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Vlodovich
The Professors of Trouser Pastry
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:06:00 -
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I have seen posts about this around many patch days, minor and major updates and expansions. I always read them and think 'silly poster you got it all wrong', but unfortunately I am about to say the same.
Am I on a terrible bad luck streak with the loot fairy or has something actually changed this time? Myself and a couple friends run sites to fund our PvP activities and used to make a decent living. Not mega rich or anything but a couple hundred mil drop here and there, occasional larger A-type drop.
In the last 2 months we have run over 100 sites and have received the escalations and faction spawns from these as regularly as before. Yet in these 2 months no escalation or faction spawn has dropped a single faction or deadspace item. We have made no money whatsoever during this time and our PvP is making it run a little low. We run sites in sansha, bloods, and serpentis space.
Even the 7/10's and such that the wiki says guarantee faction or B/A type loot have dropped us nothing. Our last site we ran was a 6/10 in bloods space that spawned a named overseers battlecruiser in the last pocket and all he dropped was a faint warp disruptor.
Any input?
TL:DR 2 months running over 100 DED sites and not a single drop from all the faction rats we got. |
Shameless Avenger
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:08:00 -
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Can't answer your questions but I found it very hilarious how you use the words "Loot Fairy". |
Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:09:00 -
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i haven't seen a faction spawn in belts for over 2 months, have faction spawns been removed from belts? |
Caitlyn Tufy
Refuge of Hope Lemniskate
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:32:00 -
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I got a few items, though not worth much in total, you know, the usual exploration luck.
If all else fails, sacrifice a matari to the mighty loot gods. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:51:00 -
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I got a shadow serpentis EANM just yesterday in a belt while casually ratting for sec status. I think you are probably just on a statistical downturn. |
lanyaie
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:51:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:I got a few items, though not worth much in total, you know, the usual exploration luck. If all else fails, sacrifice a matari to the mighty loot gods.
Say what? I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:56:00 -
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no wait, I'm pretty sure some sites are 100% drop something.
tell CCP, not the forums. you know what to do don't you? Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:57:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:I got a few items, though not worth much in total, you know, the usual exploration luck. If all else fails, sacrifice a matari to the mighty loot gods.
I resent that.
Sacrifice an Amarrian. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant nor dignified. |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:59:00 -
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Ninja sec grind yesterday, found system with 10+ belts and zero rats. Wasted 20 mins looking for them.
Something is not as it once was.
Tinfoil hat : Dev-swarm sent all rats to delve ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:00:00 -
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The loot fairy is a fickle biatch! |
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:03:00 -
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This thread probably do better in Missions and Complexes sub forum. |
Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:08:00 -
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The loot fairy appreciates sacrifices of all descriptions, the sacrifice of choice for myself and friends when we were wormhole spelunking was female exotic dancers at the sun, I've since sacrificed livestock, militants, male exotic dancers, janitors and tourists with mixed results. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Khanh'rhh
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:11:00 -
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1) Random is random. If you think you see a pattern in something random, you're seeing observational bias
2) If a mod DID start dropping half as often, then it's price would inflate 2x and you'd be earning the same - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:11:00 -
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I'll reply before anyone else says,
The RNG is random. Random is random....
Totally usless answer, but these types of threads always pull in this reply :) |
Kalen Vox
Veyr The Veyr Collective
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:15:00 -
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2 days ago my CEO got 2 dark blood spawns in lowsec belts in an hour or so, and we came across the wreck of a third and yesterday a corpmate completed an escalation and received some C-type and Dark Blood items.
I guess it must just be down to incredibly bad luck? There is always a chance of these things happening, even if it is significantly low. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:22:00 -
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Vlodovich wrote:I have seen posts about this around many patch days, minor and major updates and expansions. I always read them and think 'silly poster you got it all wrong', but unfortunately I am about to say the same.
Am I on a terrible bad luck streak with the loot fairy or has something actually changed this time? Myself and a couple friends run sites to fund our PvP activities and used to make a decent living. Not mega rich or anything but a couple hundred mil drop here and there, occasional larger A-type drop.
In the last 2 months we have run over 100 sites and have received the escalations and faction spawns from these as regularly as before. Yet in these 2 months no escalation or faction spawn has dropped a single faction or deadspace item. We have made no money whatsoever during this time and our PvP is making it run a little low. We run sites in sansha, bloods, and serpentis space.
Even the 7/10's and such that the wiki says guarantee faction or B/A type loot have dropped us nothing. Our last site we ran was a 6/10 in bloods space that spawned a named overseers battlecruiser in the last pocket and all he dropped was a faint warp disruptor.
