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Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 15:10:00 -
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Eves Buddy Invite program,
Invite a buddy, get gametime or plex. Seems simple enough, but apparently not.
It only seems to count if they subscribe to the game in certain ways.
The fact that there is a record of you sending an invite? - Doesn't matter.
The fact that there is record of that invite being accepted -Doesn't matter.
The fact that records show the trial was activated? -Ditto.
The fact that there is a record that three days later, that trial moved up to a full subscription? -Doesn't matter.
So, let's review, shall we?
The simple terms were Invite -> Create account -> Account upgrades to subscription -> win!
The terms that were met? Invite -> Yup
Friend created account using your invite? -> Yup
Friend handed over the monthly upgrade cost and subsctiption fee? ->Check indeed
Recieved Plex? -> Nope.
Why? Because they used Steam. NOT because they didn't upgrade, Not because they aren't a paying subscriber. NOT because they failed to use MY invite.
Because of how they purchased their time.
Is there something that is apparently buried in the ToS that states that Steam isn't eligable for the program? Yeah, if you look for it before sending the invite through the MASSIVE invite your friends button.
But the problem remains, Irregardless of HOW they entered their paying account status, the fact is they would have monthly continued to pay Eve.
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Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
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Posted - 2012.07.11 15:13:00 -
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TL;DR
The buddy program has a guideline that you need to follow, your "buddy" didn't follow the rules. No plex for you. |
Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 15:18:00 -
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Andoria Thara wrote:TL;DR
The buddy program has a guideline that you need to follow, your "buddy" didn't follow the rules. No plex for you.
I could care less about the plex, it's the idea behind it.
It's bloody ludicrous to look at where they got the game client from to determine reward.
How is him using Steam stopping them from getting THEIR monthly fee? On what grounds does it make sense to use that as an excuse to nullify the reward program? |
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
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Posted - 2012.07.11 15:32:00 -
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Rules are rules. If they didn't follow the rules specified on the Buddy Program, then it doesn't count. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.11 15:34:00 -
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Because Steam is a reseller with their own promotionals. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 15:36:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Because Steam is a reseller with their own promotionals.
Account was purchased non-promotional and Eve receives all monthly payments, not Steam.
Really, the question is, is it rational to lose three subscriptions that would have continued in perpetuity because one of them got the game client from somewhere other then Eve? |
Nirnias Stirrum
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.11 15:44:00 -
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Did your buddy pay real monies to activate his account which included the 5 euro activation fee? Once that is done, plex shall be yours. |
Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 15:45:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Did your buddy pay real monies to activate his account which included the 5 euro activation fee? Once that is done, plex shall be yours.
That's the argument. He did activate his account for the required fee. But because he got the game from Steam the PLEX offer is nullified. |
Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 15:51:00 -
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Answer from a GM:
Quote:This is because in the past when STEAM CD-Keys were eligible for buddy invites, they were abused horribly, resulting in thousands of accounts being created using STEAM keys to get buddy rewards.
This has sadly resulted in us barring Steam CD-Keys from being used for buddy account activation.
Sigh. Good to see the f-ups of a few can affect the many. |
Arknox
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:00:00 -
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Kormoran Theodin wrote:
But the problem remains, Irregardless of HOW they entered their paying account status, the fact is they would have monthly continued to pay Eve.
Kormoran Theodin wrote: Irregardless of HOW
Kormoran Theodin wrote: Irregardless
*twitch* |
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Ladris Dracor
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:02:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless |
Mallak Azaria
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:03:00 -
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Kormoran Theodin wrote:Leads me to wonder, If Steam is such a screw up of a platform, and it does nothing but screw over potential new subscribers, why haven't Eve and Co. pulled their rights to resale?
Because the EVE software is free. |
Ladris Dracor
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:04:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Kormoran Theodin wrote:Leads me to wonder, If Steam is such a screw up of a platform, and it does nothing but screw over potential new subscribers, why haven't Eve and Co. pulled their rights to resale? Because the EVE software is free.
If by free you meant you purchase a game key from Steam, yeah. |
Mallak Azaria
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:08:00 -
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Ladris Dracor wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Kormoran Theodin wrote:Leads me to wonder, If Steam is such a screw up of a platform, and it does nothing but screw over potential new subscribers, why haven't Eve and Co. pulled their rights to resale? Because the EVE software is free. If by free you meant you purchase a game key from Steam, yeah.
No. Game software is free. |
Ladris Dracor
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:10:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:
No. Game software is free.
Let's try that again, with you looking at the link this time? |
Mallak Azaria
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:13:00 -
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Ladris Dracor wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:
No. Game software is free.
Let's try that again, with you looking at the link this time?
EVE software is free. It's not CCP's fault that people pay money for something you can get for free. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:13:00 -
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This is a terrible riddle. Better consult the chart. |
Grandpa Bill
Twin Lakes Retirement Home
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:20:00 -
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Degren wrote:This is a terrible riddle.
