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CCP Dropbear
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Posted - 2011.02.18 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Allant Doran Knowing that the next load of information hasn't even been approved yet is, well, off-putting to say the least. Doesn't really matter if I follow topics like these for daily advancements anymore, since it's just something I'll only have to wait to be released to find out anyway.
It's not like that. The "things" in pre-approval are new, more interactive, more involving, in-game delivery mechanisms for plot points created a long time ago. Think back to some criticisms leveled by players that, despite the abundance of in-game content, there was still too much of the mystery being unraveled by trawling through out-of-game chronicles and other sources. The idea is to address that concern, and quite a few others.
Anyways, it'll all be clear in due time. In the meantime, don't feel like there's nothing left to uncover, or that we're all in "dead time" now until the next episode screens. This doesn't work that way. Keep digging around, keep theorizing, keep seeking consensus, and keep trying to build a core of knowledge. You're going to need it all for the road ahead.
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Cailais
Amarr Neo-Tech Solutions
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Posted - 2011.02.18 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear more interactive, more involving, in-game delivery mechanisms
ZOMG. Need moar info!!
C.
the hydrostatic capsule blog
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.18 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Allant Doran I guess that's kinda how I feel.
I don't feel like this is fake or anything, I do believe that the players figuring out what the story is is exactly how this will progress. The only thing that bothers me is that many of us were under the impression that once we figured out the current story, the advancements were already approved and ready to be implemented as soon as we struck a key point or discovery.
Knowing that the next load of information hasn't even been approved yet is, well, off-putting to say the least. Doesn't really matter if I follow topics like these for daily advancements anymore, since it's just something I'll only have to wait to be released to find out anyway.
Kinda like the difference between watching an episode of something the day it first airs, or buying the box-set years later with everything ready, just waiting to be viewed.
I had assumed EVE's current ficiton arc was like a box-set, with new information and story progression only a discovery away. Instead it's currently being aired in real-time, season 1 ended in a cliff-hanger and the producers aren't sure when the next season will begin.
No, I'm pretty sure you are mistaken. The overall land scape of the story is known, but the details, flavour and style are still flexible and subject to change, based on the actions of players in events. (Think gravametrics closing wormholes). Remember that in the past drop said that this would be an experiment in interactive story telling, I think of it like role playing games when you have a great GM, the kind that could and would ad-lib when the players decide to start a fight with the town guard instead of helping them fight the band of brigands.
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Allant Doran
Amarr Locus Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.19 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Allant Doran Knowing that the next load of information hasn't even been approved yet is, well, off-putting to say the least. Doesn't really matter if I follow topics like these for daily advancements anymore, since it's just something I'll only have to wait to be released to find out anyway.
It's not like that. The "things" in pre-approval are new, more interactive, more involving, in-game delivery mechanisms for plot points created a long time ago. Think back to some criticisms leveled by players that, despite the abundance of in-game content, there was still too much of the mystery being unraveled by trawling through out-of-game chronicles and other sources. The idea is to address that concern, and quite a few others.
Anyways, it'll all be clear in due time. In the meantime, don't feel like there's nothing left to uncover, or that we're all in "dead time" now until the next episode screens. This doesn't work that way. Keep digging around, keep theorizing, keep seeking consensus, and keep trying to build a core of knowledge. You're going to need it all for the road ahead.
Thanks for clearing that up, Dropbear. I'm really not one of those ''CCP can't do anything right, raar!'' people, I genuinly just felt, initially, a bit like we had been lead on a near-wild goose chase.
I'm more optimistic now, though and in a way i'm glad it was just my own misunderstanding. Keep doing what you're doing and i'll keep following it
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Auwnie Morohe
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Posted - 2011.02.19 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
Originally by: CCP Dropbear more interactive, more involving, in-game delivery mechanisms
ZOMG. Need moar info!!
C.
I think this might have something to do with it. chronicles: with acknowledgments to mad dogs
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Kithrus
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.27 06:33:00 -
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My corp back when WHs and sleepers first appeared made the joke that because WH sometimes allowed for time travel we were traveling to the futute of our current galaxy and harvesting the remains of our AI tech and shattered worlds.
I always assumed the Jove were weirdly distant about the whole Sleeper issue indeed one would assume they would have atlest talked to us about what we found.
