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Jade Mystique
Amarr Tax Free Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.14 13:05:00 -
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CVA in tatters.
The new south is nothing more but a mere image of the greatness which was called CVA and Co.
Today, the new holders live in their constellations and are still trying to burn out the natives, in this case Paxton Federation, truly the last of the Provicans.
Now, every alliance has a constellation, every corp has a system. But do they care about their pilots? Do they grow fat and rich or just enter a state of frenzy and run around shooting others like ignorant little children? How did we let things escalate to what they are today? I admit it, I never did like Aralis, god knows he was a wuss! But things did seem to work.
Today, we donÆt have a stable south, a fully industrialized south, an urban south. Providence does not attract intergalactic migrants. Only thieves, pirates and plunder parties. The poverty rate of Providence is rising at an increased pace.
The unique and historic heritage of Providence is marked as clinically dead.
But has the spirit of the free Providence really departed from that region? Will the free corps and alliances of EVE sit still and watch as the last remains of the old era succumb to the blood thirsty, stenched and drooling hordes of Sodalitas, Agony, EoS and Ushra Khan? Do we leave the freedom fighters to their doom?
I donÆt think so!
I think it is time to make one more stand, hit those cotton pickinÆ bastards right where it hurts them the most and put back the shackles of war on their filthy, maggot-like wrists and fur feet and send them back into the mines where they truly belong.
It is time, my friends! Raise the Bonnie Blue! Hoist the Navy Jack! Stand proud as you hum the Dixie song on your way to do battle! Do not let them bring shame upon your name!
Remember Dital!
It is time to enslave them once more!
GIVE ME PROVIDENCE OR GIVE ME JITA!
Signing offà
Jade Mystique Capt. of the CSS ôOlÆ Alabama Reloadedö
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Moc
Caldari Firebird Squadron
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Posted - 2010.05.14 13:09:00 -
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First
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Faekurias
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.05.14 13:21:00 -
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Nice post, this thread could go places
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Daphney Ommatu
Minmatar Ronin Spectres
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Posted - 2010.05.14 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Mystique hit those cotton pickinÆ bastards
^^ THATS RACIST...I always knew CVA and Co. were racists... |
Jade Mystique
Amarr Tax Free Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.14 14:37:00 -
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If you dont like my Providence, you can kiss my a$$
The south will rise again!
Yeeeehaaaw!
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Tiberizzle
Caldari Tactical Trading Partnership
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Posted - 2010.05.14 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Mystique cotton pickinÆ bastards
why u gotta make it a racial issue dawg
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Mazza
Minmatar Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.05.14 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Mazza on 14/05/2010 17:15:48
Originally by: Tiberizzle
Originally by: Jade Mystique cotton pickinÆ bastards
why u gotta make it a racial issue dawg
Is it coz I's is black??? Yarrrrrrr |
Hash Stanton
Caldari BlackSite Prophecy Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.05.14 18:39:00 -
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I finished reading this and all of a sudden I had Dixie Land Delight in my head.
Roll Tide :D
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Soldur
Caldari Helljumpers Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.05.14 19:40:00 -
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I am from the south IRL and i find all of this very offensive
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Orree
Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.14 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Mystique <snip>
The new south is nothing more but a mere image of the greatness which was called CVA and Co.
<snip>
What?
---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |
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Pachira Lotus
Caldari All Star Shipyards The Castle Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.14 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Pachira Lotus on 14/05/2010 20:24:45 Did CVA cut holes for eye slits in their pillow case's, whilst going on their holy rightious slaving trips to matari space
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DeadDuck
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.14 23:10:00 -
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It's one of my dearest desires. After finishing "some on going tasks" up here in the north, go to Providence and make a good cleansing at all the trash there at the moment, and in the end give it back to the previous rulers, the Amarr Empire.
AMARR VICTOR!
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.14 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck It's one of my dearest desires. After finishing "some on going tasks" up here in the north, go to Providence and make a good cleansing at all the trash there at the moment, and in the end give it back to the previous rulers, the Amarr Empire.
AMARR VICTOR!
Out with the old blob...in with the new.
To the ~wulfpacks~ folks...our cloaks will blot out the --oh **** it tired
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DeadDuck
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.14 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Originally by: DeadDuck It's one of my dearest desires. After finishing "some on going tasks" up here in the north, go to Providence and make a good cleansing at all the trash there at the moment, and in the end give it back to the previous rulers, the Amarr Empire.
AMARR VICTOR!
Out with the old blob...in with the new.
To the ~wulfpacks~ folks...our cloaks will blot out the --oh **** it tired
I have the feeling that you guys had more fun in those times then at the present
God is my Wingman |
Michal Kaczev
Caldari Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.14 23:36:00 -
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Pull your pants up Aralis. It will be ok in Empire.
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Bite me inc.
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Posted - 2010.05.15 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Pachira Lotus Edited by: Pachira Lotus on 14/05/2010 20:24:45 Did CVA cut holes for eye slits in their pillow case's, whilst going on their holy rightious slaving trips to matari space
The short answer? No. The long answer? Yes. __________________________________________________
History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.. |
Vigilanta
Amarr S0utherN Comfort Enforcers of Serenity
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Posted - 2010.05.15 00:54:00 -
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wow. im amazed whoever's alt this is thought it worthy to mention EOS, but forget to mention dashio syndicate choas theory noir. ect. Not that i don't mind. But i have to admit our co residents have done much more work then we have, though I do wish i could say we had contributed more to the effort. Post with your main, alt posting is cowardly.
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Ocih
Amarr The Program Vanguard.
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Posted - 2010.05.15 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck It's one of my dearest desires. After finishing "some on going tasks" up here in the north, go to Providence and make a good cleansing at all the trash there at the moment, and in the end give it back to the previous rulers, the Amarr Empire.
