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Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.10 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 10/06/2010 16:26:35
Originally by: Merdaneth Is Ushra'Khan now effectively NRDS everywhere but in the ZQ2-CF constellation?
That, the Amarr Empire and Catch.
Our stations are now open to neutrals in Providence (with the exception of those in the ZQ2-CF constellation as previously stated).
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Darth Sith
Genbuku. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.10 18:22:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Chereadenine Zakalwe Providence will burn...
[WTS] T2 X-Large Match with color co-ordinated carry bag. Free to anyone with the ballz to use it ...
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.10 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Matsumoto Yo****u To all those planning to visit providence; it was never U'K you had to worry about....
Since you've promised your allies, CVA, that you will observe NRDS, I'm sure they have nothing to worry about with regards to your alliance. ----------
~bitter dog~
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Xenea
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.11 04:28:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Black Necris we come for our Proletariat
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Dallenn
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.06.14 13:44:00 -
[35]
A wise choice that has the best interests of the region in mind. The door is now open for prosperous commerce in the area.
My best wishes go with you, as always
The True Knowledge of the Star Fraction |
5kyscreamx
Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.14 14:24:00 -
[36]
great news my guns grow tired of shooting the same CTA fodder over and over again.
hydra will provail =====
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Myxx
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.14 15:15:00 -
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what about those of us who are agnostic to borders and either are just traders, or are helping against the sansha incursions, collectively?
are we targets, too? even if we dont support the idea of slavery?
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Ranis Garr
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.14 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ranis Garr on 14/06/2010 18:03:29
Originally by: Myxx what about those of us who are agnostic to borders and either are just traders, or are helping against the sansha incursions, collectively?
are we targets, too? even if we dont support the idea of slavery?
To the UK, of course you are. UK have no reason and are tunnel visioned into their "Poor Me" mentality that leads them to believe that they were so injured by the CVA.
UK is nothing more than a regional thug that disguises itself by wearing a suit and engaging in regional politics.
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SpotlessBlade
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Posted - 2010.06.14 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ranis Garr
To the UK, of course you are. UK have no reason and are tunnel visioned into their "Poor Me" mentality that leads them to believe that they were so injured by the CVA.
UK is nothing more than a regional thug that disguises itself by wearing a suit and engaging in regional politics.
U Mad? Because you sound mad...
We Come For Our People
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Ugleb
Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.18 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Myxx what about those of us who are agnostic to borders and either are just traders, or are helping against the sansha incursions, collectively?
are we targets, too? even if we dont support the idea of slavery?
Agnostic to borders? There's an attitude liable to get you shot.
If you enter a free fire zone without blue standings to our pilots, the assumption is made that you are a threat to our mission and a valid target.
The importance lies in whom you chose to trade with, if you are operating in the Amarr Empire then you are feeding its economy and quite possibly supplying our enemy, directly or indirectly.
If you have entered Providence to hunt the Sansha, simply steer clear of the ZQ2-CF constellation and our pilots will leave you alone.
The Journal; Walking The Road To Liberation |
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Eran Mintor
Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: Eran Mintor on 23/06/2010 21:48:19
Originally by: Ugleb
Originally by: Myxx what about those of us who are agnostic to borders and either are just traders, or are helping against the sansha incursions, collectively?
are we targets, too? even if we dont support the idea of slavery?
Agnostic to borders? There's an attitude liable to get you shot.
If you enter a free fire zone without blue standings to our pilots, the assumption is made that you are a threat to our mission and a valid target.
The importance lies in whom you chose to trade with, if you are operating in the Amarr Empire then you are feeding its economy and quite possibly supplying our enemy, directly or indirectly.
Or perhaps you might even be supplying Ushra'Khan pilots, but regardless...
Congratulations, U'K, on the achievement and decision to be a bit more civil. Hopefully you realize terrorism in Amarr space isn't actually freeing anyone--preferably without you having to kill everyone first. ------------------------------------------------
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Poreuomai
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.25 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Chereadenine Zakalwe <CVA> Providence will burn...
