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Omira Tan
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Posted - 2010.05.05 06:18:00 -
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Edited by: Omira Tan on 05/05/2010 06:42:35
Originally by: Ildryn
I live in 0.0 and i can be camped and destroyed daily by those who have no war dec on me.
You 0.0 folks are funny: you claim bravery for living in unprotected space, yet feel the need to grieve innocent miners in high-sec. And not only that, you cry foul when your victims run away. Awww.
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Myxlflyx
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Posted - 2010.05.05 19:38:00 -
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0.0 and empire are different. on purpose.
0.0=eternal warfare
empire=limited, highly constrained warfare
you didn't address the points about locking someone into a corp. in your world, if i dec a corp, a player moves to another corp, i dec that corp, the same player moves to another corp, and I dec THAT corp, then as long as I pay the war dec fee, that player is stuck in that corp. Not to mention the new corp is stuck with him too and can't stop the wardecs. the same is true for the ceo of a corp that is decced. Someone declares war and thats that as long as they keep paying the war fee. what a stupid idea. not to mention in your world a player could just move to an npc corp and you couldn't dec him at all.
If you want targets so bad, stay in 0.0. If you don't live in empire, then stfu. |
Ildryn
The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.06 00:04:00 -
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Surrender him then. Pay the guy to stop war deccing him. Or come to an agreement. War decs should be solved with ease. Dec someone with a monetary agenda or something. The way they are currently is broken. Stop using the "in your world" bull****. In my world **** just works or it should be addressed. Bounties, war decs, and character cycling would all be addressed. But this is not my world. This is Eve and my opinion is just that....an opinion.
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Irdia Freelancer
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Posted - 2010.05.06 05:21:00 -
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Just to note:
- The war dec's are and never have been about PvP. The Wardec'r generally hides in dock when the war goes active. Never seen them undocked while war active. - wardec's from (unskilled?) alts in corps of size 1 are nothing but griefing and not any intention of war. The griefer has yet to declare war with anything but a corp size of '1'. - The griefer petitioned me for use of the word 'Butt' so I have since not linked their alts and the word 'Butt' together so a GM has not edited my corp descriptions since. Seams linking an insult with an alt is a no-no to ccp. - While wardec'd I've completed over 250 lvl 4 missions (this takes longer than 5 minutes to complete with plenty while war active), ie the wardec'r has no intention of ever hunting ships. If they can't even hunt missioning ships while at war what kind of idiot are they? - In reply to the 'Butt' petition I petitioned the griefer for using the 3 letter A word meaning the same as Butt (butt not edited from forums like the A word), but aparently thats okay in-game while not on the forums. - during discussions with the GM on my petition I was told the 27 wardec's that had been made at the time were not griefing according to ccp as it cost me nothing. I see the isk spent by the griefer as not petitionable either as that is their choice, ie they chose to spend it. Nobody is forcing them to spend the isk.
I dont much care about my employment history on several mission runing alts. The idiot hasn't targeted my pvp alt so it has a clean employment record so doesn't ruin my pvp employment opportunities.
If its okay for someone to grief by wardec its okay to corp jump. You can't have it both ways. If there is a limit on jumping corps then one also needs a limit on the wardec'n - eg if wardec a corp then the cost rises. At some time ccp should fix the employement lists as currently the retrieval/sorting etc is laggy. They tidied the mail lists from a lagfest so they could do similar on the employment history.
At the end of the day, if it ever becomes a problem that jumping corps is petitionable, I'll jump once to an npc corp - problem solved. My last comunication from a GM was it wasn't petitionable so I'll keep doing it. Let me guess, one of the most vocal complaining about the jumping of corps by myself is probably an alt of the same idiot wardec'n me. If they want to get serious and wardec me more, keep up the wardecs you keep dropping and I'm certain I can up your outgoing isk by about 1 bil/month - unless you can't afford the griefing? A solution to the isk expense - stop wardec'n for no good reason! Bit like an idiot complaining they burn their hand when they put their hand in a fire, but they keep doing it anyway ...