AMARR VICTOR!
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Salivan Harddin
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.15 08:24:00 -
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Posting with alts is the hip way, all the cool kids do it! (I too, am an alt of an alt of an alt of an alt which is this alt...Oh wait I got confused, who am I again?) -------------------------------------------------- Proud member of Northern Coalition - ôOur lives fleeting, our pods fragile, but our friendship eternalö |
Larg Kellein
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.15 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Mystique
Will the free corps and alliances of EVE sit still and watch as the last remains of the old era succumb to the blood thirsty, stenched and drooling hordes of Sodalitas, Agony, EoS and Ushra Khan?
Now wait just a minute! We may be blood thirsty, and possibly stenched (not sure how we manage it, our pod juice is 90% blended roses and unicorns), but I'll have you know every Agony pilot comes fully equipped with a paper towel for drool management. If you feel our efforts in this respect are lacking, I urge you to contact our complaints department within no more of 24 hours of your arrival in Jita.
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.15 10:37:00 -
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It is not often Im trying to be serious and try to post some real conten in this spaceshipgame, so I gonna say something very importent about Providence
Ready?
Oki here it comes:
Doctor Doctor give me the newz, I got a bad case of loving you!!!!!
thank you mr Robert Palmer for that useful tip and wisedom
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.15 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Out with the old blob...in with the new.
I couldn't describe the new Providence better! Shame that the new residents are even less willing to fight than Providence was. Oh well, I guess that is what happens when you replace everything with carebears. ---
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.15 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck
I have the feeling that you guys had more fun in those times then at the present
you're wrong (as always) ----------
~bitter dog~
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Salivan Harddin
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.15 11:19:00 -
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Finally, a Butter Dog appearance, I was beginning to fear that CCP has silenced my favorite troll once more!
Down with the censorship.
I totally see the new Providence able to defend itself in the future after -A- will get the short stick from the NC and CVA and its allies re-build themselves.
Wait for MAX_2 to be over for some new Providence hilarity. -------------------------------------------------- ****ing in his own cheerios since 2007 |
DeadDuck
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.15 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Out with the old blob...in with the new.
I couldn't describe the new Providence better! Shame that the new residents are even less willing to fight than Providence was. Oh well, I guess that is what happens when you replace everything with carebears.
Well the old Providence was willing to fight until it started to be fashion go there and kill stuff. For the roaming gangs was easy to get there and pick kills and then go home. For the Providence residents at certain time it wasn't worth it the time to pass 24h/7d after roaming gangs using cloaks and more interested in collect kills(ganks/easy kills) then pick a good fight.
God is my Wingman |
Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.15 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Butter Dog on 15/05/2010 13:01:31
Originally by: Salivan Harddin
I totally see the new Providence able to defend itself in the future after -A- will get the short stick from the NC and CVA and its allies re-build themselves.
you're quite the master strategist ----------
~bitter dog~
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.15 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Out with the old blob...in with the new.
I couldn't describe the new Providence better! Shame that the new residents are even less willing to fight than Providence was. Oh well, I guess that is what happens when you replace everything with carebears.
Oh I dunno about that. Seems to me you folks are having a good ole time skirmishing with UK pilots the last couple days around 9UY/KBP. At least the amount of red splashed on the UK killboard indicates that .
As far as vague threats from the NC dude...whatever. If you are looking for some sort of by-proxy N-v-S zone in Providence hey great fabulous. Then you can get to read the endless moans and whines waxing nostalgic about the "old Provi" and how you should administer the space blah blah blah lolrp etc ad naseum.
Of course there is the fact that when CVA and co actually needed your interest there was no help to be found as you folks and IT/pals were BSOD'ing away in whatever part of the universe you inhabit.
Anyway...."old blob new blob" does not really pertain to the current state of Provi as the fleet fights remain actually playable with 2-300 pilots duking it out from time-to-time. And UK continues to go from strength to strength learning as it goes.
Except in the case of Genos/Hydra. Goddamn it Garmon
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Noobjuice
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.15 15:50:00 -
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Ruleofthebone, I may be coming for you soon. For those smack talking Aralis, I'm going to teach you some manners.
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StonerPhReaK
Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.15 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Out with the old blob...in with the new.
I couldn't describe the new Providence better! Shame that the new residents are even less willing to fight than Providence was. Oh well, I guess that is what happens when you replace everything with carebears.
Cause hydra is a super elite pet and cant be beat..Yeah...Come in looking for easy kills,Cant find any,Chestbeat we cant beat u..QQ? We mount a force.Not a blob either,Far from it actually. U guys run for the boarder...Spin it whichever way u want,Your still not as elite as u claim.Also nice bombing run fail.Elite? Not by far.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.15 16:05:00 -
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Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 15/05/2010 16:14:50 Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 15/05/2010 16:11:00
Originally by: Noobjuice Ruleofthebone, I may be coming for you soon. For those smack talking Aralis, I'm going to teach you some manners.
People of Snigg
Hi noobjuice...been a while. When I saw you and Shamis (in a Curse no less) on the BR for the festivities earlier in the week I was like . Then I was like as while crappy to be on the recieving end of PL's gentle attentions (fist rofl) it's nice to see PL back ****ting all over everyone.
Of course I would prefer not to personally be the subject of your regard. I may have to initiate Bonesphere mk1.1 (patent pending) and crawl into a WH for a few weeks or something.
Although if by "coming for me" you are requesting diplomatic talks in order to schedule PL integration with UK please contact Butter Dog for pr0 diplomatic negotiation
**edit**How's that for ****-stirring rumor mongering...PL/UK BFF alliance. The tears from my end would be delicious but return-to-favor-FOTM-meets-lolrp is too much for anyone to swallow I suppose. I'm a terrible troll
**edit**sorry I missed the fun earlier this week. I was in bed enduring a bout of stomach flu so terrible to behold it made the poop scene with Jeff Daniels in "Dumb and Dumber" look positively gentle.
