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5nipe
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Posted - 2010.06.25 02:06:00 -
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This is small project to help people get used to exploration as mini profession in EVE. It is not a guide how to scan. It is a guide about how to make decent ISKs without few month of skills training. It is about how to get exited about EVE, have a plan what to do and not rage quit after only couple of days playing.
It aimed mostly for new players who still looking for interesting way of playing EVE right from the day 1. It may be also interesting for those who wants to break apart for a while from mining or missions running, try something different, experimenting a bit and find out how far all this tails about billions of ISK from plexes are from truth.
At the moment Exploration Almanac will be posted on blogspot.com but it will be available in .pdf as well shortly.
The guide is far away to be called perfect, especially that English is not my native language. Some content may be confusing at first glance or questionable as the best solution or tactic. So, fell free join "Exploration Almanac" channel in game if you have any questions or inquires.
Here is the twitter NP Crusaider @twitter.
And here is Full Blog
Preface
Introduction
Getting Started
First Exploration Ship
Small money printing mashine
Scanning Skills Improvement
Drones as weapon of choise
Run Forest, run...
Cheers!
P.S. Any links to scanning guides will be much appreciated.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.06.25 04:31:00 -
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Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 25/06/2010 04:36:29 Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 25/06/2010 04:34:44 I like it. Nice call on being unarmed in the early days - pretty much my case flying a Minnie Probe but I was able to field a couple of T2 drones that did the dirty work while I hacked.
It's very funny because, if you based your material on experience, it looks like we had the same experience and run into the same conclusions. I have been using the same exploration ship for a year now, and it has evolved to this:
[Cyclone, Cyclone: The Remnant] Damage Control II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Shadow Serpentis Small Armor Repairer
Large Shield Extender II 100MN Afterburner II Target Painter II Analyzer II Codebreaker II
Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay Improved Cloaking Device II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Drone Link Augmentor I Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher Salvager II
Large Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Empty
Hobgoblin II Hornet EC-300
It's not a PVP ship but it has seen PVP and survived. Mission grinding? All Lvl 3 missions are possible, some lvl 4. Seems to work well against Serpentis most but Sansha/Guristas lobbing cruise missiles really lay the hurt down. The Large Rig shows its age - this ship has seen hundreds of WHs, many 0.0 systems, and with much care it survives.
In think that to be strictly a exploration ship I should drop the expanded probe launcher and go with core probe launcher and this would let me drop a CPU too and get a low back. But sometimes I find abandoned ships in WH space and it's rare that I purchase T2 drones because I can scan them out and collect them.
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Fumitsugu
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Posted - 2010.06.25 07:02:00 -
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I cried a little when I saw that fit. Poor poor Cyclone. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.06.25 07:32:00 -
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Gotta grief 'em one way or the other
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Tim Lincecum
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Posted - 2010.06.25 22:26:00 -
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Hey! Only a few months old exploderer here. I like to think I at least have the basics down and make ISK doing it. I love your guide, I wish I had seen it before now, a few things in there I didn't know and hadn't thought about. It seems like all guides are written for your first day in space, or when you have really advanced far already. I love the approach here. Thanks!! |
Vixorz
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Posted - 2010.06.25 23:09:00 -
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Good job. I liked to read most of your almanac, and i see that the Gila got your attention too. I've been fitting one with a cloak to supposedly go into WH. But it's an expensive ship to go there and lose it, IMO.
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Ritzenhoff
Gallente Ritzenhoff Industrial Design
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Posted - 2010.06.26 11:25:00 -
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Nice blog and interesting to read. I've been trying some exploration myself lately just in high sec to begin with and my results have been similar to yours.
It's really not that far off level 4s (or at least level 3s) in terms of rewards and requires less skills and less grinding for standings.
Right now I'm using a Brutix - the Myrmidon might be a better choice except that if you find a wormhole (which was very profitable! Over 30m isk from 45 minutes spent in a C1) the sleepers eat your drones for breakfast. Fit is below, also carrying around an analyser and codebreaker for the non-wormhole sites. Tech I fit would be fine for noobs outside of wormholes, tech II fit and decent pilot skills required for wormholes though.
[Brutix, Wormhole Explorer] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Stasis Webifier II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II
250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I Salvager I
Hornet II x5
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Addrake
Minmatar The Six-Pack Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.27 03:03:00 -
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Loved the read. I'm a rather new player and am going the cov-ops route for SB's and was rather stoked about being able to pilot an Anathema as well. I will definitely try out exploration now that I've seen what it can do, as missioning while being great fun for faction, isn't really appealing to me for money making. It reminds me too much of "questing" in other mmo's. Keep up the good work and your English was fine
Addrake
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Fumitsugu
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Posted - 2010.06.27 08:29:00 -
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Bump for a good post! I would recommend one of the t1 drone cruisers as a nice upgrade from the Imicus, one that will let you get your feet wet in the more fruitful low security regions, while not breaking the bank.
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Thatim Roid
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Posted - 2010.06.27 09:25:00 -
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Great blog!
