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Kal Murmur
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Posted - 2010.06.02 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Thirzarr Personally, I'd like to see some way for a factions militia to turn "low sec" systems into something concord isn't too chicken to patrol, also. Might actually end up breaking the static borders between and around empire space a little, and actually give them "peasants" aka "carebears" a good reason to support their militia. ;) Just a thought
Originally by: Malkanis As long as militias can also turn opposed hi-sec in to lo-sec (this would give "carebears" a REALLY big incentive, no?) then that sounds pretty good.
If your war can't change the map, what good is it?
These ideas make me have happy thoughts.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.06.02 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: Reptail This galaxy has reached its limit, i suggest ccp to add another galaxy reachable by ultra stargates.
Come to lowsec. Its a ghost town out here.
Probably because there's so little to have worth the effort there.
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Dravius Luxor
Minmatar Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.06.02 16:55:00 -
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Calm down OP, your idea is good, (but not perfect)... in my opinion Eve should be at least three times its current size. A lot of people just like to come to these forums to vent their frustrations, angst etc upon anyone who doesn't agree with the opinion-of-the-month.
Most of the people who frequent these forums don't even play the game, and those who do only account for the tiniest percentage of the players on TQ.
The fact is - Eve could never be too big. It's a space game, set within a small galaxy / star cluster, and you currently pay for living out in the middle of nowhere by having to undertake arduous, perilous journeys, I see no problem with this. Want to live hundreds of light years from everyone else? Fine, but you'll have insane travel times. Ok says I.
The fact is, Eve is very much overcrowded, despite what certain forum-dwellers may think. Space, particularly 0.0 and to a lesser extent lowsec, should be completely desolate. I thought wh-space would be like that, but it is home to every man and his dog. Eve was MUCH more fun when it was near empty - gone are the days when you'd actually say hello to the people you passed by in local.
No offence though, but I don't entirely agree with your idea of another galaxy - I think this one just needs to be a lot bigger, and less "linear". If I were to design the Eve cluster, it would be a great swathe of 0.0, with randomly-sized pockets of low and highsec to serve as trade hubs scattered about. As someone else pointed out earlier, if you want to wander alone through 0.0 that's simple, but good luck making the first jump.
I challenge anyone to find more than 3 systems in the entire galaxy that have not seen ratting in the last 24 hours.
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Simeon Tor
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Posted - 2010.06.02 17:02:00 -
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Just a small nitpick but I thought that the space we have in Eve now is just a small cluster of stars within a galaxy? Because if this is the whole galaxy it's a pretty small one.
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Bosquu
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Posted - 2010.06.02 17:06:00 -
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There's enough space for there to only be 6 online people in each system. if Jita has 1k+, rens has 200-300ish, and mission hubs have 20-100, then there must be hundreds of empty systems. I'm sure you can find one.
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Donatien de'Sade
Ars Notoria
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Posted - 2010.06.02 17:18:00 -
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Add several more regions - but with no gates - reachable by jump drive (new type (no need for cyno)) only (so, multiple jumps to get to far away systems etc). Sort of like wormhole space, but not ----------------------------------------------------------- In the beginning the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move |
Simeon Tor
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Posted - 2010.06.02 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Simeon Tor on 02/06/2010 18:30:15 Edited by: Simeon Tor on 02/06/2010 18:30:01 I actually like that idea. Though I have a history of liking bad ideas, so I don't know what to think /O\
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Ryhss
Caldari Victory Fleet Systems C.H.A.L.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2010.06.02 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Korenti Rels
Originally by: Reptail This galaxy has reached its limit, i suggest ccp to add another galaxy reachable by ultra stargates.
That's exactly what they did about 14 months ago.
Wormholes?
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eliminator2
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.02 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Reptail
Originally by: Aralieus Eve is bigger than mission and trade hubs in empire. I can travel thru some parts of 0.0 and not see a soul for hours.
Lol so are you saying i stay only high sec? bwaha watch out guys, mrs 0.0 above here has spoken \0000000000/ Yes, sorry this is a stupid idea, don't add new space! Trying to be constructive in EvE is a crime. Destroy, war!, blow **** up! Hmm. ok, see ya around, Reptail! X!
eve isnt overcrowded low-sec isnt that full its empire that has to many pple 0.0 and low-sec dont have enbough pple :p -----------------------------------------------
I met Eliminator1..... I chewed it up, and spat it out. Now, he is my minion.
