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bukchoi
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Posted - 2010.06.03 19:55:00 -
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hi, i'm looking for a hulk fit that will solo tank 0.0 rats (angels), i've been looking through battle-clinics and came up with
1 gist/pith A small shield boost 1 gist explosive shield 1 gist kinetic shield cap recharger
then 2x MLU II to increase yield
im not sure what to put into rigs, i know i dont need cargohold opti since ill be jetcan mining. any idea?
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Stick Cult
Unspoken Autonomy.
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Posted - 2010.06.03 20:01:00 -
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I'd recommend CCC rigs. That fit sounds about right, though if you go with a named cap recharger you should be able to go with named shield hardeners as well to save on some money...
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad.
Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.06.03 20:05:00 -
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The easiest way to tank 0.0 rats is to find a belt that has a frigate or cruiser spawn and kill everything except for one ship. Then all you have to do is tank one rat until the other ships respawn as no new spawns with other ships will come to the belt until the current one is dead.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Originally by: Marchocias + = +
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bukchoi
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Posted - 2010.06.03 20:15:00 -
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Edited by: bukchoi on 03/06/2010 20:26:06 the money is not a big issue, those hardeners come about 20 mill each, and shield booster bout 60 mill ccc is a good input, i will consider it if it doesnt run cap stable.
but i was looking for shield purger rigs or recharge rigs, im not an expert on shield tanking so need help with that.
good idea zeba, ill def give that a try
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Stick Cult
Unspoken Autonomy.
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Posted - 2010.06.03 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: bukchoi Edited by: bukchoi on 03/06/2010 20:26:06 the money is not a big issue, those hardeners come about 20 mill each, and shield booster bout 60 mill ccc is a good input, i will consider it if it doesnt run cap stable.
but i was looking for shield purger rigs or recharge rigs, im not an expert on shield tanking so need help with that.
good idea zeba, ill def give that a try
holy **** since when are the boosters 60 mil.. I'll have to go check that out.. if you're right I've got some new toys :D
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad.
Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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bukchoi
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Posted - 2010.06.03 20:39:00 -
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nvm wrong intel, guy in alliance lied to me lol they're 500 mill ill stick with gist a
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.03 22:37:00 -
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3x Mod strip miner II's 1 Mag scattering amp 1 1 heat dissipation amp 1 1 gisti b-type small shield booster 1 survey scanner 1
2 mining laser upgrade II's
1 medium core defense operational solidafier 1 medium Anti-EM screen reinforcer 1
5x hob II's
works perfectly in 0.0 plex mining. Can change hobs for repair bots too.
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Ka choop
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Posted - 2010.06.03 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zill 3x Mod strip miner II's 1 Mag scattering amp 1 1 heat dissipation amp 1 1 gisti b-type small shield booster 1 survey scanner 1
2 mining laser upgrade II's
1 medium core defense operational solidafier 1 medium Anti-EM screen reinforcer 1
5x hob II's
works perfectly in 0.0 plex mining. Can change hobs for repair bots too.
Angels shoot over 80% explosive damage, the kinetic part of their damage is almost negligible : better to go with an explosive resist and a generic resist. I like active hardeners more then passive and it is possible to make a hulk capstable with all mods running. Against angels you use Warriors and not Hobgoblins.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.04 02:46:00 -
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I know that mate, it's pretty obvious if hes in catch or wherever, then he would change rigs to suit.
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Darthewok
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.06.04 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Darthewok on 04/06/2010 06:26:14 enjoy. [Hulk, Grocery Cart] Expanded Cargohold II Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Pithi C-Type Small Shield Booster Pithi C-Type Small Shield Booster Invulnerability Field II Cap Recharger II
Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II, Arkonor Mining Crystal II Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II, Arkonor Mining Crystal II Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II, Arkonor Mining Crystal II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Mining Drone I x5
switch expanded cargohold to MLU or something else if you are not mining to cargo. however, i found having a few of these cargohulks makes more yield than some hulks some haulers.
edit: switch expanded cargohold to cap power relay and cap recharger to shield hardener if you want a ridiculous uber tank.
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CyrusRO
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Posted - 2010.06.04 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: Darthewok enjoy. [Hulk, Grocery Cart] Expanded Cargohold II Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Pithi C-Type Small Shield Booster Pithi C-Type Small Shield Booster Invulnerability Field II Cap Recharger II
Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II, Arkonor Mining Crystal II Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II, Arkonor Mining Crystal II Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II, Arkonor Mining Crystal II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Mining Drone I x5
switch expanded cargohold to MLU or something else if you are not mining to cargo. however, i found having a few of these cargohulks makes more yield than some hulks some haulers.
just lol...he said he will be jeting the cans ...you failfitt isn`t for null sec mining dude...he`s fitt is ok i have the same fitt and i can tank even 2x BS with 5 rr drones boosting me... use expl/kin ressistance rigs (t2 if u can afford them) and u`ll be ok ))
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Darthewok
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.06.04 06:29:00 -
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i mined 5 BILLION worth of ABC with it in 0.0 so whatever.. so enjoy overspending ridiculous amounts for your gisti A fits when this fit costs 1/3 and does just fine.
if you don't want a cargohulk switch the expanded cargohold to a cap power relay and the cap recharger to another invul field.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.06.04 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba The easiest way to tank 0.0 rats is to find a belt that has a frigate or cruiser spawn and kill everything except for one ship. Then all you have to do is tank one rat until the other ships respawn as no new spawns with other ships will come to the belt until the current one is dead.
