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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.06.21 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain
- He was in the Caldari militia and was still capable to talking to me as an adult
- He knew it was a game and where to draw the line
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As said above, Gallente militia has never been able to repeat this feat. They have demanded me and PERVS to be polite to them but from the very start they started hurling the insults our way. Reap what you sow.
But it's relatively pointless. We are in Amarr/Matar front now and unlike Gallentes, they dare to bring us the plex fights without resorting to lameness like turning npcs to shoot on friendly militia. They have more quality and less smack as opponents than you did.
Damar Rocarion
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Steve Celeste
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.06.21 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hidden Snake Again frogs likes you more (the organized part of your career), then squids .... it says something.
I am just going to quote this on every page.
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Draco Rosso
Caldari Draconian Armada
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Posted - 2010.06.21 14:47:00 -
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I think most people on this thread are missing the point. The Caldari militia is going through a tough month, well at least in the ustz. I canĘt speak on behalf of the eutz since I hardly ever play during those times. In the early part of the month the Caldari militia lost their main line FC. This also compounded by the fact that another well known FC switched sides and went to bipolar bears during the same time frame. Not to mentioned he had prior knowledge of our intel channels. This left the ustz in a sad shape. First, very milita members are willing to pick the mantle of FC work. Second, those that do pick up the mantle are only given token support. This leads FCs with a simple choice on most nights, run or get destroyed in Tama-Oms pipe line. The general lack of performance this month leads to the Caldari militia FCs getting ridiculed on the eve-online forums. This cycle of death doesnĘt foster growth for the Caldari. I donĘt expect the Gals to give us even or fair fights, nor do I want them. I just want to give general awareness to the eveonline community of our current situation. Unless the CDI makes some positive changes soon (July), you are looking at the complete collapse of the Caldari militia.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.06.21 15:59:00 -
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forget tama-oms pipe. Better fights are else where.
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Sebastien LaForge
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.06.21 16:06:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Super Chair
...only find you've brought four gaurdians and twice as many ships as we've got in our fleet, plus a carrier.
Good lord when did this happen? I'd be hard pressed to name a fight where we had even one logistics. Twice as many ships? Sure, I've been there, but carrier support against a 0-cap ship gang (not even BS at that?) I call BS. If you can show me it happened then I'll promptly eat my hat and know who to blame, but we're hard pressed enough to get cap ships out to combat other cap ships!
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GavinGoodrich
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.06.21 16:24:00 -
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who switched sides?
I kinda considered this option last winter, back when we had all the people But my isk grind woulda gotten screwed so I had to pick other options.
Just out of curiosity, how's the Min/amarr war going? \o |
Unctom
Minmatar Nomadic Wayfarer Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.21 16:37:00 -
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Calderus Rex switched to gallente and Gunny had to travel for a few weeks or something, so I've switched back to the other front this month and Amarr has been way more active compared to what I saw a while back in USTZ. The only thing I don't really like is how ridiculously close to each other amarr and minmatar live, often a 'roam' exists in just that one constellation with everything being within one jump. |
Aiden Vorlan
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.06.21 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Unctom Calderus Rex switched to gallente and Gunny had to travel for a few weeks or something, so I've switched back to the other front this month and Amarr has been way more active compared to what I saw a while back in USTZ. The only thing I don't really like is how ridiculously close to each other amarr and minmatar live, often a 'roam' exists in just that one constellation with everything being within one jump.
Gunny is currently at Fort Benning, GA for parachute quals. He won't be back for another week or two, if I remember the schedule for it.
Second, there was one point where Gunny led out a group of frigates for a roam. Next thing we know, the Gallente jump on us with BCs and two triage carriers. We scrammed right away, not playing on those terms. This was about a month ago,I think.
First to fight for right and freedom, And to keep our honor clean!
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Super Chair
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.21 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastien LaForge
Originally by: Super Chair
...only find you've brought four gaurdians and twice as many ships as we've got in our fleet, plus a carrier.
Good lord when did this happen? I'd be hard pressed to name a fight where we had even one logistics. Twice as many ships? Sure, I've been there, but carrier support against a 0-cap ship gang (not even BS at that?) I call BS. If you can show me it happened then I'll promptly eat my hat and know who to blame, but we're hard pressed enough to get cap ships out to combat other cap ships!
No, it really did happen. Cool Guys and others dropped a chimera, thanny as well as a wyvern (I think there was another cap on the field, i don't remember what it was, we GTFO pretty quick) on a 10 man gang comprising mostly of frigs/cruisers to save their arazu. 2-4 guardians is a much more common site though.