I gots me a better riddle and I'll give 10 mil ISK to whoever gets it first. (Dont use the google nets!)
The beginning of eternity The end of time and space The beginning of every end, And the end of every place
Enter in -áGrandpa Bill's (Free to Enter) Plex Drawing
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tgl3
Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:22:00 -
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Grandpa Bill wrote:Degren wrote:This is a terrible riddle. I gots me a better riddle and I'll give 10 mil ISK to whoever gets it first. (Dont use the google nets!) The beginning of eternity The end of time and space The beginning of every end, And the end of every place "e" Do I win? Blog - Through Newb Eyes Twitter - TG_3 |
Mallak Azaria
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:23:00 -
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The answer is in the riddle itself. To anyone who pays attention, they will know the answer is E The rest will just google it. |
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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:26:00 -
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I had a buddy invite who subscribed using a "non-eligible" method and then bought a PLEX on top of that to get some early in-game cash. I sent in a petition and they gave me the reward.
I'm not sure if my friend's follow-up purchase of a PLEX is what helped, or if they would have given it to me even without it, but they they didn't raise too much of a fuss when I asked for it.
At the very least, send in a polite petition. You might find some success with that.
In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |
Grandpa Bill
Twin Lakes Retirement Home
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:26:00 -
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tgl3 wrote:Grandpa Bill wrote:Degren wrote:This is a terrible riddle. I gots me a better riddle and I'll give 10 mil ISK to whoever gets it first. (Dont use the google nets!) The beginning of eternity The end of time and space The beginning of every end, And the end of every place "e" Do I win?
Good job! Didnt take nearly as long as I thought it might. I'll send the ISK to ya in a few min. Im gettin ready to head or cause Im about to take the Grandson to ther Zoo. Little Billy cant wait to go. Enter in -áGrandpa Bill's (Free to Enter) Plex Drawing
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Julius Rigel
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:27:00 -
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Kormoran Theodin wrote:Is there something that is apparently buried in the ToS that states that Steam isn't eligable for the program?Yeah Then what is the problem? Do YOU like to undock? |
Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:28:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:I had a buddy invite who subscribed using a "non-eligible" method and then bought a PLEX on top of that to get some early in-game cash. I sent in a petition and they gave me the reward.
I'm not sure if my friend's follow-up purchase of a PLEX is what helped, or if they would have given it to me even without it, but they they didn't raise too much of a fuss when I asked for it.
At the very least, send in a polite petition. You might find some success with that.
Tried that, which is how I received the GM's response that, because it was specifically Steam, and because of fake accounts in the past, they were opting to deny both the Reward and the petition. |
Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:31:00 -
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Julius Rigel wrote:Kormoran Theodin wrote:Is there something that is apparently buried in the ToS that states that Steam isn't eligable for the program?Yeah Then what is the problem?
The problem, is why ANY outside source is denied, if they can validate the account was invited and summarily upgraded and continuously played on from a different location so as to also validate it isn't a scam account setup to rip off plex. |
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 17:05:00 -
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Kormoran Theodin wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:Because Steam is a reseller with their own promotionals. Account was purchased non-promotional and Eve receives all monthly payments, not Steam.
So Steam distributes and advertises EVE out of the goodness of their heart and does not charge CCP a dime? What a nice company. |
Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
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Posted - 2012.07.11 17:15:00 -
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Just out of curiosity, did you actually try to petition this before you ran to the forums? There's an outside chance that purchasing an account through Steam might not 'flag' whatever system it is they use to issue the rewards...
Perhaps they'd still do it manually, if you were nice about it. Perhaps not.
The question still remains though, of whether you approached them before pushing the drama-button... |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.07.11 17:27:00 -
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Kormoran Theodin wrote:Julius Rigel wrote:Kormoran Theodin wrote:Is there something that is apparently buried in the ToS that states that Steam isn't eligable for the program?Yeah Then what is the problem? The problem, is why ANY outside source is denied, if they can validate the account was invited and summarily upgraded and continuously played on from a different location so as to also validate it isn't a scam account setup to rip off plex.
Because it's CCP making the offer, therefore it's CCP - not you - making the rules. If CCP wanted to ask you to sing a song and put it on youtube before receiving your PLEX, they would have the full right to do so. If you don't feel the rules are fair, you are free not to participate in the promotion. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.07.11 17:49:00 -
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Kormoran Theodin wrote:Julius Rigel wrote:Kormoran Theodin wrote:Is there something that is apparently buried in the ToS that states that Steam isn't eligable for the program?Yeah Then what is the problem? The problem, is why ANY outside source is denied, if they can validate the account was invited and summarily upgraded and continuously played on from a different location so as to also validate it isn't a scam account setup to rip off plex.
If I was a sarcastic person I'd say that you are just upset because your scheme to exploit the offer via Steam won't work.
Since I'm not a sarcastic person (LOL) I'll simply point out that most promotional offers have restrictions. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Terajima Kazumi
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:31:00 -
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Irregardless, irregardless is still a terrible word. |
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