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.05.06 08:06:00 -
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Hey mod! yooohoo! over here! This should be moved into C & P already. |
Ildryn
The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.06 17:31:00 -
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I have yet to figure out why being war decced by a 1 man corp is griefing.
Are you scared of that 1 man corp you claim never to see undocked ? Maybe they are awaiting an opportunity to attack you. You need to just settle into a corp be it self made or a friends and allow the dec to work itself out. Convo the guy and ask how to end this. Why are you jumping corps ? The guy wants you decced and you seem to want to grief him by costing him money. Let the guy dec you and run another 250 level 4 missions.
BTW En Garde has been decced by a 1 man corp. That is not griefing. He has not logged in at all. This is not griefing.
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Myxlflyx
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Posted - 2010.05.06 17:41:00 -
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first, surrendering does nothing to end the war. it doesnt have to be accepted by the deccer.
second, what if you pay and the griefer keeps up the dec?
you seem to want a system where players can perma-grief. ccp wants a game people will pay to play. if players cant get away from douches like you, they arent going to pay to play anymore. deal with it. just like you seem to think we all have to deal with you. |
Psychotic Maniac
Caldari Head Shrinkers
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Posted - 2010.05.07 13:41:00 -
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Doesn't ccp do something to f*gs like this that constantly jump corps?
I'm pretty sure reading somewhere you're suppose to get a warining for this. Could be the other way around as griefing the player jumping corps.
Try petition and see if that helps.
_ "One death is a tragedy. One million deaths is a statistic." |
Ildryn
The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.10 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Ildryn on 10/05/2010 22:29:29
Originally by: Myxlflyx first, surrendering does nothing to end the war. it doesnt have to be accepted by the deccer.
second, what if you pay and the griefer keeps up the dec?
you seem to want a system where players can perma-grief. ccp wants a game people will pay to play. if players cant get away from douches like you, they arent going to pay to play anymore. deal with it. just like you seem to think we all have to deal with you.
Stop trolling me with your alt and post with your main. I think what this guy has been doing is wrong. Someone wants him decced and the guy is corp hopping to drive the cost up. He is griefing the mans wallet. Dont even bother posting if you cant do it with your main.
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Miraqelle
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Posted - 2010.05.11 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Miraqelle on 11/05/2010 18:30:12
Originally by: Ildryn Someone wants him decced and the guy is corp hopping to drive the cost up. He is griefing the mans wallet.
lol wut? so I guess the U.S. is griefing the Taliban? The English were griefing the Germans? Gandhi was griefing the English? If he stops griefer deccing, he'll stop losing money. Thats some jacked up arguing there. I guess your troll friend didn't realize they were being trolled by you. 7/10 for trolling trolls
edit: The word **** is filtered. Had to use germans |
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Ildryn
The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.11 23:12:00 -
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^^ This is a game. Not a real country or a real war. I am not trolling i am stating my opinion.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.11 23:44:00 -
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this thread has too many tears for even me. This is clearly a signature. |
Devil tiger
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Posted - 2010.05.12 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Irdia Freelancer Just to note:
At the end of the day, if it ever becomes a problem that jumping corps is petitionable, I'll jump once to an npc corp - problem solved. My last comunication from a GM was it wasn't petitionable so I'll keep doing it. Let me guess, one of the most vocal complaining about the jumping of corps by myself is probably an alt of the same idiot wardec'n me. If they want to get serious and wardec me more, keep up the wardecs you keep dropping and I'm certain I can up your outgoing isk by about 1 bil/month - unless you can't afford the griefing? A solution to the isk expense - stop wardec'n for no good reason! Bit like an idiot complaining they burn their hand when they put their hand in a fire, but they keep doing it anyway ...
Why don't you just form an alliance with one your Alts? It'll make them/him bleed far more than mere corp wardec.
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