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GavinGoodrich
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.06.21 18:04:00 -
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To be fair, both sides have cap pilots that are fairly new to actually deploying them.
Loldrops like that one make for good practice runs on some of the mechanics, even if nothing happens \o |
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Sebastien LaForge
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.06.21 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Super Chair
No, it really did happen. Cool Guys and others dropped a chimera, thanny as well as a wyvern (I think there was another cap on the field, i don't remember what it was, we GTFO pretty quick) on a 10 man gang comprising mostly of frigs/cruisers to save their arazu. 2-4 guardians is a much more common site though.
Cools Guys as in a corp? Haven't heard of them. In either case, that's pretty ******ed. There's blobbing with intent to fight, and then there's blobbing knowing full well you won't get one. The latter really makes no sense.
I can understand why both sides outblob eachother on occasion. When there's not as much to kill, everyone and there mom wants to get in on a fight when there is, thus scaring off and lessening the amount of pilots in low sec. It's a feedback system that needs to die :E
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.06.21 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastien LaForge
Originally by: Super Chair
No, it really did happen. Cool Guys and others dropped a chimera, thanny as well as a wyvern (I think there was another cap on the field, i don't remember what it was, we GTFO pretty quick) on a 10 man gang comprising mostly of frigs/cruisers to save their arazu. 2-4 guardians is a much more common site though.
Cools Guys as in a corp? Haven't heard of them. In either case, that's pretty ******ed. There's blobbing with intent to fight, and then there's blobbing knowing full well you won't get one. The latter really makes no sense.
I can understand why both sides outblob eachother on occasion. When there's not as much to kill, everyone and there mom wants to get in on a fight when there is, thus scaring off and lessening the amount of pilots in low sec. It's a feedback system that needs to die :E
Just the other day I was moseying my way through Heyd in my Curse alone, I head to the Abune gate to see whats up, and see some Gals I thought, "Oh hey guys, wassup?" And then I see 10 Firbolgs appear on my overview. :D
Needless to say I went ahead and jumped. It was pretty amusing though. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.21 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: Cromwell Savage on 21/06/2010 18:44:39
Originally by: Jin Nib Just the other day I was moseying my way through Heyd in my Curse alone, I head to the Abune gate to see whats up, and see some Gals I thought, "Oh hey guys, wassup?" And then I see 10 Firbolgs appear on my overview. :D
Needless to say I went ahead and jumped. It was pretty amusing though.
LOLz - I think I know who's at fault on that one...
New toys are hard to put away
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.06.21 18:52:00 -
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Listening to ex-Caldari washouts like Damar cry about how unfair the Caldari-Gallente war was always brings a smile to my face. It's like irony overload. -----
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Syekuda
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.06.26 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastien LaForge Edited by: Sebastien LaForge on 20/06/2010 00:47:26 Where the hell are you guys hiding? I can't get any leads for setting up fights when nobody seems to know any trustworthy FCs over there in the State Protectorate!
We've been hard up for good fleet fights with you guys lately, and we've a lot of newbies to train, as undoubtedly you do too. In any case, I've been looking for someone on the other side to work together with in the interest of both sides' new pilots. It's hard getting a truely equal fight as both sides tend to fleet up and come out to gank stragglers at different times. With this in mind, I propose we try out some small, prearranged fleet fights with ship restrictions to help give the new guys some exposure to how PVP should operate out here in the pipe.
I eagerly await your responses
PS. leave the politics at home, I just want to have a good time
PPS. Bring back Gavin 2010!
PPPS. This may unfortunately be too idealistic to work for the jaded hearts of EVE.
It could work but thats rather only a trust thing. Can we trust the gallente for bringing let say only frigs or cruisers ? no backup. just a fair fight ? We could or they could but then again. At that point we can say that if we "continue" to do that then FW needs a revamp from its heart and from its core. seriously.
On a more possible note. 1 thing that EVERY FC in caldari militia could do which is very possible is to say to its fleet "fit at least 1 Remote Rep" module or we need at least 2 logis. if not, we dont go out roaming. That will force people to bring logi or support. I see lots of fleets without logi, support, ewar and most of them die instantly.
That way we got more chance of winning no matter the numbers. Just look at the killboard for proof, its all there.
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Lock out
Bi-Polar Bears
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Posted - 2010.06.29 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Lock out on 29/06/2010 19:45:00 Edited by: Lock out on 29/06/2010 19:37:55
Originally by: Super Chair 2-4 guardians is a much more common site though.
