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The'Best Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2010.06.16 10:03:00 -
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What's everyone's thoughts on it?
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Mashie Saldana
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.16 10:06:00 -
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What nerf? It still cost the same to have T2 ships explode.
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The'Best Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2010.06.16 10:22:00 -
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I for one would like to congratulate CCP on finally erradicating solo PvP completely.
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Spurty
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.16 10:36:00 -
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Way to early to tell.
Solo pvp is as alive as it's ever been since the nano nerf, stop dying or just take a day out as bear if ship loss is preventing you from undocking Zymurgist ACCIDENTALLY my thargoid |
Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.06.16 10:45:00 -
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Long overdue, but better late than never.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Th155
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Posted - 2010.06.16 10:51:00 -
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What nerf? it's a fix if i ever saw one. Sure things cost more/less to insure, but think about it, at the start of eve I'm hoping (as i was not around) that insurance prices where based around the then material prices. But as time went on, the prices of materials changed, yet the insurance prices where never updated, which eventually lead to the pre-tyrannis state where it was possible to commit insurance fraud. So, if anything, this is not a nerf, but an update, admittedly a far, far to late one.
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Wacktopia
Dark Side Of The Womb Focused Intentions
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Posted - 2010.06.16 11:07:00 -
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Mods and rigs always outprice my hull cost and I fly T2 hulls so it's not biggy for me.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2010.06.16 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: The'Best Hellfury I for one would like to congratulate CCP on finally erradicating solo PvP completely.
lol
Paging Dr Clue. . . . urgent help required in this thread.
insurance payouts crept from not covering everything (like real insurance should) as mins came down in price the payout covered more and more, now its back the way it should be again, the minoritys cry.
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Derelicht
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Posted - 2010.06.16 11:37:00 -
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Apart from those making money from blowing their own ships up (not that they do anymore), does anyone actually use insurance?
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gfldex
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Posted - 2010.06.16 11:37:00 -
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Mineral prices and ship prices are dropping. Will take a few weeks to get back to the ratio it was before the nerf.
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Touchy MyTralala
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Posted - 2010.06.16 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: The'Best Hellfury I for one would like to congratulate CCP on finally erradicating solo PvP completely.
Solo pvps been dead for a loooooong time, this was just beating the dead horse with a 6 foot lead pipe.
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Julius Rigel
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Posted - 2010.06.16 11:39:00 -
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Dear OP,
Just wanted to say: Enjoy your insurance nerf while we're still flying T1 frigs for cheap!
Sincerely, The nano***s
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Th155
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Posted - 2010.06.16 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex Mineral prices and ship prices are dropping. Will take a few weeks to get back to the ratio it was before the nerf.
In which case CCP will again update the insurance, before you know it we will see trit going for 0.01 isk per unit... That is, if everyone is dependant on insurance. So... In order to stop the min-pocalypse, please, don't depend on insurance...
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.06.16 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: The'Best Hellfury I for one would like to congratulate CCP on finally erradicating solo PvP completely.
So I guess that makes my solo caracal the last highlander then?
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.06.16 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: The'Best Hellfury What's everyone's thoughts on it [insurance adjustment(s)]?
After a long enough while, the only difference (compared to pre-Tyrannis days) will be how much miners earn, and not much else, if it was a one-time deal. If insurance keeps getting readjusted on some random periodic basis (like, say, once per month or so), eventually, after enough adjustment-mineralcrash cycles, T1 ships/items will become so cheap (and miners will earn so little) that you won't really care much either way.
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Kerfira
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.16 18:25:00 -
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How the OP would have cried if (s)he had been in the game when a properly fitted Battleship cost 300m...
The insurance nerf didn't go far enough, but it's a start...
Losing a Battleship should be a big thing, and it should hurt your wallet plenty! That way we'd start seeing some of the sub-battlecruiser T1 ships actually getting used again.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Batolemaeus
Caldari Vauryndar Dalharil
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Posted - 2010.06.16 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kerfira
Losing a Battleship should be a big thing, and it should hurt your wallet plenty! That way we'd start seeing some of the sub-battlecruiser T1 ships actually getting used again.
An Armageddon is now less than 40m in Jita.
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.06.16 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 16/06/2010 11:46:57
Originally by: The'Best Hellfury What's everyone's thoughts on it [insurance adjustment(s)]?
After a long enough while, the only difference (compared to pre-Tyrannis days) will be how much miners earn, and not much else, if it was a one-time deal. If insurance keeps getting readjusted on some random periodic basis (like, say, once per month or so), eventually, after enough adjustment-mineralcrash cycles, T1 ships/items will become so cheap (and miners will earn so little) that you won't really care much either way.
Originally by: The'Best Hellfury I for one would like to congratulate CCP on finally erradicating solo PvP completely.
Replace "finally" by "temporarily" and "completely" with "with BSs", and you might have a point.
Highly doubt that will happen. CCP dramatically reduced minerals created from mission running. Right now, a lot of mission runners are not even bothering to loot the rooms, thus decreasing the mineral output even further.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.06.16 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 16/06/2010 18:52:28
Originally by: James Tritanius Highly doubt that will happen. CCP dramatically reduced minerals created from mission running. Right now, a lot of mission runners are not even bothering to loot the rooms, thus decreasing the mineral output even further.