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Salivan Harddin
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.15 16:08:00 -
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Well dawg, I can play table strategist no less better than most people around here. Seeing the SC, I might even be a bit better :P -------------------------------------------------- ****ing in his own cheerios since 2007 |
Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.15 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Salivan Harddin Well dawg, I can play table strategist no less better than most people around here. Seeing the SC, I might even be a bit better :P
ITT - poasts relevant to providence Salivan.
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Salivan Harddin
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.15 20:35:00 -
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Wait, I thought we were relevant to Providence? I seriously need to learn how to read maps...H-W is in Delve, right?
-****ing in his own cheerios since 2007 -Dreddit fan since 15/5/2010
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Ocih
Amarr The Program Vanguard.
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Posted - 2010.05.16 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Salivan Harddin Wait, I thought we were relevant to Providence? I seriously need to learn how to read maps...H-W is in Delve, right?
SC social services have reviewed your application for subsidized housing in the Providence projects and regret to imform you that you do not qualify. |
Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.16 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: StonerPhReaK
Cause hydra is a super elite pet and cant be beat..Yeah...Come in looking for easy kills,Cant find any,Chestbeat we cant beat u..QQ? We mount a force.Not a blob either,Far from it actually. U guys run for the boarder...Spin it whichever way u want,Your still not as elite as u claim.Also nice bombing run fail.Elite? Not by far.
I never said that we were elite or couldn't be beat. Please read my post properly. I just said it seems to me that most organisations in Providence are less than willing to give a fight. Ushra'Khan, Empire of Serenity and Star Fraction seem to be the only alliances that will actually fight frequently without a massive numerical advantage. Granted we haven't really been around the southern Providence area too much and it's chaotic right now with Paxton's space being sieged. It's just plain embarrassing when we enter Opticon space with a 7 man gang and their 17 man gang gatecamp (camping their own space), which is very battleship/battlecruiser heavy with 2 Rapiers just docks up.
We are not a 'pet' of any kind as we do not have any blue standings aside from CVA/Paxton, and we are operating completely independent of them. Pet is such an awful word, but do you honestly think a guerilla PvP alliance that has no sovereignity, operates independently and has next to no standings is a 'pet' and Sodalitas XX isn't, based on your own definition of the word?
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Salivan Harddin
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.16 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ocih
Originally by: Salivan Harddin Wait, I thought we were relevant to Providence? I seriously need to learn how to read maps...H-W is in Delve, right?
SC social services have reviewed your application for subsidized housing in the Providence projects and regret to imform you that you do not qualify.
:(
Do you have any other places to offer me state housing? Its rather cold in the streets this time of year, and my cardboard box has a leak in it -****ing in his own cheerios since 2007 -Dreddit fan since 15/5/2010 -They see me trollin, they hatin
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Salivan Harddin
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.16 11:25:00 -
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To make things easy for everyone, I navigated the treacherous seas of dictionaries (I googled it! So what, sue me) and found the definition of pet: n.
1. An animal kept for amusement or companionship. 2. An object of the affections. 3. A person especially loved or indulged; a favorite: the teacher's pet.
adj.
1. Kept as a pet: a pet cat. 2. a. Particularly cherished or indulged: a pet grandchild. b. Expressing or showing affection: a pet name. 3. Being a favorite: a pet topic.
Thus to further help the people of this thread in discussion.
Cause I just love to help people ^^ -****ing in his own cheerios since 2007 -Dreddit fan since 15/5/2010 -They see me trollin, they hatin
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El'Tar
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.16 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: StonerPhReaK
Cause hydra is a super elite pet and cant be beat..Yeah...Come in looking for easy kills,Cant find any,Chestbeat we cant beat u..QQ? We mount a force.Not a blob either,Far from it actually. U guys run for the boarder...Spin it whichever way u want,Your still not as elite as u claim.Also nice bombing run fail.Elite? Not by far.
Please, try to defend your space more often, we had plenty of good fights with your "Mounted Force" untill you came to the conclusion that you will never win, the only people trying to defend your space now is U'K and they have my respect for that
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Salivan Harddin
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.16 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Salivan Harddin on 16/05/2010 12:01:46 http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Pet
Please tell me if there is something I missed out on, or need to fix.
Any submission and\or change will be viewed and incorporated in this essay.
I would not be taking names of alliances as examples of pets, please do not insert names.
Thank you in advance, Salivan Harddin Self Styled Editor
Edit: I suck at creating links! -****ing in his own cheerios since 2007 -Dreddit fan since 15/5/2010 -They see me trollin, they hatin
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StonerPhReaK
Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.16 13:19:00 -
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Your right pet is a harsh word...Please accept my apology.These forums are like brainwashers with the oldscool ringer.GL with the good fights.
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Jade Mystique
Amarr Tax Free Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.19 18:19:00 -
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Be quiet Sodalitas, you have too many blues to even part-take in this discussion.
You whine about Star Fraction and Jade Constantine, laugh at -A- and Ushra Khan, bicker about pointless issues regarding Daisho and plan to turn over and play dead in case of a fight of epic magnitude.
To quote an FC of yours: "Why do we need to help UK kick Paxton out? We got what we wanted and now we can use it for our own benefit. Screw UK and Paxton, let them handle it on their own"
Btw, whens the reset due to happen?
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Mazca Lopez
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.05.19 20:58:00 -
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One question:
Will you be coming in hot?
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StonerPhReaK
Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.19 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Mystique Be quiet Sodalitas, you have too many blues to even part-take in this discussion.
