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BalarKel
Blue Sun Enterprises Imperius Legio Victrix
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:23:00 -
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So I don't play consoles, but I have a PS3 that I use as a bluray player. I downloaded DUST and jumped in. It looks like it was made 7 or 8 years ago.
Is this just how consoles are or do I have the 'make this look like crap' button pushed somewhere? |
TEABO BAGGINS
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:38:00 -
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it's in beta... |
BalarKel
Blue Sun Enterprises Imperius Legio Victrix
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:42:00 -
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I've been in a LOT of betas and have never seen anything this bad visually. I was hoping it was just the console. No biggie, just a kiddie shooter anyway.
I just need to remember console games may make the companies that create them more money, but they're still garbage. |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
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Posted - 2012.07.11 21:33:00 -
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Then don't play. It's pretty simple. |
BalarKel
Blue Sun Enterprises Imperius Legio Victrix
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Posted - 2012.07.11 21:50:00 -
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Thank you Cpt. Obvious. Already uninstalled the tripe. |
Devon Dzaran
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.11 23:45:00 -
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Well good for you then ...... |
BalarKel
Blue Sun Enterprises Imperius Legio Victrix
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Posted - 2012.07.12 02:02:00 -
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Devon Dzaran wrote:Well good for you then ......
NO, GOOD FOR YOU!
LAST! |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
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Posted - 2012.07.12 02:12:00 -
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Fushta. |
Nicaragua
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:46:00 -
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BalarKel wrote:I've been in a LOT of betas and have never seen anything this bad visually. I was hoping it was just the console. No biggie, just a kiddie shooter anyway.
I just need to remember console games may make the companies that create them more money, but they're still garbage.
Ive also been in a lot of beta's and i would say this is about average for a real beta, as opposed to a beta that is just a demo. If you want to see what the finished product looks like then go and watch some of the trailers.
Why the appearance of the beta would equate to this being a "Kiddie Shooter" is beyond me. A games appearance dosnt really have that much bearing on whether or not it is a decent game - hence why people still play the original CounterStrike.
Anyway no problem, i'll add you to the whinging bell-end list. |
BalarKel
Blue Sun Enterprises Imperius Legio Victrix
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Posted - 2012.07.12 16:14:00 -
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Nicaragua wrote:BalarKel wrote:I've been in a LOT of betas and have never seen anything this bad visually. I was hoping it was just the console. No biggie, just a kiddie shooter anyway.
I just need to remember console games may make the companies that create them more money, but they're still garbage. Ive also been in a lot of beta's and i would say this is about average for a real beta, as opposed to a beta that is just a demo. If you want to see what the finished product looks like then go and watch some of the trailers. Why the appearance of the beta would equate to this being a "Kiddie Shooter" is beyond me. A games appearance dosnt really have that much bearing on whether or not it is a decent game - hence why people still play the original CounterStrike. Anyway no problem, i'll add you to the whinging bell-end list.
You're making my point. Counter-Strike was a mod of a PC only game. It would have indeed been a pile of crap if it was built to run on a game cube. Compare Prince of Persia or Splintercell with Counter-Strike.
There is no comparison. The same holds true with all substandard console offerings compared to true PC games. I'm not saying the Halo high school crowd won't have a great time playing the game. They probably will. My mistake for actually thinking CCP, the creators of one of the best games of all time would actually do something groundbreaking.
This is nothing more than CCP jumping on the console shooter gravy train. It's not new news that CCP's only real interest is money. It's a business and that's cool. It's my fault for ascribing decent intentions and a real love of games to CCP.
It's a mistake I make over and over. My bad. |
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
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Posted - 2012.07.12 16:33:00 -
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edit: not worth the discussion. |
Shalua Rui
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.13 00:53:00 -
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Well, the PS3 hardware isn't exactly top notch anymore... this generation of consoles is pretty much at it's end... |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2012.07.13 06:11:00 -
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Breaking NDA is fun, don't you think? Nyan |
Nicaragua
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.13 13:20:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Well, the PS3 hardware isn't exactly top notch anymore... this generation of consoles is pretty much at it's end...
