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RedSplat
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.05.26 17:47:00 -
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I'm simply astonished someone thought that the removal of custom folders was a good idea.
What possible benefit does the removal of custom folders have?
Please explain how we are to track the activity and movements of a player with several characters in different alliances and/or corporations effectively without custom folders?
How are we to, at a glance, ascertain whether a particular group of players is active? Do you expect people to trawl through largely unsorted collections of hundreds of contacts?
This is going to hit Mercenaries and Wardec corporations HARD, adds nothing to the game, only subtracts and complicates what is a vital intelligence tool that was available to players.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.26 20:52:00 -
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Yeah, this was incredibly stupid.
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.05.26 20:57:00 -
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Trying to make noise about this before Tyrannis resulted in tears from the fanboiz.
The CSM cannot, and will not be able to help. CCP knew long before deployment this was wilful destruction, and they got CCP PrismX to just troll us instead of listening.
The contact list appears to be a tool for 0.0 space only now, and I doubt it's even any good for that. |
Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari The Phoenix Enclave Astro Lux Aedificatiae
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Posted - 2010.05.26 20:59:00 -
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Why the **** did you remove vital functionality from your UI? Seriously, what the **** were you thinking?
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IHaveNoFace
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Posted - 2010.05.26 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: IHaveNoFace on 26/05/2010 21:06:48 This is even worse than i expected.
Just logged in, all the individuals i set red are in one huge amorphous mass rather than in ordered custom folders denoting corp and known associations.
The new system is counter intuitive and not nearly as informative as the old.
DO.NOT.LIKE
Really. Think of a few choice curse words, i dont think highly of you tonight CCP. This was not needed, this has not improved the game.
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Xenofarion
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Posted - 2010.05.26 21:14:00 -
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THANK YOU. I had all my contacts sorted into "corp" folders. Needless to say the number has grown quite abit over the time.
I can't believe it - still desperately hoping for a secret "enable folder-view" button I just haven't found yet -- those who can, do those who can't, complain |
trenny jr
Order of Celestial Knights Galactic System Lords Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.26 21:18:00 -
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add -10 through 10 standings and im 100% suport
Originally by: Alticius Espionicus Ankhesentapemkah: the Sarah Palin of EVE.
[00:18:49] Lady Spank > /emote squiggles
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Elridon
Hull Tanking Elitists
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Posted - 2010.05.26 21:20:00 -
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Confirming that this lack of folders sucks hard. What were you thinking, CCP? Please give us the old contact list, or at least folders again.
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Concubinia Scarlett
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Posted - 2010.05.26 21:30:00 -
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Finally my lack of friends has an up-side.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.05.26 21:40:00 -
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Yup. That and the ability to increase the per-page display count in EVEGate.
Even with olders, it's not that uncommon to have 30-40 chars in the same group (e.g. one set of war targets), but to then have to page through these 10 at a time is justā GAH! Have fun trying to mass-remove people from your list once they're not longer necessary to have in your contact list: "Select All, Delete, Yesā Select All, Delete, Yesā SeleFFS JUST LET ME NUKE EVERYONE AT ONCE!!"
This is made even worse since there's no way to sort these people into folders.
Yay! I have three different groups of WTs and four alt corps to keep track of, and now we're no longer at war with two of thoseā Sure, I can filter some stuff out, but it's still a matter of doing it 10 at a time, figuring out for each page whether they should go or not, and not being able to mass-zap people who are no longer relevant to keep track of. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
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Carib Devist
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Posted - 2010.05.26 21:51:00 -
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Pol Macsliebh
Minmatar Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2010.05.26 21:55:00 -
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Fix it plz
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Myrkala
Interstellar Empire Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2010.05.26 22:00:00 -
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I agree 100% with OP.
Give us arbitrary contact grouping BACK! -
Thanks CCP, I knew you had it in you! <3 Long live Naglfar! |
Extinctio Sanctitas
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Posted - 2010.05.26 22:01:00 -
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I used to monitor people buying and selling things via contracts by keep them as contacts. It was so nice and tidy. Now they're all just... in my contacts list...
Boo.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari House of Evil
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Posted - 2010.05.26 22:03:00 -
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useless, broken and unworkable current "implementation" is garbage
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ChinaWillGrowLarger
Democratic Peoples Front Liberia for Democracy
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Posted - 2010.05.26 22:14:00 -
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I just manually deleted all standings on this character. I'm not dealing with this mess.
Thankfully i dont need standings to stationtrade.
I have a notebook and a pencil to hand that i use for generating ballpark figures for potential profit etc...
Guess i am now using that to keep track of potential competitors. gg CCP. My Mitnal lies over the ocean My Mitnal lies over the sea My Mitnal lies over the ocean Oh bring back my Mitnal to me |
Quetzalcoatl III
Uroboros Trading Company Taurus Quantum Dynamics
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Posted - 2010.05.26 22:19:00 -
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It doesn't affect me much, but I find its lack disturbing. Also, I recognize the usability of that feature. So, I agree with OP 100%.
However, I really like that expansion! PI just ROCKS. |
Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2010.05.26 23:16:00 -
[18]
Totally retarded. Thanks CCP. |
Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2010.05.26 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: Lubomir Penev on 26/05/2010 23:34:39 Contact in address book before patch: 400+ (past and future targets, neatly ordered in per corp folders). Lets get real, the address book was always used to keep a watch on enemies never to track friends, by 90% of the eve population.
Contact in address book now : 0 (no bug here, I deleted them myself as contacts without ordering attached are completely useless).
Congrats CCP, you've outdone yourself here. I guess in your RL address book the cutie you met in that club while drunk is next to the headhunter that wanted you for a nice job. I hope you won't make any mistake, this could get seriously wrong seriously quick here.
Edited to support, those wonderful forums preview function unchecked it.... -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog |
Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.05.27 00:38:00 -
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They were informed of this being an issue with players and ignored us.
Surely at the very least we should have tags/labels.
Think about it CCP if you had tags then you could make tagclouds. Isn't that the kind of cool "grow the social graph" stuff you're looking for?
You can't invite groups of people to events. There are no groups apart from standings/corp/alliance.
Pure Fail.
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Elyseum
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Posted - 2010.05.27 00:49:00 -
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Anargirou
Focused Fire Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:25:00 -
[22]
agreed
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Cecile Eremitee
Invicta. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:59:00 -
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Edited by: Cecile Eremitee on 27/05/2010 01:59:38 your address book has officially been boot.ini-ed
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Frug
Omega Wing
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:20:00 -
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For the love of god yes.
God damn, CCP. A contact list is improved by the removal of folders? Really? Maybe if I only needed a dozen people on that list, it wouldn't matter. But then nobody would give a crap about the list to begin with.
- - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor |
Vandamsel
Invicta. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:25:00 -
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supported.
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Desparo
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:37:00 -
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We all know CCP is better at nerfing then improving. This is just more proof positive that CCP can't be bothered to fix things and would just rather delete features hoping we don't complain too much.
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.05.27 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jin Nib on 27/05/2010 03:23:54 OMG I'm busy training my alt but now I don't want to log into my main.... This thread is a lie! I just spent last Sunday night organizing all that ****.
This thread is a lie! This thread is a lie! This thread is a lie!
God I hope it's a lie.....
EDIT: God damnit! Supported. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Mynxee
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.27 03:30:00 -
[28]
Sigh, heavy sigh. This is NOT rocket science. Supported with all my heart.
Life In Low Sec |
L3pp3r
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.05.27 05:18:00 -
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Yes this was quite a nice gotcha, please let us have our folders back.