Actually, it can be easier to tank battleships. Much of the Hulk's tank comes from it's small sig radius - a BC spawn can be much more deadly than a BS spawn.
Additionally with the right BS spawn and good drone skills, you can farm the spawn while you mine. This works really well if there are 2-3 hulks working together - 10 T2 medium drones will dispatch any rat BS in short order. Doing this can increase your ISK/hr quite nicely, and add some nice rat loot and salvage to the hauler's load.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.06.04 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Zeba The easiest way to tank 0.0 rats is to find a belt that has a frigate or cruiser spawn and kill everything except for one ship. Then all you have to do is tank one rat until the other ships respawn as no new spawns with other ships will come to the belt until the current one is dead.
Actually, it can be easier to tank battleships. Much of the Hulk's tank comes from it's small sig radius - a BC spawn can be much more deadly than a BS spawn.
Additionally with the right BS spawn and good drone skills, you can farm the spawn while you mine. This works really well if there are 2-3 hulks working together - 10 T2 medium drones will dispatch any rat BS in short order. Doing this can increase your ISK/hr quite nicely, and add some nice rat loot and salvage to the hauler's load.
Which is why I recommended he look for a frigate or cruiser spawn. But yes your advice is sound too.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Originally by: Marchocias + = +
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Dirty Water
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Posted - 2010.06.04 23:49:00 -
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If you want to mine, this is the Bible. http://www.lsjv-eve.com/guide/
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bukchoi
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Posted - 2010.06.05 04:37:00 -
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Edited by: bukchoi on 05/06/2010 04:40:49 Edited by: bukchoi on 05/06/2010 04:37:55
Originally by: Dirty Water If you want to mine, this is the Bible. http://www.lsjv-eve.com/guide/
ive read that guide, it recommanded that fit, its where i got the idea. thanks for all the input guys currently i have
pith c shield booster gist b explosive shield gist b kinetic shield survey scanner II (im anal about picking roids)
MLU II Cap Power Relay II
Rigs: core defence field extender I core defence opeational solidiier I
i have considered the complete miner guides set up, which is 2x MLU I's and with cap recharger in the mid slot, but with cap power relay it does the same job at 1% difference. gist a is 57 boost pith is 55, but for some reason gists are 350m and piths are 50, so i'll stick with pithi, spending 100m on hulk is reasonable imo, unless this will not tank.
i chose those 2 rigs to give me best shield boost strength in eft, im not a shield tanking expert, so anything better let me know.
no need to fuss over the small details such as cargo, i know why people use them and all, with this setup it gives me 37/50/85/85 with about 108 shield boost accord to eft, cap stable.
please let me know if this setup will survive the toughest of spawns. i have good t2 drone skills, so 5 valks II's out should kill them overtime.
1. is having pithi c x 2 booster necessary to tank or having more res better? 2. are my resists enough for angels (i know their dmg types), or should i replace tanking rigs with dmg res instead)
im looking for the optimal fit, nothing overkill, not gonna tank pirates, just rats.
thanks guys!
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.05 07:15:00 -
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dont know bout these other fits, but for me personally, mine tansk TS overlords with no stress at all. You cant tank pirates so dont bother trying :)... if your still there when reds jump in, your already dead.
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Ka choop
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Posted - 2010.06.05 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: bukchoi im looking for the optimal fit, nothing overkill, not gonna tank pirates, just rats.
thanks guys!
Drop the kinetic for an omni. While it says tyhat angels do both explosive and kinetic damage, the explosive part is much much much larger then the kinetic part, up to the extent that an omni resist will lower you damage more the a kinetic resist because the omni works on both kinetic and explosive (and ofc em and thermal).
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Darthewok
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.06.05 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: bukchoi
1. is having pithi c x 2 booster necessary to tank or having more res better? 2. are my resists enough for angels (i know their dmg types), or should i replace tanking rigs with dmg res instead)
the reason why everyone is using the same gist A fit is because halada's guide recommends it. it works but is really really really overpriced. actually it is quite shocking to me how for years upon years 0.0 miners are using such an exorbitantly expensive fit, never even considering there are far more value for money fits possible with 2 shield boosters. just do your calculation how many hours you have to mine to make back the cost!
i lived off the grocery cart fit for months, mining billions in ABC amid Angel spawns with no tanking help so i know it works. of course you need great engineering skills. i wish you success with 1 shield booster and resist fits, but i doubt they are sufficient for tough angel spawns. 2 shield boosters FTW. if you still can't get enough tank from the grocery cart fit, switch a cap recharger to invul field/resist and the expanded cargohold to a cap power relay.
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