My current theroy atm is that the Sleeper units were a despret attempt by the dieing Epires of the time to get home but instead of getting to earth they landed in another galaxy.
forced to remain and fuel up the Sleeper ships most likely piloted by dreaming humens tried to make a home while researching Worm Holes.
I assume the sucseeded to a point but broke the fabric of reality resulting in the WH we know now. I stress the point that something broke reality becasue the trailer intrducing WH showed some destruction at their arrival and that we have trasit WHs that lead from one part of our galaxy to another instead of just WH space.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.02.27 08:16:00 -
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Edited by: Jovan Geldon on 27/02/2011 08:15:57
Originally by: Kithrus broke the fabric of reality resulting in the WH we know now
People really need to read the chrons before posting...
Originally by: Jovan Geldon
1. "The Spiral" 2. "Half a Life" 3. "1" 4. "The Great Harvest" 5. "We Humans" 6. "World on Fire"
tl;dr - Sisters of EVE find Jamyl Sarum's Abaddon fitted with the Terran superweapon next to a rogue drone hive and send a ship to retreive it. The Blood Raiders use their spies in SoE to find out where and send a taskforce to it as well. A passing Thukker caravan is attacked as a distraction; one of their enterprising captains decides to follow the Radiers when they retreat, and finds the hive as well. The SoE ship goes in first and is destroyed by the drones. The Blood Raider ship is given a secret AI subroutine to transmit by Omir Sarikusa and sneaks past the drones while they have an "identity crisis". The Thukkers arrive later and attempt to reason with the drones. Some philosophical stuff on the nature of their existence later, they help him to destroy the Isogen-5 cache in the hive, destroying themselves, the Raiders, and the superweapon, and setting off the chain reaction that caused the formation of the wormholes.
Read, digest, consider. Then come back with your ideas.
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Aedeal
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Posted - 2011.02.27 13:43:00 -
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So I'd take CCP Dropbear's comments to mean that there is no 'magic key' to unlock the 'Seventh Gate' yet, but to find that magic key in the future, we're gonna need to work out what the heck sleepers are, what they're doing here etc. Sound reasonable?
I'll throw this in there: Sleepers as a race seem to be *really* ancient. We're talking first-empire stuff. They would appear to have entered what we know as W-Space, quarantined areas, and then *possibly* locked themselves in, with a 'remote trigger' on the other side to let themselves out at some point (Isogen V caches pre-date rogue drones). It's an explanation for the massive stashes of Iso V, meshes with the quarantine we know of, but why did rogue drones take up the task of fuelling them? Who manipulated the detonation? Who is manipulating the rogue drones? Did they even become 'rogue' or did they actually switch ownership?
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Kithrus
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.27 14:59:00 -
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Quote: People really need to read the chrons before posting...
How about you enlighten me instead of being conceited. I have looked at allot of databut there is allot more yet to go through.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.02.27 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kithrus
Quote: People really need to read the chrons before posting...
How about you enlighten me instead of being conceited.
How about you actually read the thread before posting half-baked drivel on a topic we already know the answer to? |
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Kithrus
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.27 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jovan Geldon
Originally by: Kithrus
Quote: People really need to read the chrons before posting...
How about you enlighten me instead of being conceited.
How about you actually read the thread before posting half-baked drivel on a topic we already know the answer to?
I don't agree with what has been posted because after 33 pages of thread the most CCP has said to us all is....
"Almost"
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Aedeal
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Posted - 2011.02.28 15:10:00 -
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TBH you're fighting over utterly nothing at all. One is just a more poetic way of putting it. Oh, and Jovan, I think if you re-read, the code-reprogramming routine wasn't created or given to the ship by the blood raiders, it came from the 'friend' of the blood raiders - whoever that is.
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Aedeal
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Posted - 2011.02.28 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kithrus
Originally by: Jovan Geldon
Originally by: Kithrus
Quote: People really need to read the chrons before posting...
How about you enlighten me instead of being conceited.
How about you actually read the thread before posting half-baked drivel on a topic we already know the answer to?
I don't agree with what has been posted because after 33 pages of thread the most CCP has said to us all is....
"Almost"
+1 to this.
So far as I can work out, there's been some mysterious force working doing all sorts of cloak and dagger stuff trying to manipulate things to their advantage.