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I'thari
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Posted - 2010.05.27 06:49:00 -
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/me wants
would be also nice to have more than 300 contacts, get slider back and have separate standings for eve-gate... oh well, when was the last time CCP released something finished or something that made any sense? |
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mindblow
mindRek Studios
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Posted - 2010.05.27 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: Xenofarion
I can't believe it - still desperately hoping for a secret "enable folder-view" button I just haven't found yet
Sig removed, lacks EVE related content. And it scared the bejesus out of me - Mitnal
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Saelyre
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Posted - 2010.05.27 07:11:00 -
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A truly ridiculous change. |
MushMush
Minmatar Silent Ninja's Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.05.27 07:15:00 -
[33]
Who at CCP thought this was a good idea?
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Xenofarion
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.27 07:31:00 -
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The best part is that the personal standings override the corp standings in any case as it seems.
Set a corp to terrible/excellent, and only the corp will show up under the specific tab. You've got to set every single member to -/+10.0 for that - what do we have "derived standings" for? Can't we get at least an option to choose whether we want to use personal or derived standings?
I surely won't edit the personal standing of every contact I have after CCP accidentally all my folders
-- those who can, do those who can't, complain |
Tarkian Karbin
THE DISC
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Posted - 2010.05.27 08:22:00 -
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100% supported
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ZaBob
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Posted - 2010.05.27 08:29:00 -
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This is definitely a what-were-you-thinking move.
It is generally a very, very bad idea to discard user hand-entered information like this. You should not be surprised at the vehement reactions; you should have anticipated it.
I'm pretty much a n00b, but even *I* have put significant efforts into organizing contacts into folders. How do you think the people who have been doing it for years feel?
It is, in a word, extremely arrogant. You're telling everyone, "We know how to organize better than you do. You're going to do it our way".
And, you're wrong. Conflating organization with standings is Just Plain Silly.
And -- This isn't just a contacts organizer, it is a tactical monitoring tool. This has direct and immediate impact on gameplay.
Most of the *****ing and moaning I see is overblown -- a matter open to opinion. On this one issue, however, I think you completely failed at understanding users.
There were a lot of deficiencies in the old system. Having standings-based auto-folders would have been a great addition. But this removes EVERY feature of the old system, and gives us something completely unworkable. Even if you were trying to help new users, I think you failed. The new system is rather opaque as to its operation and behavior.
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Amanda Wilkins
Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2010.05.27 08:36:00 -
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Supported!
******
Please support this change to Eve Gate!!! |
Mencor
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Posted - 2010.05.27 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: Mencor on 27/05/2010 08:58:06 supported
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Aylana Emberlust
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Posted - 2010.05.27 09:45:00 -
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Edited by: Aylana Emberlust on 27/05/2010 09:45:36 how do you expect us to use such a feature if you just gonna get rid of our contacts and then burn our folders
i think we should det up a petition guys
BRING BACK OUR folders
I LIKE ORDER YOU GAVE ME CHAOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Supported
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Az'kari
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.05.27 10:12:00 -
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Supported 100%. Contact list without folder = unmanageable mess. |
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Omega Flames
Last Resort Inn SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE
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Posted - 2010.05.27 10:27:00 -
[41]
------------------------- "Forsys > WAR Forsys > HUH Forsys > WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR Harry Sunday > loot Forsys > touchT" |
foksieloy
Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:05:00 -
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_______________________ We come for our people! |
Copsi
Black Tower Syndicate The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:11:00 -
[43]
Supported!
Without tags/labels/folders the current system is quite useless.
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TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:17:00 -
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This will be dealt with...
TeaDaze.net |
TheMean Machine
Quantar Swords
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: ZaBob This is definitely a what-were-you-thinking move.
It is generally a very, very bad idea to discard user hand-entered information like this. You should not be surprised at the vehement reactions; you should have anticipated it.
I'm pretty much a n00b, but even *I* have put significant efforts into organizing contacts into folders. How do you think the people who have been doing it for years feel?
It is, in a word, extremely arrogant. You're telling everyone, "We know how to organize better than you do. You're going to do it our way".
And, you're wrong. Conflating organization with standings is Just Plain Silly.
And -- This isn't just a contacts organizer, it is a tactical monitoring tool. This has direct and immediate impact on gameplay.
Most of the *****ing and moaning I see is overblown -- a matter open to opinion. On this one issue, however, I think you completely failed at understanding users.
There were a lot of deficiencies in the old system. Having standings-based auto-folders would have been a great addition. But this removes EVERY feature of the old system, and gives us something completely unworkable. Even if you were trying to help new users, I think you failed. The new system is rather opaque as to its operation and behavior.
100% agree
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:25:00 -
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DesuSigs - Now with ThreadAssignÖ and SigSelectÖ |
Aylana Emberlust
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Aylana Emberlust on 27/05/2010 11:40:19 Edited by: Aylana Emberlust on 27/05/2010 11:40:06 ok this is the petition put Quote these lines and you name under mine i will send this on to someone of importance to CCP
I herby sign up for folders to be placed back in the in-game contact list in Eve online
names
Aylana emberlust
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ULTImatio
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Posted - 2010.05.27 13:07:00 -
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I guess that hurt, does it āāāā. NEXT TIME support my idea.
I took the job bugging CCP like a mad man for 2 months about this without receiving any support from you all.
You can find several of my posts in the Taranis boards.
NEW: People & Places / Contacts List - NEED'S FOLDERS http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1293555
Author: ULTImatio Replies: 4 Reads: 109 Last Post: by: ULTImatio on: 2010.04.02 07:36:00
Posted - 2010.04.24 06:45:00 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1306296&page=3#78
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:26:00 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1321665&page=5#124
Posted - 2010.05.26 09:32:00 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1321665&page=7#207 |
Trinity Roze
First Flying Wing Inc Primary.
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Posted - 2010.05.27 13:35:00 -
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This new system confuses and infuriates me.
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Ancy Denaries
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Posted - 2010.05.27 13:44:00 -
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Not to mention that if you set a corp standing to blue/red, if you happen to have any of their corpmembers on your list, they are still neut. SUPPORTED! ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog
Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Gereon Valk
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:04:00 -
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Quote: I'm simply astonished someone thought that the removal of custom folders was a good idea.
What possible benefit does the removal of custom folders have?
Please explain how we are to track the activity and movements of a player with several characters in different alliances and/or corporations effectively without custom folders?
How are we to, at a glance, ascertain whether a particular group of players is active? Do you expect people to trawl through largely unsorted collections of hundreds of contacts?
This is going to hit Mercenaries and Wardec corporations HARD, adds nothing to the game, only subtracts and complicates what is a vital intelligence tool that was available to players.
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Nebula Dream
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:15:00 -
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Give us please back the functionality we had - FOLDERS.
Also give us back our folders (it is a result of work / time spent in EVE) as we had it before TYRANNIS. FOLDERS allowed to sort within them alphabetically, which was good. Also each folder was aside its name showing how many chars are in ... or all of them or online (depending on checkbox checked / unchecked).
If my FC asked me how much ppl has our opponent online, and who they are I could act and provide him with intel.
Now I can do "NOTHING", and only thing I can do is to say "I HAVE NO CLUE".
This is not an improvement, this is ... I believe everyone can make a conclusion for himself here. |
Ynot Eyob
Minmatar Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Ynot Eyob on 27/05/2010 14:26:58 I do like the new system, but i dont like you cant group, nore that +10 CONTACS HAS BECOME -10!!!!!
I have about 120+ contacts, what a mess special when i cant even trust the standings. As an alliance CEO contacts are your best tool. I belive until a solution are found an external contact list are the only option as i see it. |
Nalie McFly
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:35:00 -
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Gimme old characterlist or gimme dead
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mkmin
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat Edited by: RedSplat on 26/05/2010 21:28:02 I'm simply astonished someone thought that the removal of custom folders was a good idea.
What possible benefit does the removal of custom folders have?