You whine about Star Fraction and Jade Constantine, laugh at -A- and Ushra Khan, bicker about pointless issues regarding Daisho and plan to turn over and play dead in case of a fight of epic magnitude.
To quote an FC of yours: "Why do we need to help UK kick Paxton out? We got what we wanted and now we can use it for our own benefit. Screw UK and Paxton, let them handle it on their own"
Btw, whens the reset due to happen?
Your intelidar is off...i suggest gettin it fixed,We dont have FC's we have doods who play innerweb spaceships. BTW who are u?
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Han Lector
Amarr Griefer-B-Gone Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.19 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: StonerPhReaK
BTW who are u?
He is NC alt in corp. created for tax evasion purposes. That and for the reason of incognito posting on CAOD.
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Cyrus Doul
Caldari Cosmic Vacum Cleaners Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.20 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vigilanta wow. im amazed whoever's alt this is thought it worthy to mention EOS, but forget to mention dashio syndicate choas theory noir. ect. Not that i don't mind. But i have to admit our co residents have done much more work then we have, though I do wish i could say we had contributed more to the effort. Post with your main, alt posting is cowardly.
Well when every alt is tallens of course you get mentioned vigi.
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Kishin Sendo
Minmatar Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:36:00 -
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I just want to say, the Providence region map now looks more complicated than the Balkans map before World War I and also after Soviet Union after 1991
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png
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Doppleganger
Minmatar Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.21 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kishin Sendo I just want to say, the Providence region map now looks more complicated than the Balkans map before World War I and also after Soviet Union after 1991
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png
I think Prov is going for a scaled down look of the rest of the eve map.. that good old skittles look.
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Cyrus Doul
Caldari Cosmic Vacum Cleaners Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 17:48:00 -
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mummm, skittles. Can we add some red in and get the vodka from them? I hear its good stuff when you mix those two together.
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Ocih
Amarr The Program Vanguard.
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Posted - 2010.05.22 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kishin Sendo I just want to say, the Providence region map now looks more complicated than the Balkans map before World War I and also after Soviet Union after 1991
The word you are looking for is Ghetto. |
Codo Yagari
Amarr Yulai Guard
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Posted - 2010.05.23 19:23:00 -
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So, what will it take for some of you to admit the truth?
Not taking into account the Honourable Paxton Federation, Providence has been taken over by a multitude of different pirate and NBSI groups (certainly, there are also one or two groups in Provi now that claim to be NRDS, but considering who they are cooperating with there, how can anyone take them serious?)
A horde of pirates and other disrespectfuls now reside in most of Providence. Admit this, and take responsibility of your actions. There is only one thing that can bring you back to the right side of things.
Embrace NRDS and stop working with those who do not!
Honour and Decency! o7 ---
Empress Jamyl I |
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Doppleganger
Minmatar Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.23 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ocih The word you are looking for is Ghetto.
Well for the 7 yrs I have been playing Prov has always been a ghetto..... there was just a change in slum lords from one to many.
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Koronos
Minmatar Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.05.24 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Codo Yagari Edited by: Codo Yagari on 23/05/2010 19:34:16
So, what will it take for some of you to admit the truth?
Not taking into account the Honourable Paxton Federation, Providence has been taken over by a multitude of different pirate and NBSI groups (certainly, there are also one or two groups in Provi now that claim to be NRDS, but considering who they are cooperating with there, how can anyone take them seriously?)
A horde of pirates and other disrespectfuls now reside in most of Providence. Admit this, and take responsibility of your actions. There is only one thing that can bring you back to the right side of things.
Embrace NRDS and stop working with those who do not!
Honour and Decency! o7
Damn, I read your whole post and right up until the next-to-last line I thought you were going to say "kill 'em all".
Anyway, that's pretty much our solution.
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.05.24 07:30:00 -
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Just what EVE needed, another longwinded "Jade."
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Ocih
Amarr The Program Vanguard.
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Posted - 2010.05.24 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Doppleganger
Originally by: Ocih The word you are looking for is Ghetto.
Well for the 7 yrs I have been playing Prov has always been a ghetto..... there was just a change in slum lords from one to many.
Having been a member of Sylph, LFA and CVA I can say they all paid thier own bills, worked thier own space, did thier own thing. Pax, Aegis and a few others added to the mix, there were always many. Now there are dots on the map and no pilots in space. R3, N8, XR3 would have a minmum of 75 people 23/7. Kari Gate was always busy. Not any more. If 20 people showed up in R3, IT and -A- would log on thier alts and run them off.
I dont mind. CVA is a legacy alliance. Sylph, Pax, LFA, Aegis, they built Prov. I said 5 months ago Prov would get outpost farmed. None of this came as a surprise to me. If Ushra'Khan or IT think they got respet or got rep or who the hell knows? Its CVAs legacy and it always will be. They were only slum lords because nobody else could do what they did on the budgets they had.
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CATTYS
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.05.24 12:01:00 -
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loool too manny pep in providence now....i expect some standing reset sone...
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Codo Yagari
Amarr Yulai Guard
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Posted - 2010.05.26 12:35:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Koronos Damn, I read your whole post and right up until the next-to-last line I thought you were going to say "kill 'em all".
Anyway, that's pretty much our solution.
Dont be surprised to wake up one day and find that this attitude is reversed and is aimed towards yourself. When that happens I hope for your sake that the ruler of the universe will forgive you when you repent.
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Just what EVE needed, another longwinded "Jade."
Considering the current average level of mental and social abilities in and around New Eden, we need more propagators for NRDS and decent behaviour. I dont care what you think, but New Eden deserves better than to be ruled by people who just want to blow things up.
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Corprate Flunky
Caldari Chooch Inc. Twilight Federation
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Posted - 2010.05.26 16:59:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Corprate Flunky on 26/05/2010 17:00:42
Originally by: Jade Mystique
The poverty rate of Providence is rising at an increased pace.