Thats a completly nonsensical statement. Are you saying that the PS3 is incapable of running FPS games? Thats simply not true.
Are you suggesting that a game built on "old" hardware must be a bad game - in which case you should quit EVE since it was designed on 10 year old hardware.
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BalarKel
Blue Sun Enterprises Imperius Legio Victrix
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Posted - 2012.07.13 13:58:00 -
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Nicaragua wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Well, the PS3 hardware isn't exactly top notch anymore... this generation of consoles is pretty much at it's end... Thats a completly nonsensical statement. Are you saying that the PS3 is incapable of running FPS games? Thats simply not true. Are you suggesting that a game built on "old" hardware must be a bad game - in which case you should quit EVE since it was designed on 10 year old hardware.
The point is, that games are designed to run on what they'll be played on. This game fails out of the gate. The comparison to EVE fails also. I hope you realize that the polygon count for a space game is incredibly lower than one set on a planet. That big box of space that is your environment is just that. Like the paint on your walls. It would be like having an FPS with no ground, buildings, grass, trees, clouds and instead of having to render a person, you only need to render a static ship with some fire coming out the back and some guns or missiles.
I surprised that this obvious money grab through a garbage game/platform doesn't bother more people. |
Nicaragua
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.13 15:32:00 -
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BalarKel wrote: The point is, that games are designed to run on what they'll be played on. This game fails out of the gate. The comparison to EVE fails also. I hope you realize that the polygon count for a space game is incredibly lower than one set on a planet. That big box of space that is your environment is just that. Like the paint on your walls. It would be like having an FPS with no ground, buildings, grass, trees, clouds and instead of having to render a person, you only need to render a static ship with some fire coming out the back and some guns or missiles.
I surprised that this obvious money grab through a garbage game/platform doesn't bother more people.
Again your comment is nonsense. If you are suggesting that the PS3 cannot run an FPS game then go and look at Killzone 2 and BF3 and see how wrong you are.
If you are suggesting that the game will not be good because it has not been built on the latest cutting edge 2012 hardware then the EVE comparison is completly valid, as is the Counter Strike comparison i made earlier. To summarise - hardware is not the be all and end all of a good game.
And finally your constant yammerings about the game being a cash grab are sooooo absurd that im thinking you are simply trolling this forum, because nobody could be that stupid to seriously accuse a free to play game of being a cash grab. |
BalarKel
Blue Sun Enterprises Imperius Legio Victrix
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Posted - 2012.07.13 16:06:00 -
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Nicaragua wrote:BalarKel wrote: The point is, that games are designed to run on what they'll be played on. This game fails out of the gate. The comparison to EVE fails also. I hope you realize that the polygon count for a space game is incredibly lower than one set on a planet. That big box of space that is your environment is just that. Like the paint on your walls. It would be like having an FPS with no ground, buildings, grass, trees, clouds and instead of having to render a person, you only need to render a static ship with some fire coming out the back and some guns or missiles.
I surprised that this obvious money grab through a garbage game/platform doesn't bother more people.
Again your comment is nonsense. If you are suggesting that the PS3 cannot run an FPS game then go and look at Killzone 2 and BF3 and see how wrong you are. If you are suggesting that the game will not be good because it has not been built on the latest cutting edge 2012 hardware then the EVE comparison is completly valid, as is the Counter Strike comparison i made earlier. To summarise - hardware is not the be all and end all of a good game. And finally your constant yammerings about the game being a cash grab are sooooo absurd that im thinking you are simply trolling this forum, because nobody could be that stupid to seriously accuse a free to play game of being a cash grab.
Killzone 2 and BF3 will always look like crap compared to real PC shooters. PS3 was mentioned to note the limitations of the platform. You really didn't miss that, did you? Troll. If you think any console shooter looks anywhere near as good as a PC designed game, please just stop talking.
