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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:01:00 -
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What's in a name? CCP FoxFour, our new content designer, talks about his recent work on missile designations and the way implants are presented in the market. You can read the dev blog here.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:03:00 -
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FIRST! BWAHAHAHAHA! First on my first dev blog! SO MUCH FUN! :D Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:06:00 -
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Second! |
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CCP Konflikt
CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:09:00 -
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Third. Nice graph! CCP Konflikt Technical QA Tester Team Synergy |
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:09:00 -
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First player!
Now seriously, I think that the pictures for the implant category system are swapped, I guess the left picture is the "new" system and the right one is "old" system, right? "We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..."
Seriously, Team Avatar? |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:12:00 -
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graphporn yay
good job on the market changes, very much appreciated |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:14:00 -
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What's the definition of "content" in "content designer"?
Now that FoxFour has shown that he can make a database update without destroying the database, what content ideas are being scheduled for the future?
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:16:00 -
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Good job!
The one thing I feel the need to nitpick about is that implant names are unnecessarily long:
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1001
Only the underlined part of the name actually helps us understand which implant it is (please correct if wrong). The rest is a bit too much fluff. "Roleplay" relevant info should like the manufacturer name should be in the description. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:16:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:graphporn yay
good job on the market changes, very much appreciated
I have not used mspaint in far to long and so that graph took me far longer than it should have. :P Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:18:00 -
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yay blog!
edit/Me starts to speculate the AT-missile market!
#graphs #tweetfleet #myself #jita #newsat4 #fox4
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:18:00 -
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Takeshi Yamato wrote:Good job!
The one thing I feel the need to nitpick about is that implant names are unnecessarily long:
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1001
Only the underlined part of the name actually helps us understand which implant it is (please correct if wrong). The rest is a bit too much fluff in my opinion.
People whine when the fluff is removed.
Good job on this.
and appropriate that FoxFour is talking about missiles. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:19:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Gilbaron wrote:graphporn yay
good job on the market changes, very much appreciated I have not used mspaint in far to long and so that graph took me far longer than it should have. :P mspaint? Do it in excel, much easier. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:23:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Takeshi Yamato wrote:Good job!
The one thing I feel the need to nitpick about is that implant names are unnecessarily long:
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1001
Only the underlined part of the name actually helps us understand which implant it is (please correct if wrong). The rest is a bit too much fluff in my opinion. People whine when the fluff is removed. Good job on this. and appropriate that FoxFour is talking about missiles.
Yea I know but let's use some common sense here. Our ships aren't called Ishukone Shipyards 'Merlin' Strike Frigate T-03 either.
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:23:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Gilbaron wrote:graphporn yay
good job on the market changes, very much appreciated I have not used mspaint in far to long and so that graph took me far longer than it should have. :P mspaint? Do it in excel, much easier.
It really would have been I agree, but I find graphs drawn in MSPaint are more awesome. :P Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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Cass Lie
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:24:00 -
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The naming changes seem to make sense. Gj especially with implants.
Now, that thing about making f.o.f. missiles actually useful... |
Efraya
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:29:00 -
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This, I like this. Keep up the good work CCP.
WSpace; Best space. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:31:00 -
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BTW, when will these wonderful get to TQ? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Nonnori Ikkala
Love for You Broken Toys
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:49:00 -
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I thought Assault Missiles used to be Heavy Assault Missiles, no? And they were changed recently so that "Heavy Assault Missiles" and "Heavy Missiles" wouldn't both be in the game, because they sound too similar and are confusing? Now you're undoing that recent good work, unless I'm crazy.
Surely you want to change Heavy Assault Missile Launchers -> Assault Missile Launchers instead!? Then the potential for confusion between HAMs and Heavies will stay removed. |
Valkyrs
Deep Vein Trading
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:53:00 -
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Thanks for keeping things clean CCP! 9 years later and the small things are still important.
Keep up the good work! |
Elijah Craig
Trask Industries Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:53:00 -
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Takeshi Yamato wrote:Good job!
The one thing I feel the need to nitpick about is that implant names are unnecessarily long:
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1001
Only the underlined part of the name actually helps us understand which implant it is (please correct if wrong). The rest is a bit too much fluff. "Roleplay" relevant info should like the manufacturer name should be in the description. There was a big debate about this a while ago. Calling everything Pulse Lasers +1 or Pulse Lasers +3 was a bit dry / boring, but also calling them Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beam when Medium is not cruiser sized but actually frigate sized was misleading / overly fluffy.
I think there is a middle ground. A name where core info is clear, it can be easily differentiated but there's also a nice little sprikle of sci-fi flavour is best all round, which I think is where we are with this now. |
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:55:00 -
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\o/ dev blog and graphs!!!! - Nulla Curas |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.16 13:56:00 -
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Nonnori Ikkala wrote:I thought Assault Missiles used to be Heavy Assault Missiles, no? And they were changed recently so that "Heavy Assault Missiles" and "Heavy Missiles" wouldn't both be in the game, because they sound too similar and are confusing? Now you're undoing that recent good work, unless I'm crazy.
Surely you want to change Heavy Assault Missile Launchers -> Assault Missile Launchers instead!? Then the potential for confusion between HAMs and Heavies will stay removed.
I have only been here for a short period of time (wonder how long I can use that excuse?) so I can't comment on the previous name changes to the missiles. My objective when I came into this was simply to match missile to launchers and that could have been changing either the launcher or the missile.
As for why we changed the missile names instead of the launchers, after much discussion and back and forth about it we decided to change the missiles instead of the launchers. I know that doesn't really answer the why, but we did talk about it at length.
I will admit one of the talking points was no one wants to call them AM Drakes instead of HAM Drakes. Ham is just so tasty. Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:00:00 -
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If you're gonna be working on missiles FoxThree would have been more appropriate
Love the graph ! FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1 |
Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:01:00 -
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will u plz stop fiddling with our game and fix all the performance issues? ty |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:02:00 -
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Louis deGuerre wrote:If you're gonna be working on missiles FoxThree would have been more appropriate Love the graph !
While this may not be an official definition, I approve of it:
Quote:"Fox 4" = facetious reference to missile shot; for example, if someone claimed to shoot a missile in an impossible situation, he might be accused of shooting a non-existent "top secret" missile requiring a "Fox 4" call. Also jokingly used when an aircraft is brought down by something other than a missile; for example, a midair collision. Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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Nonnori Ikkala
Love for You Broken Toys
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:05:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:As for why we changed the missile names instead of the launchers, after much discussion and back and forth about it we decided to change the missiles instead of the launchers. I know that doesn't really answer the why, but we did talk about it at length.
I will admit one of the talking points was no one wants to call them AM Drakes instead of HAM Drakes. Ham is just so tasty.
Okay, I would have preferred the Assault Missile name (for both the missiles and the launchers) instead of HAM, because of the HAM/Heavy confusion possibility, but just knowing that y'all thought about it carefully is a comfort. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:07:00 -
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Now, seed the rest of that yummy centurion implant set while you are at it. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Muscaat
EVE Markets
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:08:00 -
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More type name changes make my third-party dev face sad
... but the slightly OCD part of me happy... ah well, you win some and lose some... |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:11:00 -
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This change to implant structure on the market is amazing, thanks.
Now, if only I hadn't dumped my Genolutions after concluding they'd never be added to the market :argh: |
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.16 14:12:00 -
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Thank you! I think the way you organized the implants/hardwirings is much nicer. Now I just wish the LP stores would be cleaned up a little. |
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