<Checks Wallet>.... Really?
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Pistrik
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.26 17:08:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Codo Yagari
Originally by: Koronos Damn, I read your whole post and right up until the next-to-last line I thought you were going to say "kill 'em all".
Anyway, that's pretty much our solution.
Dont be surprised to wake up one day and find that this attitude is reversed and is aimed towards yourself. When that happens I hope for your sake that the ruler of the universe will forgive you when you repent.
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Just what EVE needed, another longwinded "Jade."
Considering the current average level of mental and social abilities in and around New Eden, we need more propagators for NRDS and decent behaviour. I dont care what you think, but New Eden deserves better than to be ruled by people who just want to blow things up.
That's what high sec is for. In this mythical place, you can dance and frolic and rp to your hearts content without worrying about the big bad people shooting your internet pixels.
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immortal son
Gallente Southern Cross Trilogy Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2010.05.27 10:58:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Codo Yagari
Originally by: Koronos Damn, I read your whole post and right up until the next-to-last line I thought you were going to say "kill 'em all".
Anyway, that's pretty much our solution.
Dont be surprised to wake up one day and find that this attitude is reversed and is aimed towards yourself. When that happens I hope for your sake that the ruler of the universe will forgive you when you repent.
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Just what EVE needed, another longwinded "Jade."
Considering the current average level of mental and social abilities in and around New Eden, we need more propagators for NRDS and decent behaviour. I dont care what you think, but New Eden deserves better than to be ruled by people who just want to blow things up.
You don't belong in 0.0 space. Its people like you that makes eve boring.
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Adeptus mecanicus
Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:23:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Codo Yagari
Originally by: Koronos Damn, I read your whole post and right up until the next-to-last line I thought you were going to say "kill 'em all".
Anyway, that's pretty much our solution.
Dont be surprised to wake up one day and find that this attitude is reversed and is aimed towards yourself. When that happens I hope for your sake that the ruler of the universe will forgive you when you repent.
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Just what EVE needed, another longwinded "Jade."
Considering the current average level of mental and social abilities in and around New Eden, we need more propagators for NRDS and decent behaviour. I dont care what you think, but New Eden deserves better than to be ruled by people who just want to blow things up.
so yes i can see your dream......macro ice miners in 0.0 and belt ratters and miners all sitting safe and snug, oh btw market and trade as you know it whold die due to your tree hugging hippe dream m8
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Ocih
Amarr The Program Vanguard.
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Posted - 2010.05.28 00:21:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Adeptus mecanicus
Originally by: Codo Yagari
Originally by: Koronos Damn, I read your whole post and right up until the next-to-last line I thought you were going to say "kill 'em all".
Anyway, that's pretty much our solution.
Dont be surprised to wake up one day and find that this attitude is reversed and is aimed towards yourself. When that happens I hope for your sake that the ruler of the universe will forgive you when you repent.
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Just what EVE needed, another longwinded "Jade."
Considering the current average level of mental and social abilities in and around New Eden, we need more propagators for NRDS and decent behaviour. I dont care what you think, but New Eden deserves better than to be ruled by people who just want to blow things up.
so yes i can see your dream......macro ice miners in 0.0 and belt ratters and miners all sitting safe and snug, oh btw market and trade as you know it whold die due to your tree hugging hippe dream m8
6 years of NRDS Provi, New Eden didnt crash and burn in a nightmarish carebear hell. Nobody macro mined, not for very long. Too many wannabe null sec pirates for that. All the macro mining goes on in the 70 system megacorps because nobody will get near the hub before someone spots them.
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Pistrik
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.28 08:31:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Pistrik on 28/05/2010 08:32:07
Originally by: Ocih
Originally by: Adeptus mecanicus
Originally by: Codo Yagari
Originally by: Koronos Damn, I read your whole post and right up until the next-to-last line I thought you were going to say "kill 'em all".
Anyway, that's pretty much our solution.
Dont be surprised to wake up one day and find that this attitude is reversed and is aimed towards yourself. When that happens I hope for your sake that the ruler of the universe will forgive you when you repent.
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Just what EVE needed, another longwinded "Jade."
Considering the current average level of mental and social abilities in and around New Eden, we need more propagators for NRDS and decent behaviour. I dont care what you think, but New Eden deserves better than to be ruled by people who just want to blow things up.
so yes i can see your dream......macro ice miners in 0.0 and belt ratters and miners all sitting safe and snug, oh btw market and trade as you know it whold die due to your tree hugging hippe dream m8
6 years of NRDS Provi, New Eden didnt crash and burn in a nightmarish carebear hell. Nobody macro mined, not for very long. Too many wannabe null sec pirates for that. All the macro mining goes on in the 70 system megacorps because nobody will get near the hub before someone spots them.
Got any more utter rubish you want to lay on us?
You just sort of confirmed that the only reason you DIDN'T have too many macro miners was because of the NBSI people who infiltrated providence and took care of them. So in essence, yes... he is right. If providence had been a true NRDS, you would have been nothing but a macro miner hell with carebear flavorings.
Luckily that is no longer the case.
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Adeptus mecanicus
Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2010.05.28 10:45:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Pistrik Edited by: Pistrik on 28/05/2010 08:32:07
Originally by: Ocih
Originally by: Adeptus mecanicus
so yes i can see your dream......macro ice miners in 0.0 and belt ratters and miners all sitting safe and snug, oh btw market and trade as you know it whold die due to your tree hugging hippe dream m8
6 years of NRDS Provi, New Eden didnt crash and burn in a nightmarish carebear hell. Nobody macro mined, not for very long. Too many wannabe null sec pirates for that. All the macro mining goes on in the 70 system megacorps because nobody will get near the hub before someone spots them.