And I'm sure you know that League of Legends, a free to play game is the most played game in the world right? You know it crushed World of Warcraft right? You knew that Maple Story crushed Modern Warfare 3 right? These companies are just scraping by right? They haven't figured out that micro transactions bring in real money right?
Your either a complete idiot or a very bad counter troll.
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Nicaragua
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.13 17:34:00 -
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BalarKel wrote: Killzone 2 and BF3 will always look like crap compared to real PC shooters. PS3 was mentioned to note the limitations of the platform. You really didn't miss that, did you? Troll. If you think any console shooter looks anywhere near as good as a PC designed game, please just stop talking.
And I'm sure you know that League of Legends, a free to play game is the most played game in the world right? You know it crushed World of Warcraft right? You knew that Maple Story crushed Modern Warfare 3 right? These companies are just scraping by right? They haven't figured out that micro transactions bring in real money right?
Your either a complete idiot or a very bad counter troll.
Seriously every time you post you write something more and more absurd - what is your point ?
Are you arguing that PC's are capable of better graphics than a PS3 ? - I would completely agree, does that automatically mean that every PS3 game is shite or somehow hobbled just because it cannot match a modern PC - NO
Is your issue that an unfinished PS3 beta dosnt look as good as PC FPS ?- then your a moron.
Are you saying that PS3's are incapable of producing an entertaining gaming experience ? - then your a moron.
Are you saying that Dust cannot be a good game because the graphics in the BETA didnt meet your expectations? - then your a moron.
And of course i have heard of Maple Story but again what is your point ? Are you also claiming that Maple Story is a quick cash grab because is also free to play with micro transactions ? THAT'S NONSENSE - A game cannot be a cash grab if it does not force you to pay for anything - it is up to the customer to put a value on it.
Honestly i have no idea what you are jabbering about other than - "waaa i don't like the graphics !" Thats fine just dont play the game but quit trying to make out like its some kind of conspiracy to rip people off - you sound like an idiot.
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BalarKel
Blue Sun Enterprises Imperius Legio Victrix
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Posted - 2012.07.13 19:29:00 -
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That's enough now. |
Sten Biller
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.13 21:37:00 -
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I wish I could see screenshots to see how "bad" it looks. Even if it looks bad, a game can still be fun even if the graphics are outdated. I still play Team Fortress 2, even though the engine is very very old. |
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Thomas Horan
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.07.15 14:20:00 -
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I think the OP has the display settings on his PS3 configured incorrectly. Are you sure you're displaying the game in 720p? It looks fine to me, not great, but fine. And games like Uncharted 3 and God of War 3 on my PS3 look as good as anything I've seen on PC. Sure, some of the technical details might be better on PC but in terms of the way it looks and feels, there are games on PS3 that look AMAZING.
FPS games will always look better on PC, however, pretty much as a rule. But not so much better that the PS3 looks bad. The OP must have something configured incorrectly. Check out the screenshots for Dust - they aren't great but they aren't as bad as the OP suggests, for sure.
Why would somebody buy a PS3 as a blu-ray player if they have such disdain for console games? Why not just get yourself a nice blu-ray player? Personally, I LOVE my PS3. Either the OP is confused about his display settings or he is just blowing things way out of proportion. |
Astenion
Nephilim Coalition Zombie Ninja Space Bears
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Posted - 2012.07.15 14:49:00 -
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OP is such a moron that he still hasn't realized that the graphics aren't HD because it's in ******* beta.
"I've never played a PS3 game besides a beta of an experimental game, so I'm gonna jump on the console-hate bandwagon even though I know ****-all about it."
