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KtoJest
Minmatar Silkroad Partners
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Posted - 2010.05.11 08:03:00 -
[61]
Hey mate-
you don't have to give up.
maybe just change your marketing strategy.
you're trying to sell a 300m package.
it may be something or it may be nothing.
look at a box of cornflakes. the box tells you all about what is inside and why you should buy it. but you have to pay for the taste and supposed benefits.
put together some 'teasers', abstracts, questions, examples, etc. of what you are trying to sell.
"In this lesson you will learn: How to spot market trends Now add some text describing the scenario. Now add some text describing why i should know this."
Stop here. You don't have to give anyone the answers.
put them in a pdf or on a blog or whatever.
let the prospective buyer decide whether or not they want to buy it.
there are so many scams out there, you can't blame people for being skittish.
you don't need an audit. you need a marketing strategy for your product.
-the best
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Weaver Goldentongue
Minmatar Iron Dragon Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.11 12:29:00 -
[62]
Agreed, don't give up. Just get the audit done, then push your product again. The audit will quickly pick up if you have the necessary skills, which will settle a few nerves. After that, it's just word of mouth from existing customers as to whether or not it's a success.
Note that most of the ****ers who are trolling you are anonymous alts - don't give them the satisfaction of biting.
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Camino Archer
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Posted - 2010.05.11 19:27:00 -
[63]
Im interested..Saving up to get your Tut...
Don't give up........Never give up!!!
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Rhivre
Caldari TarNec
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Posted - 2010.05.11 20:15:00 -
[64]
Tbh, if it is something you believe that none of the people offering free advice / tutorials / hours of tuition in game currently can do, then go for it.
However, people wishing to take up the service should also be aware that there are many handy to use spreadsheets and tools, and many many people out there offering very easy tutorials (I spent 4 hours in one with a very patient bunny) :p
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Fomst
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Posted - 2010.05.12 00:54:00 -
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This guy WILL TEACH YOU. HE WILL HELP YOU. YOU WILL NOT GROW CHIN HAIR FROM THIS! this guy is good at what he does and he's easy to listen too. This will change your whole world of money makin. If your only 1-6 months in and have the cash DO IT. If you are slightly more experienced ask yourself "do I grind? Does it suck up to much of my fun time?" if so do it. If you are like mr.money bags and know how to do a good deal of tradin just think "how much more does he know then me" it's just your call. I liked it every step of the way. I learned how to put my money to work for me, not me workin for my money. Also if you yell scam I though so too, but this guy is nice. He dosint will not scam you I give you my word as a player. (If he does message me I would want to know this) P.S. you will not get 250M isk first day you need to build up but after that it will be like oh what to buy this time.
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vashstamp
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Posted - 2010.05.12 01:00:00 -
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Good teacher, he put a lot of effort into this, I have been around since 03 and he tought me stuff I over looked. He knows what hes doing and is very good at explaining on how to trade and ect. Worth every penny.
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Seabronc
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Posted - 2010.05.12 01:46:00 -
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This is coming from someone who didn't have to pay cuz corp ceo covered me: I felt as though the information that I received was invaluable to making isk. Blade was very professional and patiant. I tottaly reccomened this program to anyone who is serious about making isk. |
MeSo ANGRY
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Posted - 2010.05.12 02:41:00 -
[68]
confirmed scam
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Jan VanRijkdom
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Posted - 2010.05.12 05:37:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Jan VanRijkdom on 12/05/2010 05:37:08 Confirmed scam? And thats from the guy who just talked about drumming up 1000B bonds w/ no details? Scam or not, I'm not taking your word for it.
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meandnotoyu
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Posted - 2010.05.12 10:21:00 -
[70]
Very good tutorial, thank you and its definitly not a scam ;)
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Rhivre
Caldari TarNec
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Posted - 2010.05.12 10:37:00 -
[71]
It was never in question as a scam, what is being offered is being sold, the only question is value for money, and that is something only each player can decide :)
For many people, paying for market training, and tips, which is available freely, is not value for money, but I guess if people dont like asking questions, then this makes it easier for them :)
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Mrtan
Caldari Volt Investments
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Posted - 2010.05.12 16:06:00 -
[72]
I bought a lesson from him last week and send the isk. After I send it he closed convo and never heard anything from him. He's a scammer.
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Chaster Mareel
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Posted - 2010.05.12 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Mrtan I bought a lesson from him last week and send the isk. After I send it he closed convo and never heard anything from him. He's a scammer.
Validity of this claim?