Inspired me to give exploring another shot.. and I am glad I did!
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Mindraak
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Posted - 2010.06.27 09:58:00 -
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big thumbs up for this guide... especially from noobs like me
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Nisha Fang
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.27 11:39:00 -
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Thanks for the write-up. Very helpful for a noob like me.
Thumbs up
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Aitreus Gustus
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Posted - 2010.06.27 11:47:00 -
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While it's not a bad idea to collect some ideas and put them together in a consistent guide, i think you mostly missed the thing:
1. The beginning is somewhat helpful but not too profund. One the one hand, you're too straight with the things (train those skills, get this ship, buy these things) for noobs. The absence of how to scan and exploration info in general makes it useless for them. On the other hand a page full of info for experienced players would have been sufficient. Put more info about why someone should do it that way, alternatives and the things around in, make it more structured (fe. chapters about scan frigs, types of sites, drones etc.). And link at least some scanning guides if you do not want to explain it yourself. 2. The useful part of the guide ends at the point: "and then i scanned a plex with my one week old char, so i changed to my Tengu and roxx them all". Cut it or fill it with the missing parts in between. And do not promise a noob to get 25mil isk a hour. The topic is lurid. 3. The layout hurts my eyes (spreadsheets). Also try to work on language (there are dictionarys at the web) or hire a native speaker.
So try to resist thinking i'm just a troll and put "exploration guide" into google. Then think about + rewrite it. Your idea to make more than just a scanning guide is a very good one imo.
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5nipe
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Posted - 2010.06.27 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Aitreus Gustus Also try to work on language (there are dictionarys at the web) or hire a native speaker.
It is "dictionaries" not "dictionarys".
So let me not to reply to the rest of your post for the moment.
:-)
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John Rothman
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Posted - 2010.06.27 18:12:00 -
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Wish I knew where you were probing; I've gone dozens of systems (not on major routes either) with only wormholes to be found.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.06.28 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: John Rothman Wish I knew where you were probing; I've gone dozens of systems (not on major routes either) with only wormholes to be found.
In the Stain region, for two weeks I got everything EXCEPT Worm Holes. Sites galore, radar, gravi, magneto, you name it. But no worm holes.
Sometimes this happens in a WH too.
And yes, sometimes, all you get are Worm Holes.
Gotta love exploration
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Esa Dahli
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Posted - 2010.06.28 07:09:00 -
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Edited by: Esa Dahli on 28/06/2010 07:10:11
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Originally by: John Rothman Wish I knew where you were probing; I've gone dozens of systems (not on major routes either) with only wormholes to be found.
In the Stain region, for two weeks I got everything EXCEPT Worm Holes. Sites galore, radar, gravi, magneto, you name it. But no worm holes.
Sometimes this happens in a WH too.
And yes, sometimes, all you get are Worm Holes.
Gotta love exploration
I've come to hate it.
Been exploring the past couple of weeks, doing trips of 18j to a deserted area. I'd be lucky to find even one radar/mag site and then even more lucky if the cans contain anything, and even then I've found nothing of value... only some minor salvage parts. Nothing but grav/wh sites.
This is in no way comparable to isk/hour for mission running. Only a couple of times I made some isk which came from bounties alone in a complex. Hell I got more from the anomalies than from all sites combined.
From the EVE Wiki on Exploring:
Quote: What is Exploration? Exploration is the art of scanning a solar system for a Deadspace signature that does not traditionally appear on a ship's scanners or overview. These Deadspace zones are designed to reward players for the additional work required to reveal them.
I call bullcrap. I put in a lot of time of tedious scanning, but was rewarded in no way even close to lazy mission running. In hi-sec Amarr anyway.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.06.28 07:16:00 -
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In Stain I have seen bots, the same crew running the mission bots, drop deep space probes for 20 seconds, and pull them in. Those systems where I saw them were usually devoid of sites. They tended to be the ones that they had stations in (NPC or their own). Stationless systems had sites in them that could be scanned (combat, radar, etc).
I don't know if there is a scanning bot out there, publicly, but it was always the same crew, and on all of the time (as usual).
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5nipe
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Posted - 2010.06.28 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
I don't know if there is a scanning bot out there, publicly, but it was always the same crew, and on all of the time (as usual).
Undoc, drop 1 DSP, 256 AU, scan, OSR, doc, if any new sig, SMS :-)
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Markus El'kar
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Posted - 2010.06.28 23:05:00 -
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I scanned down a large chunk of Sinq Lasion today and got one radar site.
These things are farmed to hell.
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Ker'zu D'wa
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Posted - 2010.06.29 04:06:00 -
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I'm not sure why you reccomend Caldari space for exploring. It's hands down the most over-farmed region in empire, and probably all of New Eden.
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Myth Al'kar
Blueprint Haus Empire Vacation Home
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Posted - 2010.06.29 04:57:00 -
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8/10 OP, that should keep the newbs on a snipe hunt for some time.