Why are the guardians seeded ? Not to be fielded ? Did u ever hear us ***** about you bringing 5 Scorpions and 2 bb to a fight ? No, we just responded with a triage archon and a support fleet that warped in at 100 on top of your ECM. TL DR , stop crying about people bringing seeded ships and find solutions. (As I am typing this I just realise I lost a guardian like 15 min ago to a caldari fleet Might Have something to do with Gunny coming back )
As for the loldrops, they are on the border of fun and stupidity and tbh most of the time we know you'll get away with minimal or zero losses, we're just bored and looking to get a bit of adrenaline rush by fielding an expensive ship in a risky area. And not like there aren't tactics to kill caps with subcapitals.
But oh well, I guess it's easier to spend time on the forums complaining about blobbers with guardians, then to spend times on sisi working on new tactics.
As for Calderus Rex afaik no one in our corp asked him anything about your intel channels or other sensitive info, neither did he volunteer that intel. We understand that he prolly made friends there and betraying the trust your friends put in you is not one of the requirements to join BI-PO, in fact it's quite the opposite.
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GavinGoodrich
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.06.29 19:46:00 -
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" tbh most of the time we know you'll get away with minimal or zero losses, we're just bored and looking to get a bit of adrenaline rush by fielding an expensive ship in a risky area."
Fight the powah!
Yes you can trust the gallente. They're normal people looking for fun PVP like you and me. Jesus knock it off with the roleplay.
If you ask nicely, they'll even team up with ya vs. local pirates \o/ \o |
Sebastien LaForge
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.06.29 21:18:00 -
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On another note, what's with the 40 man squids blobs coming 'round our home in the middle of the US timezone? Are you expecting an appropriate response? Why can't you bring it around again when people with lives log on several hours later?
p.s. still no other squid FCs yet?
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Aggammenonn
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Posted - 2010.06.29 22:30:00 -
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Not sure who it is Sebastian but there seem to be some good Caldari fcs lurking out there. I really didnt like damn near getting crushed in that pincher move they pulled on my fleet in Naga through the 2 pipes. Then they chased us all over the pipes for an hour, shiped up, attacked Nis forgetting about us, and had my fleet warp in on their support ships... Was well played till then though.
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Aristeia Cersei
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Posted - 2010.06.29 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Aristeia Cersei on 29/06/2010 22:36:19
Originally by: Sebastien LaForge
Originally by: Flashh Gorden Dont throw numbers around because when im flying in low sec I see alot more Gallente than I do Caldari so I would say we are outnumbered quite badly in low sec atm.
Gallente: 4570 Caldari: 6055
Not our fault you guys stay in High-sec. I'd love to see more of you out here in our systems.
As an Aside, Gavin continues to prove his awesomeness. We cheered for you when we noticed you were fighting in the tourney. Shame you popped so quick :(
also, plexing is ******ed.
I'm fairly new to FW but I'm a ISK making alt I must admit, however I do go out hunting from time to time. I live in low sec in Suj and would also like to see many more Caldari move into low sec.
I think it's a problem of convenience more than anything else TBH. It's very convenient for Caldari Militia members to live in Nouv as it's only 3 jumps from Jita. This more or less installs a attitude of why bother moving to low sec when they can base out of high sec 3 jumps away from the biggest trade hub in EVE.
The problem in this, means there are a lot less Squids whom are willing to un-dock and randomly go out for a roam. Adding to this they also get themselves camped into high sec when the Gallente blobs or pirate gangs decide to camp the gates.
The Gallente share some blame in this as well, yet I can't really blame you for camping the gates but doing so reduces the amount of Caldari that will end up in low sec and reduces your chances of pvp. Meaning you are hurting your own chances at getting PVP because the Caldari can't come into Tama unless they have a gang to counter yours.
What I mean by this, is if there is a 15 man Gallete gang camping one of Tama's gates then that means your aren't going to see any Caldari jumping into Tama and going to low sec unless they can get a gang big enough to deal with what ever you have at the moment.
Essentially by camping the gates you insure that you will likely not get a fight.
For my self, I could care less if you guys camp gates or what ever, as you never catch me or effect what I do in low sec. However if you guys want fights then I'd suggest moving the choke points a bit further away from Tama and that will give smaller Caldari gangs the ability to get into low sec and provide some fights.
If you camp the gates then it just requires them to wait until enough people form up a gang and most likely if they get that far it's going to be a gang big enough to counter yours our blob it out which equals no fight.
Militia numbers are useless as Caldari Militia don't have a lot of active PVPers and it's very easy for people to stay in FW and live their lives in Caldari high sec if they choose.