Got any more utter rubish you want to lay on us?
You just sort of confirmed that the only reason you DIDN'T have too many macro miners was because of the NBSI people who infiltrated providence and took care of them. So in essence, yes... he is right. If providence had been a true NRDS, you would have been nothing but a macro miner hell with carebear flavorings.
Luckily that is no longer the case.
Im unshure if Ocih was trying to be ironic
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.30 10:46:00 -
[64]
This thread is awesome. Needs more drool.
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Neutrino Sunset
Minmatar Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
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Posted - 2010.05.31 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Doppleganger Well for the 7 yrs I have been playing Prov has always been a ghetto..... there was just a change in slum lords from one to many.
Except that the old Providence was one of (if not the) most developed regions of nullsec in the whole of Eve and was certainly the most outsider friendly.
Originally by: Pistrik You just sort of confirmed that the only reason you DIDN'T have too many macro miners was because of the NBSI people who infiltrated providence and took care of them. So in essence, yes... he is right. If providence had been a true NRDS, you would have been nothing but a macro miner hell with carebear flavorings.
Luckily that is no longer the case.
If you think the point of NRDS is to eliminate PvP you're falling into the trap of mixing up the RP with the real world intentions. The point of NRDS isn't to stifle combat at all. The point of NRDS is provide an environment not completely suicidal to neutrals trying to make a living and in doing so providing enough of a population of low and average skilled neutrals that it attracts small gang and solo pirate outfits and similarly sized anti-pirate outfits thereby promoting enjoyable small gang and solo combat of a kind you don't find much of elsewhere in Eve. Which is what the old Providence had in sackfulls, although admittedly mixed in with the odd blob and hot drop here and there. In short it was diverse.
The new Providence though is just the same homogenous roaming gangs of Counterstrike in Space style blow **** up for no real reason type combat you get in nullsec everwhere, except in the new Providence it's even worse than anywhere else because with the NIP enforced by -A- it's now a pointless circlejerk of monstrous proportions and is now a region devoid of any life or character whatsoever.
As far as I can tell the only people that seem to think that's a good thing are the ones who couldn't get space any other way than by having -A- and Atlas conquer it for them and who are now happily carebearing away in the safest nullsec protectorate in Eve.
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Arama Bishop
Gallente Holiday On ICE Quasar Generation
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:16:00 -
[66]
I agree, now EVE began to be a joke for new player or small corporation or alliance.
For them they are no way to began to learn the 0.0, the old Providence was a place, where a lot of player have learn how do you leave in 0.0
Now for these player they are not a lot of choice.
- Stay in empire - Become pets of NC - Become pets of SC
CVA and holder have certainly make an error with the attack of HED. But AAA has destroy the freedom of EVE than was Providence.
Thx also to CCP, when some full cap fleet was destroy in problem of loading grid resulting the lost of 100% sov after that, Perhaps they are some real problem more important than planet mining.
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Zealch
Caldari Moonlight Industrys
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Posted - 2010.05.31 13:49:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Arama Bishop I agree, now EVE began to be a joke for new player or small corporation or alliance.
For them they are no way to began to learn the 0.0, the old Providence was a place, where a lot of player have learn how do you leave in 0.0
Now for these player they are not a lot of choice.
- Stay in empire - Become pets of NC - Become pets of SC
CVA and holder have certainly make an error with the attack of HED. But AAA has destroy the freedom of EVE than was Providence.
Thx also to CCP, when some full cap fleet was destroy in problem of loading grid resulting the lost of 100% sov after that, Perhaps they are some real problem more important than planet mining.
From the sidelines imo it seems great in theory, but also seems the new owners want to promote small alliance pvp. However with CVA NAPing everyone around they are just creating another NC vs SC in a smaller scale. Most threads already point out the new provi block will reset each other once the battle of provi is over.
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ImmaSplodeYou
Amarr Hounds of Cullan
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Posted - 2010.05.31 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Mystique How did we let things escalate to what they are today?
AFAICT you lost
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ShadowandLight
Amarr 142nd GhostRiders
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Posted - 2010.05.31 18:57:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Arama Bishop
Thx also to CCP, when some full cap fleet was destroy in problem of loading grid resulting the lost of 100% sov after that, Perhaps they are some real problem more important than planet mining.
Thats a pretty damn good point
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S21 Duch
Amarr Assisted Genocide
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Posted - 2010.05.31 19:59:00 -
[70]
Edited by: S21 Duch on 31/05/2010 20:00:14
Originally by: Zealch
Originally by: Arama Bishop I agree, now EVE began to be a joke for new player or small corporation or alliance.
For them they are no way to began to learn the 0.0, the old Providence was a place, where a lot of player have learn how do you leave in 0.0
Now for these player they are not a lot of choice.
- Stay in empire - Become pets of NC - Become pets of SC
CVA and holder have certainly make an error with the attack of HED. But AAA has destroy the freedom of EVE than was Providence.
Thx also to CCP, when some full cap fleet was destroy in problem of loading grid resulting the lost of 100% sov after that, Perhaps they are some real problem more important than planet mining.
From the sidelines imo it seems great in theory, but also seems the new owners want to promote small alliance pvp. However with CVA NAPing everyone around they are just creating another NC vs SC in a smaller scale. Most threads already point out the new provi block will reset each other once the battle of provi is over.
God forbid there is a place in Eve where small gang roaming skirmish PVP can flourish. It's refreshing to be able to fly around and not see that 80 person old school proviblob camping a gate thinking they where having the pvp experience of a lifetime.
Once the provi reset occurs and the current holders are ready to focus on pvping each other and not napping to deal with cva/pxf it may even feel like the old days in eve where a small gang of 5 or so can roam, fight, kill and die and while having good times.