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De Gekko
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: De Gekko on 29/06/2010 14:09:35 2 Thumbs up. Very inspirational, this has actually brought me to try out exploration myself.
One question though, is there a quick way to identify Wormholes? 90% of my hits seem to be wormholes, which I only find out after spending a lot of time working on the signal strength. My probing skills are fairly low for now (astro skills at III), so I'm using an Imicus (G Frig IV) with regular Core Probe Launcher and Sister Core Probes.
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Mia Lang
Caldari Department of Planetary Services
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ker'zu D'wa I'm not sure why you reccomend Caldari space for exploring. It's hands down the most over-farmed region in empire, and probably all of New Eden.
He speaks the truff
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AdZc
Caldari Legio Prima Victrix
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Posted - 2010.06.29 16:01:00 -
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Want to add a bit of advice myself, from your blog the page titled - "Guristas Shattered Life-Support"
"Note: As you may see, this site has 4 cans, and they are spreaded. It can be annoying to keep track which one you already opened. It would be good idea to train targeting for 1 more level, so we get 4 targets for Imicus. Target all 4 cans and travel from left to right, or from right to left. "
Change your overview settings (at work so cant remember how) and add a colum - Tag, then create a fleet for yourself and you can tag the cans A,B,C,1,2,3 etc. changin to X as you complete each can. THis is a good way of knowing which cans you have done.
Or just X all the ones you have done etc upto u.
And regarding the post above about language etc.
I understand it fine, its a blog not a novel, i assume English is not your first language but i think you have wrote it fine.
As you said yourself its not a full on guide, i like it. I may go create an alt for this lol --------------------------- Shipoopi!
Originally by: Sangeli
Please be nice to me I donated blood
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
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Posted - 2010.06.29 19:07:00 -
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Always happy to see more bloggers, especially blogs that don't consist of just killmails and chat logs. And especially blogs about K-space exploration. Keep it up!
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Myth Al'kar
Blueprint Haus Empire Vacation Home
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Posted - 2010.06.29 22:22:00 -
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Good information for new people, what most, including myself, fail to realize is that you know a lot about exploration and scanning. This knowledge alone greatly increases your income. New players will make far far less, even with higher skills and better equipment then your alt, simply due to learning curve.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.06.30 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: AdZc Want to add a bit of advice myself, from your blog the page titled - "Guristas Shattered Life-Support"
"Note: As you may see, this site has 4 cans, and they are spreaded. It can be annoying to keep track which one you already opened. It would be good idea to train targeting for 1 more level, so we get 4 targets for Imicus. Target all 4 cans and travel from left to right, or from right to left. "
Change your overview settings (at work so cant remember how) and add a colum - Tag, then create a fleet for yourself and you can tag the cans A,B,C,1,2,3 etc. changin to X as you complete each can. THis is a good way of knowing which cans you have done.
Or just X all the ones you have done etc upto u.
And regarding the post above about language etc.
I understand it fine, its a blog not a novel, i assume English is not your first language but i think you have wrote it fine.
As you said yourself its not a full on guide, i like it. I may go create an alt for this lol
This. Very good advice.
I would also like to point out that, if configured for it, be quick on these actions. Lesser players who could not scan down the site might scan down your ship, so get to those containers as fast as you can, and use drones to keep the rats off while you hack or analyze.
There are people who "probe jack". They may not have the machine with the better scanning equipment, and rigs plus implants, but all they need are combat probes. Using the D-scanner, they will look out for probe clusters, which is a indication that "somebody is onto something". As soon as the probes are gone and/or there is a ship in there, they move combat probes on, hit the site, and have the cans scanned or analed. In some regions I have seen the same name every time showing up within 15-20 seconds of arrival in a fast ship to hit the site. It's even worse if you don't know what to expect and start farther out in a slower ship.
There is a way to deal with these people and they are easier to fool then you could expect.
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Dark Drifter
Amarr Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.30 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Drifter on 30/06/2010 09:25:15 dont expect to always have epix "isk on ur books" at the end of the day, i made just short of 500mill one day from 2 serp 4/10s
the next day i found same 2 sites and made less than 10mill, its all chance
Dark Drifter
P.P.S: i have been reading more of your blog . . . sigs are generaly within 5Au of a planet not moon, but there are some that can spawn up to 15Au from a celestial body, theae are not that common though and are the higher end plexes/sites for that sec raiting. anoms will always spawn within 5Au of a planet. scan sig strength IMO is: 1:WHs (easy to scan) 2: grav sites 3:combat sites 4: mag sites 5:radar sites
1A: anoms insta scanned with probes to our departed friend EDD "april 09" fly true man |
5nipe
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Posted - 2010.07.01 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: AdZc
Change your overview settings (at work so cant remember how) and add a colum - Tag, then create a fleet for yourself and you can tag the cans A,B,C,1,2,3 etc. changin to X as you complete each can. THis is a good way of knowing which cans you have done.
It is great tip, thank you for sharing it.
It is incredibly useful when u get jammed by new wave for example and lost lock on all your cans.
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