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Assimil8r
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Posted - 2010.05.02 13:27:00 -
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Important changes for the duration of the 6 year anniversary round
should probably read
Important changes for the duration of the 7 year anniversary round
/nitpick
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Nisanu
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Posted - 2010.05.02 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Nisanu on 02/05/2010 14:43:39 Hi there, just saw the post saying that if you send 50mil now, it will count as part of the old run, and so you effectively donate 40m... is this true??
If so, that seems a little harsh, doesn't it?
It is true that it says somewhere that it starts on the 2nd, but it is really easy to overlook that, especially with the advertisements/stickies suggesting that it has started already AND posts in this thread saying "sent 50mil"...
I and my friend donated 50mil last night, and I hope that it will be used for the obviously intended purpose.
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Myrkala
Minmatar Interstellar Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.02 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: "http://biglottery.big-eve.com/" Round #182 duration From: Monday 2010.04.19 To: Sunday 2010.05.02 Drawing: Monday 2010.05.03 18:00 EVE - Ingame channel "BIG Games"
Note that round #183 in fact starts before the draw for round #182 has been done - Namely at midnight between monday and sunday.
So that means the tickets you buy after midnight (00:00 EVETIME?) tonight will go into the 7th year lottery.
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Thanks CCP, I knew you had it in you! <3 Long live Naglfar! |
Devilish Ledoux
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.05.02 17:22:00 -
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What do you mean it hasn't started yet? I'm not donating crap! TornSoul, you piece of ****, give me my money back!
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Khalnur
United Cookie Defenders
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Posted - 2010.05.02 18:35:00 -
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Bought tickets for 50M ^^
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Nisanu
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Posted - 2010.05.02 18:51:00 -
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Just to be clear: the 50M sent last night by me (Nisanu) and Mar Sarrim were for the lottery draw of the 17th (obviously).
Also, please do people a favour next time and make clearer that there is a starting date for sending ISK... for someone who has never played, it is not obvious at all.
Anyway, please don't put the two names above in the draw for tonight, but for the "big" BIG draw.
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Boss Vlad
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.03 00:46:00 -
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50M sent. I put a reason on, not sure if i should have or not, but i figured, putting BIG 7th anniversary will be specific enough.
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William Mill3r
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Posted - 2010.05.03 03:00:00 -
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When you claim the total tickets value of a lottery is 1B, put the puyout is around 2B, where does that extra billion come from, including your 10% fee, sponsoring ?
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Assistant Slacker
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Posted - 2010.05.03 03:27:00 -
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If this is for personal learning and not for profit, check out Technet. It is a microsoft program that provides a HUGE $$ worth of licenses for testing and the like. It is a little bit of an investment, $350 for the first year and $250 to renew, but you get at least 100 licenses of all microsoft programs for test environments. You can also use it not-for profit I believe. Check it out and see if your use falls under their EULA.
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.03 13:30:00 -
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@Assistant Slacker
Thank you very much!
That's exactly what I need - and I'm 99% sure I'll spring for a technet subscription (that's an *awesome* deal)
Everyone who needs more than just their home OS (say a windows server and SQL server should definitely look into that!)
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.03 13:42:00 -
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As for all those having bought tickets "too early" :
I've gone through the DB entries and have to the best of my ability moved everyone to round #183, who looked like they might have meant to buy tickets for round 183 and not round 182.
An amazing total of 166 entries have been moved...
The way I have to do this is by assigning you a new timestamp in the DB. Everyone moved has been given a timestamp of 2010.05.03 00:01 instead of their actual timestamp (when you made your purchase)
FYI : This means that the timestamp in your wallet no longer corresponds to the timestamp on the BIG Lottery "Lottery List".
Please also note that this moving of entries is a *ONE OFF* event.
It is *NOT* under any circumstance something I will do for regular rounds. It's a ton of boring work I have to toil through because *SOMEONE ELSE* screwed up - I don't do that gladly!
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.03 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: William Mill3r When you claim the total tickets value of a lottery is 1B, put the puyout is around 2B, where does that extra billion come from, including your 10% fee, sponsoring ?
