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Augustus Thorn
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Posted - 2010.05.04 21:05:00 -
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Electronic attack frigs are pretty much a weaker version of the recon ships and uses the same set of skills apart from its electronic attack frig skill rather than the covert ops skill + reoon ship skill. I think rather than having them as a seperate ship type they should be counted as a third covert ops ship including changing the skill needed to fly them to covert ops. Also as they are so similer to recon ships apart from being smaller and weaker, they should be given the option of using a covert ops cloak and be able to use a black ops jump portal. this would give covert ops team ecm support in the form of frigs rather than the larger ships.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
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Posted - 2010.05.04 21:32:00 -
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While I support this initiative, I disagree that the skill should be changed. I would also be amenable to them simply fixing the ships to not suck so bad. Even the comparatively awesome Sentinel is really really sucks. It's important to remember that these ships are *frigates* - and an oversize fat frigate is a dead frigate. I don't even care how they fix EAFs.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.05.04 21:35:00 -
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instead of giving them the covops cloak, how about giving them more base hitpoints so they arent as flimsy as they are atm?
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.05.04 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 04/05/2010 21:40:28
Originally by: Augustus Thorn they should be given the option of using a covert ops cloak
No, they should not.
If you want a cloaky surprise ********* option then skill for it and pay a hundred mil+.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.05.04 21:44:00 -
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yeah, as Marlona used to say ... "covert ops is not the answer to fix every broken ship in the game" :)
A small EHP buff to move them a bit closer to AFs might be nice.
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Z'Zhairi
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Posted - 2010.05.05 02:05:00 -
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Perhaps had a "boss" skill for this unit that includes some additive measure of tracking disruption, very small signature radius, and much larger bonus mods. In my mind, what the inital idea here is to have an electronic version of the interceptor..
Which in general is not a hateful idea.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.05.05 04:44:00 -
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Edited by: Omara Otawan on 05/05/2010 04:45:30
Originally by: Augustus Thorn Also as they are so similer to recon ships apart from being smaller and weaker, they should be given the option of using a covert ops cloak and be able to use a black ops jump portal. this would give covert ops team ecm support in the form of frigs rather than the larger ships.
So, basically you want the ewar cruisers being able to have support from ewar frigates when bridging?
Why not give HACs covert ops cloak too so they can support the ewar cruisers? And then give AFs covert ops cloak to support the ewar frigs.
Not supported, and tbh there is not much wrong with the ships, they are damn powerful in frigate class engagements, and are flimsy for a good reason.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.05.05 05:56:00 -
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Please no. There are already far too many cloaking ships in the game and there are heavily used and all cloaking gangs are too commonplace.
EAS are meant to be frigate equivalents of the combat recons. There are already two classes of covert ops cloaking frigates. Might as well put covert ops cloaks on every ship. Lame.
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Marquis Zenas
I.X Research
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Posted - 2010.05.05 08:48:00 -
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It'd make more sense to actually move the Combat Recon's out of the Covert tree and into an EAS tree (Instead of needing CovOps 4 as a prerequisite, Force Recons need EAS 4)
As for EAS themselves, I've had a quick fly in a sentinel and while it was fun they're far too fragile for their cost so, as others have said, an increase in hitpoints would help. -------------------------- Sigless |
Augustus Thorn
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Posted - 2010.05.05 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Zenas It'd make more sense to actually move the Combat Recon's out of the Covert tree and into an EAS tree (Instead of needing CovOps 4 as a prerequisite, Force Recons need EAS 4)
As for EAS themselves, I've had a quick fly in a sentinel and while it was fun they're far too fragile for their cost so, as others have said, an increase in hitpoints would help.
How about this, have two types of electron frig? have one being a combat frig that is tougher and one a covert ops which has a cloak. The two recon ships would have the covops and EAS skills as prerequisite as you suggested like the command ships have logistics and HAS skills as prerequisite.
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Allan Sheperd
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Posted - 2010.05.05 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Allan Sheperd on 05/05/2010 18:48:03
Originally by: Augustus Thorn
Originally by: Marquis Zenas It'd make more sense to actually move the Combat Recon's out of the Covert tree and into an EAS tree (Instead of needing CovOps 4 as a prerequisite, Force Recons need EAS 4)
As for EAS themselves, I've had a quick fly in a sentinel and while it was fun they're far too fragile for their cost so, as others have said, an increase in hitpoints would help.
How about this, have two types of electron frig? have one being a combat frig that is tougher and one a covert ops which has a cloak. The two recon ships would have the covops and EAS skills as prerequisite as you suggested like the command ships have logistics and HAS skills as prerequisite.
This. Wholeheartedly supporting. How do we know they suck? Because only about 20 ewar frigs are sold every day in Jita. Just the Crow alone outsells them over twice as much every day. I've only had one pilot fly them consistently in my entire pvp career.
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Baka Lakadaka
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.06 04:07:00 -
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Edited by: Baka Lakadaka on 06/05/2010 04:07:43 Not so keen on the CovOps cloak, but having them buffed with a few more HP and able to go through a Covert Jump portal would be very nice indeed.
At present they're just a little to easy to lose.
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