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Ethereal 3600
665 Almost Evil Serenity.
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Posted - 2012.07.15 17:30:00 -
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im with him in this 1 this shooter is a kid shooter
no matter how you look at it dust is nothing diffrent or ground breaking. putting the betta grapics and effects aside the way the game works is no diffrent capture points. spawn points every were. 10 sec spawn timers, huge map but to few players and as such we return to the same old spawn camping, strafing mosh pits, and taking spawn points far befind the half formed front line
what ccp needs to to is re think the base rules for example when you die you go to a clone the clone bay should be this huge facility that is in 1 of 3 places mcc, ship in orbit, or the main base this meens when you die 5 sec latter you pop out of your test tube looking thing suite up and you have 1 of 3 spawn points each offering diffrent options as fallows
1. ship in orbit you pay for a pod that hot drops you and a lil resupply locker exatly were you need to be
2. mcc you can take "your" flying **** from there to the fight or a drone takesyou to a aproximit area and drops you like a bad ass parra trooper
3. main base you can walk there or take "your" tanks jeeps or w/e as well as drop ships and lift a lot of friends to a were ever needed
now when you die you have a negitive as you not only have to pay for lost items but it will be 1-3 min before you get back to the fight so people will think twice before diving into that strafing mosh pit . this game style will only get better with more players like MAG for example 250 players going at it like this wold be the most epic fps ever made
and yes inventing a new spawing system rather then reusing the same out dated method in combo with more players WILL fix most major fps problems and set a new bar you games to also sory about my grammer i relise its bad |
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
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Posted - 2012.07.17 05:49:00 -
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OP is butt-hurt about something?
I personally don't mind the gritty look of it atm, of course it is just a beta.
Its the lack of maps that always get me everytime. Ive been there and done that with the one map syndrome. It will change though. Just a beta afterall. |
Scarlet Sklor
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.17 11:05:00 -
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I'm very much annoyed with the general mentality out there of getting into Betas with the mentality of just trying something out, especially closed Betas. Sometimes it's a studios fault to in recent marketing of keys with games etc. Betas are there for primarily feedback and stress testing, not demoing. Textures aren't the full res, bugs not all out, the list goes on, it's not supposed to be a fully enjoyable experience, it's more for the developers benefit than us but that's ok, I enjoy giving back to the process if I have a chance.
Reviewing a closed beta as a finished product, especially something like Dust which is going to continue to evolve is just, the height of negativity not making any sense to me. |
cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.17 12:10:00 -
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@ OP Its not the games graphics that have me worried. Sure they are below par compared to what I think we would call the standard these days. Im thinking battlefield , call of duty, halo, unreal series etc etc .... [I think they are using the unreal 3 engine am I right?] However the graphics arent terrible and like others have said lets see what they do POST beta.
No the main thing im worried about is the shooting and gameplay, have they improved hitboxes, have they made it feel like your actually shooting powerful weapons and driving huge tanks and stuff.
I personally dont have a PS3 but ive been keeping my eye on this game as i know people who do.
CCP are trying something diffrent BUT they are going into a very crowded FPS market. "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn |
cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.17 12:12:00 -
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Terranid Meester wrote:OP is butt-hurt about something?
I personally don't mind the gritty look of it atm, of course it is just a beta.
Its the lack of maps that always get me everytime. Ive been there and done that with the one map syndrome. It will change though. Just a beta afterall.
So true mate. I find devlopers are getting stuck in the 'populist' trap. Instead of trying new things like they used to. I suppose they feel its a safe bet to go with the flow.
Yes maps are important, and like I said above so is the general feel of the gameplay. "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn |
MidnightWyvern
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.07.19 02:47:00 -
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BalarKel wrote:I've been in a LOT of betas and have never seen anything this bad visually. I was hoping it was just the console. No biggie, just a kiddie shooter anyway.
I just need to remember console games may make the companies that create them more money, but they're still garbage. The Dust 514 Closed Beta would be better described as a playable Alpha. I was in before the E3 build, and I can say that the improvement in animation after that patch was -immense-. They're literally building the game as we play it, so pretty much nothing you see is in any way representative of the final product. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eaUaJUhTZfw#t=148s An excellent example of why pod killmails are the best feature to be implemented in EVE Online since warping at zero. |
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