"Claim" - Underlined and all... I do think you are implying you don't believe me?
Let me address the very last first : We have never invoked our 10% admin fee, nor do we ever intend to do so. As you can also see if you check the BIG Lottery winners page. Each and every draw states that we've waived our 10% admin fee.
The BIG Lottery is strictly non-profit.
So why is it still there in the rules? Long story... That I won't get into here.
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As you'll also notice (and apparently already have) 98% of the time we pay out more ISK than we actually get in through ticket sales (often twice as much...)
So where does all that extra ISK come from each time?
The answer is surprisingly simple (and yet perplexing): "Excess" ISK from previous rounds. Remember we are non-profit - Even if we sell more tickets than we pay out in prizes, we don't actually keep the excess, but instead roll it into the next round(s) for greater than else possible prizes.
But wait... What excess? I just stated that *98%* of the time we pay out more in prizes than we get in on ticket sales.
The answer is this, and previous anniversary rounds. That's the (roughly) 2% of rounds (1 out of 52 rounds a year) when we *do* have a surplus of ISK (compared to ISK prizes)
The anniversary round is basically the "nest egg" for the rest of the year, until next anniversary round (along with the accumulated tickets sales over the rest of the year ofc), and it's quite the balancing act to make it work out... and a bit nerve wrecking the last few months each time as well...
Remember we *guarantee* a certain prize payout and *at* a set and regular time - *regardless* how many tickets actually gets sold - Which in itself is rather unique for any (long term) EVE lottery.
Most other lotteries are along the lines of : "I'll give away 100M ISK (or item value equivalent) *when* I've sold 80m/90m worth of tickets"
The BIG difference here being the "when" bit - and not least the cash each lottery operator invariable rakes in themself.
Again something that makes the BIG Lottery just that wee bit special from all those that have come since
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Nisanu
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Posted - 2010.05.03 15:41:00 -
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Thanks TornSoul, I really appreciate all your efforts!(as I'm sure everyone does)
My advice still stands though: even if it does state when a round "runs", I think you should make it much clearer that people cannot buy tickets earlier than that date, or, alternatively, do not advertise a new round until the old one has finished. It would save everyone a lot of hassle.
Anyway, thanks again!
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Nisanu
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Posted - 2010.05.03 15:48:00 -
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By the way, how come you've never charged the 10% "administration fee"? There is nothing wrong with getting compensated for your efforts, is there? I don't think anyone would object to you getting paid for your work as long as the lottery is well organised and is fair.
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Kylie Minogues
ISA Istarska Svemirska agencija
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Posted - 2010.05.03 17:04:00 -
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If they (rightfully) charged their 10% fee, the next round, many times, would miss that amount of iskies, because many times, the prizes given away were surpassing the amount gathered by people who played the lottery. That simple. My bow to you, lottery folks, for keeping your (and our) lottery fun and alive, to this very day. Btw congratz on your 7th birthday ! Kind regards.
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saberblood
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Posted - 2010.05.03 17:10:00 -
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50m isk sent....good luck and safe flying
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Crazy Hippo
Caldari Versatech Co. Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.05.03 17:40:00 -
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oooh 7 year anniversary. seeing as the lottery drawing is 2 days after my 7 year anniversary im definately in.
good luck all.
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William Mill3r
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Posted - 2010.05.03 19:29:00 -
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Ok sorry TornSoul in fact I didn't understand "waived" the way I shall have, I still have a few holes in my english, sadly It's not that I didn't believe you but I remained sceptic, as it looked a little too good, well good luck to you
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Lynn Lokaarth
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Posted - 2010.05.03 19:55:00 -
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William Would you be so kind to check the BIG Lottery web page a bit? I guess this link http://biglottery.big-eve.com/lotterylist.aspx should prove some transparency to you. As for scammers, indeed, it`s a helluva lot out there But you`re checking at a wrong place this time. Check their page a bit GL all on the 7 YEAR ANNIVERSARY draw.