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Hyperforce99
Gallente GoldTech Mischievous Industrial Logistics Ltd.
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Posted - 2010.06.02 18:54:00 -
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I'd like to see something like this happen someday, but in such a way that you CAN reach it through 0.0.
Perhaps something like a second high-sec region reachable only by an area or multiple areas of 0.0
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Reptail
Caldari Cool Rampage Amongst Zeus 1
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Posted - 2010.06.03 00:36:00 -
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You want to be successful in eve? Be as harsh as you can to your enemies.
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Ioci
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.03 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Donatien de'Sade Add several more regions - but with no gates - reachable by jump drive (new type (no need for cyno)) only (so, multiple jumps to get to far away systems etc). Sort of like wormhole space, but not
Black Ops BS could be made to do this. Mind you everyone and thier dog would be heading for CCP alliance space. That way they can enjoy being cloaked camped 23/7 like any other alliance. |
Catori Fala
Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.03 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Hyperforce99 I'd like to see something like this happen someday, but in such a way that you CAN reach it through 0.0.
Perhaps something like a second high-sec region reachable only by an area or multiple areas of 0.0
Having it only accessible via wspace would be interesting, if you make it via nullsec it would give too much control to alliances.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.03 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Bosquu There's enough space for there to only be 6 online people in each system. if Jita has 1k+, rens has 200-300ish, and mission hubs have 20-100, then there must be hundreds of empty systems. I'm sure you can find one.
Exactly, with 50K people on line there is an average of about 6 player in each system, included all of WH space, more than what a undeveloped 0.0 system can support and so on.
"Maybe" OP is not wrong?
Just to add a bit of math: 20 mission hubs (I think they are fewer, but let's abound) with 200 players make that 4.000 players, the average in all other systems is still around 6 player in each system.
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Brusanan
Beware of Carp General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.03 06:27:00 -
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Eve is an MMO. The devs do not need to add more systems just so you can have your own little system all to yourself. ______
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dankness420
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Posted - 2010.06.03 06:43:00 -
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CCP added the drone regions AND wormspace... there are plenty of systems out there.
If you want one... well you have to go and take it!
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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2010.06.03 06:47:00 -
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It's not that the galaxy is too small, it's just that traversing it is too easy.
Solution: nerf travel.
/Ben
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Natalie Caladan
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2010.06.03 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Hyperforce99 Perhaps something like a second high-sec region reachable only by an area or multiple areas of 0.0
That would actually be a nice idea. Preferably lowsec in between because as is said, an alliance controlling the 0.0 systems in between may be way powerful.
It would be a much better incentive for highsec players to go to/through lowsec than missions sending you there.
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Medytujacy w'Jita
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Posted - 2010.06.03 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: Reptail This galaxy has reached its limit, i suggest ccp to add another galaxy reachable by ultra stargates.
Come to lowsec. Its a ghost town out here.
+1 Some lowsec systems are totaly empty, just chek statistik while you have open map in game, ship kiled last 24hour or average pilot in space in the last 30 min...New Eden is to big imo...CCP still have to boost low sec to push people deeper form safe systems, here is no profit depend player risk, so wery low quanti of new visit
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.06.03 07:29:00 -
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A caldari-amarr research team manages to open the Eve Gate. Nothing bigger than a frigate can go through, and it's a one-way trip. The gate dumps you in to a random point in a seemingly empty system. Your star map shows nothing. There is no local channel. There is no market. After a long time scanning, you find a jump gate, but when you try to use it, you get an advisory saying that it is damaged, offline and missing several key components. You bookmark the gate and resume scanning in the hope of finding them, and eventually discover the wreckage of what looks like an old ship maintenance yard....