Please explain how we are to track the activity and movements of a player with several characters in different alliances and/or corporations effectively without custom folders?
How are we to, at a glance, ascertain whether a particular group of players is active? Do you expect people to trawl through largely unsorted collections of hundreds of contacts?
This is going to hit Mercenaries and Wardec corporations HARD, adds nothing to the game, only subtracts and complicates what is a vital intelligence tool that was available to players.
EDIT:
People are now telling me in NPC corp chat that they have just reset all standings, they find the new system so useless they are having to set only a single corp/alliance red at once.
The reasoning behind all this stuff is that CCP was too lazy to fix it before it went live. Too lazy and too greedy. Expansion days get lots of new subs, and CCP is totally willing to ship completely broken, unusable, half-assed crap as long as it means meeting their deadlines and getting more subs. So, instead of extrapolating the new labels system (that will probably vapor away like every other half-assed mechanic they put in the game) from the old folders system, they gave a big 'screw you' to everybody. Effort it would have taken to leave the old system in? None. Effort it would have taken to leave it in until the new labels were in place? None. Effort it would have taken have a popup to notify people to apply the new labels to the old folders? An afternoon's worth of programming, and they already put 1 afternoon into the building the expansion, it would be wrong of us to expect a second.
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oni911b
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:14:00 -
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Everything was already said above
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Rodney Crittendon
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:24:00 -
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I support this.
Thanks, CCP!
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Ankhesentapemkah
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:30:00 -
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A lot of people contacted me in game and this is a serious problem, this needs to be reverted to give players back their folders the way they were.
The cap on contacts is also a huge issue, 300 simply isn't enough!
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Blaun Bongs
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:33:00 -
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Supported 100%. Contact list without folder = unmanageable mess. |
Tronk Drokar
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:34:00 -
[60]
Supported!!! |
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Adana Lightbringer
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:35:00 -
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Edited by: Adana Lightbringer on 27/05/2010 15:41:55 HOW the heck should I now keep track of my war targets? You are VERY funny guys CCP.
Now there is NO difference between my CorpMates in the AdressBook and my WarTargets... they are all the same because they have all neutral standing. But half of them are blinkys and half of them are not... how should I now seperate them?
Next funny thing: What is the difference between "Watch List" and "All Contacts" ? Looks always the same to me...
I like the standings system cause it's easier. But the other changes are crap!
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Der Glatzkopf
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:38:00 -
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I support this. |
Elijah Xtock
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:39:00 -
[63]
Supported!! |
1337sushi
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:40:00 -
[64]
Supported! Gief me back my folders! |
Skilluuhh
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:41:00 -
[65]
Damn, I support this! |
Arken Siew
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:55:00 -
[66]
/signed |
Glafri
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Posted - 2010.05.27 16:41:00 -
[67]
Really CCP, just what where you thinking at the time?
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.05.27 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: ULTImatio Edited by: ULTImatio on 27/05/2010 13:17:53
I guess that hurt, does it āāāā. NEXT TIME support my idea.
Yay you. Good job YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE.
Originally by: ULTImatio
CCP Response Posted - 2010.04.28 08:54:00 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1287882&page=11#316
I've already answered that we plan to do contact folders/labels, but unfortunately that will be after the first release.
This must be not true. How can it be true? The CSM is the uber overriding force in Eve, democratic, powerful, unstoppable, and yet it appears we didn't need it to get CCP to listen... hmmm... I call shenanigans.
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Morar Santee
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Posted - 2010.05.27 17:20:00 -
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Edited by: Morar Santee on 27/05/2010 17:24:57 If there's anything at all the CSM can do to make these concerns heard, it would be highly appreciated. These updates crippled a once very useful tool - and it was being used by so many people, that I can't believe anyone would willfully destroy it.
Edit: Well, that's good to hear, Gavjack Bunk - but it would have been great to have this functionality ready when the patch is released. At least we can voice our concerns and hope that a vague plan becomes a priority. Because this is a real issue for people who are at war a lot.
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Devlyn McKhon
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Posted - 2010.05.27 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: Devlyn McKhon on 27/05/2010 17:23:38 Dam stupid idea, makes the adress book near usless, and from a previous post, sounds like ccp intends to add them back in when they do the labeling, makes me wonder, if there still an intended feature, why they where removed in the first place.
-10 for usibility, thread fully suported, give us the ability to organize the contacts.
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Whipshade
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Posted - 2010.05.27 18:19:00 -
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Estrobo
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Posted - 2010.05.27 19:14:00 -
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WOW, dear CPP you just achieved the highest ******ness award.
Really, what the **** you were thinking about? Did you were doped up when you came up with this ****ed up and ******ed idea to take perfectly fine system and replace it with something as useless as pile of dog ****?
I think everyone should start spamming petitions on daily basis until CCP will get their heads out of theirs asses and fix this!!!
P.S. As you can see from above I'm so impressed that I had to use a lot of French lingo to express my feelings...
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Blithar
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Posted - 2010.05.27 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Blithar on 27/05/2010 19:36:52 Making my first post on eve-o forums to say... I hate your new idea ccp. Bring back the old contacts list. Contacts that go offline still don't update properly, so what was the point?
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Y'lon
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Posted - 2010.05.27 19:44:00 -
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Although I completely agree with the post...I think all this whining is laughable...I bet most of you didn't even look at forums describing this issue when it was in testing, not to mention actually experiencing it on sisi...
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Akacja
Deep Space Scavangers
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Posted - 2010.05.27 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Akacja on 27/05/2010 20:17:08 I'm sure its just a bug.
According to this web site "People and Places" window should look like this: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/People_and_Places
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Uncle Lim
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Posted - 2010.05.27 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Akacja Edited by: Akacja on 27/05/2010 20:17:08 I'm sure its just a bug.
According to this web site "People and Places" window should look like this: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/People_and_Places
Fixed that link for you. Also, that's what the People and Places window looked like two days ago... before Tyrannis. Haven't you used it before?
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Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2010.05.28 00:17:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Akacja Edited by: Akacja on 27/05/2010 20:17:08 I'm sure its just a bug.
According to this web site "People and Places" window should look like this: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/People_and_Places
Outdated documentation? On a CCP official site? Where is the world going.... |
Rita Zechs
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Posted - 2010.05.28 00:18:00 -
[78]
:ccp: |
Xhar Khalagor
Alien Pancake Bonanza
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Posted - 2010.05.28 01:19:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku Why the **** did you remove vital functionality from your UI? Seriously, what the **** were you thinking?
My soulmate
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Dancing Sphere
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Posted - 2010.05.28 10:02:00 -
[80]
/signed. this "BETA" is CRAP.
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Spirulina Laxissima
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Posted - 2010.05.28 11:37:00 -
[81]
My name is Spirulina Laxissima, and I approve this proposal.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2010.05.28 12:39:00 -
[82]
Supported
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Dyvim Slorm
Jazz Associates Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.05.28 13:39:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Dyvim Slorm on 28/05/2010 13:39:42 Supported, I'm amazed how CCP could have got something so wrong. |
The Ultranormal
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Posted - 2010.05.28 14:12:00 -
[84]
"EVE Online: Tyrannis will be deployed on Wednesday, May 26. ... in Tyrannis we are delivering a vastly improved contacts system"
What kind of brainless driveling imbecile must you be to dare put this in writing ?
Ability to remove multiple or all contacts from watchlist at once ? Personal standings over corporation standings ? All -10 set chars are now neutral, but show as -10 when clicked with a corp standing of 0.0 ?
Are you pulling my leg ?
This is beyond stupidity. I demand my money back.
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Detria
XII Legion Southern Connection
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Posted - 2010.05.28 14:31:00 -
[85]
This needs to be dealt with ASAP...