Teach new players the value of small gang pvp and not the idea that you need to be in a gang of 100 with 25 logistics to have fun.
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Arama Bishop
Gallente Holiday On ICE Quasar Generation
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Posted - 2010.05.31 20:19:00 -
[71]
Quote: God forbid there is a place in Eve where small gang roaming skirmish PVP can flourish. It's refreshing to be able to fly around and not see that 80 person old school proviblob camping a gate thinking they where having the pvp experience of a lifetime.
Once the provi reset occurs and the current holders are ready to focus on pvping each other and not napping to deal with cva/pxf it may even feel like the old days in eve where a small gang of 5 or so can roam, fight, kill and die and while having good times.
Teach new players the value of small gang pvp and not the idea that you need to be in a gang of 100 with 25 logistics to have fun.
About PVP they are not differenc between now and before for me. The biggest difference is that providence is close for about 65 % of the new player. Providence was the third place in eve (number of people). Now it's about not more than other 0.0 I have not idea if AAA stay in the history about the war against the NC. But i am sure than AAA stay in the story about kill the only freedom place in eve.
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Zealch
Caldari Moonlight Industrys
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Posted - 2010.05.31 21:50:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Arama Bishop
I have not idea if AAA stay in the history about the war against the NC. But i am sure than AAA stay in the story about kill the only freedom place in eve.
Isn't all of eve free space? Teaching players a false hood of 0.0 and declaring Providence as free space isn't good way for new players to learn. Allowing players to fly under the iron curtain, with the holders acting as they were concord isn't free. True free space is 0.0 and not empire. No rules, no laws, only freedom.
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Ocih
Amarr The Program Vanguard.
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Posted - 2010.05.31 22:57:00 -
[73]
Originally by: S21 Duch
God forbid there is a place in Eve where small gang roaming skirmish PVP can flourish. It's refreshing to be able to fly around and not see that 80 person old school proviblob camping a gate thinking they where having the pvp experience of a lifetime.
Once the provi reset occurs and the current holders are ready to focus on pvping each other and not napping to deal with cva/pxf it may even feel like the old days in eve where a small gang of 5 or so can roam, fight, kill and die and while having good times.
Teach new players the value of small gang pvp and not the idea that you need to be in a gang of 100 with 25 logistics to have fun.
No.
what I see happening is every pet alliance and thier dog who think they want to be a Sov holder will trade systems with the ones that are there now. Each set including the ones that are there now will figure out that being a Sov holder is about as fun as being a secretary at a dental office. After some time, CVA will recover most of thier systems, not including the Kari pipe because the Kari Pipe fetish is 5 years old and -A- and Atlas will absorb the cost of it for some imaginary reason. Provi is poor null sec. It survived on the ISK created from NRDS policy and we saw alot of Outposts and no super caps. NRDS or NBSI, Provi will never build its own Titans or super caps or will do so at 5% of the rate other null sec areas of EvE will and will always be subject to the bad mood of any Supercap alliance with a notion to take it. Just like U'K couldnt take it for 7 years without -A- and Atlas, U'K wont hold it without -A- and Atlas. They will get tired of running to the rescue for bad space. The only people who ever truly wanted Provi was CVA. Everyone else just didnt want them to have it for no obvious reason other than it gave them something to hate that they might actually be able to confront. |
S21 Duch
Amarr Assisted Genocide
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Posted - 2010.06.01 01:41:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Ocih
No.
what I see happening is every pet alliance and thier dog who think they want to be a Sov holder will trade systems with the ones that are there now. Each set including the ones that are there now will figure out that being a Sov holder is about as fun as being a secretary at a dental office. After some time, CVA will recover most of thier systems, not including the Kari pipe because the Kari Pipe fetish is 5 years old and -A- and Atlas will absorb the cost of it for some imaginary reason. Provi is poor null sec. It survived on the ISK created from NRDS policy and we saw alot of Outposts and no super caps. NRDS or NBSI, Provi will never build its own Titans or super caps or will do so at 5% of the rate other null sec areas of EvE will and will always be subject to the bad mood of any Supercap alliance with a notion to take it. Just like U'K couldnt take it for 7 years without -A- and Atlas, U'K wont hold it without -A- and Atlas. They will get tired of running to the rescue for bad space. The only people who ever truly wanted Provi was CVA. Everyone else just didnt want them to have it for no obvious reason other than it gave them something to hate that they might actually be able to confront.
I think your forgetting that this space isn't so terrible after Dominion came out with the ability to upgrade systems, just ask Daisho Syndicate who love to run those Sanctums 23/7 in Super Carriers, let alone the grav site mining ops :)
If push came to shove and CVA became a major threat I'm sure -A- would gladly come and defend it's fish farm. I can't see them giving up their only close roaming grounds. Must feel funny living in a Russian fish farm getting plump and ready for harvest,Ii'm sure if 1 sov holder wants out there are 3 ore small alliances more than happy to take their spot.
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Cyrus Doul
Caldari Cosmic Vacum Cleaners Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.01 01:55:00 -
[75]
Originally by: S21 Duch Edited by: S21 Duch on 01/06/2010 01:47:14
If push came to shove and CVA became a major threat I'm sure -A- would gladly come and defend it's fish farm. I can't see them giving up their only close roaming grounds. Must feel funny living in a Russian fish farm getting plump and ready for harvest.
I'm sure if 1 sov holder wants out there are 3 ore small alliances more than happy to take their spot.
i thought aaa was german. I guess I don't pay attention.
Also, already happened. EOS left and important internet spaceship league moved in. then two days later blew up a freighter.
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5kyscreamx
Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.01 04:30:00 -
[76]
Originally by: S21 Duch Edited by: S21 Duch on 31/05/2010 20:00:14
Originally by: Zealch
Originally by: Arama Bishop I agree, now EVE began to be a joke for new player or small corporation or alliance.