I am sooo keeping this quote.
Let My People Go |
Eran Mintor
Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2010.06.25 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ugleb
Originally by: Myxx what about those of us who are agnostic to borders and either are just traders, or are helping against the sansha incursions, collectively?
are we targets, too? even if we dont support the idea of slavery?
Agnostic to borders? There's an attitude liable to get you shot.
If you enter a free fire zone without blue standings to our pilots, the assumption is made that you are a threat to our mission and a valid target.
The importance lies in whom you chose to trade with, if you are operating in the Amarr Empire then you are feeding its economy and quite possibly supplying our enemy, directly or indirectly.
Or possibly supplying individual Ushra'Khan pilots, but regardless...
Congratulations on a well chosen step towards better relations among outsiders. I commend and respect your upholding of your goals. ------------------------------------------------
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Van Cleef
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2010.06.26 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ehrine Ashbark
Originally by: Lady LeJean Just keep in mind 90% of Providence will remain NBSI
Yarr..
Ultimately, that is their choice. While I'd like to hope others will "see the light" and swap to NRDS, for me to tell them they "must" or "should" would be counter to what The Star Fraction stands for.
You sir, must be new to Star Fraction. Star Fraction has been demanding others to do what they want for years. Remember recruiters are there to recruit you, not inform you. -----------------------------------------------
Admiral Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM |
Ehrine Ashbark
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.06.26 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Van Cleef
Originally by: Ehrine Ashbark
Originally by: Lady LeJean Just keep in mind 90% of Providence will remain NBSI
Yarr..
Ultimately, that is their choice. While I'd like to hope others will "see the light" and swap to NRDS, for me to tell them they "must" or "should" would be counter to what The Star Fraction stands for.
You sir, must be new to Star Fraction. Star Fraction has been demanding others to do what they want for years. Remember recruiters are there to recruit you, not inform you.
You've clearly not checked my Corp and Alliance history. Unless, of course, you think 2 years makes me "new" still.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.06.26 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Van Cleef
Originally by: Ehrine Ashbark
Originally by: Lady LeJean Just keep in mind 90% of Providence will remain NBSI
Yarr..
Ultimately, that is their choice. While I'd like to hope others will "see the light" and swap to NRDS, for me to tell them they "must" or "should" would be counter to what The Star Fraction stands for.
You sir, must be new to Star Fraction. Star Fraction has been demanding others to do what they want for years. Remember recruiters are there to recruit you, not inform you.
I do hope you aren't still bitter about Mito Van Cleef, that was a long time ago, and your own organization learned the price of enforcing nationalist ideology over the independance of free capsuleers united by revolutionary fervour. It should probably be remembered that in the wake of that dispute you were humbled many times during interventions you attempted to support Amarrian imperialist dogma as virtual creatures aligned to the CVA bloc. The Star Fraction has never been foes of independent commerce but always opposed those who despire to tell free captains where they may go and who they may trade with.
Chatsubo RP Discussion
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Van Cleef
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2010.06.26 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Van Cleef on 26/06/2010 23:06:37 Mito was a very long time ago, and there is no bitterness there. That would be like you being still bitter about when Space Invaders single handedly destroyed your North Venal Alliance. Time heals all wounds.
Furthermore, I did not make any references to Mito. What I was making references was to Star Fractions history of pushing their Dogma onto others for the sake of the "bettermeant" of others. What your newly hired recruit was implying was that Star Fraction would not do such a thing. That is a credit to your recruiters was what I actually had referenced.
I did not mean to sound mysterious, so let me try to restate it without any implications; Star Fraction are a self serving, and at times very confusing group that does in fact push their ideas onto to others by force. -----------------------------------------------
Admiral Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM |
Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.06.28 16:12:00 -
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I think it would be fairer to say, when others push their ideas onto us, we push back.
CAIN pushed, we shot it in the face. --------------------------------------------
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Van Cleef
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2010.06.28 18:37:00 -
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Yes Yes, chest beating and all that. Your discussions simply revolve around one topic and ignore historical truths. Star Fraction has been forcing itself on other groups for years, earliest I can remember was your little campaign in support of the Gallente Empire against the Lame Ducks. You change your dogma to suit your needs, and have selective memories.