Or are you just trying to discredit the competition? Your gimmick
Hard to believe since this is the case
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Riyker
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Posted - 2010.05.12 16:53:00 -
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This was a good class. Lots of info and good tips. Vets and noobs who want to get into trading should take this class. He has a disscounted rate right now so take advantage.
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Corcyrus Endymion
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Posted - 2010.05.12 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Riyker Edited by: Riyker on 12/05/2010 17:00:38 This was a good class. Lots of info and good tips. Vets and noobs who want to get into trading should take this class. He also has a 30 day online surpport set up to help with any questions. Very helpful and friendly.
Seriously?
IIIBLADEIII, please shake up something better. I've been checking *people* posting positively and guess what: all are unaffiliated, shady and/or first time posters. Well, well, well.
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Rhivre
Caldari TarNec
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Posted - 2010.05.12 18:08:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Riyker Edited by: Riyker on 12/05/2010 17:00:38 This was a good class. Lots of info and good tips. Vets and noobs who want to get into trading should take this class. He also has a 30 day online surpport set up to help with any questions. Very helpful and friendly.
Alternatively, join Minerals & Manufacturing, SCC Lounge, Signatures or any of the other trading channels out there, and ask questions for free. I (And I am sure I am far from the only one doing this today) have spent much of today covering trading / Industry basics and not so basics in several channels....for free. ^^
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IIIBLADEIII
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Posted - 2010.05.12 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Corcyrus Endymion
Originally by: Riyker Edited by: Riyker on 12/05/2010 17:00:38 This was a good class. Lots of info and good tips. Vets and noobs who want to get into trading should take this class. He also has a 30 day online surpport set up to help with any questions. Very helpful and friendly.
Seriously?
IIIBLADEIII, please shake up something better. I've been checking *people* posting positively and guess what: all are unaffiliated, shady and/or first time posters. Well, well, well.
I don't decide who takes the class but i would like to point out that Fomst, Seabronc, Riyker and one other that has not posted yet were all done together last night, there CEO vashstamp (who also sat the course) paid for these guys to get them started in eve making money for what ever his personal reasons where, I'm unsure.
And also Mrtan i'm not biting.
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Chaster Mareel
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Posted - 2010.05.12 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: Chaster Mareel on 12/05/2010 20:01:25 EDITED: for clarity
Originally by: IIIBLADEIII
And also Mrtan i'm not biting.
Blade, I bring in to question the validity of him saying you were scamming him. I am not vouching for you, but I certainly see it as interesting what you are doing.
But he seems like a fly by night, as in best context as that can be applied to EVE, where pilots are created at the god-like whim of the account holder
What I mean is, I think he is trying to discredit you because you are his (likely) direct competition.
Plus, in his thread, atleast one of the "vouching" people looks to likely be a scammer.
Meh who knows?
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SpectreEnforcer
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Posted - 2010.05.12 21:39:00 -
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I found this service brilliant. I would definately recommend it to friends. I've been playing EVE for just over a year now and this tutorial taught me alot which i didnt already no. If you have the isk to take the course i would definately recommend doing so as you will soon make it back from the tips learnt. Good luck to Blade i hope you get alot of business in the future. Feel free to convo me if you have any queries about this service. If you want proof that this isnt a scam convo me and ill back up Blade as i found this service excellent.
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Corcyrus Endymion
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Posted - 2010.05.12 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Chaster Mareel Edited by: Chaster Mareel on 12/05/2010 20:09:29 Edited by: Chaster Mareel on 12/05/2010 20:01:25 EDITED: for clarity
Originally by: IIIBLADEIII
And also Mrtan i'm not biting.
Blade, I bring in to question the validity of him saying you were scamming him. I am not vouching for you, but I certainly see it as interesting what you are doing.
But he seems like a fly by night, as in best context as that can be applied to EVE, where pilots are created at the god-like whim of the account holder
What I mean is, I think he is trying to discredit you because you are his (likely) direct competition.
Plus, in his thread, atleast one of the "vouching" people looks to likely be a scammer.
Meh who knows?
---------- @Corcyrus So, too young a toon = invalid opinion Veteran wouldn't (likely) need the guide. So who fits into a valid opinion?
Honestly asking here...
Good question. What I was hoping for was some people that A) Fit in a corp and/or B) have a healthy corp history and/or C) a meaningful posting history. So far I personally do get good vibes. Might also have to with the pure fact that the name IIIBLADEIII fits in with names like XXXDEATHXXX and that simply rubs me the wrong way
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Rhivre
Caldari TarNec
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Posted - 2010.05.12 22:04:00 -
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Most of the ones that have posted so far seem to be from 1 corp, was it a corp discount deal?