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Viredia Maze
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Posted - 2010.05.28 14:33:00 -
[86]
Fix this please.
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Valix Tar
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Posted - 2010.05.28 14:34:00 -
[87]
/signed
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.05.28 14:47:00 -
[88]
Edited by: James Tritanius on 28/05/2010 14:47:16 please fix!
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GulfXray
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Posted - 2010.05.28 15:49:00 -
[89]
This was a poorly implemented change to say the least as the OP and others have said, the lack of folders all but eliminates are ability to track friends, customers, WarTargets, etc. effectively. Surely this turned up in your useability testing before release.
I struggle understand why leaving the folders was an issue - surely it didn't add any complexity to the source code. Is this just a step towards a grander/better tool than folders?
Regardless, please restore the folder functionality...
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Los Lecrosis
Militant Mermen LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2010.05.28 18:15:00 -
[90]
GIVE US BACK OUR CONTACT FOLDERS NOW!
The fact that this was broken by this patch is completely ridiculous! Was there NO QUALITY CONTROL TESTING?
Also the autopatcher is not working, and I really dont feel I should have to download a 2GB patch yet AGAIN.
CCP, please step up the QC. Quality Control is MORE IMPORTANT THAN ADDING NEW FEATURES! There are countless bugs that have been going on for months and years that are STILL NOT FIXED! I dont want MORE stuff, i just want EVE FIXED!
1. Bring back folders for contacts 2. Fix the increased lag since Apocrypha that is still a problem 3. 300 people in contacts list is WAY TOO FEW! Try 3000! 4. Our POS is shooting at blues. NOT ACCEPTABLE.
/support
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Bfoster
Instant Annihilation Everto Rex Regis
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Posted - 2010.05.28 18:41:00 -
[91]
I WANT MY FOLDERS BACK!!!!
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shackdavid
Crowded Igloo
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Posted - 2010.05.28 19:24:00 -
[92]
we agree
It takes a courageous man, to be a coward in the Red Army.
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Seamus Donohue
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Posted - 2010.05.28 21:44:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Seamus Donohue on 28/05/2010 21:44:35 Proposal supported. Please reinstate the folders for contacts. __________________________________________________ Survivor of Teskanen, fan of John Rourke. |
Hafenbraut
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Posted - 2010.05.28 21:46:00 -
[94]
I'm all with you. The new implementation is basically useless. They might as well have removed it altogether, wouldn't have made such a big difference to what they've done to it.
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Rocktown
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Posted - 2010.05.28 22:23:00 -
[95]
fix it
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mkmin
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Posted - 2010.05.28 23:24:00 -
[96]
They won't do it. It'll go all vaporware on us because CCP cares more about marketing and sales at the expense of reduced functionality. To quote one of the devs in a different thread:
Quote: "We're also looking at expanding the label system to contacts, but have to do a lot more network optimisation and other backend work before that can be brought onto the "under work" table."
So yeah, once they fix every last tiny bit of lag that we can throw at the game, then maybe they'll start thinking about fixing the removal of the contact folders folders screw up. SOL guys, SOL.
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Isidore Tailleur
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.29 07:00:00 -
[97]
Worst expansion eva!
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WolfSchwarzMond
Aberration Of Perdition The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2010.05.29 09:19:00 -
[98]
What are alliances supposed to do ?!?!? We can mark everyone that's an enemy as Red...FIX THIS!!!
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Jack Calypo
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Posted - 2010.05.29 10:21:00 -
[99]
Agree want back folders
Pitty I did not see this post earlier post about folders
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Karnov
Poor Old Ornery nOObs Turdz Asshatz N Grieferz
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Posted - 2010.05.29 10:23:00 -
[100]
If goons are giving you "respect" on CAOD, you pretty much know what you just did was a pile of ****. |
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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
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Posted - 2010.05.29 11:49:00 -
[101]
If you bring folders back, please do it right this time: if I move something to a folder, the only copy of this item should reside in that folder, not in the root and the folder. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager |
Kitty Meow
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Posted - 2010.05.29 15:36:00 -
[102]
Totally agree with the OP.
CCP, please bring back the ability to create folders for our Contact List.
Actually, as things are at the moment, the so called Contact List is now acting simply as a "Standings List"
As such, this makes EveGate, IMO pretty much useless.
EveGate also needs more filtering options, EG :- "Online/Offline/All", (Not simply in the "WatchList", but by a persons ON/OFFline status). There is bound to be other filtering that others can recomend also.
Please CCP, fix the Contacts List.
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Lubica
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Posted - 2010.05.29 21:50:00 -
[103]
FOLDERS!
Want. Back. Now.
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PreZiDenT1
The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.05.29 22:44:00 -
[104]
Fix it.
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Thargan Thegol
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Posted - 2010.05.29 23:05:00 -
[105]
supported. please fix it quick.
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Thenginar Kharnid
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Posted - 2010.05.29 23:09:00 -
[106]
supported. Please fix it so fast as possible.
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Jani Torman
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Posted - 2010.05.29 23:15:00 -
[107]
Gimme back my folders, Please.
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Syl Kougai
Distant Horizons
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Posted - 2010.05.30 00:52:00 -
[108]
Yeah, this new system sucks.
I want my folders and I want them NOW!
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Sevacant
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Posted - 2010.05.30 00:56:00 -
[109]
Supported!!
Bring back the folders!
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Smartest Water
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Posted - 2010.05.30 00:57:00 -
[110]
!!!!!!
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Amator Phasma
Troja Investment Company Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.05.30 00:58:00 -
[111]
---- Fly safe, much profit, and have fun! o/ |
Midnight Marketeer
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Posted - 2010.05.30 01:00:00 -
[112]
Def. needs to be fixed.
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Institute Ofwar
DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.30 01:01:00 -
[113]
have not played much to use it but not having folders is silly. back when i did wars i used them to sort them into corps all the time.
--------------------------- Join "The Institute FanClub" JUST DO IT |
Szayba
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Posted - 2010.05.30 01:11:00 -
[114]
I support the OP wholeheartedly.
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Liberty Prime
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Posted - 2010.05.30 01:44:00 -
[115]
I quite like the new contact system (standings viewable in the address book and notifications for changes), but I am also puzzled about why custom folders were removed. I would support the reinsertion of custom folders for contacts - at the very least for those who are members of the watch list.
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Balbasar
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Posted - 2010.05.30 01:55:00 -
[116]
Need those foldzors
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Forum Alterson
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Posted - 2010.05.30 01:55:00 -
[117]
Support OP
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Apollo428
The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.30 01:56:00 -
[118]
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MCmadcat
Frontier Zoodomie Southern Connection
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Posted - 2010.05.30 01:58:00 -
[119]
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Roastedpot
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.30 03:51:00 -
[120]
i got lost and confused trying to delete old contacts :(
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Syekuda
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Posted - 2010.05.30 04:56:00 -
[121]
I support this. I want my custom folder... well I loved it the way it was before. I love the filter feature though.
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Hue Janus
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Posted - 2010.05.30 09:04:00 -
[122]
Seriously, what were you thinking CCP?
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Ramov Tinoga
Tinoga Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.05.30 10:38:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Ramov Tinoga on 30/05/2010 10:38:27 Seems the patch-folder-settings-delete daemon we know from Apocrypha and Revelations has finally grown up.
Please give us our folders back. Without them, Contacts are barely usable. -----
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Tellnan Matkiel
The Industrial Consortium
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Posted - 2010.05.30 11:10:00 -
[124]
Support ____________ My views are my own |
darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.05.30 11:36:00 -
[125]
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JackdeRipper
Die Imwaldtaetigen Gewalttaetigen
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Posted - 2010.05.30 13:23:00 -
[126]
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MINESVSGANG
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Posted - 2010.05.30 13:24:00 -
[127]
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Husonaut
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Posted - 2010.05.30 13:27:00 -
[128]
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Laura Meer
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Posted - 2010.05.30 13:29:00 -
[129]
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Red665
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:36:00 -
[130]
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Dariah Stardweller
Gung-Ho
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:49:00 -
[131]
Folders back NAO!!!!
