx Mme Pinkerton
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Mme Pinkerton
74
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:53:00 -
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Preacher Garra wrote:Well ask yourself this then? What is the eve universe gonna do with all those dust corps that will have a eve side.
The only thing that i can come up with is that we will want to offer PvP runs in low and null sec to cover our dust buddies. Industry and mining ops of course. We have a TS server and are good people if thats not enough then that's too bad.
What ever happens i will continue with this corp, i just want a lot of feedback.
Thx Mme Pinkerton
wrote an addition to my original post but re-posting it here for visibility:
The most common mistake new corporations make is that they are afraid to lose potential applicants and instead try to cater to every possible gamestyle - they would be better off finding a (relatively) unoccupied niche (think along the lines of "Finnish corporations that specialize in BlackOps warfare") and sticking with it. An IPO guide (David H'Levi) | Towards a Positive Argument For Investing (RAW23) | Freighter Operations 101 (Kazuo Ishiguro) | Dominion market analysis (Akita T)
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Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
1
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:54:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:Im afraid I think going at it at teh angle "building a corp that will support our Dust play" is probably a bad idea, people dont want a corp that supports something else, they want a corp that is built for its members.
Well Rico i understand the hardcore EVE player is not interested, but this corp will not be supporting another one, it will be the same corp.
TLN is a console clan that will be in dust and to have some support we will be in eve also. to me it sound kinda logical you would have both sides. the eve side will be the cash cow and diplomatic side of things. But also provide the orbital bombings in the long run. http://evesigs.b-accent.com/91884041.jpg
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Stoogie
Cadre Assault Force
36
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:54:00 -
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Best bet is to make sure (as others have said) that you have a group of like minded people who really want to do the same things as you. If you only have a few people or your new to eve and want to pvp try Faction warfare to get the ball rolling because your not just relying on your corp members to be active and motivated. Also if your new to eve as much as you hate the idea joining a bigger corp for 6 months is a better plan or you can just stagnate. You might find you love the new corp and want to help merge your two communities or you'll learn what the corp you joined did right and wrong while hopefully learning from those mistakes.
When I first set up my corp I made a few mistakes and tried to lead a new alliance straight off the bat and it basically built to a 500 man alliance in 2 weeks and fail cascaded back down within 6. I learnt from those mistakes and while I still make some I lead a fairly successful pvp corp in which real life comes first so the amount of people playing ebbs and flows. My other main bit of advice is have a plan cos if you don't have one people have nothing to work towards get bored and either quit or go afk in place. |

Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
1
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:55:00 -
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Mme Pinkerton wrote:Preacher Garra wrote:Well ask yourself this then? What is the eve universe gonna do with all those dust corps that will have a eve side.
The only thing that i can come up with is that we will want to offer PvP runs in low and null sec to cover our dust buddies. Industry and mining ops of course. We have a TS server and are good people if thats not enough then that's too bad.
What ever happens i will continue with this corp, i just want a lot of feedback.
Thx Mme Pinkerton
wrote an addition to my original post but re-posting it here for visibility as "Industry and mining ops of course." caught my eye: The most common mistake new corporations make is that they are afraid to lose potential applicants and instead try to cater to every possible gamestyle - they would be better off finding a (relatively) unoccupied niche (think along the lines of "Finnish corporations that specialize in BlackOps warfare") and sticking with it.
Ok i like that that's not a bad idea, i will think about that.
thx there Mme Pinkerton http://evesigs.b-accent.com/91884041.jpg
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Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:57:00 -
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Stoogie wrote:Best bet is to make sure (as others have said) that you have a group of like minded people who really want to do the same things as you. If you only have a few people or your new to eve and want to pvp try Faction warfare to get the ball rolling because your not just relying on your corp members to be active and motivated. Also if your new to eve as much as you hate the idea joining a bigger corp for 6 months is a better plan or you can just stagnate. You might find you love the new corp and want to help merge your two communities or you'll learn what the corp you joined did right and wrong while hopefully learning from those mistakes.
When I first set up my corp I made a few mistakes and tried to lead a new alliance straight off the bat and it basically built to a 500 man alliance in 2 weeks and fail cascaded back down within 6. I learnt from those mistakes and while I still make some I lead a fairly successful pvp corp in which real life comes first so the amount of people playing ebbs and flows. My other main bit of advice is have a plan cos if you don't have one people have nothing to work towards get bored and either quit or go afk in place.