Evidence: -Iso V dumps are said to be extremely old -Jovians make continual reference to some race of beings that manipulate people, they know them as the 'Enheduanni' -The massive web of plotting revealed between in-game and out-game sources. The SoCT are involved, the Sisters, the Amarrians, the Blood Raiders, Gallente and Caldari mega-corps, Serpentis (working alongside the Sisters of EVE) and not forgetting the Jovians. You don't set up something this big in a couple of minutes. -'World On Fire' says that the dumps were positioned by a race far far in advance of our current one, with a far greater idea in mind, leading my thoughts to one of the previous Empires.
It just stinks of being a massive plot, but did we unlock the prison, or the refuge?
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Rogue Drone Systems
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Posted - 2011.02.28 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Aedeal TBH you're fighting over utterly nothing at all. One is just a more poetic way of putting it. Oh, and Jovan, I think if you re-read, the code-reprogramming routine wasn't created or given to the ship by the blood raiders, it came from the 'friend' of the blood raiders - whoever that is.
Dagan, I think. From the SoE arc.
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Roga Dracor
Caldari Starfire Oasis Infinite Conflux
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Posted - 2011.02.28 19:25:00 -
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Yes, Mr. Dagan is a Jovian operative for the SoCT. He apparently passed a drone overide code to the Blood Raiders. My guess is that Jamyl Sarum is another recipient of said code, as the drones were "guarding" and refeuling her super weapon.
The SoCT looks to have been provoking an armageddon (pun intended=) between the Amarr and the Sani Sabik. The Rogue drones were deeply offended by the mere existance of such a code, and worked out a deal with the Empires via the Sister's of Eve.
The Society of Conscious Thought is said to harbor an element that seeks to manipulate Empire. Sort of a sinister Foundation, for those who have read Aasimov.
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Auwnie Morohe
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Posted - 2011.03.01 14:26:00 -
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Reread "1" and found some things interesting.
Isnt this the second time the Sisters want to own some piece of destructive technology for the good of man. Black mountain.
Quote: mechanical god, dead or dreaming
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Rogue Drone Systems
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Posted - 2011.03.01 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Auwnie Morohe Reread "1" and found some things interesting.
Isnt this the second time the Sisters want to own some piece of destructive technology for the good of man. Black mountain.
Quote: mechanical god, dead or dreaming
Why is it that holy men in New Eden turn out to be decidedly unholy?
Parallels with reality, I suppose :F
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Auwnie Morohe
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Posted - 2011.03.01 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Auwnie Morohe on 01/03/2011 16:56:12 Reread the rest. Watch out Im going to solve this.
Quote: that evil could triumph so decidedly over the powers of good
This made me think of a little common theory. Isogen stashes and perhaps drones were created by, or with knowledge of, the empires to reopen the EVE gate. Evil gives Jamyl the gun. She parks it in the safest place ever, booby trapped(no pun intended).
The enormous value of the goal and the effort to build the Isogen makes anyone in the know(educated by SOCT?) keep it very save. Even let the Blood Raider have the weapon if it means keeping the stash.
Question is who is the voice with the codes. Blood Raiders in league with the Jove or SOCT. I dont think so.
Quote: Why is it that holy men in New Eden turn out to be decidedly unholy?
What is holy and what is not is determined only by the one doing the determining not by anything outside it.
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Roga Dracor
Caldari Starfire Oasis Infinite Conflux
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Posted - 2011.03.02 02:59:00 -
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The agent that passes the override code is definately an agent of the Society, it states it in the chronicle, along with mention of a Society Kith that doesn't exist, or is cloaked(there is canon to support this). Though, you have raised the question in my mind, as to where THEY attained it. I hadn't entertained the simplest notion that Jamyl Sarum passed it along to them. Thank you..
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Auwnie Morohe
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Posted - 2011.03.02 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Auwnie Morohe on 02/03/2011 13:48:15
Quote: The agent that passes the override code is definately an agent of the Society, it states it in the chronicle, along with mention of a Society Kith that doesn't exist, or is cloaked(there is canon to support this).
You are right it does very much imply SCT. I still dont like it. Where do they mention that Kitz?
It could be possible that a certain party knew the Thukkers were there and played a double bluff of sorts. Giving the Blood Raiders the codes with knowing exactly how the Thukker captain would act. They are playing everybody for their own secret agenda. As the chronicle says Somebody got exactly what they set out to.