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IIIBLADEIII
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Posted - 2010.05.12 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Rhivre Most of the ones that have posted so far seem to be from 1 corp, was it a corp discount deal?
I think i answered that question a few posts back mate : )
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Rhivre
Caldari TarNec
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Posted - 2010.05.13 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: IIIBLADEIII
Originally by: Rhivre Most of the ones that have posted so far seem to be from 1 corp, was it a corp discount deal?
I think i answered that question a few posts back mate : )
Ah, sorry, I missed that. So the CEO paid 1.2bn
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IIIBLADEIII
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Posted - 2010.05.13 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rhivre
Originally by: IIIBLADEIII
Originally by: Rhivre Most of the ones that have posted so far seem to be from 1 corp, was it a corp discount deal?
I think i answered that question a few posts back mate : )
Ah, sorry, I missed that. So the CEO paid 1.2bn
Due to the fact that i have been getting hit hard on this thread, and that people have pointed out i have no previous credibility, I have lowered the cost of the lesson to encourage more applicants to apply which in turn would help me gain my credibility.
Would like to point out that 300mil wasn't a random number out a bag. i chose this amount because i teach the ability to make enough isk to pay for a months free game time with-in 1-2, The amount for a Plex (30 days game time) is roughly 300 mil and i thought that this amount for the lesson seemed right.
Thank You IIIBLADEIII
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Check 1234
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Posted - 2010.05.13 10:59:00 -
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There are far 'better' people out there than you offering this same service for cheaper. Why would anyone be stupid enough to pay you to teach them nothing. Can you stop replying and prolonging this fail train.
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Joseph Marsh
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.13 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: IIIBLADEIII
Due to the fact that i have been getting hit hard on this thread, and that people have pointed out i have no previous credibility, I have lowered the cost of the lesson to encourage more applicants to apply which in turn would help me gain my credibility.
You will be online today from 18.00 to 21.00 game time? Because is the only time that i will be able to use take this lessons. And today i the last day when i can use the mic (from tomorow the wife is getting home and she is sleeping when i am playing, so i can't use the mic.). Now i am at work and i am unable to send you an eve mail, but if you are online between this hours today i will take the lessons for sure.
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Unity Love
Caldari Dissonance Corp
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Posted - 2010.05.13 12:06:00 -
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I'm just curious as to why a self proclaimed market jedi would need to have a service like this to make isk (because tbh charing 300m can only be your way to get the iskies)
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Zaribeth
Amarr GK inc. Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.05.13 13:50:00 -
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I am posting to confirm the OP is not a scammer
I paid the 300mill isk and i have now lost almost 120lbs in 30 days.
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Nero Farway
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Posted - 2010.05.13 14:00:00 -
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I have just taken the lesson =)
I have been trading for several months before, have been a station trader and right now am sitting on 4b. Since I had to manage a lot of orders in a major trade hub without raising my income I had to do something... I decided to take the lesson and, so far, am not regretting it.
He told me about different way of trading, some of which I already knew and which I have been able to improve because of the lesson (theoretically, will have to get that all start, but it all sounded logical and I am sure it will all be working) and some of which I didn't know so far but am now able to pull off for additional income without having to invest that much time. He answered my questions in a competent way and covered almost all aspects of trading (I don't know if there are more than he told me but I at least know some new ones now, and there can't be that many more :P)
So all in all I am quite satisfied with the service. Even though I don't think I would have taken the lesson if it still cost 300 mil, I am sure it's worth the 100 mil.
And in addition to everything I just learned he offers a 1 month free support for all my questions around trading.
Since I won't be able to avoid ppl checking on this character anyway:
My main character is Ares Farway, more than 1.5 years old, I am not a troll and I am not a "make this guy look trustworthy"- character :P
Thats it for now, Fly save Nero Farway
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.13 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Check 1234 There are far 'better' people out there than you offering this same service for cheaper. Why would anyone be stupid enough to pay you to teach them nothing. Can you stop replying and prolonging this fail train.
Well those mythical better people are not adverticing their services are they? Nor do they bother to try to derail competitions of their business. Most really good traders dont teach, they do what they know best: trade and make massive amounts of isk.
Ok starts to look like i better take this damn class and post review of it. I have played this game since october 2008 (that damn long all ready). I have newer seriously taken look at tradeing, except some random small trys of now and then.
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