Any input?
TL:DR 2 months running over 100 DED sites and not a single drop from all the faction rats we got. You're not a goon, nor running sites in Goon space. It's not that hard to figure out! Do you know what a sh*t-barometer is? It measures the sh*t-pressure in the air, did you hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of sh*t... |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:24:00 -
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Halete wrote:Caitlyn Tufy wrote:I got a few items, though not worth much in total, you know, the usual exploration luck. If all else fails, sacrifice a matari to the mighty loot gods. I resent that. Sacrifice an Amarrian.
I send defrosted chickens to Celine Dion with the message 'We're watching you soulless one' carved into their flesh, that seems to work fine. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
Vlodovich
The Professors of Trouser Pastry
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:27:00 -
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I actually thought I had posted in missions/complexes. Ooops. If any forum mods read this I am an idiot please fix me
Eve tribune seems to indicate that certain named final overseers of higher end sites are guaranteed to drop faction/deadspace loot even if it is not worth much. Last night we ran a Blood Raider 8/10 though, finally killed the named overseer guy in the last pocket and he dropped a faint warp disruptor and nothing else. Every time we run these 7/8/9 DED sites we keep saying on the way in '3 months of no drops from factions, this one is gonna be good, it has to be'. Then a damn faint warp disruptor is all we have for our efforts lol.
http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=6_15&page=1
Anyways I always have fun finding and running these sites and dodging gate camps to get there etc so I'm not raging or anything it's just a bit puzzling. |
Vlodovich
The Professors of Trouser Pastry
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:30:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:1) Random is random. If you think you see a pattern in something random, you're seeing observational bias
2) If a mod DID start dropping half as often, then it's price would inflate 2x and you'd be earning the same
Id actually rather the high end mods dropped rarely for us so they remain expensive. Its the getting nothing form any site of any kind thing thats annoying.
I think im probably just in a bad luck streak, any time these threads appear around patch times im always saying to the people invloved 'random is random'.
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Effect One
Selective Hearing Nearly Feared
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:36:00 -
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Buy 1,000 slaves, place them in the cargohold of a Badger Mk II, fly to Dodixie and have an Amarrian kill your ship with a Thrasher. Concord must respond.
Your luck will improve. |
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Khanh'rhh
1618
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:46:00 -
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Vlodovich wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:1) Random is random. If you think you see a pattern in something random, you're seeing observational bias
2) If a mod DID start dropping half as often, then it's price would inflate 2x and you'd be earning the same Id actually rather the high end mods dropped rarely for us so they remain expensive. Its the getting nothing form any site of any kind thing thats annoying. I think im probably just in a bad luck streak, any time these threads appear around patch times im always saying to the people invloved 'random is random'. The drop rates are low, so getting nothing for a decent amount of time is a very possible result.
For instance, if the drop rate were 5% (one in 20) then not getting anything in 100 sites wouldn't be unusual. AFAIK most drop rates are single digit percentages.
On the other hand, EXPECTING to get nothing in 100 sites would be unlikely - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
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Posted - 2012.07.12 12:59:00 -
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Vlodovich wrote:I have seen posts about this around many patch days, minor and major updates and expansions. I always read them and think 'silly poster you got it all wrong', but unfortunately I am about to say the same.
Am I on a terrible bad luck streak with the loot fairy or has something actually changed this time? Myself and a couple friends run sites to fund our PvP activities and used to make a decent living. Not mega rich or anything but a couple hundred mil drop here and there, occasional larger A-type drop.
In the last 2 months we have run over 100 sites and have received the escalations and faction spawns from these as regularly as before. Yet in these 2 months no escalation or faction spawn has dropped a single faction or deadspace item. We have made no money whatsoever during this time and our PvP is making it run a little low. We run sites in sansha, bloods, and serpentis space.
Even the 7/10's and such that the wiki says guarantee faction or B/A type loot have dropped us nothing. Our last site we ran was a 6/10 in bloods space that spawned a named overseers battlecruiser in the last pocket and all he dropped was a faint warp disruptor.
Any input?
TL:DR 2 months running over 100 DED sites and not a single drop from all the faction rats we got.
I got 2.5 bil worth of loot from a 10/10 (the Guristas one) last week, best single drop I've ever had (large booster, xl booster, shield boost amp, em hardner and OPE), this week I've done a bunch of nullsec plexes and made 200 mil tops. Before last week I went 3 weeks without anything really note worthy.
Random is Random.
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