If it was up to me, Caldari would over run Tama and base from that system and then kick you guys out of Nis. I think it's important to live in low sec hence the reason I live in Suj, but many are lazy and living in high sec is much easier option due to easy logistics.
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alden good
SUDDEN DAMAGE
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Posted - 2010.07.01 03:02:00 -
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I SHALL LEAD THE CAL FORCES!!!! KAAABLLLAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!1
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kahhhhhnn
Lovey dovey hug club
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Posted - 2010.07.01 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: alden good I SHALL LEAD THE CAL FORCES!!!! KAAABLLLAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!1
Is "KAAABLLLAAAAAAAAHHHHHH" your codename for aufay now adays?
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Gallactica
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.01 13:47:00 -
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Welcome back Gunni, great to see a caldari fc with some balls jumping into us last night (we were outnumbered btw) for a good scrap, shame a lot of your fleet members let you down big style.
Not gonna e-peen wave about the outcome but it's not just about the fc's, they need help from fleet members to do there job right tbh and fit there ships at least halfway decent, some of them were atrocious tbh.
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Hidden Snake
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.07.01 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Gallactica Welcome back Gunni, great to see a caldari fc with some balls jumping into us last night (we were outnumbered btw) for a good scrap, shame a lot of your fleet members let you down big style.
Not gonna e-peen wave about the outcome but it's not just about the fc's, they need help from fleet members to do there job right tbh and fit there ships at least halfway decent, some of them were atrocious tbh.
... have to speak with him again ... D O N O T F I G H T U N D E R E N E M Y T E R M .... headbang ....
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Gallactica
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.01 16:24:00 -
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Hang on, how is having more ships than us and being heavier than us fighting under our terms mate?
We jumped into a similar size gang to ours an hour or two earlier and the end result was the same - half your guys warping off, half not engaging and some shocking fits.
You've got some quality fc's but a lot if the people in your fleets are letting you down badly mate.
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Aiden Vorlan
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.07.01 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hidden Snake
Originally by: Gallactica Welcome back Gunni, great to see a caldari fc with some balls jumping into us last night (we were outnumbered btw) for a good scrap, shame a lot of your fleet members let you down big style.
Not gonna e-peen wave about the outcome but it's not just about the fc's, they need help from fleet members to do there job right tbh and fit there ships at least halfway decent, some of them were atrocious tbh.
... have to speak with him again ... D O N O T F I G H T U N D E R E N E M Y T E R M .... headbang ....
Please don't try to tell Gunny about combat theory. Especially when he's an Army officer cadet and one of the few people who - when explaining combat theory on comms - I don't have to correct him at all.
First to fight for right and freedom, And to keep our honor clean!
Semper fidelis! |
Hidden Snake
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.07.03 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Hidden Snake on 03/07/2010 10:32:49
Originally by: Gallactica Hang on, how is having more ships than us and being heavier than us fighting under our terms mate?
We jumped into a similar size gang to ours an hour or two earlier and the end result was the same - half your guys warping off, half not engaging and some shocking fits.
You've got some quality fc's but a lot if the people in your fleets are letting you down badly mate.
u allways have to consider quallity of your forces .... which gunny as an army off.knows too .... I allways do this when I consider engagement...and long term mate I am working on people to be better (and you know it ;) )
to aiden ... ignoring ....zzzz (well i will be acused of being rude again in general militia chat *sigh* :)) ok ... it will be open discussion - have some security / mil training too.
and regarding your signature .... i think it explains our points of view difference ...
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Ramingo
Caldari Payable on Death
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Posted - 2010.07.03 11:14:00 -
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If you want better fights cut down on the metagaming, is all I'm gonna say on this subject anymore. FCs don't like to FC cause spies tell the enemy fleet in advance who to primary = instapop irregardless of what ship they're in. And the amount of times we were gonna bring a fight to a slightly outnumbered fleet and they'd run because they knew our exact strategy/fleet composition etc...
It's craptastic, you expect caldari to just form a big blob and jump into you and get slaughtered, complain when they don't, and run/hide when they do go after you.
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2010.07.03 13:53:00 -
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Gah... I miss this crap... I think Gal BS 5 has been done training for like a month...
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.03 20:31:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Steve Celeste
Originally by: Hidden Snake Again frogs likes you more (the organized part of your career), then squids .... it says something.
I am just going to quote this on every page.
Actually - a lot of caldari militia corps left the caldari militia to follow him into 0.0 as I understand it. I think that might show that the caldari at the time liked him a lot. Probably more so than the gallente corps who stayed in FW instead of going to 0.0 with him as well.
Just saying :)
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