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Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
65
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Posted - 2012.07.19 01:47:00 -
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ATM you can only attack 1 opposing militias I Hub. Not both. Please fix this CCP. |
Abannan
Moira. Villore Accords
16
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Posted - 2012.07.19 05:34:00 -
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No |
Super Chair
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
301
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Posted - 2012.07.19 07:43:00 -
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Pretty sure you should actually be a member of the militia you're fighting for. Its bad enough that you see more minmatar than gallente in the gallente-caldari FW. It's pretty immersion breaking |
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
65
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Posted - 2012.07.19 11:24:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:Pretty sure you should actually be a member of the militia you're fighting for. Its bad enough that you see more minmatar than gallente in the gallente-caldari FW. It's pretty immersion breaking
They are both an enemy non the less and it is in the lore. It is funny to me how many amarr corps switched to caldari because they refuse to still fight for amarr and that you have the nerve to say that. I realize you are scared, but yeah. |
Mike Whiite
Keystone Industrial
60
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Posted - 2012.07.19 13:17:00 -
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maybe we should remove Gallente and Anmar as a whole, then the problem is solved.
about as illumunating as OP proposal.
We have 4 races allied or not they are still different races, without thier enemies they could easly fall on eachother conserning their dogma's. |
Plyn
Hossenfeffer.
56
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:13:00 -
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Only way this would be possible is to make all FW sides at war with each other. Otherwise, as an example, what would happen if some Gallente pilots flipped an amarr system and minmatar suddenly decided they wanted the system? There is no way for minmatar to go after that system then without helping the amarr or caldari to take it first.
What'd be way more interesting is for CCP to hire some GMs specifically for the purpose of roleplaying leaders in each of the factional empires, the alliances shifting or changing based on that. Introduce pirate factions to the FW system, allowing them to work at taking each others space, or perhaps invade lowsec and try to take over space from any militia they can.
More dynamic content plz. Hossenfeffer. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
319
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Posted - 2012.07.19 14:23:00 -
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Combining two threads... maybe friendly militias could assist drones to each other to kill I-HUB. That way some of the more prominent members of the Mewmatar Militia could have the opportunity to participate in exciting bunker busting fleets.
/straightface |
eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
20
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:12:00 -
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you're not CCP, shut up
posting in other thread i don't understand or care about.
However, logic would say, that the OP has a point, The Mini are at war with the Caldari, as much as they the Amarr. This of course is the same for the Amarr and Gals.
Okay, i do undersatnd, still don't care.
p.s. can someone come and do something about Suj? that red flashy bar is driving me nuts.. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
156
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:53:00 -
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I definitely agree with the OP - both militias are at war with the militia in question, both should be able to shoot the bunker.
Having said that, as X G alluded to I LOVE not being able to shoot bunkers. It's a great way to say "sorry guys, I would LOVE to help you shoot that stationary structure really I would but CCP just won't let me sorry" :) |
Peteris G
Ophidia in herba
5
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Posted - 2012.07.19 16:02:00 -
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Have no damn idea from what militia OP is (and dont care to be honest), but that would be funny: 1) His allied militia looses all sov. 2) His militia get all sov in his front. 3) His militia goes to other front and get all systems for OP's militia. 4) ... You think now is part for proifit? FAK NO! it will be later; 5) OP gets so huge medal that it even bigger than his ego for capture of all FW systems in new eden; 6) his militia LP store gets ... mmm... 2 * 75% ... 150% discount on shop prices (that is LP shop gives You back all LP You spent plus half of LP You spent) 7) OP buys gazzilion of navy ships; 8) PROFIT! (yes now it is) 9) evenews24 writes new article about new goon exploit
eddie valvetino wrote:posting in other thread i don't understand or care about.