For them they are no way to began to learn the 0.0, the old Providence was a place, where a lot of player have learn how do you leave in 0.0
Now for these player they are not a lot of choice.
- Stay in empire - Become pets of NC - Become pets of SC
CVA and holder have certainly make an error with the attack of HED. But AAA has destroy the freedom of EVE than was Providence.
Thx also to CCP, when some full cap fleet was destroy in problem of loading grid resulting the lost of 100% sov after that, Perhaps they are some real problem more important than planet mining.
From the sidelines imo it seems great in theory, but also seems the new owners want to promote small alliance pvp. However with CVA NAPing everyone around they are just creating another NC vs SC in a smaller scale. Most threads already point out the new provi block will reset each other once the battle of provi is over.
God forbid there is a place in Eve where small gang roaming skirmish PVP can flourish. It's refreshing to be able to fly around and not see that 80 person old school proviblob camping a gate thinking they where having the pvp experience of a lifetime.
Once the provi reset occurs and the current holders are ready to focus on pvping each other and not napping to deal with cva/pxf it may even feel like the old days in eve where a small gang of 5 or so can roam, fight, kill and die and while having good times.
Teach new players the value of small gang pvp and not the idea that you need to be in a gang of 100 with 25 logistics to have fun.
err. pretty sure you guys barely leave the dital gate in your dr4k3s and smartbombing ph00n =====
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S21 Duch
Amarr Assisted Genocide
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Posted - 2010.06.01 09:19:00 -
[77]
Originally by: 5kyscreamx
err. pretty sure you guys barely leave the dital gate in your dr4k3s and smartbombing ph00n
U Mad
Hydra must be missing the gate
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SwindonBadger
Gallente 0utbreak
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Posted - 2010.06.01 13:16:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Arama Bishop I agree, now EVE began to be a joke for new player or small corporation or alliance.
For them they are no way to began to learn the 0.0, the old Providence was a place, where a lot of player have learn how do you leave in 0.0
Now for these player they are not a lot of choice.
- Stay in empire - Become pets of NC - Become pets of SC
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ADD > join pirates say yargh go wherever in 0.0 u want to dangle your balls. Watch big blobby allainces stumble for hours over a poss while u do a few laps of someone elses space taking candy from bears and tickling the deffence force with 15k 93nice disrupter.
u could join a fun going 0.0 outfit after a few days training and a rifter, if u want to sit there and bare all day there are many many syatems u could cloaky rat in, with or withought any contact/being part of a big allaiance. If u want to develop/hold space then yah your gonna have to pay/ join some of the big old names that have been fighting for that since they where made.
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Cordin Hamir
Amarr the oNe Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.01 22:18:00 -
[79]
I call shenanigans on this. I am fed up hearing people go on about 'small gang' warfare and 'proviblobs'. The impression given by guys like S21 Duch is that in the 'old days' bold groups of brave individuals went roaming around Providence and Catch looking for tough pvp and the response was always a huge blob of ships. Further this type of individual promulgates a view that Catch/Providence was full of macro-miners trying to mine away in peace and only the brave small gang guys stopped them. I spent two years out that way (other char Arcin Hamir, half pvp/half PoS feeding and ratting) and that is NOT how I recall it. Yes there were small gangs roaming but invariably what they were after were lone individuals that they could 'blob' very quickly or mining ops that they could destroy. The attacking groups were very hard to counter, most were skilled pilots and given they were prepared and fast moving any quick response was likely to be piece meal and likely to be destroyed, equally the fast ships used could easily run straight through small groups or camps (that is of course when they did not just cloak or log off) - thus often the response tended to end up as a large group (proviblob) as the only simple counter. I have no problems with any of this, it was and is a valid tactic usually executed by skilled pilots, but given the intent of the attacking groups was normally to 'blob' (i.e. massively outnumber/outgun) single individuals and then run off they can hardly then complain if others try to outnumber/outgun you! On the mining front any macro miners in that area would have lasted zero time and as the rocks in Catch/Providence are no better than those in empire why would they ever bother?
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Ocih
Amarr The Program Vanguard.
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Posted - 2010.06.02 04:03:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Cordin Hamir I call shenanigans on this. I am fed up hearing people go on about 'small gang' warfare and 'proviblobs'. The impression given by guys like S21 Duch is that in the 'old days' bold groups of brave individuals went roaming around Providence and Catch looking for tough pvp and the response was always a huge blob of ships. Further this type of individual promulgates a view that Catch/Providence was full of macro-miners trying to mine away in peace and only the brave small gang guys stopped them. I spent two years out that way (other char Arcin Hamir, half pvp/half PoS feeding and ratting) and that is NOT how I recall it. Yes there were small gangs roaming but invariably what they were after were lone individuals that they could 'blob' very quickly or mining ops that they could destroy. The attacking groups were very hard to counter, most were skilled pilots and given they were prepared and fast moving any quick response was likely to be piece meal and likely to be destroyed, equally the fast ships used could easily run straight through small groups or camps (that is of course when they did not just cloak or log off) - thus often the response tended to end up as a large group (proviblob) as the only simple counter. I have no problems with any of this, it was and is a valid tactic usually executed by skilled pilots, but given the intent of the attacking groups was normally to 'blob' (i.e. massively outnumber/outgun) single individuals and then run off they can hardly then complain if others try to outnumber/outgun you! On the mining front any macro miners in that area would have lasted zero time and as the rocks in Catch/Providence are no better than those in empire why would they ever bother?
Pretty much and the idea that Dominion made Provi any better is rubbish. Our CVA corp was Sov holder in a system and we had it set up to spawn Plexes. 6/10 Plexes, just more. Thats what Dominion did for Prov.
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