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Alex Stokes
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Posted - 2010.05.30 16:37:00 -
[132]
OMG CCP. Plz give me that folders back. I realy need them for my Business
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Kawummicus
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Posted - 2010.05.30 17:29:00 -
[133]
Supported.
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Joshmanus
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Posted - 2010.05.30 22:51:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Joshmanus on 30/05/2010 22:51:24 I support this more than supporting sustainable life!
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Angra Meinyu
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Posted - 2010.05.31 02:37:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Angra Meinyu on 31/05/2010 02:38:25 please give us our folders back. the new contact list is useless...
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Irimit
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Posted - 2010.05.31 03:57:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Irimit on 31/05/2010 03:56:50 Support
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Xantec
The dark fourth Dimension
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Posted - 2010.05.31 05:50:00 -
[137]
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Musashibou Benkei
Combined Imperial Fleet JIHADASQUAD
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Posted - 2010.05.31 06:09:00 -
[138]
supported. what idiot decided that removing custom contact folders was a good idea? and what's with forcing people to set standings for everyone in contacts?
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Njanno
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Posted - 2010.05.31 06:49:00 -
[139]
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Eran Glioksi
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Posted - 2010.05.31 07:12:00 -
[140]
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Raktavija
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:58:00 -
[141]
full support!
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Izo Alabaster
Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company
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Posted - 2010.05.31 09:01:00 -
[142]
Give me back my folders, CCP!
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Jurinak
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Posted - 2010.05.31 09:09:00 -
[143]
the new system sucks, IĶm ****ed about all the "improvements" in this patch, worst Evepatch ever.
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Nera Cassiva
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Posted - 2010.05.31 09:29:00 -
[144]
Supported |
Vuurgh
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Posted - 2010.05.31 10:46:00 -
[145]
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Deladian
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Posted - 2010.05.31 13:10:00 -
[146]
/signed
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Ballanidix
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Posted - 2010.05.31 15:43:00 -
[147]
/signed
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smartshogu
Minmatar Com-Star SOLARIS - SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2010.05.31 19:24:00 -
[148]
i want my folders back And i want it now !!!
give it to me nice and slow
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.01 00:03:00 -
[149]
Totally and completely and VERY LOUDLY supported.
I now have 1300 contacts in one very BIG long useless list... (I've been around awhile...)
Thank you very much... Not.
---
Which brings me to another issue - Anyone got a link for a thread to give support for upping the limit to number of contacts... 300... You have to be kidding... To even make my address book *functional* again I would have to delete 1000+ contacts *one by one*. Not happening...
Link anyone?
BIG Lottery |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2010.06.01 01:41:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Che Biko on 01/06/2010 01:41:19 I'm supporting this to come back, but since CCP has said they are going to do so, or something similar, I mostly support this because they had to remove them first, and I want some place to put my dissapointment.
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Deka Ekato
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Posted - 2010.06.01 06:49:00 -
[151]
Agree. CCP, please bring back a Contacts List and its ability to create folders.
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Kazruw Drol
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Posted - 2010.06.01 07:20:00 -
[152]
CCP should either bring back folders or remove the contact list altogether. In its current form it is totally useless.
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Doktor Icks
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Posted - 2010.06.01 07:22:00 -
[153]
I need folders and subfolders. CCP please fix it!
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bluenzo
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Posted - 2010.06.01 07:28:00 -
[154]
Maybe the new system will help to reduce system wide lag? Mayb you will choose more wisely on who you add to the list. Maybe ccp doesn't want it used as intel as much as it is right now. Just guessing ...
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Athena Tarsis
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2010.06.01 07:35:00 -
[155]
Edited by: Athena Tarsis on 01/06/2010 07:35:27 Wow. Yeah, not only do we need custom folders back, we need a way to make it easier to put people in custom folders. It could get rough moving people into custom folders when you had a large list of contacts -- having a right-click drop-down menu with an 'add to folder...' option there would be superb.
But, removing custom folders? Hello? :(
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BiAir
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Posted - 2010.06.01 07:36:00 -
[156]
I need folders and subfolders tooo!!! CCP please fix this!
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Shanindra
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Posted - 2010.06.01 07:58:00 -
[157]
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Cay Tana
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Posted - 2010.06.01 11:13:00 -
[158]
/signed to te |
Kel Mirage
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Posted - 2010.06.01 11:51:00 -
[159]
this was'nt neccessary... |
Pagefault
Evoke. Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.06.01 12:20:00 -
[160]
I've got 420 titan pilots in my contacts. Then add 300 other friends, chars and connections that you've assembled during all those years. Now tell me how i can sort and find all those. And tell me how i will be able to add some more if the limit sticks to 300.
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift New Eden Research.
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Posted - 2010.06.01 13:53:00 -
[161]
Not much else to add to what everyone else has said. This was a step backwards.
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Lumy
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.01 14:01:00 -
[162]
Screw folders. Server-side tags are way to go!
Joomla! in EVE - IGB compatible CMS. |
Alsyth
Night Warder
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Posted - 2010.06.01 15:18:00 -
[163]
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Mictlantecuhtli
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Posted - 2010.06.01 18:00:00 -
[164]
Supported.
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Vitamin B12
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Posted - 2010.06.01 23:54:00 -
[165]
---
Corporations for Highsec pos anchoring. Only a fee of 75 Million ISK. *click* |
Urichura
Active Fusion Lucky Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.01 23:54:00 -
[166]
Agreed. Bring folders back.
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Gefgarion Askaris
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Posted - 2010.06.02 03:17:00 -
[167]
Supported. This was a less than stellar move on the dev's part.
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Von Vait
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Posted - 2010.06.02 07:30:00 -
[168]
Edited by: Von Vait on 02/06/2010 07:30:07 Supported
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Chiana Moro
Dark Shadow Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.02 08:26:00 -
[169]
/me and my alt both
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Bird OfPrey
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Posted - 2010.06.02 08:35:00 -
[170]
I agree 100% with OP.
Give us arbitrary contact grouping BACK!
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Lazaii
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Posted - 2010.06.02 18:54:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Athena Tarsis Edited by: Athena Tarsis on 01/06/2010 07:35:27 Wow. Yeah, not only do we need custom folders back, we need a way to make it easier to put people in custom folders. It could get rough moving people into custom folders when you had a large list of contacts -- having a right-click drop-down menu with an 'add to folder...' option there would be superb.
But, removing custom folders? Hello? :(
This
&
I need folders and subfolders. CCP please fix it!
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Aeila Goch
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Posted - 2010.06.02 19:51:00 -
[172]
Gives us back folders & unlimited contacts...
Get rid of the various 'waste the customers time features' like 5 mins between posts & sessions that last minutes! |
Matah Hari
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Posted - 2010.06.02 21:00:00 -
[173]
Agreed totally, at least explain why you did it.
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BABARR
PARABELUM-Project
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Posted - 2010.06.02 21:26:00 -
[174]
+1 The new buddie list simply SUCK, no folders ! ...
"Si vis pacem, parabellum" |
Tyd Drakken
PARABELUM-Project
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Posted - 2010.06.02 21:28:00 -
[175]
+1 , just for my noob ceo who need folders for wartarget's buddy!