OP made a mistake, it should request make iHUBs attackable by anybody (and so anybody like... SnuffBox could get lowsec sov). I can bet that You started to care imeddiatlly
eddie valvetino wrote:p.s. can someone come and do something about Suj? that red flashy bar is driving me nuts..
and wadafak do You want? Turn it into green flashy bar? |
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
157
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Posted - 2012.07.19 18:43:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:Pretty sure you should actually be a member of the militia you're fighting for. Its bad enough that you see more minmatar than gallente in the gallente-caldari FW. It's pretty immersion breaking
How is it immersion breaking? Everyone shows up as orange, and the Minmatar Republic has a mutual war with the Caldari state as stated right at the top of the factional warfare screen. |
eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
20
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Posted - 2012.07.19 19:36:00 -
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Peteris G wrote:Have no damn idea from what militia OP is (and dont care to be honest), but that would be funny: 1) His allied militia looses all sov. 2) His militia get all sov in his front. 3) His militia goes to other front and get all systems for OP's militia. 4) ... You think now is part for proifit? FAK NO! it will be later; 5) OP gets so huge medal that it even bigger than his ego for capture of all FW systems in new eden; 6) his militia LP store gets ... mmm... 2 * 75% ... 150% discount on shop prices (that is LP shop gives You back all LP You spent plus half of LP You spent) 7) OP buys gazzilion of navy ships; 8) PROFIT! (yes now it is) 9) evenews24 writes new article about new goon exploit eddie valvetino wrote:posting in other thread i don't understand or care about. OP made a mistake, it should request make iHUBs attackable by anybody (and so anybody like... SnuffBox could get lowsec sov). I can bet that You started to care imeddiatlly eddie valvetino wrote:p.s. can someone come and do something about Suj? that red flashy bar is driving me nuts.. and wadafak do You want? Turn it into green flashy bar?
Pink with a pony pattern please...
lets be fair, low sov doesn't effect us, nor would there be any real benefit in it too corps like snuffbox as we don't get LP.
If we did get something from it, we would have shot it.. even if it made the I-hub post whiney "please change game mechanic" posts.
also, now it's red... can you see anyone, putting on a fleet and coming to Suj to flip the system? |
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
65
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Posted - 2012.07.19 20:10:00 -
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chatgris wrote:How is it immersion breaking? Everyone shows up as orange, and the Minmatar Republic has a mutual war with the Caldari state as stated right at the top of the factional warfare screen.
So you could have your cake and eat it too by benefitting from matar tier while pumping up gallente. What else you want, button to cause caldari npcs to shoot at caldari militia. Oh right, you already do that.
But whine harder, maybe CCP Soundwave gives you another...well, lets not get this character banned for saying uncomfortable truths.
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Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
68
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Posted - 2012.07.19 20:17:00 -
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Joanna Ramirez wrote:chatgris wrote:How is it immersion breaking? Everyone shows up as orange, and the Minmatar Republic has a mutual war with the Caldari state as stated right at the top of the factional warfare screen. So you could have your cake and eat it too by benefitting from matar tier while pumping up gallente. What else you want, button to cause caldari npcs to shoot at caldari militia. Oh right, you already do that. But whine harder, maybe CCP Soundwave gives you another...well, lets not get this character banned for saying uncomfortable truths.
Wow, it works both ways. All you need to do is contribute instead of whine. You might do better if you attacked more in space than in here. |
Ramon Sohei
URSALIS LOGISTICS GROUP Villore Accords
8
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Posted - 2012.07.19 20:21:00 -
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The way is going now we have the losing sides joining their winning ally. i.e. Gallente militia corps joining Minmatar and Amarr corps joining Caldari. If this is implemented, may as well just only have 2 sides since the loser will simply jump over to the other lowsec. Maybe having 2 sides is a good thing but these lowsec regions are not close to each other. Therefore the losing sides will end up with fewer pilots.
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Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
68
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Posted - 2012.07.19 20:27:00 -
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Ramon Sohei wrote:The way is going now we have the losing sides joining their winning ally. i.e. Gallente militia corps joining Minmatar and Amarr corps joining Caldari. If this is implemented, may as well just only have 2 sides since the loser will simply jump over to the other lowsec. Maybe having 2 sides is a good thing but these lowsec regions are not close to each other. Therefore the losing sides will end up with fewer pilots.