Well the corp should not be bigger than 50 people in the end and alliances will be looked for much later in the game. Alliances are hard to lead i know, its a lot of upkeep to take care off.
thx for the advice though,
It starting to look like i have to rethink my strategy here. http://evesigs.b-accent.com/91884041.jpg
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pussnheels
450
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Posted - 2012.07.09 10:12:00 -
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like many of the posters pointed out you need a well defined goal and purpose for your corporation, and put that in your recruiting poster Tell people what your goals are and what you can offer them , make sure you don't promise them things you can not fulfill and work for that goal , people tend to be more loyal if there is a common goal
Male sure you delegate some of the workload to directors , make sure those are people you can really trust, if thezre is something possible like that in EVE
be warned it isn't easy and i seen my share of CEO s and directors leave the game because of a burn out organize and be there for your members when they have questions or have a problem
But most of all have a set of goals your members can work toward as a team
small tip if you are planning a industrial corp with research , put up some pos towers in high sec now ( if you got the standing ) before you start recruiting they don't have to be online till needed and nobody of your members needs to know till they ready to use them I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
1
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Posted - 2012.07.09 10:46:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:like many of the posters pointed out you need a well defined goal and purpose for your corporation, and put that in your recruiting poster Tell people what your goals are and what you can offer them , make sure you don't promise them things you can not fulfill and work for that goal , people tend to be more loyal if there is a common goal
Male sure you delegate some of the workload to directors , make sure those are people you can really trust, if thezre is something possible like that in EVE
be warned it isn't easy and i seen my share of CEO s and directors leave the game because of a burn out organize and be there for your members when they have questions or have a problem
But most of all have a set of goals your members can work toward as a team
small tip if you are planning a industrial corp with research , put up some pos towers in high sec now ( if you got the standing ) before you start recruiting they don't have to be online till needed and nobody of your members needs to know till they ready to use them
Well the people that i delegate some of the tasks to will be people i have known for a while and are to be trusted, new people will have to show loyalty, which i am very big on.
Explain the pos tower thing a bit more, i might have someone that can do that. Also what will it take to get the standing? http://evesigs.b-accent.com/91884041.jpg
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Stoogie
Cadre Assault Force
36
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Posted - 2012.07.09 11:16:00 -
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basically your corp standings are based off the players in your corp who have been in corp for 7 days. So as your corp grows keeping the standings with one of the 4 nations becomes more difficult. As for grinding standings and how they work I'd sugest the eve wiki or google. Also watch these youtube presentations from a few years ago at fanfest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHAmJtCJDo and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZR41Sgg5Zc&feature=relmfu |

pussnheels
450
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Posted - 2012.07.09 11:25:00 -
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Preacher Garra wrote:pussnheels wrote:like many of the posters pointed out you need a well defined goal and purpose for your corporation, and put that in your recruiting poster Tell people what your goals are and what you can offer them , make sure you don't promise them things you can not fulfill and work for that goal , people tend to be more loyal if there is a common goal
Male sure you delegate some of the workload to directors , make sure those are people you can really trust, if thezre is something possible like that in EVE
be warned it isn't easy and i seen my share of CEO s and directors leave the game because of a burn out organize and be there for your members when they have questions or have a problem
But most of all have a set of goals your members can work toward as a team
small tip if you are planning a industrial corp with research , put up some pos towers in high sec now ( if you got the standing ) before you start recruiting they don't have to be online till needed and nobody of your members needs to know till they ready to use them Well the people that i delegate some of the tasks to will be people i have known for a while and are to be trusted, new people will have to show loyalty, which i am very big on. Explain the pos tower thing a bit more, i might have someone that can do that. Also what will it take to get the standing?