You have declared military victory over the Kimotoro Directive, but that wasnt CAIN and Star Fractions first fight. In fact the first time we fought it was Star Fraction that was "punched in the face" or whatever witty remark. For all the free speak, open wills and what not your just another nameless holder alliance camping in Providence after some else did the heavy lifting for you because you could not do it alone.
So beat that chest, sing the song of victories, hell better yet write some forty paragraph response on why your so much better than everyone else again. Those are always fun to skip over. -----------------------------------------------
Admiral Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM |
The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.01 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Van Cleef Yes Yes, chest beating and all that. Your discussions simply revolve around one topic and ignore historical truths. Star Fraction has been forcing itself on other groups for years, earliest I can remember was your little campaign in support of the Gallente Empire against the Lame Ducks. You change your dogma to suit your needs, and have selective memories.
You have declared military victory over the Kimotoro Directive, but that wasnt CAIN and Star Fractions first fight. In fact the first time we fought it was Star Fraction that was "punched in the face" or whatever witty remark. For all the free speak, open wills and what not your just another nameless holder alliance camping in Providence after some else did the heavy lifting for you because you could not do it alone.
I am inclined to view your reference to a rather old conflict as a fascinating insight indeed. Whatever your own rather selective, not to say partial, memory may tell you about the war between Jericho Fraction and the Lame Ducks it was very definitely not waged by my corporation in support of what you are pleased to term the 'Gallente Empire'. (I would at this point note that I find the usage amusing and quite accurate in a descriptive sense.) Indeed, the Lame Ducks were hardly paragons of Caldari... shall we say virtue? They were, after all, expelled from that venerable ancestor of the Kimotoro Directive, the ill-fated United Caldari Alliance Front (UCAF) for, as I recall, piracy, terrorism and 'un-Caldari activities' (or something of the sort). This in the middle of the war we waged against them due to their acts of indiscriminate and unjustified terror.
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that a senior CAIN officer should wax nostalgic for the Practicalist death squads of the Lame Ducks corporation. After all, what is CAIN's most notable achievement? Ah yes, it murdered over 60,000 Caldari State citizens at the behest of a mysterious death squad styling itself the 'Guardian Shadows'. This has long been claimed by CAIN spin-doctors to have been the aberrant act of misguided officers but I rather think the uncontrolled spleen of their former 'Fleet Admiral' has revealed deep roots when it comes to CAIN's true attitude to such acts.
As for the claim that the first war between CAIN and the Fraction ended in a victory for the Caldari paramilitaries. Dear me. You know as well as I that the war petered out into an unsatisfactory stalemate, largely because capsuleer missile technology was upgraded in the middle of the war and it required additional training to use to its full potential. CAIN pilots, entirely understandably as far as I am concerned, chose to avoid battle during this period and we moved on to other matters, just as our Ushra'Khan allies moved on. I emphasise that I cast no aspersions on CAIN pilots over that, they would have fought under a considerable disadvantage in the midst of the necessary retraining and refitting.
When it comes to the rather tawdry dribblings on the subject of Providence: I think laughter is the only response that they merit. Such ulcerous pain on display. I recommend a good, strong anti-emetic.
The Cosmopolite
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.07.01 06:57:00 -
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No disrespect to our valid allies the Star Fraction, but sometimes I wonder how every single topic on Galnet turns into a discussion about you? _______________________ We come for our people! |
The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.01 11:15:00 -
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I think that is a question for others. As a matter of fact such diversions are rarely started at our behest. This case is a specimen example involving an old foe of both the Star Fraction and the Ushra'Khan.
Still, I offer my apology. Let us return to the present and our celebration of the Ushra'Khan's new policy in Providence.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Communications Portal |
Van Cleef
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2010.07.01 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: foksieloy No disrespect to our valid allies the Star Fraction, but sometimes I wonder how every single topic on Galnet turns into a discussion about you?