What I am proposing would actually let people stay in the same Militia and just assist an ally and reap the same benefits depending on where they do it. Instead of Amarr corps bailing to Caldari and Gals going to Minmatar. My apologies if I have not made that part clear. |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
263
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Posted - 2012.07.19 20:39:00 -
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chatgris wrote:I definitely agree with the OP - both militias are at war with the militia in question, both should be able to shoot the bunker.
Having said that, as X G alluded to I LOVE not being able to shoot bunkers. It's a great way to say "sorry guys, I would LOVE to help you shoot that stationary structure really I would but CCP just won't let me sorry" :)
How many Amarr bunkers have you helped capture for Minmatar Militia since your corp switched to Minmatar? You guys are only in it to leech Minmatar's LP dumps, no reason you should have any effect on Gal war zone control when you have zero effect on Minmatar war zone control. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
319
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Posted - 2012.07.19 21:28:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:How many Amarr bunkers have you helped capture for Minmatar Militia since your corp switched to Minmatar? You guys are only in it to leech Minmatar's LP dumps, no reason you should have any effect on Gal war zone control when you have zero effect on Minmatar war zone control. They are affecting Caldari Warzone control (and they are at war with the Caldari too, it says so in the FW tab). I bet if they wouldn't get any LP if the Caldari were to surrender to the Minmatar. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
35
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Posted - 2012.07.20 04:48:00 -
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Hmmmmm...........
1. Farm while screaming 'OH NOES WE DON'T WANT FACTION FARMVILLE.'
2. Create Alt.
3. Ask for Faction Farmville Deluxe GOTYE on forums with alt.
4. Respond with main toon a few times for troll value.
5. Start new thread - Repeat.
If I follow this plan - Will i be doin it rite????? Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate
79
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Posted - 2012.07.20 04:55:00 -
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There is a lot more to "warzone control" than humping buttons and busting bunkers....
Confirming we are all in FW for this fail tard sov mechanic...
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Mutnin
SQUIDS.
264
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:43:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Mutnin wrote:How many Amarr bunkers have you helped capture for Minmatar Militia since your corp switched to Minmatar? You guys are only in it to leech Minmatar's LP dumps, no reason you should have any effect on Gal war zone control when you have zero effect on Minmatar war zone control. They are affecting Caldari Warzone control (and they are at war with the Caldari too, it says so in the FW tab). I bet they wouldn't get any LP if the Caldari were to surrender to the Minmatar.
I'm glad you are confirming that the age old argument of there being only 2 Militias, I suppose this saves us from need to have another one of those topics. .. The only two Militias being of course Caldari & Minmatar. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
319
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:05:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:I'm glad you are confirming that the age old argument of there being only 2 Militias, I suppose this saves us from need to have another one of those topics. .. The only two Militias being of course Caldari & Minmatar. No, I was saying if Caldair don't want Minmatar plexers in their space, they could pull an "Italy" make a separate peace deal. Just sayin'. But I don't think Tibus Heath is up to the task, tbh.... |
Abannan
Moira. Villore Accords
17
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Posted - 2012.07.22 11:27:00 -
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No
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Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
72
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Posted - 2012.07.22 14:39:00 -
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Thank you for contributing so much to this discussion. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing
173
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Posted - 2012.07.22 14:53:00 -
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This new version of FW is requiring that you can control every militia, not only your own, so this is much interesting than before.
We have to still wait couple months to see how this **** works out.
1st step that is needed is that people stops whining in amarr side and adapts. that is already happening on some state. |
Xuixien
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
53
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Posted - 2012.07.22 17:52:00 -
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I just want Gallente militia to show up as a purple star instead of neutral, and then you have to screen threw your overview to see who's militia and who isn't.
thx. Rabble Rabble!! |
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