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Tetsel
Bearn Security Ltd
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Posted - 2010.06.02 21:37:00 -
[176]
+1, supported
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Murdock Antizone
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Posted - 2010.06.02 22:04:00 -
[177]
+1 for folder like the old one
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Ashhtar
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Posted - 2010.06.02 22:13:00 -
[178]
+1 The new buddie list simply no utility
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Dark comet
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Posted - 2010.06.02 22:47:00 -
[179]
+1, CCP don't have better thing to do?
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.06.03 01:03:00 -
[180]
6 paqes?
I wonder who it was that saw the complaints before the patch and decided they knew better then the users.........
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Laedy
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Posted - 2010.06.03 03:27:00 -
[181]
supported
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Nanita Imlae
Original Sin.
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Posted - 2010.06.03 06:25:00 -
[182]
Why did CCP remove it?
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.06.03 09:32:00 -
[183]
This gets my vote as well!
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.06.03 09:54:00 -
[184]
I will sum up my thoughts on the new 'improvements' with a common catch-all word...
PATHETIC ~_~
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Laina Delapore
Red Sun Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.03 10:55:00 -
[185]
Absolute fail.
Now, please listen to your playerbase and fix this.
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Panthera Lynx
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.06.03 11:16:00 -
[186]
Stupid move.
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Humble Epidemic
NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.03 13:52:00 -
[187]
+1 but i also like parts of the new system. But bring back folders :)
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.06.04 01:57:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Lady Spank I will sum up my thoughts on the new 'improvements' with a common catch-all word...
PATHETIC
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vixeyy
Imperial Trade Federation Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.04 05:17:00 -
[189]
Bad move CCP BAD!!! I loved my custom folders thank you >.<
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Xenofarion
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.04 13:36:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Lady Spank I will sum up my thoughts on the new 'improvements' with a common catch-all word...
PATHETIC
You forgot to check "Check here if you want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on" :P
Also lol @ no dev-response yet after 7 pages of 100% support in an about a week old thread
edit: rofl @ starting the 5 Minute timer if the post gets rejected due to "you can't support the same idea more than once" -- those who can, do those who can't, complain |
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0silt
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Posted - 2010.06.04 15:08:00 -
[191]
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Exelles
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Posted - 2010.06.04 15:28:00 -
[192]
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Dark Angel15
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Posted - 2010.06.04 17:47:00 -
[193]
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Tavi Calderon
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Posted - 2010.06.04 19:26:00 -
[194]
The new contact list is a good idea. however i am not very fond of it since i used to be able to create a folder to put people under what i wanted them to be under. for example i had a person that was a direct source of carbon polymers, they were under a folder called carbon polymers seller. this was the only contact i had with this individual and therefore i can't remember whom this person is in my current contacts. it would be beter if you let us do with our Buddie list what we wanted as with the places list. please take this into consideration.
Thanks
Tavi Calderon
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Jose Gali
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Posted - 2010.06.05 10:01:00 -
[195]
I support RedSplat in this matter.
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Neu Bastian
Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2010.06.05 23:43:00 -
[196]
Supported.
Add a right click -> send to folder -> (folder names) bit while you're at it
Quote:
Neu Bastian Valklear Guard - CEO
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Jonathan Yeah
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Posted - 2010.06.06 16:47:00 -
[197]
You need to fix this game breaking nerf and fast CCP. In its current state it is worse than useless.
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Aeton Sol
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Posted - 2010.06.06 17:20:00 -
[198]
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Neutrino Sunset
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse True Reign
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Posted - 2010.06.06 17:50:00 -
[199]
When most software companies go to the trouble of rewriting a piece of functionality the idea is to make it better than the legacy stuff not worse. How can CCP not see the merit of this basic concept?
Give us back the ability to add comments to standings changes too ffs.
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Gladys Pank
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.06.07 15:04:00 -
[200]
Forgot to support this earlier
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Ran Khanon
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.06.07 15:04:00 -
[201]
In case I didn't support this yet. Help us to make parrots game related today! |
InToFace
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Posted - 2010.06.08 21:21:00 -
[202]
+1
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Darkwolf
TOG Empire DRACONIAN COVENANT
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Posted - 2010.06.09 06:40:00 -
[203]
Supported. Bloody stupid idea removing it.
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.06.09 12:20:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Mynxee Sigh, heavy sigh. This is NOT rocket science. Supported with all my heart.
Heart Fail #1
Heart Fail #2
Heart Fail #2b
Please supply excuses as to why with "all your heart" you immediately forgot about this and decided to raise other matters that haven't even made a page of supports yet.
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Turbular Knight
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2010.06.09 12:44:00 -
[205]
Supported! ____________________________________________________________
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Uno Nomesta
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Posted - 2010.06.09 17:04:00 -
[206]
must have
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Delilah Wild
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Posted - 2010.06.09 17:19:00 -
[207]
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Constantine Merlonne
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Posted - 2010.06.10 09:02:00 -
[208]
supported
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localhorse
New Eden Battalion
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Posted - 2010.06.10 20:41:00 -
[209]
More importantly... give us back our folders. A lot of people lost a lot of data when they were removed. Obviously the contacts are still there, but the folders are invaluable meta-data that give meaning and context to the contacts.
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Serinjin Moha
SteamWork
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Posted - 2010.06.11 05:15:00 -
[210]
Maaaaaan! I cannot do my job ;/ I feel completely unorganized without the organized structure we had of being able to sort pilots into different folders. These folders don't just serve to organise corporation pilots but also by common location, fleet adjustment groups etc. etc.
So many new carebear features, no new merc features, and ontop of that the only usefull feature that ALL mercs swear by is removed. I just don't understand. Are we all gonna become peace loving share your loot with me np ppl ? How boring....
The might of an empire, can only be dictated by the wil of it's people |
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Dipluz
Nex Exercitus IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.11 05:53:00 -
[211]
Edited by: Dipluz on 11/06/2010 05:53:12 Give back to us the old system, the new sucks! --------------------------
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Xarhariel
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Posted - 2010.06.11 06:18:00 -
[212]
Can you imagine opening up the Yellow Pages and instead of searching for a plumber by looking it up under a relevant category, you have to find a single number that is under one of 5 categories based on how much you like that business?
I can now experience that every day thanks to Tyrannis.
Can I have my folders back?
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kahhhhhnn
Lovey dovey hug club
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Posted - 2010.06.12 08:04:00 -
[213]
War-decing one corp at a time is fun:(
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.06.12 08:27:00 -
[214]
Watch list is useless, no folders, and all you can see is standing you put on them, not that if they are war targets or not.
Guy who planned these changes did it for something else than EVE game play.
Ghanged made it almost useless, i had to remove all old contacts, checking those one by one did not seem to be proper way to do on time (more than 500), to make it work so that i can add new ones.
another thing is that 300 contacts is not enough, if you want to mark all neurtal remote reppers and scout alts it is just not enough, you can set those for corp but not all chars are in player corporations. If you use neutral scout alt for faction warfare scout you have to set all enemy fw corporations one by one to -standing, and there is more than 300 corporations in fw + neutral remote reppers and scouts.
So now it is impossible to tag those all somehow.
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Daedalus Imperator
Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.06.13 03:49:00 -
[215]
Terrible terrible change. Support this 100%. CCP come on! Stop removing the good things and adding junk!
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Amel Amen
Ammatar Gay Rights League
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Posted - 2010.06.14 11:58:00 -
[216]
+1
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tester schwester
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Posted - 2010.06.14 11:59:00 -
[217]
Contact folders and -10.0 +10.0 standings needed!
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Idari Ito
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Posted - 2010.06.14 11:59:00 -
[218]
+1
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White Don
Brotherhood.
