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Sofalord
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Posted - 2010.06.25 23:16:00 -
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often talk about.. often answer, but nowhere the right values about calculating the right amount...
i search the right formula , depend on the char skills xml, to calculate for every ship.
i search the values for:
1. normal mining amount without any bonus from orca pilot or rorqual.. 2. the special mining amount formula 3. orca bonus factors 4. rorqual bonus factors (same as point 3) 5. skiff mining amount (+ description of bonus stacks) 6. mackinaw mining amount formula
i really know, that the formula is not public , but i know that some people (also haladas mining guide) has some nice information, but the formula is not up to date :(
so if you help me, i can help out with a nice mining tool.
thx a lot.
greetings
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D Gelalder
Gallente Core Antum
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Posted - 2010.06.26 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: D Gelalder on 26/06/2010 00:12:43 Everything you ever wanted to know about mining and more!
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1020825
note to self: do not post while half a sleep.. :\
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Sofalord
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Posted - 2010.06.26 00:24:00 -
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Quote: i really know, that the formula is not public , but i know that some people (also haladas mining guide) has some nice information, but the formula is not up to date :(
thats what i already said... haladas has a very nice guide, but the yield calc is NOT up to date...
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Rough Necks
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Posted - 2010.06.26 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sofalord i really know, that the formula is not public
what wouldn't be public about it? just add the various skill/ship bonuses, that's simple arithmetic --
Originally by: Zeke Mobius I swear the catholic church was faster at admitting the earth was round than CCP at fixing stuff.
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Sofalord
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Posted - 2010.06.26 00:42:00 -
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simple?
we have tested some simple stacking amounts, but all tests not shown the ingame amount , shown in the "show info" text...
so wtf,... how it works :|
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.26 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sofalord simple?
we have tested some simple stacking amounts, but all tests not shown the ingame amount , shown in the "show info" text...
so wtf,... how it works :|
Proof or STFU. Before you start posting answers, take in mind that mining yield is a two numbers, not one. Yield per cycle and length of cycle. -- Thanks CCP for cu |
Sofalord
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Posted - 2010.06.26 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Sofalord on 26/06/2010 16:17:16 Edited by: Sofalord on 26/06/2010 16:16:51 due to heavy amount of time weg solve the "problem" alone...
i hope the eft guys can also put it in :)
simple as it seems :
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value1 = ("baseyield of miner") value2 = value1 + ( value1 * ( ("Mining Skilllevel") * ("0,05") ) ) value3 = value2 + ( value2 * ( ("Astrogeology Skilllevel") * ("0,05") ) ) value4 = value3 + ( value3 * ( ("Mining Barge Skilllevel") * ("0,03") ) ) value5 = value4 + ( value4 * ( ("Exhumer Skilllevel") * ("0,03") ) ) value6 = value5 + ( value5 * ( ("a") * ("0,05") ) ) // a stands for HX-2 Highwall if exists then a = 1, else a = 0 value7 = value6 + ( value6 * ( ("b") * ("0,05") ) ) // b stands for Michi's Mining Imp if exists b = 1, else b = 0 value8 = value7 + ( value7 * ( ("w") * "x") ) ) // w stands for the first Mining Laser Upgrade I if exists w = 1 & x = 0,05 , else w = 0 & x = 0 (if meta 4 then x = 0,09) value9 = value8 + ( value8 * ( ("y") * "z") ) ) // y stands for the first Mining Laser Upgrade I if exists y = 1 & z = 0,05 , else y = 0 & z = 0 (if meta 4 then x = 0,09) value10= value9 + ( value9 * ( ("w") * "x") ) ) // w stands for the first Mining Laser Upgrade II if exists w = 1 & x = 0,09 , else w = 0 & x = 0 value11= value10+ ( value10* ( ("y") * "z") ) ) // y stands for the first Mining Laser Upgrade II if exists y = 1 & z = 0,09 , else y = 0 & z = 0 value12= value11+ ( value11* ( ("y") * "z") ) ) // y stands for Mining Crystal Tech 1 if exists y = 1 & z = 0,625 , else y = 0 & z = 0 value13= value12+ ( value12* ( ("y") * "z") ) ) // y stands for Mining Crystal Tech 2 if exists y = 1 & z = 0,75 , else y = 0 & z = 0
mining amount of 1 miner = value13
after this, the mining boni from orca or rorqual stacks
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Arous Drephius
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Posted - 2010.06.26 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sofalord i hope the eft guys can also put it in :)
EFT can already calculate mining yield.
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.26 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sofalord due to heavy amount of time weg solve the "problem" alone...
And where was the problem?
Quote: i hope the eft guys can also put it in :)
EFT was able to calculate mining yield for, like, last two years.
Quote: simple as it seems :
"Simple" would be
TotalYield = BaseYield * (1+0.05*Mining) * (1+0.05*Astrogeo) * (1+ModuleBonus)^ModuleAmount * (1+ShipBonus*ShipSkill) * Leadership bonuses
Not your wall of text. -- Thanks CCP for cu |
Tonnenede
Lobach Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.26 19:15:00 -
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The EFT valued do not agree because they issue "Yield per minute". In a Hulk, it would have to be named however "yield per 180 scnds". Therewith the edition of EFT does not agree therefore.
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Arous Drephius
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Posted - 2010.06.26 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tonnenede The EFT valued do not agree because they issue "Yield per minute". In a Hulk, it would have to be named however "yield per 180 scnds". Therewith the edition of EFT does not agree therefore.
Wait what? Does it matter if it's per minute or per 180?
No, that's right, it doesn't. Just because it's not shown how it is in game doesn't change the fact that the numbers are correct.
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Ambaseter Doggy
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Posted - 2010.06.26 21:06:00 -
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If it gets lets say 1200 per 3 minutes it gets 400 per minute. there fore eft is right
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VheroKai
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.26 23:18:00 -
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You guys are fantastic...
http://eve.rootdir.org/VHR/VheroKai.bio
Uploaded about the time of Bio nerf. --sig--
Originally by: Bunyip The LOLqual is a capital-sized joke
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Rough Necks
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Posted - 2010.06.27 01:35:00 -
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so as I said, simple arithmetic... --
Originally by: Zeke Mobius I swear the catholic church was faster at admitting the earth was round than CCP at fixing stuff.
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