Well, no offense, but you really said all you had to say in the first post, you guys changed your ROE for your pie of the Providence area. The rest was just discussion about that statement. I would start a thread - but as mentioned there is already enough crap threads filling up the galent that their really doesn't need to be a new one.
Now, I've got 20 minutes with nothing to do, so I'll bite Cosmo. Partial memories, perhaps that particular conflict was around six years ago. I was not claiming to condemn or cordone the actions of the Lame Ducks. I simply stated that the Lame Ducks started a war against the Gallente, anything Gallente, and you took issue with that fact for some reason. By attacking them, you spared Gallente lives and were defacto supporting the Gallente Federation. That must have been before your "personal responsibility" days when podders should take responsibility for their own lives and not require the protection of others. The fact that they were expelled by some caldari organization should not play into your motives since you do not support the formation of such groups.
CAIN was responsible for the destruction of the freighter, an act that was later accepted by the State as a lawful act. The freighter happened to have 60,000 people on it that all evidence points towards being revolutionaries. The fact that the State was later taken over in a similar "revolutionary" act not too long later also supports the act.
But I know that the Star Fraction isn't trying to take some moral high ground. In this thread alone your allies to a known, and self reported terrorist group of the Ushra Khan that over the years makes 60,000 people look like burp in comparsion. Not to mention your were bedfellows to the Gurista Terror group and Veto who has murdered THOUSANDS of times more people in their careers as pirates. So in the end, your moral judgements seem a bit hollow.
Good dodge also on the topic of Providence. It really is a undefenseable position and I don't blame you for shifting away from the topic. -----------------------------------------------
Admiral Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM |
Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard
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Posted - 2010.07.02 02:24:00 -
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Edited by: Codo Yagari on 02/07/2010 02:25:57
It Is Morally Permissible To Kill One Innocent Person To Save The Lives Of More Innocent People? (Ushra Khan NBSI)
Or perhaps the Innocent that are flying in the zones you've declared NBSI are no longer Innocent in your eyes?
I urge you, Ushra'Khan, embrace the mind of civilization before it is too late. Universal NRDS today!
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Flint Renner
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Posted - 2010.07.15 20:51:00 -
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Haha! Well said brothers! I'm not particularly a fan of ongoing war, takes too much organisation for my liking, but i'd enjoy seeing all those Amarr ships exploding! They're always so boring and they NEVER have anything interesting to say, I wonder if they'd be more interesting when they're ship's falling apart around 'em.
Anyway if you would like help in your campaign I would be happy to sign up alongside you, for a small fee ;) Won't demand much, just enough to cover my costs really. I enjoy fighting but it's not as profitable as trading so I must watch my wallet I'm afraid.
What say you lads?
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Gorongo Frostfyr
Projekt Erzengel Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.15 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: Gorongo Frostfyr on 15/07/2010 21:38:39 we haven't forgotten.
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Midori Amiiko
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.16 04:18:00 -
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Having crossed paths with Karn on several occasions I know him to be an honorable capsuleer and I applaud this decision. I look forward to trading in Providence.
I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way John Paul Jones |
Frozean
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Posted - 2010.07.16 04:35:00 -
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Hello.
What is an nrds?
A new version of a nintendo Dual screen?
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Fates Assembly The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.07.16 06:55:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 16/07/2010 06:56:19
Originally by: foksieloy No disrespect to our valid allies the Star Fraction, but sometimes I wonder how every single topic on Galnet turns into a discussion about you?
that would be the bitter caldari starting trash talk in post #43
Originally by: Van Cleef That would be like you being still bitter about when Space Invaders single handedly destroyed your North Venal Alliance.
single handed!? oh sugar child you have no idea...
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kazaanii
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Posted - 2010.07.16 07:04:00 -
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Edited by: kazaanii on 16/07/2010 07:05:06 Hello players of EVE. Can someone give me a summary of what happened and what this outcome means for everyone else? I doubt it means anything to the rest of EVE, just thought I'd ask. Can players like me go in and mine, put up poses and trade, with proper approval?
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