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Posted - 2010.06.14 12:01:00 -
[219]
+1
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Ya Vozilko
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Posted - 2010.06.14 12:02:00 -
[220]
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Lord Vaseline
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Posted - 2010.06.14 12:45:00 -
[221]
+1
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Dimon EG
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Posted - 2010.06.14 12:47:00 -
[222]
+1
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ZeRUS XXI
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Posted - 2010.06.14 12:50:00 -
[223]
+1
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dams2000
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Posted - 2010.06.14 17:07:00 -
[224]
add my voice to say the mew system of buddy list is very bad...
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Maylin Li
interimo
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Posted - 2010.06.15 03:41:00 -
[225]
An awful decision by CCP to release tyrannis without this.
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Joshmanus
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Posted - 2010.06.15 10:57:00 -
[226]
Top pls -.-
Having to go through 20 pages of old contacts instead of having them sorted into folders is stupidly time consuming just to find 1 you want to remove.
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He dares
Silexx
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Posted - 2010.06.15 12:46:00 -
[227]
We need the folders CCP I am ****ed in war without them
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Overdriver
M'8'S
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Posted - 2010.06.16 18:35:00 -
[228]
Supported.
Another related issue is the removal of the transaction logs when you set/change standings. They were an invaluable tool in managing standings. They should be brought back too.
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.06.18 09:27:00 -
[229]
And still sweet FA from the CSM.
They're still pre occupied pushing single page issues rather than this one, despite this
Originally by: Mynxee Sigh, heavy sigh. This is NOT rocket science. Supported with all my heart.
from the first page here. And still no excuse from Mynxee as to explain why "all my heart" means "I don't give a **** actually". -- On planets... nobody can see you macro mining... |
Morar Santee
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Posted - 2010.06.23 00:52:00 -
[230]
Please, please.. had to add some more people to the contact list again, and it's a frigging pain.
Not only that you can't tell who is who anymore without custom folders. The adding process itself is DRIVING ME INSANE. Was only 50 names, but instead of being able to drag/drop them into the standing folders, you have to right-click every single name, set standing for every single name, toggle "add to watchlist" for every single name - instead of being able to make the settings for the folder, then drag/drop names into it.
WHY?!
I'm serious when I'm saying that this is taking the enjoyment out of the game for me. Never felt the need to come to the forums and complain about an expansion before, but this is just bad. If you can't get it to work with EVE gate, freeze the project and give us a working watchlist again, with a proper UI that won't give your customers suicidal tendencies over adding a handful of names.
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Emperor Ryan
Imperial Syndicate Forces Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.23 02:59:00 -
[231]
To the OP you should add that CCP should bring back the old contact limit,which was near endless, now it's 300 contacts top, for a MMO like eve a sandbox game where anyday you can meet a new person you want to keep contact with when you thnk about it 300 is a pretty low limit. CCP stated that less than 1 % of the game would be effected what they dident state was if it was 1% of all accounts exsisting (alts, isk sellers, inactives etc) or if the 1% was just a made up number to get us of their backs. which ever way you look at it. There was no justifyed reason for removing the endless contact limit unless it was the sole cause of lag or something like this, which they stated it was not. - Emperor
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Cypher Shaman
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:26:00 -
[232]
Yes, please, can we have folders back?
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Zykrus
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Posted - 2010.06.25 22:50:00 -
[233]
Dear CCP,
They need to be back as soon as humanly possibly. I used them heavily. It cannot be that hard for CCP to re add them. It is unacceptable not to be able to sort people into custom folders. When I sort people standings do not matter. For example I have folders such as: Friends, Corp, Alts (Folders for my Alts and each of my Friend's Alts), Trade, Transportation, Missions, KOS, Wormholes, Production, etc. I had folders for about each reason there could be. The 5 standing tabs do not do the job. I need to be able to sort MY contacts as I see fit!
I even had folders with just one person in them so I could find them real quick and not have to search through all my contacts.
Thank you for the future reinstatement of Contact Folders, -Zykrus
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Fournone
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Posted - 2010.06.25 23:06:00 -
[234]
Edited by: Fournone on 25/06/2010 23:06:56 Where did my folders go? Oh, CCP deleted them. Good work guys, if someone got a thread 8 pages long in just a month of ppl complaining about not having folders with a (if not extremely close to) 100% agreemeant that they should be back. 2 words to you at CCP, EPIC FAIL.
P.S. +1, supported, and all that jazz
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tilt sedron
M'8'S
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Posted - 2010.06.26 16:40:00 -
[235]
supported
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2010.06.26 17:54:00 -
[236]
I did report the new "fail style" contact list as bug some time ago. I got some answer regarding some change, but I don't even remember. Extended downtime did convince me to delete all my bug reports. What a pity.
Nice try though!
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.06.26 18:04:00 -
[237]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 26/06/2010 18:05:00 I don't use the contacts list much, but I have to agree removing folders was just simply .
Edit: Forgot the tick (again). _
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.06.28 02:28:00 -
[238]
Hello? CCP?
I can't seem to find the DevBlog where you're explaining how so very sorry you are that the contact system was released half finished and how you're rushing to complete the label system?
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Zykrus
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Posted - 2010.06.29 17:39:00 -
[239]
<Bump>
Making sure this stays at the top.
-Zyk
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Arretu
Khanid Guard
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Posted - 2010.06.29 23:53:00 -
[240]
/signed |
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Landrassa
Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company
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Posted - 2010.06.30 21:46:00 -
[241]
Current implementation is absolutely dreadful. Bring back the folders in the name of sanity please. --------------------------------------------------- Recruitment thread |
Wastryll
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Posted - 2010.07.01 03:05:00 -
[242]
please fix this
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.07.01 13:20:00 -
[243]
On the bright side, the CSM managed to achieve a big fat zero asking CCP for the moon on a stick in between having some good old fashioned in fights.
I suppose "folders" isn't sexy enough for any of the current CSM members to feel should be attributed to their name, even if they were to end up as the only CSM member to have got CCP to do a single thing during CSM5.
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Rhok Relztem
CGMA Synergist Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.01 15:03:00 -
[244]
+1
The current system sucks. Give us the folders back.
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Marz Ghola
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2010.07.04 05:33:00 -
[245]
Supported!
Please give the goodness back.
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TheWindCries
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.07 15:12:00 -
[246]
Yeah, support to the topic!
That was a nonsense change, bring back the folders!
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Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.07 15:37:00 -
[247]
It would be nice to organize again so supported.
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llllSeraphimllll
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Posted - 2010.07.07 18:07:00 -
[248]
custom folders were very useful
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Mynxee
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Posted - 2010.07.08 17:12:00 -
[249]
I will raise this issue at Saturday's CSM meeting.
Life In Low Sec |
Griznatle
Advocates of Sin
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Posted - 2010.07.11 06:37:00 -
[250]
like ccp actually listens... oh, on the other hand, did you read my sig?
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Revii Lagoon
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Posted - 2010.07.11 06:47:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Mynxee I will raise this issue at Saturday's CSM meeting.
Good to see the chairman of CSM bringing the issue directly to the devs =)
I also support bringing back custom folders for organizing contacts.
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Cob'n Dai
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Posted - 2010.07.11 11:20:00 -
[252]
Support. The new contactlist is useless. No sorting is possible. Bad choice to remove the old one.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.07.12 00:39:00 -
[253]
Knock Knock, Hello? Anyone here?
I really would have expected this to be rushed out as a fix within 7 days of the first patch.
Why waiting so long for basic missing functionality that was forgotten at release even tho test forum was screaming about it?
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Nofreatuhl
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Posted - 2010.07.12 03:32:00 -
[254]
We need the old folder system back, please.
Supported!
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Overdriver
M'8'S
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Posted - 2010.07.14 11:09:00 -
[255]
I am pleased to see that this issue was brought up at the CSM meeting. Tthe only responses I have seen from CCP on this issue are along the lines of "we might think about looking at this later on" so I do think this is a relevant topic for the CSM to bring up.