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IAmCypher
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Posted - 2010.05.03 20:15:00 -
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Great contest mate, Keep em coming.
/me is sad about the wormhole in the wallet.
Still I'd love to see more of this lottery. See you at the next round ^^
IAmCypher
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Munkata
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Posted - 2010.05.03 21:16:00 -
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i sent 50M isk as it was announced that this is the maximum amount of tickets that can be bought. Yet this is from your receit page: Round #183 runs from 2010-05-03 to 2010-05-16
Lottery info for Munkata
Date - Amount - Donation2010-05-03 09:05 - 10.000 - 40.000
Why is that???? because in forums there is this: Ticket cap : The ticket cap has been raised to 50K tickets (50M ISK) per character
My transaction is from 2010.05.03 09:05 so it is clearly about round #183
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.03 21:53:00 -
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@Munkata
Now fixed.
I had hoped no one would notice - and get confused/upset about it.
It's due to the fact that the cap on tickets have changed. This is all pretty much automated except for the fact that I can't operate with two different ticket caps (10K/50K) at the same time.
So between midnight where the new round starts (and new ticket cap) and until the draw from the last round is over (so I can change the cap in the config file) entries are treated with the old cap (and thus you see the donation bit).
I'll have the same problem when we change back to the 10K cap in round 184 again, except this time it won't be as noticeable (as it's the other way around)
So I knew the problem was/is there, just couldn't do anything about it until after the draw, and had hoped I could sneak this inadequacy of my setup by without anyone noticing - Alas
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JikkaJosh
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Posted - 2010.05.04 01:05:00 -
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50mil sent. Good Luck Everyone.
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Kallikor
Caldari Eve Engineering Logistics Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2010.05.04 04:37:00 -
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Just wanted to mention there is a character with the name "Big Gamess" so be careful with typos. Scamming using similar names is an exploit anyway, but be careful nonetheless.
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JikkaJosh
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Posted - 2010.05.04 05:03:00 -
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After sending 50mil i got my receipt and it says
Date - Amount - Donation2010-05-04 01:02 - 10.000 - 40.000
Is that supposed to change to the right amount sometime or is it still waiting on getting fixed?
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Munkata
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Posted - 2010.05.04 06:59:00 -
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Its OK now. Thank you. Good luck to all!
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Clarissa Armandi
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Posted - 2010.05.04 08:14:00 -
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50M sent, this is BIG!
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ULTImatio
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Posted - 2010.05.04 09:57:00 -
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Hi there TornSoul,
Nice lottery you got there !
I am a perfectionist and I notice abnormalities in the blink of my eye.
May I point out a ERROR in the lottery list.
2010-05-04 07:33 - 19.801.327 - 10.000 2010-05-04 07:42 - 19.803.327 - 2.000 2010-05-04 07:45 - 19.853.327 - 50.000 2010-05-04 07:46 - 19.903.327 - 50.000 2010-05-04 07:47 - 19.913.327 - 10.000 2010-05-04 07:49 - 19.923.327 - 10.000 2010-05-04 07:53 - 19.923.337 - 10 2010-05-04 07:54 - 19.933.337 - 10.000 <<<<<<<<<<< We missing +10 Tickets here !!! 2010-05-04 07:57 - 19.963.337 - 30.000 2010-05-04 08:00 - 19.973.337 - 10.000 2010-05-04 08:12 - 20.023.337 - 50.000 2010-05-04 08:12 - 20.048.337 - 25.000 2010-05-04 08:13 - 20.058.337 - 10.000
Hope you fix it.
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.04 10:04:00 -
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@JikkaJosh
Whoops - My bad. Fixed now.
I keep forgetting (once a year...) that I have *two* config files and not just one, that I need to update with the cap limit.
@ULTImatio Take a closer look and you'll see the 10 tickets are not missing.
2010-05-04 07:49 - 19.923.327 - 10.000 2010-05-04 07:53 - 19.923.337 - 10
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Syreon 5I4
xMONOLITHx Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.05.04 10:48:00 -
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50M send. Goodluck everyone
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