Where were you last month ? You know the saying, a distinguished gentleman and his money will soon be parted and all that.
Hey, you know what, in your case, I'll make an exception and extend the time limit. You can bet as much as you want (see rules) even now that betting is officially closed. But send the bet amount to me directly, no need to involve any 3rd parties. I'm good for it, I promise. Do we have a deal ?
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2010.06.16 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: The'Best Hellfury What's everyone's thoughts on it?
it needed to happen.
also, to whomever said solo PvP is finally dead: it has been so for a long time, and was pretty much doomed to remain so after CCP made the srsly totally insane design decision back in pre-alpha to let two (or more) people shoot the same enemy ship at the same time. _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep! |
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.06.16 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate srsly totally insane design decision back in pre-alpha to let two (or more) people shoot the same enemy ship at the same time.
Here's an evil idea : stack-nerf DPS coming in from multiple damage sources P.S. Don't do that.
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Musical Fist
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.06.16 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: The'Best Hellfury What's everyone's thoughts on it?
Last time I lost something expensive was in 2007 which wasnt even insured anyway, but if the nerf produced tears than I am all for it. -- Emo TraderJohn's Number 1 Fan!! |
Spurty
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.16 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
also, to whomever said solo PvP is finally dead: it has been so for a long time, and was pretty much doomed to remain so after CCP made the srsly totally insane design decision back in pre-alpha to let two (or more) people shoot the same enemy ship at the same time.
You have never shot a Capital in your life, have you?
Only 2 people allowed to be shooting at a cap, thats a riot.
The actual issue here is, EVE is an MMO. Not a Solo FPS game. You can get fights solo, but they are as rare as rocking horse doo doo
Zymurgist ACCIDENTALLY my thargoid |
Ninetails o'Cat
League of Super Evil
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Posted - 2010.06.16 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate srsly totally insane design decision back in pre-alpha to let two (or more) people shoot the same enemy ship at the same time.
Here's an evil idea : stack-nerf DPS coming in from multiple damage sources P.S. Don't do that.
Stack nerf locking time.
It makes a whole lot more sense.
Especially that it stops unbreakable spider rep chains.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Reckoning.
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Posted - 2010.06.16 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
also, to whomever said solo PvP is finally dead: it has been so for a long time, and was pretty much doomed to remain so after CCP made the srsly totally insane design decision back in pre-alpha to let two (or more) people shoot the same enemy ship at the same time.
You have never shot a Capital in your life, have you?
Only 2 people allowed to be shooting at a cap, thats a riot.
The actual issue here is, EVE is an MMO. Not a Solo FPS game. You can get fights solo, but they are as rare as rocking horse doo doo
So...
Do you live in one of those strange cultures that doesn't have sarcasm?
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.06.16 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 16/06/2010 19:24:48
Originally by: Kahega Amielden Do you live in one of those strange cultures that doesn't have sarcasm?
When on the internet, one uses either smileys or sarcasm tags, since it is well known sarcasm does not properly register over small bits of pure text, especially when people are predisposed to assume the other party is an idiot as opposed to just making a joke. Case in point, while Chaos Incarnate's post is almost certainly sarcastic (hooray for rolleye smiley), Spurty's could also be one for all we know (if we never interacted with him before). However, Spurty might have not been aware of that, so... yeah, well, you get the idea.
Originally by: Ninetails o'Cat
Quote: Here's an evil idea : stack-nerf DPS coming in from multiple damage sources P.S. Don't do that.
Stack nerf locking time. It makes a whole lot more sense. Especially that it stops unbreakable spider rep chains.
High degree of exploitability on that too - just have everybody lock everybody else up to max locked targets minus one, and the local gatecamp becomes next to invulnerable to anything except smartbombs as every newcomer takes ages to lock as they come in. If you limit it per gang vs non-gang, all you'll have is people splittig in 2 gangs, or in 2 corps, or... well, you get the idea.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.06.16 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: The'Best Hellfury I for one would like to congratulate CCP on finally erradicating solo PvP completely.
Nah, you just have to adapt. I have gone to building my hulls from **** I reprocess. Hull basically ends up being free in the end, and the money from the insurance covers 1/3 of the module value I usually fly with, so I'm out a little less money than I was before.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.06.16 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 16/06/2010 18:52:28
Originally by: James Tritanius Highly doubt that will happen. CCP dramatically reduced minerals created from mission running. Right now, a lot of mission runners are not even bothering to loot the rooms, thus decreasing the mineral output even further.
Where were you last month ? You know the saying, a distinguished gentleman and his money will soon be parted and all that.
Hey, you know what, in your case, I'll make an exception and extend the time limit. You can bet as much as you want (see rules) even now that betting is officially closed. But send the bet amount to me directly, no need to involve any 3rd parties. I'm good for it, I promise. Do we have a deal ?
Sure, 100mil sent.
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2010.06.16 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 16/06/2010 19:44:36
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate srsly totally insane design decision back in pre-alpha to let two (or more) people shoot the same enemy ship at the same time.
Here's an evil idea : stack-nerf DPS coming in from multiple damage sources P.S. Don't do that.
capital ships shooting each other for hours and hours without anyone dying. I think we'd all go mad _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep! |
Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.06.16 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana What nerf? It still cost the same to have T2 ships explode.
This. When you only fly faction BS, no difference. -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. |
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