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debbie harrio
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Posted - 2010.05.04 13:51:00 -
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From what I gather, the ideas that are brought up for the CSM to push forward to CCP have to be voted on by the CSM and CCP will only look at the ones that are unanimous.
So what happens when someone like Ankwhatever is on the CSM, now I believe that she WILL get voted on as most people that will vote for her don't read the forums or actually agree with her idea of a personal single player game.
Say for example, when a proposal is raised to the CSM that ultimately makes gameplay in hisec better, like the proposal of docking timers related to ship size but will affect a lot of players negatively, what happens if Ank finds this affects her beloved mission runners, ie their loot pinatas when wardecced get creamed trying to dock, so she votes against it, does this matter and the proposal will go through on a majority or does it need to be unanimous of all CSM members?
What I'm getting at here is that someone with so polar opposite gameplay ideas to what the game actually is, especially with the new terms to CSM members could actually make the CSM obsolete, what course of actions are available to rectify this?
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TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.04 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: debbie harrio From what I gather, the ideas that are brought up for the CSM to push forward to CCP have to be voted on by the CSM and CCP will only look at the ones that are unanimous.
So what happens when someone like Ankwhatever is on the CSM, now I believe that she WILL get voted on as most people that will vote for her don't read the forums or actually agree with her idea of a personal single player game.
Say for example, when a proposal is raised to the CSM that ultimately makes gameplay in hisec better, like the proposal of docking timers related to ship size but will affect a lot of players negatively, what happens if Ank finds this affects her beloved mission runners, ie their loot pinatas when wardecced get creamed trying to dock, so she votes against it, does this matter and the proposal will go through on a majority or does it need to be unanimous of all CSM members?
What I'm getting at here is that someone with so polar opposite gameplay ideas to what the game actually is, especially with the new terms to CSM members could actually make the CSM obsolete, what course of actions are available to rectify this?
The process is as follows.
- A proposal is raised in the Assembly Hall forum. It has to be in there for at least 7 days before the meeting for public review, comments and supports (even CSM Delegates have to abide by this rule)
- A full delegate (not alternate) then raises the proposal which puts it onto the next meeting agenda (adding it to the Wiki)
- At the meeting the proposal is debated (if needed) and then put to a vote
- If a majority is reached then the proposal is added to the next Iceland summit for discussion with CCP
- If a majority is not reached then the proposal is rejected
Thus a single delegate cannot block anything, nor can they push something through without getting majority support (so any candidate unable to play well with others is going to find it tricky).
 Vote TeaDaze for CSM5!
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debbie harrio
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Posted - 2010.05.04 14:08:00 -
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Thank you TeaDaze, apologies for the misconception that it had to be unanimous.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.04 14:42:00 -
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Most of the issues I proposed during CSM 1 and 2 were accepted unanimous by the CSM though, the polar opposite ideas are a myth propegated by a few trolls and slanderers here on the forums. ---
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Space Pinata
Amarr Discount Napkin Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.04 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Most of the issues I proposed during CSM 1 and 2 were accepted unanimous by the CSM though, the polar opposite ideas are a myth propegated by a few trolls and slanderers here on the forums.
Originally by: Space Pinata Some of Ankhe's opinions:
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah They can petition some GMs and explain before the court why they killed some innocents and pay reparations to the victims. Otherwise they can rot in lowsec where murderous vermin belongs. I think it's time for some real CONSEQUENCE for criminal behaviour. Jailtime, statloss, no insurance, whatever it takes to stomp out this antisocial behaviour. They can do what they want in 0.0, but don't expect us to pay for their bull in Empire space!
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah People that use a game to get their enjoyment by frustrating other people definately are antisocial psychopatic virgins
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah None of all that, instead most pod pilots are the filth of society, irrational, immoral and/or unstable infantile ******s that just want their next dose of short-term satisfaction on the expense of everyone else.
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Highsec is supposed to be safeR than lowsec. It is not.
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah That's why I never return fire even if I lose another ship to it. Hurting other people is immoral.
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah I grind to pay for my stuff in Eve, just as I work in real life to purchase the stuff I want. Eve isn't just a game, it requires hard work, which isn't fun to do all the time. Actually, is Eve a game at all?
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah I just feel disappointed that the killer is capable of doing such a thing. I'll never understand that. Surely people have some kind of concience, and some empathy and compassion towards other people? Maybe they just forget that there's a real person behind those ships. Maybe they don't care. Maybe they're ruthless psychopatich sadists.
And some really juicy ones!
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah I don't have any corpmates, I play this game all by myself. I guess I'm the typical player that sees Eve as a singleplayer game with a nice integrated chat (and I hardly even use that thing). Well it's nice that all these other players are there so I can buy stuff I don't feel like grinding myself, and sell all my trash to which I don't need.
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah To me, 'watch digits on screen grow bigger' is exactly what Eve is to me.
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Also, you can get more without making another player have less. Of course this method is far superior to the apparant parasiting you suggest.
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Of course, but how could someone else's suffering be fun? I'd say that people that enjoy that should be locked away in a mental institution for starters...
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah If there are people that need to be treated, it are those griefers, that should be locked away and rehabilitated into friendly productive members of society, instead of running around griefing people left and right because it makes their twisted minds feel aroused.
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah The only whiners are you criminals, who stubbornly refuse to accept the fact that law enforcement isn't *****ing down hard enough on you, and that it is a logical, realistic and proportional response when Concord and the insurance companies take drastic steps to stop you parasiting scum.
(Yes, fair representation. Even though we're parasitic scum.)
All of these quotes can be found in this thread, if anyone doubts they are valid.
I just thought I'd post them to save everyone else the trouble.
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.05.04 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: debbie harrio
What I'm getting at here is that someone with so polar opposite gameplay ideas to what the game actually is
I'd imagine that pvp and 0.0sec issues will have a fair representation seeing as so many seats will probably go to the big alliances. Alot of people play the way Anhk does and they deserve a voice - Whether it is through her or someone else, but I imagine the seats for that play style will be small.
I'm sure I'll get bagged for say this, but atleast she puts alot of effort into her campaign.
 -T'amber
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