if you intend to use a high sec pos for research , you need atleast a corpstanding of 5.0 with the faction that owns the space where you are setting up your pos only for high sec Since the corporate standing is calculated from the average faction standing of all your corpmembers that have been member of your corp for more than 7 days , it becomes almost impossible for a corporation to set up a pos when their corp start growing faction standing is gained thru either storyline missions , cosmos agents , database agents epic mission arcs etc
there is a good article about it in the eve wiki , sadly i can't acces this right now , maybe somebody else will be so good I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
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Posted - 2012.07.09 11:33:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:Preacher Garra wrote:pussnheels wrote:like many of the posters pointed out you need a well defined goal and purpose for your corporation, and put that in your recruiting poster Tell people what your goals are and what you can offer them , make sure you don't promise them things you can not fulfill and work for that goal , people tend to be more loyal if there is a common goal
Male sure you delegate some of the workload to directors , make sure those are people you can really trust, if thezre is something possible like that in EVE
be warned it isn't easy and i seen my share of CEO s and directors leave the game because of a burn out organize and be there for your members when they have questions or have a problem
But most of all have a set of goals your members can work toward as a team
small tip if you are planning a industrial corp with research , put up some pos towers in high sec now ( if you got the standing ) before you start recruiting they don't have to be online till needed and nobody of your members needs to know till they ready to use them Well the people that i delegate some of the tasks to will be people i have known for a while and are to be trusted, new people will have to show loyalty, which i am very big on. Explain the pos tower thing a bit more, i might have someone that can do that. Also what will it take to get the standing? if you intend to use a high sec pos for research , you need atleast a corpstanding of 5.0 with the faction that owns the space where you are setting up your pos only for high sec Since the corporate standing is calculated from the average faction standing of all your corpmembers that have been member of your corp for more than 7 days , it becomes almost impossible for a corporation to set up a pos when their corp start growing faction standing is gained thru either storyline missions , cosmos agents , database agents epic mission arcs etc there is a good article about it in the eve wiki , sadly i can't acces this right now , maybe somebody else will be so good
Thanks but as we have only 3 members right now it will be fine. I will read the wiki cause i need to know what skills one of us needs
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D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.07.09 12:50:00 -
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The corp I run is along side one of my best friends. We are only four players large with 10 accounts total. Though we do exactoy how anyother corp plays, its all about the atmosphere of your corp.
Ours is probably near every other immature corp out there. If you say please we will kick your teeth in. We like it rough and gritty to scare off any people that cant take criticism or just too much of a ***** lol, maybe thats why we are so small, but it works and we make billions of isk a month between the four of us while playing other games together. Starcraft, DotA, BF3, etc. Thats what makes us a little bit more unique is that we just are all more friends than corpmates. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |

Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
1
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Posted - 2012.07.09 13:31:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:The corp I run is along side one of my best friends. We are only four players large with 10 accounts total. Though we do exactoy how anyother corp plays, its all about the atmosphere of your corp.
Ours is probably near every other immature corp out there. If you say please we will kick your teeth in. We like it rough and gritty to scare off any people that cant take criticism or just too much of a ***** lol, maybe thats why we are so small, but it works and we make billions of isk a month between the four of us while playing other games together. Starcraft, DotA, BF3, etc. Thats what makes us a little bit more unique is that we just are all more friends than corpmates.
LOL, you guys seem like a lot of fun maybe we can fleet up some time. I am all about fun plus i am a carebear as long as you don't F*** with me.
Add me as a contact
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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
265
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Posted - 2012.07.09 13:58:00 -
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Just a point, dust is suppose to have an impact on planetary interaction (pi). I would spend time and effort learning thus aspect of eve. It doesn't take a long time to train the basic skills needed, plus it can give your corp some starting income. Build from there. Offer a corp that can provide pi support and logistics. Later, expand from there. For example, you couls go into manufacturing items that use your pi products such as pos fuel. |

Tyraeil Starblade
Ronin Wing
13
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Posted - 2012.07.09 14:03:00 -
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1 Man corps are the best, actually.
You don't need members annoying you. |

AndromacheDarkstar
Phantom Brigade Inc.
3
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Posted - 2012.07.09 15:39:00 -
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Ive started up and then shut down two corps so far, took them both up quite high in numbers but couldnt handle the time drain in the end, it stopped me from donig what i like to do in eve, getting killed by other players and pumping up their killboards.
My main piece of advice would be think carefully about what your doing. It takes allot of time and effort to run a corp well, you need one clear purpose and some long term goals to keep people interested and you need to be moving towards those all the time.
Do not ever give any power to anyone you dont know extremely well unless you get to be massive, there is no need to do it otherwise and all it does is open you up to trouble. Dont be too harsh with asking people to be on at specific times but do be strict with time zones, all that will happen is they will leave you in the future anyway when no one is on in their timezone to play.