I think something along the same line happened at the start of the Empyrean Age. Knowing about and maybe even facilitating the Minmatar and Thukkers Fleet build and supplying a perfect counter that ends in only them(Evil?) ending up a winner(the broker).
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Roga Dracor
Caldari Starfire Oasis Infinite Conflux
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Posted - 2011.03.02 14:59:00 -
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--"You can't, obviously," the voice said. "But you can very much trust us to explode the vessel if you fail. Prepare for acceptance of the data string. And bring the ship to the wrecked station by planet ten, moon two in the Roua system."
The transmission ended. Someone in his crew said, "That's a ... Society of Conscious Thought area, sir."--
The Great Harvest..
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K'hanesh Lor'al
Amarr The Golden Knights
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Posted - 2011.03.02 15:05:00 -
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The Kitz is mentioned the Black Mountain Chrons
Hey all... many moons ago I really thought there was a major connection between the Incursions and the SOCT... so I posted here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1435724
Please let me know what you think... there is a link between the Black mountain Chrons, the Endo of the ***rld Chrons, and the the Society of Concious Thought Chronicle
Khan
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Auwnie Morohe
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Posted - 2011.03.02 15:13:00 -
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Adding the reading skill to the cue as we speak.
An arms dealer of sorts could easily have crossed paths with the Sisters when they were looking around the EVE gate and found some artifacts that could be used to build a very big weapon.
It could be an explanation for Jamyls weapon. Sisters find interesting artifacts pertaining to the EVE gate. The broker and associates step in to intercept.
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Roga Dracor
Caldari Starfire Oasis Infinite Conflux
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Posted - 2011.03.03 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Roga Dracor on 03/03/2011 13:25:07 A few points, in relief, the ethical compass of Eve is directionless. There are certainly more than two polarizing opposites. We can presume that there were numerous political\theological entities arriving through the Eve portal. The First Jove Empire, was comprised of eight.
One must certainly contemplate said First Empire of the Jove as the dominant factions of the original Terran Hegemony, whatever that was. On this side of the portal, anyway.
The Gallente could be thought of as Existentialists, too.. The Statics might well represent a theological viewpoint amongt the Jove. Everything is just so fuzzy right now. The Unsullied could be the original driving force of the Tahkmal and Nation. There are ancient bloodlines of the Jove running in us all.
Excepting the Amarr, of course, they trace back to the original Conformists.. And so too might the Jove.. =)
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.03.04 11:51:00 -
[985]
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Allant Doran Knowing that the next load of information hasn't even been approved yet is, well, off-putting to say the least. Doesn't really matter if I follow topics like these for daily advancements anymore, since it's just something I'll only have to wait to be released to find out anyway.
It's not like that. The "things" in pre-approval are new, more interactive, more involving, in-game delivery mechanisms for plot points created a long time ago. Think back to some criticisms leveled by players that, despite the abundance of in-game content, there was still too much of the mystery being unraveled by trawling through out-of-game chronicles and other sources. The idea is to address that concern, and quite a few others.
Anyways, it'll all be clear in due time. In the meantime, don't feel like there's nothing left to uncover, or that we're all in "dead time" now until the next episode screens. This doesn't work that way. Keep digging around, keep theorizing, keep seeking consensus, and keep trying to build a core of knowledge. You're going to need it all for the road ahead.
Is this at all related to the removal of the integrated terminus site? Will it be "upgraded" when we get it back?
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Lancashirian
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Posted - 2011.03.14 18:17:00 -
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Quote: Is this at all related to the removal of the integrated terminus site? Will it be "upgraded" when we get it back?
Did they remove it again? I was at a C4 last month and it was active... |
Darcy D'Spledide
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Posted - 2011.05.29 13:42:00 -
[987]
This thread is much better than the other W-space ones, why did it die? Necrobump! |
Ksitigarbha
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Posted - 2011.06.28 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Darcy D'Spledide This thread is much better than the other W-space ones, why did it die? Necrobump!
Bumpy again!
C'mon - there have to be some new info on this?
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Auwnie Morohe
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Posted - 2011.06.28 20:39:00 -
[989]
Quote: Bumpy again!
C'mon - there have to be some new info on this?
There is.
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Durf Askold
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Posted - 2011.06.28 22:04:00 -
[990]
Originally by: Auwnie Morohe
There is.
Muttering about information and not talking about it beyond vague allusions does nothing but stroke your ego, dear.
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