However it is a shame that this whole aspect of the game (the address book/contact list) which could for years use some improvement is now only being focused on for "bugfixing" (and EVE Gate).
A label system is greatly needed for both players and corporations, but a few other issues are being overlooked, especially the issue of the transaction log for standings which was removed in Tyrannis as well.
When you set standings to someone you really need to have a way of checking why standing was set and also when it should be removed/changed. The removal of the the transaction log is a great hindrance to the managing of standings. Most CEOs/directors probably would agree with me that it is virtually impossible to remember why standings were set to most entities after just a few weeks. And if someone else in your corporation set standings, you have no way of checking why they did it other than the transaction log.
Another feature that I consider greatly missed is the ability to differentiate whether or not a character placed in your watch list should show up as a login/logout flash in the lower right corner. Often enough you want the ability to check if someone is online or not without having the constant spam-flashing in the lower right corner.
There are probably more ways the existing system could have been improved on and I think it is a shame that this whole area was not only overlooked but virtually removed by CCP during the introduction of EVE Gate. So what I am hoping to see is a signal to CCP that we the players do use and need this functionality (and not just the new Facebook like features) rather than just sending them the signal to fix/re-introduce one specific feature (the folder/label system). But of course the label system is needed.
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De'Vadder
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Posted - 2010.07.14 14:29:00 -
[256]
I approve of this. And why is there still nothing that sets content apart from signature? Is that intentional or technically imposible? |
Auri Hella
Downwind Trading Guild
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Posted - 2010.07.14 14:36:00 -
[257]
Originally by: RedSplat Edited by: RedSplat on 26/05/2010 21:28:02 I'm simply astonished someone thought that the removal of custom folders was a good idea.
I agree completely. Revert this at once.
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BlackHunterCH
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Posted - 2010.07.16 08:04:00 -
[258]
please fix this
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realdognose
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Posted - 2010.07.16 08:57:00 -
[259]
+1
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Chi Quan
Bibkor Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.07.16 11:39:00 -
[260]
---- Ceterum censeo blasters need some tracking love |
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Dullmeyr Prodomo
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Posted - 2010.07.16 20:25:00 -
[261]
gimme back ma folders |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.07.19 11:34:00 -
[262]
Going through the Assembly Hall, supporting awesome ideas.
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xChevalierx
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Posted - 2010.07.24 03:25:00 -
[263]
makes sense.
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klyeme
Soft War Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.07.24 20:08:00 -
[264]
I remember right before tyrannis came out I just added 50+ wartargets to my War Targets folder, woke up in the morning, patched tyrannis, looked for my folder, WTF??? my 45 minutes of sorting turned out to not happen...
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GulfXray
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Posted - 2010.07.24 21:46:00 -
[265]
+1
New system was poorly thought out and obviously not user tested...
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Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2010.08.23 22:13:00 -
[266]
So any news from the CSM? I know, I know, I'm way too optimistic. |
count sporkula
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Posted - 2010.09.09 00:16:00 -
[267]
yes
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Purgo
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Posted - 2010.09.14 14:33:00 -
[268]
I have never posted on the forums in the 4 years I've played this game.
I recently came back to it after a 6 month break. This is the most perplexing change and step back I have ever seen of a fuctionality of the UI take. This makes non sense why they would remove it. On top of that I cant even find documentation stated by ccp why this was even a good idea besides the change over to eve gate bull****. Its been what now? 2 going on 3 months of this BS?
tl;dr THIS IS IS ****ING ******ED.
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Yuseff Ke'Shark
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Posted - 2010.09.17 03:16:00 -
[269]
+1 Folders are good, a working watch list would be better. Not one that still tells us someone is online 8 hours after they logged
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2010.09.17 20:36:00 -
[270]
As mentioned in the CSM devblog, this issue will be addressed in the Winter Expansion.
Confessions of a Noob Starship Politician The most expensive free trip to Iceland you'll ever win!
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Rhok Relztem
Caldari CGMA Synergist Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.18 23:29:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow As mentioned in the CSM devblog, this issue will be addressed in the Winter Expansion.
Ummm, Trebor, where exactly is this mentioned? I've read that blog twice and didn't see this issue brought up anywhere.
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.09.18 23:40:00 -
[272]
Yeah, nice improvement to the contacts folder with Tyrannis.
Oh wait...it sucks now.
Originally by: CCP Navigator This thread is so bad that even locking it does not do it justice.
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ImmaSplodeYou
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Posted - 2010.09.18 23:50:00 -
[273]
It looks more web 2.0 now but it's dire, please roll it back and dock the pay of everyone who worked on it and the guy who pitched it. In fact, fine him a large sum of money and use it to pay the other devs for the overtime they need to get the other issues sorted
Also preferably hang the guy who pitched the "improved" contacts list
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.09.25 01:37:00 -
[274]
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 25/09/2010 01:46:01
Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou It looks more web 2.0 now but it's dire, please roll it back and dock the pay of everyone who worked on it and the guy who pitched it. In fact, fine him a large sum of money and use it to pay the other devs for the overtime they need to get the other issues sorted
Also preferably hang the guy who pitched the "improved" contacts list
Amazing isn't it.... It's like that department is run by someone that can talk bull**** really well. His fanfest video showed his ability to ignore the outside would and dictate his unique view.
How he managed to convince them to go in the complete wrong direction, and then managed to ignore everyone when they pointed at the glaring mistakes...... and is still employed..... That guys got it made!
Actually the funniest part is how when deciding on the 300 limit they did an SQL query to tell them, "How many players have over 300 contacts?" and found that "This will only effect 1% of players".
They then decided that 1% with over 300 contacts was inconsequential and those 1% wouldn't matter.
Did they not also read the 1% rule when they were looking into social networks? 1% are the content creators, the hubs, these people with their large contact were key.
Now with contacts mattering so little and no one needing very many of them, surely no one needs to categoise their contacts. It's almost ******ed thinking.
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Haiden Po
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Posted - 2010.09.28 12:20:00 -
[275]
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Krollin
Bi'Atch Inc Warsmiths.
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Posted - 2010.10.27 13:27:00 -
[276]
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Aphrodite Skripalle
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2010.10.27 14:42:00 -
[277]
/me supported
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Rickhart
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Posted - 2010.10.27 14:50:00 -
[278]
supported
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2010.10.27 15:06:00 -
[279]
Ignore me
Drone Guide EON 21 & 22 |
BABARR
PARABELUM-Project Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.10.30 01:44:00 -
[280]
Edited by: BABARR on 30/10/2010 01:47:30 It seem CCP are not able to create folder.... No dev read ? Move ! ...
"Si vis pacem, parabellum" |
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Reddx Panther
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Posted - 2010.10.30 18:34:00 -
[281]
Can't believe that the current contact management made it past any kind of review. FFS OF COURSE you want to put them into categories, AT LEAST i want to tag a contact entry with some information, like 'changed to red because it's XYZs repping alt'.
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Marak Mocam
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Posted - 2010.10.31 09:56:00 -
[282]
I think the removal was part of their UI cleanup stuff and they intend to put it back in but, either way, I agree -- this should be usable vs how it is now.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.11.02 02:04:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Marak Mocam I think the removal was part of their UI cleanup stuff and they intend to put it back in but, either way, I agree -- this should be usable vs how it is now.
Nah it's just the team that worked on all that stuff think they are too cool for school.
Afterall they did an SQL query that showed only 1% of players have over 300 "contacts". So it was ok to kick them in the balls. They forgot that 1% are the hub people, the content creators.
So funny watching them try to push a social network website while breaking the very network of contacts people had already created.
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Valthax Kelkore
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Posted - 2010.11.02 17:02:00 -
[284]
+1
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