Dont be afraid of recruiting new players but be aware of the extra time needed to help them out, i would always advise people to go to the starting areas and recruit there, you get good numbers quikcly and your helping EVE as a whole by teaching new people how to play and getting them through the trial.
Keep people informed of what your doing and set your tax rate low, dont treat people as a way to earn isk. They are your friends and eventually they will make your gaming experiance better.
Do not keep money in corp accounts or items in corp hangars when your small, its pointless. Be prepared, you will get war decced and that scares new people so tell them about it, make instant undock safes where you live and help make their lives a bit easier when it inevtibly happens.
Consider faction warfare if your into your pvp, its a great place ot recruit like minded people, just get vocal in the FW chat box and start leading some fleets.
Lastly dont be a tool, be nice and be helpfull and be online allot, if your not any of those things your donig the wrong job.
Thats all just my opinion and ive never run a corp over 50 members so id hardly call myself all knowing but its all i can pass on from my experiance. Hope it helps |

veshna wildsun
Darkstar Galactic
18
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Posted - 2012.07.09 15:40:00 -
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I would advise you to be very careful about how and where you recruit because this is the fastest way to get war decced by more experienced players who want easy kills. Running a corp is a daunting task and is not suited for new players, no matter what your previous gaming experience is. Im not saying dont do it but be prepared to deal with the consquences. As others have said you will be far better served joining a corp with some like minded veterans until you really get a feel for the game and how people can attack you. |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
318
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Posted - 2012.07.09 18:42:00 -
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Preacher Garra wrote:Well it has to serve as a cash cow for our Dust endeavors but also want to give the hardcore eve player a great experience.
This corp is founded from a clan that was on PS3 and wants to spread into more since dust is coming out.
And i think we will need some experience players for PvP in eve and orbital strikes delivered through eve into the dust side.
So.....
So.... you want to harness to power of EvE Carebears for your own gain. Good luck recruiting with that tagline:
"Come Join the Great *mumble* Corp, and Pay Taxes so that your directors can play DUST!" -RubyPorto
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Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
1
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Posted - 2012.07.10 05:45:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Preacher Garra wrote:Well it has to serve as a cash cow for our Dust endeavors but also want to give the hardcore eve player a great experience.
This corp is founded from a clan that was on PS3 and wants to spread into more since dust is coming out.
And i think we will need some experience players for PvP in eve and orbital strikes delivered through eve into the dust side.
So..... So.... you want to harness to power of EvE Carebears for your own gain. Good luck recruiting with that tagline: "Come Join the Great *mumble* Corp, and Pay Taxes so that your directors can play DUST!"
I understand you are skeptic, but we don't have any taxes why would we tax people, who am i the IRS? Come on http://evesigs.b-accent.com/91884041.jpg
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Preacher Garra
Talon Strike Force LTD
1
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Posted - 2012.07.10 05:50:00 -
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veshna wildsun wrote:I would advise you to be very careful about how and where you recruit because this is the fastest way to get war decced by more experienced players who want easy kills. Running a corp is a daunting task and is not suited for new players, no matter what your previous gaming experience is. Im not saying dont do it but be prepared to deal with the consquences. As others have said you will be far better served joining a corp with some like minded veterans until you really get a feel for the game and how people can attack you.
Ok i understand this game is totally different from any other game, but after playing all sorts of PC and PS3 games online and been in a clan (with over 200 members in different games) for over a year now as one of the most respected officers i think i know how to run a corp. I appreciate your concerns but I will be fine. Also this game takes time to learn new corp or not so i'm just taking it easy and focusing on what i need to which is training and making money. http://evesigs.b-accent.com/91884041.jpg
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Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
349
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Posted - 2012.07.10 06:18:00 -
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Preacher Garra wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Preacher Garra wrote:Well it has to serve as a cash cow for our Dust endeavors but also want to give the hardcore eve player a great experience.
This corp is founded from a clan that was on PS3 and wants to spread into more since dust is coming out.
And i think we will need some experience players for PvP in eve and orbital strikes delivered through eve into the dust side.
So..... So.... you want to harness to power of EvE Carebears for your own gain. Good luck recruiting with that tagline: "Come Join the Great *mumble* Corp, and Pay Taxes so that your directors can play DUST!" I understand you are skeptic, but we don't have any taxes why would we tax people, who am i the IRS? Come on
How else are you going to make it serve as a "Cash Cow" for your Dust Endeavors? -RubyPorto
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