Add more space by all means, but dont just add more of the same of what we already have. Add new types of space, with different conditions, limitations and opportunities. The "Open the EVE gate" example scenario I outlined above would sharply restrict players from leveraging their existing assets - all you have is your frigate, your skills and your brain an a region of space that doesn't even have gates on the overview.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
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Caldari 5
Amarr The Element Syndicate Hand That Feeds
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Posted - 2010.06.03 08:00:00 -
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What I would like to see is a Ring of LS on the other side of 0.0 and some HS pockets outside that, Think similar to a Archery Target concentric rings of space.
Bulls Eye = Current HS 1st Ring = Current LS 2nd Ring = Current 0.0 3rd Ring = New LS 4th Ring(cut into segments by the border) = New HS
It would be interesting to see the trader paths across the LS/0.0 between the HS Areas :P
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Reptail
Caldari Cool Rampage Amongst Zeus 1
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Posted - 2010.06.03 10:19:00 -
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Edited by: Reptail on 03/06/2010 10:19:50 Cool Rampage certified news discoverd a new dwarf galaxy near us New-Gal They are actually studing a way to reach it and planning to go further deep inside the universe anytime soon since, they are tired of just new eden and want to exlpore more. :) Who knows what kind of aliens they 'll find around ?
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.06.03 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Caldari 5 What I would like to see is a Ring of LS on the other side of 0.0 and some HS pockets outside that, Think similar to a Archery Target concentric rings of space.
Bulls Eye = Current HS 1st Ring = Current LS 2nd Ring = Current 0.0 3rd Ring = New LS 4th Ring(cut into segments by the border) = New HS
It would be interesting to see the trader paths across the LS/0.0 between the HS Areas :P
Heard this very idea once before, rather like it.
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Pennwisedom
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2010.06.03 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Caldari 5 What I would like to see is a Ring of LS on the other side of 0.0 and some HS pockets outside that, Think similar to a Archery Target concentric rings of space.
Bulls Eye = Current HS 1st Ring = Current LS 2nd Ring = Current 0.0 3rd Ring = New LS 4th Ring(cut into segments by the border) = New HS
It would be interesting to see the trader paths across the LS/0.0 between the HS Areas :P
Heard this very idea once before, rather like it.
Aside from the fact that it doesn't make much sense, it'll be cool until five minutes in when the whines about 0.0 alliances controlling this new highsec start.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.03 17:22:00 -
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Nah it would probably just stay empty and useless, unless it really offers something current high sec doesnt, and current high sec keeps offering stuff new high sec doesnt. But then the trade between the two parts will just consist of jump freighters.
Protip btw: There are already islands of high sec in low sec, they are usually pretty much deserted.
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sue denim
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Posted - 2010.06.03 17:27:00 -
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eve largely is empty because the systems suck :| especially nulsec, I don't know what CCP expected by adding the sov upgrades but it definitely didn't live up to the professed dreams of populating the crappy .0 systems. It helped pack in a few more people, but hundreds per space? No.
Lack of upgrading static belts, largely under-performing and terribly nerfed industry upgrades hurts anyone who wants to go setup a system to mine in, so pretty much it's just people who want to ***** sanctums all day.
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Caldari 5
Amarr The Element Syndicate Hand That Feeds
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Posted - 2010.06.04 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pennwisedom
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Caldari 5 What I would like to see is a Ring of LS on the other side of 0.0 and some HS pockets outside that, Think similar to a Archery Target concentric rings of space.
Bulls Eye = Current HS 1st Ring = Current LS 2nd Ring = Current 0.0 3rd Ring = New LS 4th Ring(cut into segments by the border) = New HS
It would be interesting to see the trader paths across the LS/0.0 between the HS Areas :P
Heard this very idea once before, rather like it.
Aside from the fact that it doesn't make much sense, it'll be cool until five minutes in when the whines about 0.0 alliances controlling this new highsec start.
Actually it makes perfect sense, think about historically the UK/French/Etc Colonisation of the US, Think about current HS as the Original Countries (UK/French/Etc) the lawless space wild frontier/west, with the 0.0 being the areas controlled by Marshals voted on by the people, and the new HS as being the new cities that were established by the governments.
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Krimishkev
Out of Order Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.06.04 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Morgs44 Have you flown through low sec and 0.0...? Try it some time
Come in groups of 25 or less though or the nodes will crash.
i lol'd
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